Aptera - DC Fast Charging Now Standard 

Does this mean Tesla has agreed to use their superchargers for Aptera.? All we need is version 1 supercharger at 75kw max. Tesla can limit Aptera to version 1

@Amanda de Leon I have no idea. Last I heard, Tesla is planning to open its network to everyone but has not started doing so in the US

@@amandadeleon4757 would be nice if that comes to be.

@@amandadeleon4757 Saw a video today that said Telsa will be adding CCS1 plugs to it's fast chargers. Since Telsa will most likely not change their plug to CCS1, it sounds like they will be opening it up to all.

@@amandadeleon4757 it seems to me reading between the lines that they have a signed agreement with an embargo on releasing that information to a later date.

As long as they are getting it right and on time and not rushing it.

Aptera by there own admission are $50m short of entering production, and probably more than that for doing a full 5000 car production run. So unless Elon is going to give them a $ or 2 then this car is never going to come to market. There is no news here. Only a promise that sadly is likely to never come to fruition.

@@onlineo2263 Except they still haven't submitted their government loan application. You know, the loan where the government gave Ford 5 BILLION dollars? Unless some silly shit happens, they shouldn't have a problem getting the loan.

This short comment is a huge commentary on the state of rest of the auto industry.

@@a5-30-31cts unfortunately very true

This was not a minor issue this was a major issue. Which they just recognized and corrected.

I am waiting for the 1000 mile model. Will beba long wait. I wish there was an upgrade option from 400 to 1000 so I dont have to wait. Lets hope Selenium Sulfur and Sodium Sulfur Lithium Dulfur batteries appear before then

@@jeanpaulchristian3282 I was originally getting the 600 mile model, at the time 1k was out of my budget, that changed, but I ordered the 400 when it was announced that would be produced first. I will sell my LE and get a 1k model when it becomes available. Once they hit production, demand will rise just from exposure. The fast charge was a convenience for me, not a deal breaker. The 1k road trip capability is nice, and I will pay for it, but it is a nice bonus, but not absolutely essential for me.

@@jeanpaulchristian3282 I had the 1000 mile selected ... switched to launch edition. 400 with DC charging now makes sense. Without DC charging it kind of sucked for long trips.

@@richarddib I want the 1000 model. I dream of a solar car that can unfurl body on frame instead of side door a fully butterfly raisable unitary side panel that lifts from the underbelly with the high ground clearance, the back wheel could hoist up to increase the clearance, there would be no hole in the floor due to the battery block, the skin or panels are just for some structure and aerodynamics. If the car can get 80 miles a day with 50% cheaper solar materials circa 2030's that would be astonishing... A microcar with such a design could perhaps get 40 miles with a similar set up.... The back wheel cover along with wheel pants are designed for easy removability thats suface area can have a coverable flexible plastic clip-on skin to protect from road debris damage. The back wheel panels could fan out and lift up like a solar aft wing, would require a totally new design ethos

Don't get carried away. The majority of Aptera reservation holder are not fanatical social media inhabitants. Aptera should have published how many people silently switched to the LE in the three days of their announcement and how many people cancelled. That should be a better indicator of sentiments.

I hope that is a well thought-out engineering decision and not just a public relations stunt? I am afraid it is the latter. Otherwise what changed in just barely three days? Can anybody give me an explanation?

@@adimchionyenadum2962 umm, I would have sworn seeing them show us a working prototype. I will now become a 4X investor! 😁👍🏽

well said!

yes that tells u they are with the people

@@markplott4820 To customer inputs. Tesla innovates a lot, but the don't really cater their changes to the customers the way Aptera needs to. Testa doesn't need to react to customer inputs since it's past the stage where it relies on crowdfunding.

Big concern was the retrofit would be a massive thing (ie the entire cooling system or battery). Huge win. So end of the day we have fast level 2 and dcfc. Only remaining concern is 12v or heated seats (and availability for bc). Looking forward to everyone finally getting our vehicles.

Raj - Great to see u here!

As an addition, I didn't think I would use fast charging, so I didn't care, but it bothered me how many people cared a great deal as I want Aptera to succeed. Glad they listened and course corrected.

That's the problem It may either delay production, or it may impact the vehicle in other ways I can't think of now. I am not an engineer after all so I don't know much. Just my gut feelings. I hope I am proved wrong.

@@adimchionyenadum2962 I'm in agreement but for a different reason. I've been waiting for Aptera to launch since 2008 when I first joined the original waitlist. I think it is more important to get something into the hands of the willing "Launch editions" user soon than to add more delays by adding this (or solar cells). I think this is a great "commuter" car, and have been holding out for it to appear, but worry every new feature we ask for will delay the release. I think it is better to hold back on Fast-Charging and Solar Cells and let those be in a latter addition to the Aptera after the mechanics of the car have been proven by the early adapters. Honestly, I would rather have a nice "info system", based on CarPlay than Fast Charging.

You mean 40kW (without h) power. Never say never though. Battery could be very hot or very cold or the charger just not delivering as much as wanted. Also, if it SoC is close to 0 or 100%, charging speeds need to slow down significantly to not damage the battery (this is for all NMC batteries IIRC).

Very functional and the cosmetic choices are minor. Now just wondering how long until they send them to Canada (bc - most evs per capita). International market light 😅.

With Aptera's efficiency that's still 100 miles in the first 10 minutes, so its pretty much the same charging rate as a Tesla Model 3 on a 150kW SuperCharger.

I thought about that 1:1 drive:charge time, too. It just didn't seem viable for over-range per day roadtrips. So glad I can put that worry to rest!

I can't see how a startup that hasn't even produced a product can be taking major engineering decisions based on popular opinion. That is scary. I wish them well. None of the other established companies are doing that. Elon Musk who was an outsider when he started made it because he was a whimsical loner and did his own thing. I thought Aptera had their core personality locked in this time. Apparently not. Sad!

If they get it wrong because of a rushed and poorly designed product, these same people you enumerated here will crucify them without mercy. I am not excited.

@@adimchionyenadum2962 This is not new technology, and DCFC will be expected in ANY new EV. Aptera had already done the groundwork, and recently they partnered with Lectron, which is one of the largest EVSE manufacturers, so they will have the NACS plug and supporting hardware. And they only need to integrate with Tesla's Supercharger software to make this feature complete (which will benefit Tesla as well). I am fine if it steps back to slower charging on occasion, as most other EVs have that same throttle back charging capability.

@@deanmcmanis9398 Then why did they rule it out in the LE. Why did they need a catholic outcry to retract? What changed in just three days that they didn't have before announcing the LE?

@@adimchionyenadum2962 There have been many necessary changes made to the Aptera. And there were many hard decisions concerning which planned items/features that would need to be postponed initially, to get the Aptera into production quickly. The whole idea of a fixed, no-option, configuration EV like the Launch Edition model will always upset some people, but Aptera clearly didn't realize the effect of omitting DC fast charging, and how it would negatively impact supporters, reservation holders and investors alike. I'm just glad that they listened, and corrected the problem within just a couple days.

@@deanmcmanis9398 As long as they can deliver it on time without any problems with it and/or after deliveries. Can you vouch for that?