2003 IBM: "We've got a roadmap that will knock your socks off." 2005 Apple: "We don't know how to make the great products we can imagine with the PowerPC roadmap"
He was prob talkin about Desktop applications of their stuff. Though what Apple was really on about in 05 was that they couldn't get PPC chips into laptops, especially the G5. Though maybe that's not where IBM wanted to go they were prob striving for the ultimate in desktop speed without much thought to cooling and power usage which is where Apple wanted to go, they went more mobile starting in 03 remember. Yer right though I still find that hilarious everytime I watch it, shame though as I have a good few PPC macs that in the grand scheme of things aren't terribly old (well OK they're 15 years which is ancient in computing terms LOL but ye can still run updated software on the same age Windows machine if not spectacularly fast), and yet ye can't do much with em these days. Somebody else put it brilliant, if you'd just spent 5-6K on a Powermac G5 only to be told 2 months later Oh we're switching platforms, you'd prob feel abit p'ssed as I'm sure loads of people did just that, now granted they didn't discontinue support straight away but they weren't exactly gentle about it either.
@@Samspianopage While PowerPC was always terribly underpowered compared to x86 Intel, IBM was really short sighted with the G5. The Performance/power consumption ratio was absolutely horrendous. A large portion of the PowerMac G5 chassis was dedicated to cooling. Most of the G5 powered iMacs cooked themselves after a couple years. Yet even with all that power consumption the chips couldn't come close to matching Intel's performance at a FRACTION of the power consumption.
lol true so true they could make G4 laptops work and they were power hogs why couldn't they make the G5 work? it's not like Ibm was going away from power computing
@@Samspianopage well they could but........... the battery life of the laptop would have been in the shitter cause IBM couldn't make their chips energy efficient at all you see Steve talking about performance per watt and that's why intel works for them in ways that ppc couldn't and of course because intel caught up to AMD in 2005 and passed them by for performance soon after that had the put ppc against an AMD athlon 64 it would have been a slaughter for the G5 if they had tried that one why do you think they picked the Pentium4 to benchmark against they figured if AMD can beat Intel so can we and they did
oh common jobs is dead you can't expect someone else to talk like he did that's asking way way to much can you imagine someone else saying shit like this about the apples new chips nope it's no longer's the worlds fastest super computer it's just a cell phones cpu now in the systems they are making
@@Billyhime well it's true think about it when was the last time apple said there new computer is the most power super computer yeah it was when Steve Jobs was still alive🤣🤣🤣
Regardless of what I see in the comments, I absolutely loved my G5. It was awesome. My first Mac. Created so much on that machine. And before the transfer to intel, so many freeware applications were available for the system (back in Tiger/Leopard years) and they ran so well. Still have it to this day.
The speed of my G4 when I first got it was very noticeable. My G5 was fast too, but my Mac Studio M1 Max is by far the fastest computer I have ever owned. G4 = 58 million transistors M1 Max = 57 Billion transistors
Thats not a sell out, thats a company that recognizes their current hardware limitations. They saw that the G5 was hitting that glass ceiling and Intels chip's were still rising in power and getting cheaper to produce. It was a really good move and continues to be. If IBM's chips were able to compete then they wouldn't have made the move for the reasons they did, but it wasn't able to and thus we use Intel.
I would love to see them put that dual g5 against an athlon 64 of the time shame they didn't do that one instead putting it head to head with a shitty intel pentium 4 system
@@raven4k998the G5 predates the Athlon 64 by a few months (why they could get away with saying they were the first 64-bit processor), so they could either compare to the Athlon XP or the Pentium 4. I’m assuming the P4 probably had a more stark difference vs the G5 than the XP.
i am getting G5 in end-2018. Just glad that I'll have a piece of the platform that newest computers never will reach that attention to detail and quality.
yeah they never talk about their computer having kick ass words for the tech in their new chips and systems like they did with those old systems they made you want one cause they made it sound fast and powerful now apples do not make you think their new computers are that kicks ass anymore
@@junaid9957782027 I sold it about 5 years ago. It wasnt great for much other than looking pretty, sadly. No software support etc. Was a decent web browsing / word processing machine with Linux installed though.
Acme ohh! Actually I have a Mac Pro 4,1 and its a good machine even for today for normal works that’s why I asked! I think those G5 cpus are its biggest negatives.
@Kenn Honson X Judging by your videos, you look to be around 12 years old. You are lying. Also in one of your videos uploaded after your comment it shows you using Windows. Stop lying kid.
I miss those days. I still get excited when watching this classic WWDC. I really miss it. Today's WWDC doesn't seem to have passion and excitement; well at least that's how I feel but I still do love Apple. Thank you for uploading and sharing these videos.
Funny thing, I developed in 1997 under Windows NT4 for Alpha, on Alpha 21064 AXP 64 bit processor w/ Visual C++ 64 bit for Alpha, on our desktop computers: PowerPC G5 wasn't the first desktop 64 bit processor, in fact he was desktop-only at first instead being server+desktop as was DEC's Alpha CPU. And yes, the 21064 was on a class by itself compared to our brand new Pentium II running the same exact portable C code on the same payload, as we had several P2 servers and one Alpha server, all desktop computers in fact in our premise. 2X faster while clocked slower. Breakthrough! And btw we were beating our challenger for similar on-line service, they used IBM mini-computer, by a tenfold increase in performance (us in tenth of seconds for a request, them with seconds for the same request on the same Official dataset), for a tenth of the investment. This was for the French Trademarks dataset, we all received the same dataset on a CD-R and offered the same services. You have to note that IBM mini-computers are built to be failsafe, and meant to provide a lot other services in parallel, and much more complex services, but we built a resilient architecture (on non resilient microcomputers) by distributed computing instead for a simple service, that was eventually much more performant and cost effective on this specific payload and service.
@@atisbasak With 64-bit processors kernel started by default in 64-bit mode at last, in 10.6 and 10.7 kernel started in 32-bit mode even with 64-bit processors. One had to change it by hand.
They FINALLY had to admit that PowerPC was garbage compared to x86. OS optimizations can only take you so far with an inferior underlying architecture. Clock for clock a G4 was comparable to a P4, e.g. a 1.25 G4 equaled a P4 running at 1.25, and they never made them that slow. The G5 had decent performance, but MASSIVE power consumption. They moved to a Core2Duo that was nearly twice as fast at a fraction of the power consumption.
@ballachrille He's not fat... he is healthy... Steve looks like walking death nowadays. I think he needs to gain some weight. Every since he had cancer he never really recovered i guess. ;)
Steve Jobs CONTRADICTS him self from 2002 to 2005 he says Apple Think Different - the IBM POWER PC MAC G5 is the Fastest Computer in the world better than ANY INTEL XEON,Pentium PC. In late 2005 he says Apple will use INTEL only the same as PCs. Now Apple has the same Arcitecture as BILLIONS of PC's the only difference is Apple Operating system OSX and the design of the cases. The Power PC Range is ORIGINAL Apple Technology Intel Macs are basically PC's with OSX - What a sell out !
