The AR Tier List 

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Chewing gum on the mic is asshole tier for sure

Smacking that gum right in that mic lol.

Are you kidding me with the gum!!

Lol, i like how bear creek gets its own tier

BCM is my benchmark. It’s right where $, quality and performance all fall into line. For each $1 spent above the price of a BCM you might get $0.25 increase in quality and/or performance. IMHO

Bushmaster’s roll mark being so cool puts it in B tier.

Aero went down right before covid and never resurfaced unfortunately

"They are sending me a JAKL" Moments captured right before tragedy.

BRO!! THE GD CHEWING GUM!

geissele and larue above LMT, Noveske, LWRC and HK is insane🤣

I bought an Aero upper and had buyers remorse when I received it due to the barrel not having a drilled gas port (bolt-action). They did fix it, and now I enjoy it quite a bit, but you shouldn't receive a barrel with no gas port. Thankfully I knew about their BCG issues so I had a Microbest at the ready.

I had issues with an Aero upper. I contacted customer service, sent videos of the issue and.... they ghosted me. But according to the comments section, it was a me problem obviously ;)

Mil-spec triggers in a $2000 rifle immediately drags it down a tier. *Cough* *Cough* FN, DD, *cough* *cough*.

anybody paying $2k for a 5.5" 5.56 deserves to part with their money

I’ve had a bit too much to drink and man that guy’s comment about the free BCM BCG has me DYING LMFAO I can’t wait to see the rest of this

Fairly often what you’ll see with people trying to “save money by building themselves” is that, with all the extra money people spend on upgrading their mid tier rifles, they could have just saved that money up, gotten something significantly better straight from the factory, and have a lil money left over

The last post John Noveske made was about how every mass shooter has been on some form of prescription antidepressant. Noveske quality used to be damn near S+ and after he passed it has seemed to slip down pretty hard. The infidel was the first 13.7 rifle I saw over a decade ago, before every other company went there. I wouldn’t pay $400 plus ever again since Johns passing. My geissele’s and bcm rifles are still my favorites. I’ve had every worth while brand on this list minus the lower end ones and KAC. First was old school bushmaster over 20 years ago but back then it was pretty much just colt and bushy. I’ve never experienced the DI LWRC but there IC SPR in 14.7”. That’s was when LWRC went after Sig lol. Funny to see how much has changed in this market

All that matters is the Mass Effect references.

Sorry I missed the live stream. No apologies necessary for lil dude bro. He was fine. Parenting is a privilege.

Larue was S tier before Mark got butthurt by everyone shitting on the c note and doubled his prices. Now it’s A

Value absolutely should be part of these kinds of conversation because it's something that kept coming up - for example, you were saying about DD vs BCM where DD is slightly better than BCM but also costs 50% more, which almost certainly pushes BCM above DD.

I’m running out of places to hide ARs in the house. Wife thinks I have only 5. Owe how wrong she is. lol.

I got a psa upper during covid and have about a thousand rounds through it over the past 4 years with no issues. I would gladly buy another upper from them again, and if I have to give it a look over I’ll chalk it up to a learning experience. I like to tinker. I have heard the horror stories of their qc though, so I like to think I’m not walking into it blind. That said, I also wouldn’t mind getting an upper from BCM or focus.

Bear creek " Trash Can " 😂

Gotta slot JP in. Remember they don't just make gamer rifles. They are responsible for some of the highest end/most accurate large frame ARs, made waves in the SASS program with the RSASS (remington submitted their rifle)/ They have super high quality barrels, thermofit barrel extensions, great triggers, the list goes on. Easy A+

Your thumb nail almost had me about to loose my shit over LWRC..LOL..also I'd rather have over gas then a rifle that cant shoot through tough elements. But that's me

I was under the impression the bad QC was a few years ago. Now the QC is back

I took my PSA to the range and shot the same targets as a guy that had a Knights and I was surprised to see that they both did the same thing

Describing the fact that you've shot a lot of customers DD rifles as "HAD TO" shoot it...rofl

Im in SC. Psa or any ffl out of state can't sell to you but if it's legal in your state they can ship it to your ffl in your state.

I def agree with the Geissele placement. They are nice. And getting their triggers and reliability enhanced BCGs is huge value added. Most of us put them in our rifles that we buy from anyone else lol. I’d bet 80% of the guys posting here have Geissele triggers in their guns..or wish they did.🤓

The guy who said Aero is *above* S&W is out of his mind.

I thought the 416 and variants have a firing pin block due to ensuring it passes all drop tests and I think theres a law in Germany that requires some form of firing pin retainer for newly manufactured firearms. Every one of their firearms has something along those lines if not a blatant block it's a retainer of sorts. Maybe theyre just stuck in their ways idk, but IMO I don't think the block is a bad idea, it's kind of nice to know for sure your firearm can't fire if dropped when hot and even Sig must have accepted that view because the MCX has their own firing pin block/retainer.

POF is S tier the 416 is best ever rifle and I got a revolution for 1499 its amazing

I’ve looked into the Zion-15 and see it as a really good entry AR, has everything you want nothing you don’t, but is probably $100 more than it should be, the quality of all the parts is legit when you dig into it

Great vid my fellow German brethren . I own a BCM, Daniel Defense, FN, LWRC and PWS. Def A-tier value!

The IWI Zion definitely pushes IWI into low B tier.

Where is PWS & Sionics?

Primary Arms still ships whatever you need to Washington State. You must affirm a disclaimer before they ship, but they will ship what you need. Just know your State and Local laws and regulations.

The LWRC DI is the most slept on rifle on the market. Their BCG's are probably the best.

DANIEL DEFENSE B TIER WAAAAAT HATING THE RIS II WAAAT THE FOOK ITS PERFECT

It would be funny if they made a AK tier list because most of the companies would fall in the no CQ tier.

Windham is slept on because they are pretty small and build extreamly basic rifles. But they build them extreamly well, with each part inspected and assembled by people who are highly skilled and not over worked. They trade flash for function, quality, and proper specs.

I don't even think you can realistically put hk on for the 416/417 you'd have to look at the mr556 since that's all that's offered to the civilian market lol

I'm currently purchasing my 2nd CMMG, you guy's glossed over it pretty quick. I'm getting the Bass Pro version for 700, seems like a deal. I probably would have looked at Geissele seriously if I had seen this first.

The price of the new Aero Alpha Pro rifles blew my mind. $1900? They might be great but for the other established reliable stuff out there, the price is insane. The handguards LOOK sick tho.

Geissele isnt $1600 regular price. More like $2200 regular price and like $1300 on sale on black friday

POF , PSA-Sabre , BCM , IWI

Hopefully you get a Type-A and Blackout Defense on the channel in addition to Noveske and Radian. Noveske and Radian are definitely A+ tier. PWS and VSeven definitely need to be on your next list.

Geissele is S tier. Show me two broken REBCGs. Just show me two. Anyone? They've been around for 5 years.

No way in hell would I rate S&W and CMMG ARs as B tier! Maybe C tier, but I’ve experienced and seen QC issues with both. Unless someone has had extensive experience with ALL these brands, it’s not fair to honestly categorize all of them while being unbiased.

Spikes Tactical has a phenomenal customer service. One of their customer service reps, Katherine assisted me with a special order, a custom complete upper build. We corresponded for about two months. I also shot my ST at the range with my buddies who has PSA and other no name brands, and there was a notable difference with shooting my rifle compared to the others. ST is at least a Sold B.

BA barrels are A but everything else is low B also no qc.

If you haven’t tried blackout then you need to get on that. Probably the best innovations in the AR rifle in the last two decades

Aero is C, but they’ve probably sold more civilian rifles than everyone else put together by now…I’d love to see a total lowers sold comparison.

My favorite AR15 company is Sionics. The only thing they make is their barrels. Very accurate barrels. I have 5 samples that are all MOA or better with good match ammo. Both chrome and QPQ. They source their uppers and lowers from Mega/Zev. Like others do. Their BCG's are NP3 coated. And they are completley vetted. A ton of departments use them as patrol rifles.

*Lucas Botkin spins around taking off sunglasses "Black RAIN you say?"

I generally like Aero’s receivers and rail systems, but their barrels and BCGs have been really suspect post-Covid. BCM is my gold-standard for value and milspec essentials. Faxon is considered “budget” but their products have NEVER done me wrong.

Geissele ARs are easily S tier their rifles are amazing.

Bro is like the freaking ice truck killer with the damn cough drops

Never baught a complete rifle from a single manufacturer. Always source upper lower handguard from Aero, bcg and barrel from others, Magpul furniture, gas block else where too. You can build a great rifle with a pinned adjustable gas block and a great barrel for $1000-1500

We need a video about why you don’t like Type A.

This stream is way funnier after the Jakl (jokel) fiasco.

LWRC in my biased opinion makes the most insanely reliable rifles on the planet, and that over gassed system contributes to that dependability:

Missed Munitionworks

Please get your hands on unbranded AR ... they also have an carbon(polymer) lower

Looking at the amount of Aero issues I doubt it is even C tier, no QC for me

Where in the world did you find a Geissele for $1,200???

There's a good dozen brands, maybe take a few that I would consider. Just so I don't get paralasys by analysis.

IraqiVeteran8888 and his friend make rifles now. Forgot the name, but wonder what they're like.

Im not understanding your explanation on the LWRC, you said Geissele is S tier and LWRC is not, but Geissele rifles are over-gassed more then the LWRC. I own both, once my super duty barrel gets hot that group opens up, My LWRC gets hot the group stays alot tighter, and the reason being is the heavy barrel. If a smaller contour barrel gets hot, the group opens up, if a heavy barrel gets hot thats built of quality, the heavy barrel hold groups better. Does my Geissele run like a well oiled machine absolutely, but i hold a 3oc pattern with my LWRC with zero malfunctions, my super duty is 2oc with 3 or 4 stoppages, PMC runs fine in my LWRC, run it through my Super Duty and every now and then she gets a bit unhappy with the PMC. I guess its pretty much preference. Good vid.

I get it the money is a factor. I personally onwed DDs and BCM and all my DD boringly accurate and reliable and although a bit over gassed, the ejection pattern with all of them have been very consistent. In the other hand. BCM have not been as accurate, gassed all over the place and the some of the muzzle breaks spitted fire like a dragon. I. Conclusion yes DD is more expensive and it is boring, but it simple works and you know what you get. BCM after you order the upper and fire it you either has to send it back or sell it down the line and buy something else which you end up paying more than if you had bought DD in the first place. Also, we are not using the same criteria to judge this categories, cuz you all say colt sort parts from different companies, so does BCM.

I love Geissele and the REBCG is fantastic. I had one in a custom 13.9 that blew up due to an over pressured round from PMC and not only did Geissele send me a brand new REBCG free of charge despite it not being their fault but also were very responsive and sent me a bunch of swag.

its funny when you put Knights Arnament and Larue as the best rifle systems on the market when both of those companies make their products at prices nobody can afford. So I'll just take my DD instead. Lmao

"Not a fan of Aero's hand guard" well that's the thing that I like most about them LOL, now I feel inadequate.

On the Geissele front, they had a blem sale on the 4th of July after this stream. I got a super duty stripped 14.5" upper (No charging handle, BCG, or muzzle device) for $485. Definitely S tier.

B Kings Firearms out of Lima Ohio. These guys manufacture and have great prices!

Don't forget about the Geissele trigger pocket! All you need is a drill bit.

CMMG uses 4140 barrels immediate meme tier.

from how bad my banshee has been reliability wise. c or d.

Regarding whether "value" should be included, I think it obviously is important, "quantity has a quality all its own", but value is not a performance metric for most people. For the military, it sort of is a performance metric in that it affects logistics performance and the amount of time and money and delays that go into determining our current fighting capacity, but for most average people, it's not quite as much about their ability to maintain that capacity because most people don't shoot enough for that to make a huge difference anyway. While it is definitely relevant to the conversation, because having two barrels that can give you a total of 30,000 rounds is definitely better than one barrel that can only get you 20,000, but value should be a secondary factor when it comes to putting tier lists like these together. Having two inaccurate rifles is not better than one accurate rifle (unless you have a buddy who is also gonna be helping you mag dump at a target 700yds away and pray that you hit them lol), but at the individual level, performance is what we should be evaluating first, while informing people of price, so they can determine on their own if a certain level of quality is even worth buying. People will know if something is worth it to them financially or not. People will be able to decide if they want to spend the extra money to get something better. But what people have a hard time figuring out, because the info on AR makers is mostly just hearsay and people simping for something they know nothing about because they want to feel good about themselves for having an opinion even when they know nothing about the actual state of the market or the manufacturers in general

For anyone curious about Centurion Arms, the guy takes FN barrels and improves upon them, making them more modern. The uppers are damn good, and they’d be solidly in A tier.

(Look at edit at bottom) No POF-USA??? You got Ruger who just literally copied one of their designs, also YOU talked about PWS yet Pws Copied their anti-tilt buffer tube design from POF-USA as well. You have large well known companies using their designs and parts in their own rifles yet you left them off the list? POF-USA makes one of the Best most robust Piston Ar15s on the market in the P415 Edge and Also one of the Most upgraded D.I. rifles for the money right out of the box with the Renegade Plus. They are AMAZING RIFLES. They have won countless awards. EDIT: Nevermind I see you guys put them in at the end, my apologies. Ok but they are Definitely "S" tier not "A"

Battle Arms Development and Mega Arms used to make really good receivers for the price, don't know if that is still the case today. Those were always my go to for stripped lowers.

Not sure an AR tier list video should be a 2 hour live stream. More like a

if Knights is S tier, LMT has to be S tier. They work with each other exclusively.

Is this tier list also semi accurate for AR-10 rifles? (For the companies that make them)

Nothing in here on POF, or did I miss it? POF makes some amazing guns

Lol the thumbnail got me. I clicked on this video prepared for war in the comments 😂

Everyone sleeps on Centurion. I have built a V7 with Centurion barrel, Zev with Criterion Core barrel, BCM with BCM barrel and Geissele with BCM barrel, and I laugh at my Geissele. I'm glad I built in on Black Friday sale. Geissele is good for triggers, but V7 and Centurion are head and shoulders above in fit and finish, but more importantly where it counts. Barrels and BCGs. Hell, I even prefer the Centurion AST over the SSAE trigger, especially for the money. WTS OD Green Geissele w/ 10.5" Super Modular Rail, SSAE trigger, and 11.5" BCM CHF barrel to finance a Centurion 11.5" Midweight CM4.

Ballistic and Aero make great parts for a home build.

I have DDs and BCMs, IWI Zions and Tavors, and more…it’s a Colt 6920 by my bed. The rest are in the safe. My 6920 has been beat on and just keeps kicking.

I think Geissele gets so much hate because of bill’s weirdness, and how pricy the ssa is. I think Geissele was well placed. On a side note how often do you see full rifles from companies like KAC, LWRC, Larue, or Radian? I hear about them a lot online but I don’t think I’ve seen a single one in person. I’m slightly convinced that they only exist online for people to argue about on ig.

A lot of these companies don’t manufacture anything lol, they just buy from an oem and slap a label on it. Some will do in house QC, or pay for a high level of QC from the oem though.

I have purchased many PSA and non-PSA products from PSA and have only had outstanding customer service. My PSA AR15 and Gen3 AR10 have had no quality issues, no reliability issues, shoot great and are very accurate. I guess from your rating very poor PSA rating, I have been very lucky.

Dude was so salty on the Geissele part, lol.

Would love to see you do a review of an Adams arms piston upper

What about DiamondBack? Just asking for a friend, thanks… 😅

Didn’t see BG defense/type A