I'm guessing to transfer lossless audio wirelessly, the H2 chips have to stay in close and consistent range of each other. I'm probably wrong but that's my best guess
That makes the most sense to hit the bandwidth without spiking the power would need it to be extremely close. For an iPhone even in your pocket might be too far without needing higher power signals. Even with the proximity it may be that the AirPods battery life is shorter but with the 2 hours of the vision pro it’s less of an issue than with a Mac or iPhone
I think that is a correct guess. Remember, Apple would use a form of UltraWideBand, so it’s using a far higher frequency (6.24 and 8.23 GHz) than BT 2.4 GHz. Just like 2.4 vs 5 GHz WiFi: higher bandwidth = faster data transfer, but less range and a more easily obstructed signal by walls, furniture, etc. I think it would be possible to make it work with a phone that is in your pocket, but maybe not with a transmit power that is either allowable or power efficient enough. And then what about leaving your phone on the table and walking around the house? AirPods manage that connection quite well with any (Apple) device on BT. With UWB, not so much, I would guess. So now you have to market and implement a form of auto switching to lossless when your Pods are within reliable UWB range.
I don’t know if you can sign off as Apple sheep anymore Drew… You’re asking too many questions, and asking for common sense decisions! Just enjoy the prooooducts😂
My guess how it went down inside Apple: - software for lossless audio isn’t ready yet and it could happen they scrap it but they hope to have it done by the time Vision Pro drops - because they don’t want another AirPower they decided not to announce this “on stage” - then they thought it would be weird to announce them as AirPods Pro 3 in the keynote if all they’re gonna talk about is USBC
Yeah, I don’t have too much of a problem calling it 2nd gen, because I don’t think the improvements are big enough to call it a 3rd gen. Lossless audio and usb c are improvements but not enough by themselves.
@@jesselam5867 I agree, but I think they could have been called AirPods Pro 2nd Gen V2 or something to signify that they made improvements to them other than "If you get an iPhone 15 get the USB-C case, and if you stick with 14 get the lightning case but actually if you get the lightning case you're an idiot and now don't have this feature" edit: forgot end quotes
@@themadlad_That's apple though, they like simplicity they would never rename their AirPods 2.1 or Gen v2, if they decide to make changes it's always under the wraps, undisclosed. Besides, lossless audio is only supported with the vision pro which isn't even announced yet so literally no one not even people owning iPhone 15's can take advantage of lossless audio. So the only upgrade for the regular person is USB C which is as advertised. Based on their approach with these "AP2.1" I guess we can infer that lossless audio for apple is moreso a hardware thing on both ends so by the time apple makes lossless audio more mainstream with iPhones and Macs, APP3 would be out and it would be more publicly advertised.
i think there was a beta, idk 16.6 or 17 in which AirPods pro 2nd gen supported Lossless audio and then it got removed in the next beta. Apparently it was said to be a "bug"
But also, if somebody buys Vision pro and have the old 2nd Gen AirPods Pro, they won't get all the features even though they technically have the right generation of AirPods! how confusing...
I didn't watch any of your videos for more than a year, just kind of lost interest. However, in the recent couple of months I've enjoyed your videos greatly. Definetely has something to do with the funny skits and your energy is nice. Always puts me in a good mood! And you make people feel good for keeping their Apple products for longer, and personally my wallet is grateful for that :D
Hi, I work with wireless technologies. The proximity thing isnt true lol, there isn't a ton different between the distance of a VR headset with earbuds and a phone with earbuds. However, I'm betting to get lossless audio, they had to increase the wireless frequency. Why don't they just do this with the iPhone? Just like 5G, high frequency wireless signals do not like to go through walls much. I'm guessing they added lossless to the headset because there will be an assumption that the Airpods will be in the same room as the headset... something not necessarily true of the iPhone and Apples other devices.
That’s exactly what I was thinking. It’s probably possible for an iPhone with H2 to do lossless audio, and it wouldn’t be a problem with the phone in your pocket but the user experience would be be bad if you lost signal every-time you left your phone on a table and walked away or went into the next room
That is very reassuring bc i thought there was a major technological hurdle preventing this from working on iphone. But if it works when the phone is in my hand, then this is just a matter of educating the user on use cases.
tbh, i feel like it's more marketing BS from apple, since apple has their own system for lossless audio in the first place, apply have their own lossless audio filetype, which is AAC and there are varying bit rate at, so by default, almost all iphone and airpods supports lossless audio, but by default, if yo want to maximize it hardware and filetype needs to match up. im assuming iphone doesn't really support full lossless audio, since you need smtg to be inside the phone for it to work.
@@nunyabz9494 just learned something today, didn’t know apples lossless audio standard had a variable bit rate, that’s pretty awesome. But yeah, it could be 100% marketing or a little of both. Apple is now known to market a technology before actually figure out it works… like AirPower. Easily could be that same disconnect
I am working with ble and proximity matters here. So it might be you working with something that you don’t care about. Ble has max 2Mbits, it is not enough to put lossless through
I am not in the least bit surprised by this move. People tend to forget that Apple is a business and their main goal is to produce profits. These events they hold every year are not for us regular folk-it is for their shareholders. Period. Not only did Apple have the audacity to re-release the same AirPods, but they even went as far as to feature-lock them to a product that hasn’t even come to market yet! That, in itself, should tell you all you need to know about who Apple really is. Again: remember who these events are truly for. Apple knows it…and you should, too. ✊🏽
Producing profits consistently is the only way to exist in todays economy. A company that manages their money well, allows them to exist for 5 decades.
Absolutely. Hence the sole purpose for owning/operating a business. However. If your means of producing said profits involve the use of unsavoury practices, then these methods should be called to light. A la, AirPods Pro 2 w/ USB-C.
Aren’t we all living to make money? Small or large scale. What’s new about this? Nothing surprising.. we all gotta do anything to survive no matter how big or small as individual
@@romella_karmey that’s the problem. The idea of survival has become more important than actually living. The scumbag capitalists have warped us to such an extent that we don’t realize they’re ripping us off at every single step. The goal of life isn’t to accumulate wealth. The goal of life is to live. To grow. To be more than just consumers. To see ourselves as having the value beyond what we make, and what we buy. To try to get beyond getting others to buy what we think we must sell.
I am wondering if you send your AirPods in for a repair and apple just gives you new ones instead of repairing, are they going to give you the „new“ gen 2 or are they going to check wich ones you have.
You should consider making a short or a video going over the differences between the old and the new Apple USB-C cables, and what alternatives you would recommend (I believe it was you that said they changed the data-transfer speeds, but I don’t know what the old ones were)
Doesn’t last year’s AirPods Pro comes with H2 in it? And I don’t think they mean that both should have H2 for enabling lossless audio, it’s just that it should be at least H2 to handle the processing power. Since bionic processors are much stronger, do you think the lossless will trickle down to iPhone as well with Apple Music?
They got on board with usb-c yet now they are doing 20 bit lossless instead of the more common 16. So conversation of wav file format may have to occur in some scenario in the real world , meaning a new latency source.
They don’t. Don’t get me wrong, they sound great for what they are. I have a pair of AirPods Pro 2’s, but compared to my dedicated FiiO FH9 IEMs there’s no comparison, and even on those it’s very difficult to hear any differences between a lossy and lossless version of the same song.
Basically the same thing happened with the first gen air pods pro. When I believe 3rd gen air pods came out they added MagSafe to the case. They updated the first gen pro at the same time to have the updated dust and water resistance for the case as well as adding MagSafe. The updated case was only available after a certain build date and I believe the model number was different but that was the only way to know which ones you bought. The box was the same on the front and had no mention of the added MagSafe.
It's relatively straightforward. Achieving lossless audio via Bluetooth becomes challenging when the distance between the devices exceeds a few centimeters. However, when using Vision Pro and AirPods, the distance between them remains consistently within a few centimeters.
I'd get AirPods if they had low latency and lossless on the iPhone 15 Pro. Only downside with them for me would still be no low latency audio on the Switch, but lossless would be enough to make me upgrade from my Razer Crapheads 😂
honestly people making loss-less into such a crazy feature... most music not mixed or mastered for loss less in the first place. AND doubt most people could tell a difference
I mean are we shocked? I still remember when Apple said some older USB SuperDrives cannot be used by the USB-C Digital AV Multiport Adapter depending on the model number.
So I am using my first gen AirPod pros with Amazon Music and they are playing 24bit 48hz over Bluetooth. Not sure how this is possible but I have tried it both on my iPad and iPhone. If I select a lower setting it’ll also play that (ie 16bit 44hz).
This is my new favorite person on the internet now. You PERFECTLY encapsulated my frustration with the Airpods right now. Answered exactly what I wanted to find out but couldn’t find through the sea of clickbait fake news. Thank you!! I wish you one day get millions of subscribers, you deserve it dude.
If I were to buy the new case itself and replace the old case with the new case keeping the same AirPods will it still work and what difference other than the lossless wireless in the dust resistance? Do they have the ones that they were with last year?
5:12 i bought airpods today and they gave me the lightning ones. Just so i understand, the only difference is better dust resistance, usb c, and lossless with something i won’t own? If so then I will keep what i have. I don’t think these changes will matter to most consumers either. At best it’s APP 2s. But please let me know if i need to change these ASAP
All week I have been considering getting a set of APP2,s. and was just about to put my bowl of ripples down put on some pants and GO GET EM then sadness overwhelmed me and and now I wait for APP3,s again
I use my airpods pro 1st gen with my pixel fold and the comfortability of them and now usb makes the 2nd gen more appealing to me than any other set of wireless buds on the market. It may be the last apple product i have but boy are they good.
As far as I remember the AirPod pro 2s with a lightning port were advertised as capable of lossless audio… So what changed? And why is no one talking about the fact that we were lied to? They seem to be emphasizing that the ultra low latency part. I’m wondering if that has something to do with this? Were the original pair receiving lossless audio at a normal latency? Do they mean to say that the lightning port has support for lossless audio on iPhone but it won’t on vision pro and that the vision pro will only support it on the usb c pair? This is an inconsistency. Unless I jumped to an alternate universe…
Love this reaction. The dilemma I am having. Walmart has the AirPod Pro 2 lightning for 169, Amazon has the USB-C for 189. Trying to determine if $20 difference is worth getting the USB-C. Which?
