Approach the Brass Citadel! Khorne's Fortress Explored on Lorebeards w/ Andy & Sotek 

You dropped this 👑

Gotta protect this one at all costs.

Grom is already getting the milk

@@hangebza6625from a particularly good boy

Surely the Great Horned Rat fits better in between Nurgle and Tzeentch, with the Skaven being both treacherous and plagueish ruinous.

@@Kerel94 nurgle and tzeench are on opposite ends of the star, but skaven are also violently insane which fits khorne

Charlie fits as a nasty lil Strigoi in this vampire bloodline dichotomy, but in every other instance he'd obviously be a goblin

that don't make sense i need more on that tbh why would he have ptsd from the future and not the past?, they said alot of things at the end but didn't really explain any of it? he was leashed and and escaped but also killed? idk man i think they were just throwing around ideas

@gtmafiaa The key thing to understand is that time doesn't flow linearly in the Realm of Chaos, because that is where basic rules of reality go to die. Past, present and future are meaningless terms once you leave the material plane. In the aether, it all flows together into one - Khorne is angry because he has been killed, and he will be killed because of his anger.

@@Omnicide101 that's the thing that contradicts who can kill Khrone is not a being like gods of fantasy that can be killed by nagash and others only thing that can kill khrone is peace, peace between all universes and worlds at the same time mind you, as long as theirs wars killing and the spilling of blood there's khrone like khrone is an emotion anger rage etc what can leash khrone again the only idea coming to my brain is Peace and there's no such entity i just wished they explained those points a bit more.

No lol it can't be that the chaos gods are emotions not beings they aren't entities they're a thing that just exist because war blood killing exist that's how they can be universe spanning 40k fantasy aos and where ever the old ones comes from and the many other worlds they've conquered.

If you take 40k lore into account daemons can also be born from specific events. Look up the ragged knight from Talon of Horus or Samus for examples (spoiler warning ⚠️ don't look up Samus's origin unless you want Heresy spoilers)

Plaguebearers are the only ones who were mortal I think, and only some of them.

@@PoorManatee6197 Yeah that's what makes nurgle interesting. Most gods are breaking off pieces of themselves for their daemons but nurgle can just fleece away souls and turn them into plaguebearers on a whim.

Khorne's.

The idea is that it‘s Khorne‘s skull.

Ah thank you. So a time paradox due to chaos fuckery basically.

​@@LAWhammer seem tired my lord?

Is the same in fantasy, though worship and killing in his name is better.

Fighting and killing in general feeds him massively, along with every other similar war-like god, but fighting and killing in Khorne's name feeds him directly. The former is like finding a glass of water while you've been walking in a desert for days, while the latter is like finding an entire pool full of the cleanest water imaginable.

Similarly, While he's the Blood god, we also talk about him being the general, the strategist, etc. He appears to be the god of victory, The God of the Horrors of War more aptly. I wonder if the Skull of the First is either the skull of an old one, or the skull of a great dragon ogre, which was made sacrifice for Khorne's agreement in the deal with the Chaos gods. That being said, the Idea that the Skull of the first is the skull of Khorne is interesting, Though if it's called the Skull of the First, presumably a name it attained from Khorne itself, then it would definitively place it chronologically ahead of everything else... Unless... as you stated it is the Aether, where time doesn't really matter, in which case, it could be the skull of the one who becomes Khorne. Not just that Khorne at some point in the infinity of time that he dies, but, that he wasn't always a god. You could have an even more horrific story where Khorne was a "mortal" who dies in the trauma of War and has their head put on a spike per say, and thus they become the first chaos god. They are the god lost to war, the god of unbridled rage, the fury to never lose again, to never again be the one beneath another. In that, either of my previous statements could be true, what if an old one died in the wars waged by the Lizard Men and his head was taken as a trophy, or in the many fierce wars held against the Dragons and the Dragon Ogres, perhaps an ancient Shaggoth lost it's head, Dying vengeful? who knows, that could be an excellent story, and I think it would further add to Khorne that perhaps unlike his brothers, Khorne was once mortal, which may be why he's consistently the strongest. You know, like how Sigmar is "the strongest god" because he was once mortal. Just something to think of.

Priests focusing the rage and insanity and perhaps even manifesting miracles the likes of war priests and arch lectors for sigmar - i could definitely see that being possible in lore.

Currently no, but in the future? Possibly.

In Oldhammer you had the Gods of Law, the antithesis to the chaos gods. Arianka, Zoltan and Alluminas are the most prominent ones. Zoltan is all about divine retribution against anything which disrupts order. Arianka could be said to be following laws to the letter. And Alluminas is the god of light and unchanging stasis. If they'd win nothing would ever change again, the world would be like a painting, unmoving, unchanging. But they haven't been part of WFB for a long time and are only referentially mentioned as far as I know.

​@@hangebza6625 i believe wfhrp is taking them up again for Tilea and Estalia, even adding 2 to their number. Also, to be pedantic af: solkan ;)

"put a chick in it and make her gay!!!"

It was mentioned because Arbaal exists and was/ is Khornes favorite, and they think it'd be better to show that it's not exactly a sexual thing as since Valkia is a women everyone assumes ofc it has to be (even though its probably not). The Mannfred and Vlad idea was based on them being vampires and probably being beyond the ideas of physical attraction and being so enthralled with the soul of the other because of how much Mannfred loved Vlad, according to lore. Gotrek and Felix, I have no clue. I have never heard that idea posited before, so idk the reference for why that idea was tossed, but I can't see it for those two as they are both mortals, with one of them being established as really into every attractive woman he meets. I think it just comes up a lot because its a narrative that older Warhammer lore would probably never consider for obvious reasons, and these streams are about considering Warhammer lore in ways outside the box that old school gw wouldn't have, and a gay character seems to fall under that umbrella. For the immortal characters that are barely human, if at all, sexuality seems rather unimportant but the idea of lovers is the closest thing we have to illustrate how deep a connection some characters are meant to have ( I remember reading the Revenge of the sith novelization and the author seemed to really try and convey just how close Anakin and Obiwan are and just said closer then lovers but ig no word properly exists for it in english and that type of connection is what they are trying to point out here in some cases I think). In retrospect, the last thing I said is probably the same idea for Gotrek and Felix.

I think you are hyperfocussing on a couple of specific parts in a set of tangeants. And i think you take their comment about gotrek and felix loving eachother a bit too serious, they did not mean as lovers.

@@stefvanroey8191 I am unaware of the actual comment or context like I said earlier. I assume its just the strongest way to describe how much they care for each other like I said in the edit at the bottom.