Arabization to Turkification |history negationism to identity crisis ft Salman Rashid 125 TG Podcast 

"I do not have any unanswered questions" As per Hindu philosophy Salman sir has achieved MOKSHA in life . Great ,very few reached there

I still remember Manto laughing at Punjabi Muslims in Lahore trying to speak Urdu.

The primary root cause of identity crises in Pakistan is based on one main historical reason. The majority of Pakistanis are Punjabis and Sindhis. There has never been any powerful historical figure, either Sindhi Muslim or Punjabi Muslim. No empire was founded by any Sindhi or Punjabi Muslim. The present Pakistani Punjab region was ruled over centuries by Afghans, Turks, Mughals, Sikhs, and British. As a matter of fact, it was only after 1947 that Punjabi Muslims became masters of that region. It is funny to observe that even today, the two main leaders are either a Pathan (Imran Khan ) or a Kashmiri ( Sharif family). The fact that they don't have native heroes means they are always looking for heroes from foreign Islamic empires. Just look at the list of people who are celebrated by Pakistanis. Muhammed Bin Kasim, Mahmud Ghaznavi, Muhammed Ghori, Timur, Babur, Aurungzeb, Ahmed Shah Abdali etc. None of these are native Sindhi or Punjabi Muslims. Even though Punjabi Muslims consider themselves to be a martial race, this is not backed up by history. They were never able to resist foreign invaders and were ruled by a small minority of Sikhs. Furthermore, they never fought against the British except for Rai Ahmed Khan Kharal, who played a minor role in resistance against the British. By the way, their latest invented hero is a fictional character from Turkey called Ertugrul.

He is the Arun Shourie of Pakistan… scholar

Loving it ... Lots of his facts are wrong. He studied history of Punjab more from angle of Muslims and Islam and not based on geography of that area. Chandragupta Maurya was a follower of Vedic religion. Before the influence of Abrahamic religions India had very fluid inter religion changes among people. It was merely a way of thinking and practicing how to conduct your life. Though cast wise categorization was present which was also fluid that time. Different scientific studies are done on caste stratification(i.e. Intermixing of caste stopped), it was found that somewhere around 600 AD caste intermixing stopped. Chandragupta Maurya was made King by Chanakya (writer of Arthshastra) . Chanakya was Brahmin or let's say Pandit in todays terms. Chanakya was the Teacher of Chandragupta Maurya and he was greatly respected. Taxila had one of the oldest universities of the world. The destruction of the university occurred during the invasion and conquest of the region by various forces, notably the Huns and the Persian King, Shapur II.

Friends across the border - I accidentally dropped into the program and I was blown away by the high quality content. Full marks to the interviewer 🎉 My deepest respect to Mr. Salman - for his reading, travel, and most importantly the level of self-introspective enlightenment he has reached. ❤ I look forward to seeing programs on both the You Tube platforms from India

Pakistan should have adopted arabic language instead of urdu to completely dissociate with India. Urdu is basically a language with hindi grammar and persian, arabic, turkish words. There are many words which are sanskrit or sanskrit derived words. You may hate sanskrit, but can't stop uttering sanskrit. Ham(I, we) is a hindi word derived from sanskrit Aham. Tum ( you) is derived from sanskrit twom.

History may written by the victors, but facts don't care about feelings.

CHANDRAGUPTA MIGRATED TO SOUTH INDIA AND DIED AT SRAVANBELGOLA AS A JAINA.

Yes. muslims in India can still use persian names from pre islamic persia, like Rustom, Sohrab, Jamshed, Khusrau, and so on, but they are forbidden by muslim society to even mention the choice of hindu names. Now the trend may be Arabic names, but the fact is, as the late Tarek Fatih acknowledges, the roots of the pakistani Society are Hindu, not persian or arabic. the sooner they acknowledge that, the better off they will be.

I feel you are speaking my mind. It’s not just about religion, we are people of the land and culture. Thank you sir 🙏🙏

Salman speaks from the heart and experience.

Most Muslims and Hindus of Punjab have abandoned Punjabi, language of their forefathers , giving way to the language of Delhi and Uttar Pradesh( land of Ganga and Yamuna) in the heartland of Punjab( land of five rivers). Post Independence in one of the census Punjabi Hindus united to mention their language as Hindi, betraying language they spoke in their shops, homes and business places. Now Urdu has become language of Muslims, Hindi language of Hindus and Sikhs are probably the last heritage keepers of Punjabi left

Pakistani u tubers marking money from india,although salman sir respected one (in india)

بہت اچھی باتیں شکریہ

Chandragupta Maurya converted to Jainism

Chandragupta Maurya was not Buddhist but a follower of Jainism.

Faisal bhai, If you want to connect with the land, your land, don't jump over from IVC to Turkish invasions. There is atleast a 2,500 year gap you can not ignore, smack in the heart of Punjab. Also, if IVC had any Vedic connection, we may need to put you in a padded room! If IVC declined around 1900 BCE, RigVeda captures the continuity of "the land", "your land." Read about RigVeda. It will tell you who you are. Then jump to Mahavakyas, just a ten minute tutorial on who you really are. Then you will realize the devastation that began with Ghouri and Ghazni.

The fact is that we have distorted both the concept and the image of nationhood, state, culture, language, region, and religion. It was an elite-based movement for separation and was hammered in our minds from the top. Mullah who was brought in at a later stage was just a pan in the hands of the mighty. He was divisive, mean, and vicious. His knowledge and understanding of the modern state was rudimentary and far from reality. The worst part is that he could never understand the concept of the modern state and always identified himself with the larger ummah by claiming and professing that he was Muslim first and then Pakistani. That crosscut of identities further complicated the process. We try to connect everything either with the Arab world or with Afghans and celebrate the vagabonds as heroes. The facts are otherwise, we see no commonalities with these groups of people. Both came from outside for loot and plunder be it the Arabs or the plunderers from northwest. Ghaznavi was a murderer, a rapist, and a thief as were others coming from the northwest before or after him. The Arabs invaded Sindh during the Umayyad period who were nothing but land-grabbers, and the war lordship was a norm for them.

Muslim Rajputs are of two types: Dr. Asrar Ahmed type Rajput who declared that in Gawza a Hind, Hindu women would be distributed among Muslim as Loondis and jizzah would be imposed upon them ; Arif Muhammad Khan type Muslim who trace their origin to Lord Rama and resigned when Rajiv Gandhi turned aside the supreme court verdict

Caste is a British word. Hindu word is varna, professions. Not as rigid as the British theory made it to be.

urdu sirf 400 saal purani language hai jabki punjabi 1600 saal purani language hai aur urdu ko mughal sultanat k Kehne pe nizamuddin ne kuran Islam ko samjhne k liye banaya tha basically urdu is religious language please google it bro isliye Pakistan me sabse pehle urdu language को punjabi sindhi pastoon Kashmiri musalmano pe thopa gaya taki unka original language culture chodke urdu ko pure koum pe oppose kiya jisse pure pakistan koum ko zehniyat k taur pe identity crisis ho giya isliye ye khud ko arbi turki farsi samajhne vali zehniyat pai jati hai kyoki urdu language arbi turki aur farsi ethnicity ko superior batata hai isliye pakistanio me ye identity crisis hai lekin ye identity crisis Afghani aur bangladeshi muslmanan me nahi paya jata kyoki unhone urdu ko discard dismantle kar diya tha ye sirf pakistanio ki zehniyat me dikhegi 😅

Thank you Sir

Chandragupta was not Jain or Buddhist.But in the end of his life he relinquished his throne and became Jain shraman and went to forest (vanprasth ashram ) as the other kings used to do at that time

A muslim, and that too Pakistani, accepting the truth. OMG am I dreaming.

A pleasure to listen to Salman.

He would stand with Sikhs against Afghans in the Sikh Afghan war.

Times glo sir I appreciate your unbiased thoughts and your Punjabi language love from u.s.a.

Wish more Pakistanis thought like this gentleman!

Uncle only if you knew meaning of Pakistan P=Punjab A=Afghania/KPK K=Kashmir S=Sindh TAN= balchisTAN Pakistani are neither Arab nor Beharis

As per all the literature related to Mahabharat there is plenty of it in India in Sanskrit and now in other languages also Punjab region was the main region full of Aryans and in fact famous dharmyodh of Mahabharata was fought in Punjab region. So had a very rich history and culture which unfortunately you are not reading and identifying yourself with. In fact you are taught to hate your culture and history as if your history/ culture started only in 1947 or may be 300-400 years back only in 16th or 17th century. You need to realise that your culture is Indian and Is not Arab or Turk ( with no offence to those great cultures and civilizations just as we have our civilization) . Both Turks and Arabs also know the fact that you are not from their culture bhale hi aap unke jaise naam rakh le , pahnawa kar le.

He is genuine!

❤❤❤❤ love u sir

Always refreshes the mind....... 👍.......like number 290.

I am from a place that is known as jain Kashi...we have Bahubali statue monolithic granite statue of around 900 years back. In my childhood I have had friends and it was considered as a Jasti not dharma ..and there are families that share surname and family ties but half is Hindu caste and other professes Jainism. Once minority reservation came into practice, things started to change .name of my place is Karkala in Udupi district.. Google and find out.

Britisher engineered divisive that culminated into bbloodshed because of power vacuum

For me, he is Saint.

I am an ambedkarite atheist. Do not believe in religions. However all debates about identity, ancestry etc harmful for humanity. We should seek truth . Ancestry related talks nothing else but pure racism

پنجابی زبان پنجاب دی شان اور شناخت ہَے پنجابی امیر ترین زبان ہَے پنجابیو مذھب توں اُپر اُٹھ کے اَپنی تہذیب اور مادری زبان نوں بچاؤ

Pakistan ke Punjabion aur Sindion dono ke Saath Barra dhakkaa Hua. Urdu toh unko jubaan hi nahi thi.

کچھ ان پڑھ ھونے کی وجہ سے بہک جاتے ھیں۔ اور کچھ زیادہ پڑھ لکھ کر بہک جاتے ھیں۔ اس کے ساتھ بھی یہی ھوا ھے۔

So proud to be Punjabi ❤️

Sir..I.. respect u..I.. love..u...

You are right 😂mr🎉 salman, he is realistic, àppreciate his true thinking 👍😍

Chandragupt Maurya was not Buddhist, he was Hindu. It was Ashoka who became Buddhist from Hindu.

بہت کام کی باتی‍ں... اس پنجاب کو ایسے دانشور ہوش دلا سکتے ہیں.... جس کا گئس پیٹرول کوئلہ ہر بار سندھ سے نکلتا ہے... پنجاب نے اپنی بندر گاہیں بھی سندھ میں بنا لی ہیں...

Our brothers Muslim and Hindu abanded Panjabi language and Panjab. Now Sikh only fighting for it. But Sikh are very less in numbers But why our brother abandoned this land and Language

It is unimaginable to me how it is to bury the mother tongue and culture. Why would anyone do that to themselves?

Why they understand after leaving army😂😂😂

Urdu is 99.99% Hindi with few Arabic words.

There is some evidence that Urdu originated in Punjab, which has also produced some of the greatest Urdu poets and writers. So, Urdu is not alien to Punjab. He is making it sound as if there was some conspiracy and the British and Urdu-speaking elite were imposing Urdu on Punjabis. What's the evidence? The fact is that Urdu succeeded primarily because it was closer to Arabic and Farsi and could convey Islamic principles and thought. Punjabi simply didn't have that vocabulary or alphabet. Even now, many Punjabis cannot pronounce AYN, GHAYN, QAAF, HAA correctly. Hindi had the some issue because it too didn't have these characters along with ZA. Urdu is brilliant in the sense that its Urdu alphabet covers all sounds.

Indians as a whole promote content to uplift the morale of their people, we on the other hand create content totally irrelevant to the current situation of our country, and that too ridiculing our society and our people. Salman sb needs to let go this habit of correcting society and history.

Is it true that mostly low caste hindu converted into Islam to avoid caste system.?

اردو زباپ پنجابی زبان نوں ختم کردی جا رہی ہَے

He is really genius .

ایڈی پنجابی پنجابی کر رئے او تے انٹرویو وی پنجابی اچ ای کر لیندے

اے انٹرویو پنجابی وچ نئ ہونا چاہیدا سی؟

No arbi call them self QURESH only THOK ALA musalman called themselves.

Salman bhai asal her chez ko bechne ke liye mazhab se jodia jata hai

interviewer should have done more homework

I like this guy Salman. Great story teller.

Don't just think too much , it was simply a British idea to destroy the subcontinent, just like they divided the middle East , Africa, Soviet union , koreas , vietnam etc etc etc !

Basically Arabs treatment of Sindhis was better than what Hindu king and caste system was doing. Mind you most of people were Buddhist while Attacks of Arabs and people converted as soon as they were treated as equals. Hindus still are converting due to same caste system.

میں یہ دیکھ رہا ہوں کہ دونوں پنجاب ایک ہو رہے ہیں اور لوگ انگریزی اور پھر اردو سے بیزار ہو رہے ہیں اور بلھے شاہ ، وارث شاہ ، شاہ حسین اور بابا نانک کو پڑھ رہے ہیں۔

please do some research before interview. Jo swal pochne chahye thy salman sb se wo poche ni..no offense!

Banda sadda aa.rashida

انسان کو اس بھائی صاحب کی طرح متعصب نہیں ہونا چاہیے۔ فارسی عربی میں سمجھاتا ہوں ہمارے کلچر میں کیا ہے۔ چندرگپت کون تھا اس بحث میں پڑے بغیر یہ یونانی و دیگر حوالوں سے واضح ہے کہ سکندر دارا فیملی کی ہی ریاست کے حصے پنجاب میں داخل ہوا تھا۔ رائج زبانیں تھیں ارامیک اور فارسی کم از کم ڈھائی سو سال سے۔ اشوکا کے ایڈکٹس اس علاقے میں ارامیک یا ارامیک خط کی گندھاری میں پائے گئے۔ اس کے بعد کوئی چار سو سال یہاں یونانی رائج رہی۔ سکندر کے بعد بھول جاتے ہیں کہ یہاں خصوصاََ پنجاب میں صدیوں کا یونانی راج رہا ہے۔ پھر پارتھین اور ساکا راج ہیں زبانیں یونانی اور ایرانی تہذیب کی ساکا زبان۔ یاد رہے یہ لوگ کوئی خاندان نہیں ہوتے تھے جو آ کے راج کر جاتے تھے۔ یہ قبائل کے قبائل اور قبائلی الائنس ہوتے تھے۔ پھر ساکاؤں ہی میں سے مانے جانیوالے کشان جن کی ریسنٹ دریافت تختیاں واضح کرتی ہیں کہ یہ لوگ نویں صدی میں بھی عرب امارت کے نیچے کئی علاقوں میں مقامی حکمران تھے۔ کشانوں کے کانشکا اعظم نے تیسری صدی میں رائج یونانی کی جگہ بلخی کہی جانیوالی زبان کو یونانی خط میں رائج کیا جو نویں صدی کی دریافت تختیوں میں بھی موجود ہے۔ کانشکا نے اس زبان کو "آریو" مطلب آریان کہا ایسے ہی جیسے دارا نے اپنی فارسی کو آریان کہا تھا۔کشانوں کے ساتھ ساتھ یہاں ہنز الائنس کے ابادلو نزاک اور مشہور تورمان اور مہرگل کے الخانو گزرے۔ ان کی ریاستی زبانیں بھی آریو فارسی رہیں۔ پھر ساسانیوں کیا یہاں طویل اثر بلکل عیاں ہے۔ یہ سب لوگ سوائے ہونانی النسلوں کے "ایرانی تہذیب" کے کہلائے جاتے ہیں۔ کوئی "برہمن تہذیب" سے نہیں۔ ان سب کی کرنسیاں بتاتی ہیں کہ یہ سب ایرانی تہذیب کے مذاہب کو ہی فوقیت دیتے تھے۔ یہ لوگ عموماً پنجاب و پاکستان کے شہروں کو صدر مقام بنائے راج کرتے رہے ہیں۔ بدھ مذہب بھی ان کے ہاں موجود تھا اور شاید اسی تناظر میں۔ اس موضوع پر اچھی خاصی تحریریں موجود ہیں۔ سنسسکرت بھی بدھ ازم کی بدولت یہاں رہی۔ سنسکرت سے شاید زیادہ ارامیک سکرپٹ میں جاری رہی گندھاری میں بدھ ازم کا زیادہ مواد موجود ہو گا۔ تورمان اور مہرگل وہ ہُن راجے تھے جنہوں نے انڈین گپتا ایمپائر پر چڑھائی کے دوران اپنے ایرانی oesho کلث کو شیوا ازم میں بدلا۔ برہمن تاریخ میں یہ سب یونانی کشان فارسی پارتھی ساکا ہنز ملیچھا لکھے گئے۔ شیوا ازم کا روپ دھارا تو شودر کہلائے۔ یہاں تک کے کشانوں کے جو راجا کہیں بدھ ازم کے پیروکار تھے تو بدھ تاریخ میں بھی انہیں شودر کہا گیا کیونکہ یہ لوگ برہمنی تہذیب کے باہر کے لوگ تھے۔ بدھ ازم میں اس آفاقی کاسٹ تفریق کا کوئی زیادہ معاشرتی اثر تو نہیں لیکن وہ یہ تفریق کرتے ضرور ہوتے تھے۔ یہ تو تھی قبل از اسلام۔ بعد از اسلام تو فارسی ہزار سال تک کی تاریخ رکھتی ہے۔ عربی نے سرکار فارسی اور ایرانی زبانوں کو نیا روپ دیا اور پھر پنجاب میں تو براہ راست عرب اثر یہاں کے کلچر اور زبان پہ ہے۔ آپ صرف یہ دیکھ لیجیے کہ بابا جی کو عرب اثر پر وٹ تو بہت ہے لیکن پنجابی شاعری و ادب کے حوالے سے جو پنجاب کی شناخت نام منہ پہ آئے وہ عرب نژادوں کے ہی آئے ایک کو چھوڑ کر۔ بلہے شاہ سلطان باہو بابا فرید وغیرہ۔ یہ سب ایرانی زمینوں سے ہوتے پنجاب ہوئے لوگوں میں سے ہیں۔ بلکہ بابا فرید کو تو ہماری آپ کی پنجابی کا پہلا شاعر کہا جاتا ہے، بابا جی کا فارسی کلچرڈ ہوا خاندان کسی زمانے کا کابل کا حکمران رہا ہے۔ ۔ لاہور داتا کی نگری ہے اور "داتا" غزنی بورن عرب نژاد ہے۔ یہ لوگ پنجاب اور پنجابی کی پہچان ہیں۔ اپنے ذہنوں کو وسعت دیں اور اپنی تاریخ کو درست انداز میں دیکھا کریں۔ اس میں بہت رچنیس ہے۔ ہماری تاریخ اس ترویج کے علاوہ بیان ہوئی عین غلط ہی ہو گی۔

It is not an identity crises. Pakistan was conceived as a new nation, a melting pot for Muslims of the Subcontinent. It necessitated that Punjabis, Sindhis, Pashtuns, Baloch, and various groups from what is now India ( they didn't all speak Urdu) would over time give up their old identity to embrace a Pakistani identity. Islam and Urdu are the two glues that hold Pakistan together. Without one of the two, Pakistan wouldn't exist for long.

Bulley tu nachawe ......naal to nachana painda hai😊😂😅😮😢🎉😂🎉🎉🎉

Till we don't learn , why and how this strip called Pakistan was created We will remain lost Jinnah Poonja Chap, whom the unwashed call Quaid e Azam, was a Hindu from village Panali in Gujrat His house is can be seen on Google His grandfather was Premji Lal, father. Poonja Lal Poonja was a very clever chap, initially English tried to pass him as Ismaili Muslim and said he was born in Wazir Mansion near Ismaili Jamat Khana in Kharadar But Ismaili Imam, refused to give a fake certificate that he was Ismaili So in, 1900 it was decided to call him a Sunni Muslim and name was changed to Mohammad Ali Rest history we know how with help of English and Hindus who were also in game, Poonja created two nation theory He got 1.5 million Muslims Slaughtered Handed India to Hindus Hindus, never had any say in ruling India Till 1947, Muslims ruled over most of India. Whole of Punjab, Bengal, Assam, Kashmir, 35 Muslim States, in Central India, Hyderabad with half India wealth, Bijapur etc, were all under Muslim rule Muslim culture centres like, Delhi, Lucknow, Agra, Kanpur, Hyderabad etc Were also handed to Hindus, Muslims were confined to a small strip they call Pakistan This strip was to be a buffer, between Russia and India, Unwashed mob called Pakistanis will not comprehend till they read history of Great Game, which started in 1840s

پنجابیو اَپنی ھستی اور وجود نوں بچاؤ

ajwa is fruit of heaven . he should respect it

Salman sahib,you are an educated man.But you should read a little more about Sir Syed Ahmad Khan.He was not a man into whose psyche anything could be "stuffed " ('thosi gayee 2 nation theory').He was for an independent India.But he visited various work places where,out of a 100 workers,only one was a muslim.He couldn't prevent schools,under municipalities, from dropping urdu from their syllabi.He saw the direction in which things were moving.For him,it dawned as a bitter truth,that the Hindus considered muslims as destroyers of their culture.And as foreign usurpers.They were not too far wrong.But for those reasons they carried great resentment against muslims.And that was a ground reality.It was not religious discrimination. The Arabs carried a similar resentment against the Turks who ruled them for 400 years.Even the Quaid did not want a divided India,initially.He moved towards separation much later. I would like to know what language Mr Rashid speaks at home with his kids.Does he speak Punjabi? Punjabi is safe.It is widely spoken.No worries.

Bhulay Shah himself was not Punjabi, and his grandfather was Farsi/Arabic speaker. That's actually how Urdu began. Farsi speaking teachers from Afghanistan and Central Asia had no choice but to use Farsi/Arabic words to teach illiterate masses. Guru Garanth Sahib also had to be written in many languages because Punjabi was just inadequate. Even now, Punjabi has to borrow thousands of words from Urdu, Farsi and Arabic.

Half of Pakistan is Persian in origins.

Pakistan don’t have any identity crisis. It is propogreted by Atheist or secularist. Islam doesn’t means the Arab culture or Arabization of people. Islam means that God given norms,social law,prayer etc. Pakistani people are ethically Panjabi, sindhi,patan,kashmiri, baloch but Their culture organised based on the religion of Islam. Not only for Islam but also for other religion, religion is one of the Source of culture. For example according to atheist or secular, India is country of many ethnic groups and ethnic culture so does it means that Indian has identity crisis. People identity can be defined by geographically or raceily.Such As America is a multi ethnic and multi cultural country but they following Modern American culture does it is mean that American have identity crisis? Stop this propaganda. India paid puppet are behind these propaganda.

Can anybody share Salman sahib 's contact number, please?

While talking about Chandragupta you suddenly flinched on topic of Brahmins advising Chandragupta and you told he was a Buddhist , shows you still hate hindu and Brahmins , this is deep ingrained in our mind whatever reformist you be, still difficult to come out. However the teacher of Chandragupta was a Brahmin , Chandragupta become Chandragupta because of this Brahmin .

I feel you are speaking my mind. It’s not just about religion, we are people of the land and culture. Thank you sir 🙏🙏