@@griffensander When on they sure are. If its off then I agree. I think a better way to phrase this is: just because something can kill you doesn't mean you should avoid it i.e. driving a car, replacing a lightbulb, going outside of your house.. you just need to know where the risks are and how to be responsible and avoid them. And always have a plan for if something goes wrong (often having other people with you)
Such beautiful video. The Apple monitor, the jazz music, the tone of your voice, the camera you filmed with, all work of art! Thanks for this wonderful experience. Wish I can get a hold on one of those monitors.
I remember in elementary school 1st / 2nd grade when my school swapped out all of their old macintosshes for those colorful imacs. In addition the library had 2 g4s with these bad boys - which besides just being really cool were the first time i had EVER seen on optical mouse that blew my mind. I was an IBM fanboy at the time and actually wrote them a letter saying to get their shit together because apple has these new mice and they are getting more popular! i was a strange kid
My junior high school computer lab had a Dual 450 PowerMac G4 with one of these displays. I think this is the only display I've ever seen where I don't care what's on the screen, I just want to turn it sideways and stare at it. The fact that it also has a very nice picture is just icing on the cake.
@@fernandochapa1433 I have not got it working yet, I suspect my power supply is not proving it enough juice. It shows up as a usb device but no picture.
I got all the parts as well. I'm struggling to understand the diagram. I got the resistors, what diode did you use? Also, are capacitors that go where it says "VGA Pwr", "USB Pwr", "ADC Pwr". Let me know. I'm about to start soldering. I also got the micro USB, but the large one seems to be a Type B USB.
Nice monitor. Personally, I would have fitted all the components, and not just arbitrarily left one off because it was hard to get. Especially as it was causing your G4 laptop to shut down. Seems risky to then plug it in to a bunch of other machines, including your main machine. Also, why not solder a female PSU connector to the board, rather than just chopping the male end off the scanner PSU and permanently soldering it?
I use translation so there may be something wrong with the text If you like, could you please tell me the site where this adapter production kit and parts are available?
You can order the circut board from here: oshpark.com/shared_projects/tUQ9np4l All of the connectors, components, and a power supply will have to be sourced separately. Info about what's needed is at: www.jasondoesitall.com/adc/
Thanks! Really helpful! I ordered the same adapter. And I have a question. Did you use not DVI but VGA port of the Jason's adapter? Do I need another DVI to VGA adapter?
If your computer has a DVI-D port and you have a DVI-D cable you can just use the DVI port on the ADC adapter because DVI-D carries a VGA signal. I just used a VGA cable and adapter because I didn't have a DVI-D cable.
@@griffensander DVI-D Does not carry a VGA signal. DVI-D standst for DVI-Digital. You can see how the connector is missing the four pins that go around the cross, and instead it just has a straight line in its place - those pins are what carry the VGA signal. You also get DVI-I (I for ntegrated) which carries both, and DVI-A (A for analog, although I've never seen one of those).
@@griffensander Hey! i'm looking into buying this very same CRT and I was thinking in the official adapter, are you sure it does not work with the CRT? have you tried it before?
@@manuperez6698 I haven't personally tried it, but I am certain it does not work. If you look at the DVI connector on Apples adapter you'll notice it's physically missing the pins that carry a VGA signal through DVI. Not only that, but people on various forums claim to have tried it and say it doesn't work.
@@griffensander Quick question here then, in the video you talk about less than 154hz (which is the max frequency it can output with old macs) this is because of the vga vs dvi?
Is it possible to do this without the board? hoking up a VGA cable, USB cable and 24v power supply directly to the adc cable? or does it need the extra capacitors and resistors?
I'm so glad you made this video! I have one of these monitors and I've been aiming to get it working with my macbook pro. Could you please shoot me the link to the pcb board that you used? Also, is that geometry adjustment software built into the G5's OS , or was it a standalone application within it?
I bought mine here: www.ebay.com/itm/Apple-DVI-to-ADC-Adapter-board-for-Cinema-Display-A1006-DIY-PCB/113788565793?hash=item1a7e53b921:g:Tq4AAOSwG59c5eu8 The adjustment software is built into Mac OS X 10.4 and 10.5 (and maybe 10.3 and 10.6, but I didn't try)
@@griffensander When constructing the adapter board, how many resistors did you end up soldering onto the board? I've nearly finished soldering my board, and I can see in your video that you soldered a blue resistor onto yours. However, when I received all my board components two resistors were included. I was wondering if the second resistor was necessary. Thanks.
Awesome monitor, been looking into moding an old crt computer monitor with a raspberry pi 4 in it for old video games. Just by chance, what game is that you're playing on the monitor? It reminds me of jet moto and wave rally.
Thank you for yet another great video. I took inspiration from you and went and bought the board and other components out of JasonDoesitAll. I still don't understand the Gerber files, or rather what other electronic components (capacitors, diodes, etc.) I need to buy. Would you mind sharing those? I bought 3 boards from OSHPark (the mininum) and enough components from Mouser to build 3 adapters. Any help you provide would be greatly appreciated. Thank you!
The diode isn't necessary, it just allows you to use the USB port's power to turn on the display I believe, but the power to do that is already supplied by the VGA and DVI ports. The capacitor you need is "at least 30V and between 10uF and 100uF" according to the guy who made it (the link to his explanation is in the description of this video). Hi! I'll buy one of your boards off you if youre in the UK! where did you get the ADC connectors to solder onto the board? I went through the route of buying an old video card with an ADC port and taking that from it.
Great video! I'm interested in picking one of these up, but worried about the VESA timing thing. Have you tried using CRU or Nvidia control panel to reach those other resolutions/refreshes on a Windows 10 PC? If so, was it successful?
I have, and while all the Apple resolutions and refresh-rates work when set manually in CRU, the only other resolutions I've been able to get working are 1280x720@64p and 1600x900@64p.
@@griffensander Thanks for the reply! So I ended up getting the monitor but had no luck with some 3rd party adapters. Is there a page with a step-by-step guide to assembling that DIY one you made in the video? I know absolutely nothing about soldering or working with electronics so I hope it won't be too difficult :0
DVI can carry either analog signals (DVI-I), digital signals (DVI-D) or both (DVI-I). As long as your DVI cable and whatever is generating the signal is generating analog signal (DVI-A or DVI-I) you'll be fine.
if there's anyone lurking down here who is looking to build jason's ADC adapter, i bought a set of 3 of the PCB boards as it was the minimum order number - id be happy to post the other two extras to anyone who doesn't also want to have to buy three of them :D
Depending on the content I use them for modern stuff too. especially 2d animation, it just looks so good on a high res CRT, looks ridiculously smooth and the colour are way less jarring than an LCD for some reason
Do you know how to connect a modern mac to a high resolution CRT monitor? All active converters I find max around 720p and I can’t connect my nvidia 980 externally anymore after Apple removed support.
Just don't. Only Macs with original DVI-I Apple Video cards are allowed to connect to CRT's. Steve Jobs will come after you if you mess with CRT's on modern macs.
@@NicheAsQuiche the know you mean the PCI card I used it ....but it was unsuccessful because I did not have the equipments to desolder the female adc from pci board .
@@paullak625 try a powerful heatgun, that way you can heat up all the pins at one. Or just destroy the board with pliers and cut it out and chip away until just the connector is left
@@griffensander Phew! What I was hoping. I've just bought a Power Mac G4 and a copy of 10.5.4 specifically for adjusting the geometry on my 21" Studio Display. However, there is very little info out there about when Apple removed support for older displays from OSX?
You'd need a Displayport to VGA adapter, then connect that to the custom adapter board (which you'll have to build). I'm actually using this exact setup to connect it to my 2013 Mac Pro.
Theres currently one on sell on offer up that I have my eye on. No idea from the seller if it works. I offered a low ball of 35 as he has it posted for 130 so let's see what happens. But I wanted to know if there are any retro gaming use case for it? Would it be possible to run an Analogue(the company) game console on this monitor?
The schematics are available online. You would have to have a batch custom-made from a service like PCBWay though. I am not aware of anyone selling premade PCBs.
@@griffensander I said this already but you can get Hdmi-DVI-I adapters. You only have to buy the Apple A1006 DVI to ADC adapter and a HDMI-DVI-I adapter.
Sure it can be used for retro gaming. It will play Prince of Persia, SimCity 2000, Marathon, Marathon Infinity and such all wonderfully. A perfect MacOS 9 gaming screen.
If a power supply does more amps it _should_ be fine, electronics should only drawn what they require, even if the power supply can technically supply more. However, poorly designed electronics may not limit their current draw, so when looking for a power supply when you're reverse engineering or hardware hacing like this its definitely a good idea to limit the power draw manually, either by selecting a poer supply with a max amps that matches what you need or having a higher amp power supply and using an amp limiting circuit
@@tanuki2k it’s actually both! according to the specs published by Apple, the official adapters are capable of outputting 90w maximum. The 23” Cinema display (LCD) draws 70w at full brightness and presumably the smaller sizes even less, leaving a safe buffer so nothing overheats in the adapter. the Studio Display CRT draws ~113w and even if the official adapters passed VGA through they wouldn’t have high enough current to power it. I’d venture a guess that the omission of VGA pins on the adapter was an intentional choice to stop someone from connecting a CRT display to it and possibly starting a fire.
Damn I gave up on being able to connect mine to anything and donated it to a local Mac shop. I did use it for a time with a compatible Mac until that machine died.
louis rossman couldnt agree more when he found a macbook that had shorted the backlight power (+50v) to the CPU cause they had pins that end up on the same cable directly adjacent to each other. EDIT: Needless to say, CPU did not survive
@@NicheAsQuiche lol, the new desktop mac now has the ethernet and power mixed together. Apple always prefers "elegance" over flexibility or functionally.