Arcelin Mousqueton: An 1850s Breechloader with a Ludicrous Bayonet

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The Arcelin system was a capping breechloader provisionally adopted by the French military in 1854. It was a bolt action system with a folding bolt handle, firing a paper cartridge. It impressed Emperor Louis Napoleon III in initial trials, and he directed it be used to arms his elite Cent Gardes bodyguard. More extensive testing showed that it suffered from insufficient obturation, and would would with extended use, eventually becoming so difficult to close that bolt handles would break. Its adoption was rescinded, and it was replaced by the Treuille de Beaulieu 9mm pinfire carbine in Cent Garden use within just a few years.
The most distinctive element of the Arcelin in use was its bayonet - a true full-length sword complete with brass handguard that could be clipped to the muzzle. This was chosen for its impressive length, although it would have been cumbersome if used beyond ceremonial guard duties.
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@glennotropolis 4 года назад

“Thiz is ze bayonet” “Thats not a bayonet, mounsier, THIS is a bayonet”

@TheInflicted 4 года назад

Ce n'est pas une baïonnette.

@charleslindberg829 4 года назад

Nice comment. Here's a thumbs up 👍

@Siddingsby 4 года назад

You call that a bayonet? THIS IS A BAYONET

@MrDirigible 4 года назад

Japan: but do you put them on anything besides that musketoon?

@michelguevara151 4 года назад

> * [the last one's with a heavy southwestern accent] *I think they issued them to cook brochettes with*

@Masada1911 4 года назад

“Ludicrous bayonet” that is a funny way to spell “magnificent bayonet “ Ian.

@jerryjantola 4 года назад

I love sabres. I love muskets. Now I can officially confirm that combining those 2 things only makes them better.

@tenofprime 4 года назад

now I want to see a sawback version of it just to make it that much more over the top.

@robosoldier11 4 года назад

"Sir I do believe the Japanese have taken the field! Who else would use such long bayonets?" "Dear god Watson it isn't the Japanese! Its the French!"

@Furzkampfbomber 4 года назад

Have you seen Ians video about that british smg that had _two_ bayonets? I think this gun here could need a magnifinecent second saber as well. One simply can not have enough dakka... and sabers.

@Masada1911 4 года назад

RocketSurgeon That is an explanation I can buy

@dutchplanderlinde4845 4 года назад

“That’s 65% more bayonet per bayonet.”

@Anthrolithos 4 года назад

Thank you, Cave Johnson. "Do you know who I am!? I'm the guy that's going to burn your house down!! WITH THE BAYONETS."

@a4channoob 4 года назад

"Affix swords" "You mean bayonets?" "You heard me"

@lieutenantkettch 4 года назад

"Fix swords" is actually the command to fix bayonets in British Rifle Regiments, dating back to the time they used the Baker Rifle and its sword bayonet.

@just4laughs76 2 года назад

@@lieutenantkettch High port, Check sword

@brainfat1 2 года назад

For this combination the next command should be "Form pike squares!"

@kleinjahr 2 года назад

@@brainfat1 No, they're cavalry, so, Couch lances and charge!

@dsedh23 4 года назад

This gun is for when you are hired to be a musketeer and also a pikeman at the same time.

@axelpatrickb.pingol3228 4 года назад

Isn't that why the bayonet first existed for?

@hendrikvanleeuwen9110 4 года назад

*lancer. It's a cavalry carbine.

@Korppis 4 года назад

theehee polearm with xtreme poking range :-D

@bl4cksp1d3r 4 года назад

@@hendrikvanleeuwen9110 it was used for the Palast guard. Pikeman*

@QuantumMechanic_88 4 года назад

@Alf - Excellent comment .

@RavingRaptor 4 года назад

So at what point does a rifle becomes an attachment to the bayonet and not vice versa?

@jamiec5565 4 года назад

This pair plus one inch to the bayonet looking at the relitive sizes

@calvingreene90 4 года назад

When you mount that bayonet on a M-4.

@lunkystraydog6572 4 года назад

This is my long swords rifle attachment.

@HugoEckener127 4 года назад

They should put markings along the length of the bayonet so you know how many feet of bullet drop you'll have to account for by the time the round gets that far down the blade

@MrYfrank14 4 года назад

bayonet with a carbine backup.

@undo9981 4 года назад

French guardsman: "I want a spear that I can shoot with."

@undo9981 4 года назад

Boomstick? neeh that's a boompole

@Trashcansam123 4 года назад

I mean thats effectively what muskets were for a long time.

@NemoNiake 4 года назад

Adeptus Custodes :)

@themeanestkitten 4 года назад

@@NemoNiake i was thinking the same thing 😄

@TN-ci4ox 3 года назад

@@NemoNiake a man of culture

@whatisbestinlife8112 4 года назад

"Ceased using them because they were poking holes in the ceilings." Trolls are not an internet phenomenon. They've always been with us.

@planescaped 4 года назад

Many kids know what is like to ask their dad a question and get a preposterous answer because he didn't want to say "I don't know" Little does dad know that now every kid on the playground thinks the groove in a sword is for gathering the blood... Then you get misinformed adults who swear that's the truth because they have believed it their whole life, though the ease of looking things up on the internet has led to a decline in those types, but not as much as you'd think.

@SimuLord 4 года назад

Calvin's great-great grandfather?

@lapinmalin8626 3 года назад

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-DA3VsMteAxk.html :)

@30cal23 3 года назад

@@lapinmalin8626 EXTERMINATUS

@nomms 3 года назад

There was shit posting in ancient rome.

@J3TF1RE 4 года назад

Ian looks so ridiculously comfortable holding a sword.

@Kickthelighter 4 года назад

Its the 3 musketeer facial hair. Lol

@thegunfoogle2864 4 года назад

Ian is the kind of person to pop out around the corner with an epee and say 'scaramouche douche' when somebody tries to mug you close to a museum.

@udednow 4 года назад

He looks V E R Y french, I'm sure he's to handling long sticks Don't be mad y'all, I'm a descendant of Napoleons sister Fun fact: France developed the 'modern" ambulatory system

@BleedingUranium 4 года назад

I'd love to see a "Forgotten Swords" spin-off series hahaha

@johnsmithwesson9996 3 года назад

@@udednow Well he looks like a stereotypical French person. But he honestly looks way more American than French

@Dja05 4 года назад

For when you want to stab some dude, but there's another two dudes in front of him.

@iuploadherebecauseimnotbuy7236 4 года назад

Omg dude I nearly died from laughing, epic.

@MiniPainterGamerDadD20 4 года назад

And there's a pesky field separating you.

@ispacedesign 4 года назад

Me? I know who I am. I'm a dude, stabbin' a dude, behind anotha dude.

@ZOGLaboratories 4 года назад

When you are out of ammunition and yet wish to perforate the gentlemen in the next village over

@PROkiller16 4 года назад

As stupid as it looks, this does solve the issue of how would a dismounted cavalryman would be able to defend himself without also giving them a bayonet to attach to their firearm.

@dejjal8683 4 года назад

could also be used as a lance

@mr.numbers5968 4 года назад

I doubt it. If you stuck the bayonet in someone while at high speeds on a horse, it might break, bend, or just pull the gun out of your hand.

@ProjectThunderclaw 4 года назад

@@mr.numbers5968 that's an inherent risk with any lance, although your master of arms will probably be more cross with you for wrecking a whole rifle than a sharp stick. But it's not worth it anyway, because the way you have to couch a heavy lance (tucked into your armpit, arm bent) means you wouldn't gain much reach over just holding the sword with your arm fully extended

@johnkelinske1449 4 года назад

@@mr.numbers5968 Probably not, more likely it would knock the rider off the horse.

@johnkelinske1449 4 года назад

@@ProjectThunderclaw Remember what happened to Capt. Walker in Mexico? "Boys, forward and don't flinch a foot, I know I'm dying but don't give way."

@lieutenantkettch 4 года назад

“So you've signed up for the cavalry. Do you wanna be a dragoon or a lancer?” “YES.”

@sigma_frenchie4075 2 года назад

can even be a hussard with it lmao

@loganb7059 4 года назад

Somebody took the term “sword bayonet” a little too seriously.

@MadNumForce 4 года назад

Technically, it's a "sabre-lance".

@blackdeath4eternity 4 года назад

@@MadNumForce no, sabers are curved.

@simpsondr12 4 года назад

@@blackdeath4eternity Are we really arguing with 19th century Frenchmen?

@blackdeath4eternity 4 года назад

@@simpsondr12 to argue we need to have a back & forth & i think if they are 19th century hes prob dead. :P

@AndrewAMartin 4 года назад

@@blackdeath4eternity I believe that sword would properly be called a rapier, but I could be mistaken.

@-----Alcatraz------ 4 года назад

Meanwhile the Japanese are looking at their katanas going "hmm... what if"

@hemidas 4 года назад

Didn't they make a Nambu/katana combo in WW2?

@UXB1000 4 года назад

@@hemidas They did, but just one example - a Type 14 with a katana blade - although the gun was non-functional. I think it was an Imperial Japanese Army officer's personal weapon.

@jrb8955 4 года назад

I don't think japanese people will mess with their katana because of their much respect to weapon

@jazzmaster909 4 года назад

French: makes long Bayonet Japanese: puts Bayonet on everything Match made in heaven if you ask me

@hailexiao2770 4 года назад

@@jrb8955 Not a real katana of course, just a generic shin-gunto

@SlideRulePirate 4 года назад

It was always gonna happen but at 8:30, after having had the requisite facial hair for years, he finally goes 'Three Musketeers' on us.

@iododendron3416 4 года назад

You mean the three musquetons?

@SlideRulePirate 4 года назад

@@iododendron3416 Yeah OK we can let him skip a couple of centuries.

@loicbazin1053 4 года назад

It would be fun to see him dressed as a king's musketeers with modern weapons at a competition. Or see him do a mach with a machlock

@bruensal7182 4 года назад

This is the false title. Real title: *Ludicrous bayonet: An 1850s bayonet with an arqueton musqueton breechloader*

@Pcm979 4 года назад

It must've been nice to get a complimentary rifle with your fancy sabre.

@stefanmolnapor910 4 года назад

Right! Can't even get damn Irons on a rifle these day! Lmao

@eduardocharlier7560 4 года назад

Ian should do a crossover episode where Matt Easton and him discuss bayonets

@abdalabinladen 4 года назад

That would sure be awesome! Please make this happen.

@kleinjahr 4 года назад

In the proper context, of course.

@WolfKenneth 4 года назад

OMG please do! Ian! Matt @scholagladiatoria !

@iain3713 4 года назад

Eduardo Charlier hell yeah

@Alpostpone 4 года назад

Episode will be composed of Matt taking ten minutes to say that bayonets were used on battlefield.

@ducomaritiem7160 4 года назад

I reloaded a muzzleloading pistol once, on horseback. During a reenactment battle in Coudekerque, Belgium, I got the most relaxed horse ever from Filmhorses. So, during a charge from us, the Cuirassiers, I shot into the Redcoats ranks, galloped back, reloading the pistol during gallop, went back in a charge, firering again. The horse knew what was going on, because every time I cocked the pistol, he layed his ears flat! So, reloading on horseback is possible, but mostly impossible.

@ScottKenny1978 4 года назад

I bet that a good military horse of the time would be used to gunfire and would lay his ears down. I understand that most of the guided-hunt horses in the US are also used to hearing gunfire.

@Nerdnumberone 4 года назад

Still, reloading a muzzle-loading pistol is a bit different than reloading a muzzle-loading longarm, even a carbine.

@micahreid5553 4 года назад

@@Nerdnumberone Most cavalry units would have a carbine and a brace or two of pistols, or a brace of revolvers later, so they would have access to as many danger beans as possible before having to go hide somewhere and reload. So it would be possible to use your carbine first, toss it in the scabbard and then go to using and reloading your pistols

@itsapittie 4 года назад

@@ScottKenny1978 I've dabbled a bit in cavalry reenactment and cowboy mounted shooting and I can confirm that most horses do pretty quickly learn to associate the cocking sound with the soon-to-follow gunshot. The good ones lay their ears down, the unsuitable ones flinch. With a little exposure most horses can learn to stay on the job but a few just aren't ever going to be suitable for the purpose.

@itsapittie 4 года назад

@@GerardMenvussa some reenactors and mounted shooters put tampons in their horses' ears so they don't hear the shot as loudly. Most shooters and horses don't use hearing protection but the blanks used for mounted shooting have much less "concussive" effect than an actual cartridge. The effect is much more like fireworks than gunfire.

@henrya3530 4 года назад

Something you forgot to mention... The space between the plug on the end of the bolt that pushes home the cartridge and the interior of the breech is a deliberate design feature. Normally, in black powder firearms having an air gap (particularly between powder and ball) at the breech is a very bad thing. It creates an area of higher than normal pressure which can distort or even burst the barrel. However, in this weapon the area of higher pressure is created *behind* the charge thus blowing any unburnt remnants of the paper cartridge down the barrel which makes reloading easier. A similar feature is seen on the Dreyse needle gun. Unlike the Dreyse, once fouling makes operating the bolt mechanism difficult there is Plan B - you can still use this gun as a muzzle loader :-)

@TheCouchCommando 4 года назад

Silly Ian, that's no bayonet, that's just mechanical AN/PEQ analogue, shows how France were concerned with target designation even 170 years back

@lexmen1089 4 года назад

Funny how you said that while your pfp is an cadian lmao

@thumba-umba2699 4 года назад

"DRIVE ME CLOSER! I WANT TO HACK THEM WITH MY SWORD!!!" (c) Unnamed Imperial Comissar, 382.M39.

@Alpostpone 4 года назад

With this, you don't need to drive any closer.

@captainscarlett1 3 года назад

As a student of classical Japanese martial arts, I say this is an awesome weapon. A big pointy blade on a solid hefty stick. You couldn't ask for more. Not goofy at all. Tiny little sticker on an M16....now that's goofy.

@PatrickNiese-sn6fs 8 месяцев назад

Kinda reminds me of a nagimaki.

@JPR3D 4 года назад

You know, as funny as it looks with a modern perspective it actually make perfect sense to have a Saber that you can fit like a bayonet in order to get enough length from a carbine sized rifle to be effective against a man up on a horse. For the time that's a rather simple and logical solution.

@trblemayker5157 4 года назад

9:23 That bayonet would be right at home in Warhammer Fantasy.

@TheGreegles 4 года назад

FOR SIGMAR

@samsowden 4 года назад

frankly it wouldn't be out of place in 40k either xD

@trblemayker5157 4 года назад

@@samsowden Is that a Death Korps reference?

@bobc1911 4 года назад

"That's not a bayonet .... this is a bayonet!" Sorry, just had to.

@taiko729 4 года назад

"Mick, give him your sabretache" "What for?" "He's got a bayonet"

@ehsnils 4 года назад

@@taiko729 Have a Donk instead.

@lunkystraydog6572 4 года назад

Lol

@John-doe955 3 года назад

You’re lovely

@llamallama1509 4 года назад

For when you want to melee the enemy outside of their effective musket shot range.

@kaasmeester5903 2 года назад

Manager: "I want you to design a cutting edge weapon" Designer: *presents firearm with 4 feet of cutting edge attached* Manager: "THAT'S NOT WHAT I M... oh screw it"

@danieldeak9141 4 года назад

Gunsmith: Do you want a gun, or a lance? Some guy: YES!

@jabloko992 4 года назад

ugyanitt bojler eladó

@dylankornberg4892 4 года назад

That’s the most ludicrous bayonet I’ve ever seen. I’ll take your entire stock.

@pandabuluk 4 года назад

Louis Napoleon III: "That no bayonet. THIS is bayonet"

@tomdixon7264 4 года назад

'This is what I've been telling you guys '- Phillip of Macedon

@SimuLord 4 года назад

Macedonian pikes next to traditional Greek phalanx spears were a living example of "you vs. the guy she tells you not to worry about."

@Riflelock 4 года назад

My guess would be stabbing the ceiling of the guard room or guards shack.

@mytiliss682 4 года назад

Imagine going through low doors with this. You have lean gun forward or backwards, first looks dangerous, second is uncomfortable.

@Riflelock 4 года назад

@@mytiliss682 Not pleasant I am sure. I would be courious when they would fix bayonets.

@Mixu. 4 года назад

I thought this would be a sword with a gun inside haha

@mistakenotou7681 4 года назад

It actually exists ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-WMG9_VS2hNw.html

@alexmaurice4274 4 года назад

@@mistakenotou7681 woahh

@JamesThomas-gg6il 4 года назад

Kinda like the Pritchard bayonet for the webley, except the other way around. Hit a switch and the muskatoon flips out

@gworfish 4 года назад

It sort of is....

@krayne-ddg-pmc 4 года назад

For when you're such a gentleman even you're gun carries a sword

@immikeurnot 4 года назад

Most bayonets: "Turn your rifle into a spear!" This bayonet: "Turn your rifle into a naginata!"

@penttikoivuniemi2146 4 года назад

More like a nagamaki.

@junichiroyamashita 4 года назад

You know,in my youth i had a" bayonet craze", loading everything in front on a gun to make a bayonet,a knuckleduster,a trench knife,a kukri, and,a saber. I remember those ideas as ludicrous in real life,but it seems i was proven wrong.

@Casshio 4 года назад

A knuckleduster? I mean how does that even work?

@Tunkkis 4 года назад

@@Casshio Like a mace, I suppose.

@nolanolivier6791 4 года назад

Ehehehe... some of those ideas are still ludicrous.

@junichiroyamashita 4 года назад

@@nolanolivier6791 well there was also the tanto bayonet,the axe bayonet ,the spear bayonet,the circular saw bayonet, the halberd head bayonet.. and so on.

@johan.ohgren 4 года назад

@@junichiroyamashita wow, you're parents must've been so terrified..😂

@alexguymon7117 4 года назад

Would you be able to cover the Tabatière rifle series? They aren't as well known or available in the United States as say the Snider Enfield or Trapdoor Springfield and I'm curious to see how it exactly functions. It also apparently has a fairly unique cartridge.

@offdeadeye88 4 года назад

I have one thats been converted to 12g black powder

@Gabcocacola 3 года назад

When you wanna stick a bayonet on someone but you also apply social distancing.

@HellJustFroze 4 года назад

_"So, are you a musketeer or a pikeman?"_ *"Yes."*

@spot1401 4 года назад

....and now mount the whole thing onto another rifle as a bayonet...!

@aloadofbollocks988 4 года назад

Under-barrel backup breech loading rifle.

@mistakenotou7681 4 года назад

@@aloadofbollocks988 better than under barrel zip22

@mikeoxlong1395 4 года назад

No, silly, you mount this rifle, bayosabre and all, onto a cannon and you ram it into the enemy.

@Red_Beard2798 4 года назад

When you have to defeat terrorists at 3 but have a Civil War Reenactment at 4

@super5oldier139 4 года назад

On the end of a full length mosin

@ordinosaurs 4 года назад

To be fair, considering French politics of the days, I suspect at the back of Arcelin's mind the unusual length of the bayonet was more for crowd control of civilian protesters than to be used in actual warfare against cavalry.

@davidlacoste 4 года назад

That's more the 3rd Republic than the 2nd Empire.

@wraithwyvern528 4 года назад

That's French politics since they've stopped calling themselves the Franks

@ordinosaurs 4 года назад

@@davidlacoste considering it was created barely 6 years after the 3rd revolution in half a century and 3 years after a coup to restore the Empire, I stand to my guns, so to speak.

@MirejeLenoir4670 3 года назад

@@davidlacoste The empire was just more efficient thant the republic at repressing social unrest. The third republic was known for allowing more freedom of press and freedom while the second empire was stronger on propaganda. The republic just couldn't get away with repressing social movements as easily than Napoleon III could.

@BRBMrSoul 2 года назад

@@justforever96 ya, and it was for cavalrymen, maybe was idea but think they know horse alone is often enough for crowd control ;) Ain’t no person winning that fight.

@gillesdupouy8357 4 года назад

"What is important to make a good army guys ?" Germany : "the highest technology available" Russia : "the best logistics and mass production" France "FANCINESS"

@DaveTex2375 4 года назад

Ian: Ludicrous Bayonet Me: Ok... *sees bayonet* Me: You do not disappoint!

@DualDesertEagle 4 года назад

Now this legit dropped my jaw and I went like "UH!" Holy crap, I did expect a LOT from the title, but definitely not THAT!

@MadNumForce 4 года назад

The original Arcelin sabre-lance had a blade called "à la Préval", that is a very hollow triangular cross-section. This kind of blade had been designed during the reign of Napoléon by the general Préval, who had commanded various cavalry units and ended up in the artillery, and considered the line cavalry sabers of the time were too heavy and not stiff enough, so he designed this blade and tried to get in adopted for decades. Several times it almost happened, but another design always got the preference. The sabre-lance Arcelin is the only official weapon in French service, or the only hollow triangular blade saber ever officially adopted as regulation, even though it was for the tiniest prestige unit that wasn't meant to ever see combat.

@MrPanos2000 4 года назад

Indeed! Preval blades were very popular with colonial French officers, who were known to purchase non regulation custom swords

@Riceball01 4 года назад

The blade design likely came about because Preval wanted a blade more optimized for thrusting. From what I understand, during the Napoleonic wars, the French favored the thrust over the cut. So in order to maximize your swords thrusting ability you'd want to make your blade as stiff as possible aNd a triangular shaped blade does this much better than traditional flat cut and thrust blade.

@davidcolter 4 года назад

Forgotten Weapons: "here is a silly sword on the end of a gun" Scholagladiatoria: "but in context...."

@fast_richard 4 года назад

This would have been a great subject for a joint episode with Scholagladiatoria. Scholagladiatoria is a sword expert who also knows something about guns. Ian is a gun expert who knows something about bayonets.

@Vespuchian 4 года назад

Getting Matt's opinion on this sort of thing would be an interesting follow-up video. I wonder if he follows this channel.

@donjones4719 4 года назад

@@fast_richard Thinking the same thing. Oh, I'd love to see his opinion of this thing - it doesn't look good for use as a sword. And he also knows how to fight with a pike, spear, etc.

@F1ghteR41 4 года назад

@@Vespuchian Matt said he's a subscriber of this channel on stream a while ago, as I recall. Then again, as far as I remeber he've mentioned this sword-bayonet in one of his videos already.

@JamesThomas-gg6il 4 года назад

Only Ian would find a totally obscure muskatoon that hardly anyone knows about and go on to show that they have the wrong ridiculously long bayonet for it. I love the details

@ukaszgrzesik7231 4 года назад

I see oportunity for another epic crossover here, with Matt Easton of Schola Gladiatoria

@apokos8871 4 года назад

Scholagladiatoria-Forgotten Weapons video when? this combo of musketoon and saber is just the perfect thing to discuss

@svenblubber5448 4 года назад

*sword Sabres have curved blades!

@Col_Mustard 4 года назад

@@svenblubber5448 nope. Sabre. Sabres can be straight, although that's less common. They're defined by their single edge, while a sword has two. At least that's the french definition, maybe the Perfide Albion has another one.

@svenblubber5448 4 года назад

@@Col_Mustard Nope! Straight edged swords with one edge are called backswords! The only straight edged sword called "Sabre" is the "Patton Saber", and that's only called that because all it's predecessors were curved, so when the army ordered a new sabre to be designed they expected something curved. When the new design was straight they just didn't bother changing the name, but out of context, no sword expert would call it a sabre, and it remains an oddity and exeption. As a rule the general definition of a sabre is considered a curved sword!

@ray6442 4 года назад

It's amazing how you still find guns to make videos on. Love getting home to see a new forgotten weapons video, you're awesome Ian!

@jamesparsons5212 4 года назад

That is actually a really cool piece of firearm history. Thank you Ian. Always a cool and informative video. Keep the great videos coming. Much respect from Jacksonville, Florida.

@Taistelukalkkuna 4 года назад

*Sound of Japanese scrambling to see the bayonet, followed by mass swooning*

@mistakenotou7681 4 года назад

What's the deal with Japan and bayonets?

@donecoin33 4 года назад

mistakenot ou suicide charges

@Rabhadh 4 года назад

@@donecoin33 were they suicide charges when they worked?

@lairdcummings9092 4 года назад

@@Rabhadh since those charges generally *didn't* succeed, yeah, they were. It was a very similar mindset to that of the French in the first months of WWI, where it was thought that elan, and a bayonet charge, was enough to carry the day. Machine guns were very, very rude to that outlook.

@kurumachikuroe442 4 года назад

Rabh No, then it is glorious melee combat

@stephengalindo6340 4 года назад

I'm waiting for Ian to design the perfect rifle. After looking at so many weapons I can only imagine what he would come up with

@DevinMoorhead 4 года назад

WWSD2020

@DaveTex2375 4 года назад

Presenting the AR-FAL-47 with grenade launching bayonet.

@polygondwanaland8390 4 года назад

@@DevinMoorhead WWSD, but with this bayonet

@DevinMoorhead 4 года назад

@@polygondwanaland8390 exellent

@dclark1980 4 года назад

@Devin Moorhead I find it fascinating that Ian and Karl went with a 16” barrel for the WWSD2020. I can’t remember the reasoning behind it.

@rautavaara9194 4 года назад

"Thanks for tuning in to another video on Forgotten Polearms."

@TheAtomicCross 2 года назад

Together, they make a ridiculous combo. Separately, that is a handy little carbine, apart from the fouling issue, and a beautiful blade on that sword.

@jackmcslay 4 года назад

We need to get skallagrim to create an analog to this musket with the bayonet and test it's effectiveness

@iain3713 4 года назад

No Matt easton

@JanoTuotanto 4 года назад

Unscrew the pommel...

@killerkraut9179 4 года назад

i think isnt that bad

@dragomirschippenbeil7168 4 года назад

I love how Ian is dwarved even by just the bayosaber alone

@ChuckNorrisIsNothing 3 года назад

Now there is a weapon class i would want to specialize in...

@pierrekvt5786 4 года назад

Hi, sorry for my approximate English, i am French, and passionate by the second French empire. And I fall in love of the "cent garde" batallion. This bataillon was created in 1854, the same year of the "treuil de Beaulieu" creation, this weapon was only use by cent garde. So I have a doupt on the link between the arcelin and this batallion. The arcelin was more use as a prototype for cavalry (dragon). But already, thanks for making video on crazy weapon which take part of a global evolution.

@russellthompson8414 4 года назад

I took your advice and went to the museum last November. I will need to go a few more times. It was worth the drive.

@Zeppflyer 4 года назад

If Doug Dimmidome had a gun with a bayonet, he would also have one so long that the end was out of frame.

@UXB1000 4 года назад

Did someone say... Doug Dimmadome? As in the owner of Dimmsdale Dimmadome?

@coltenmeyer2775 4 года назад

The doug dimmadome?! Thats the owner of the dimedale dimmadome!

@vincentrempel1603 4 года назад

I feel like this should be on Matt Easton’s channel. Still awesome to see here👍

@jonathanyaeger2289 4 года назад

Were this Matt’s video we would have learned the swords weight, length, PoB, and context Instead we got “ridiculous” 4 times.

@carlmcmuffin7443 4 года назад

@@jonathanyaeger2289 stfu, it's much more interesting to here about the history

@nolanolivier6791 4 года назад

CROSSOVER EPISODE!!!

@nolanolivier6791 4 года назад

@@jonathanyaeger2289 I suspect that Ian and Matt would get along 'swimmingly', as they say. Also, Captain Context would have a considerable degree for potential contribution to the discussion of bayonets on InRange tv...

@albertoa.r.5886 4 года назад

Do we all watch the same channels? ;-p

@christempest8476 4 года назад

Gun maker: What size bayonet do you want? Napoleon: Yes

@matthayward7889 4 года назад

The grip and basket on that sword are just gorgeous! I thought the Baker rifle’s sword bayonet was pretty impressive until I saw this!

@Xarthis 4 года назад

I wonder what Matt Easton of Schola Gladiatoria would think of this...

@Giloup92 4 года назад

He would say : the blade is straight, so it is not a sabre, but a sword.

@jonc8074 4 года назад

length, penetration, context and breech loading pommels

@torianholt2752 4 года назад

@@Giloup92 No, he would define a sabre by it's hilt.

@hjorturerlend 4 года назад

Look up his videos on cuirassier swords. He has a section on these, tho there these were originally designed to be lances.

@SimuLord 4 года назад

@@Giloup92 The ghost of George S. Patton might have something to say about that.

@hehe3301 4 года назад

This is a really cool rifle that would be really interesting to have a modern reproduction of!

@pixelbucket8884 4 года назад

Arisaka with Katana attachment.

@joshp2542 4 года назад

My two favorite era's of firearm design is early semiautomatic rifles(including bolt action conversions) and early breach loading designs. Keep up the great work, this is an incredible channel.

@staguar 4 года назад

"You got your bayonet in my lance!" "You got your lance in my bayonet!" Two great stabbies that stab great together

@Acin75 4 года назад

"The French copy nobody, and nobody copies the French"😂👍

@earthenjadis8199 4 года назад

This is not ludicrous. It's the greatest thing I've ever seen - France beat out SquareSoft by 140 years.

@cnhnx 4 года назад

If you mean Gunblade from Final Fantasy VIII, they're not gun with blade combo. They're just blades, they don't even have barrel. The gun mechanism is only used to fire blank cartridge and the resulting energy will enhance the blade power. Sounds stupid yeah, but it exists in universe where magic is common thing.

@UXB1000 4 года назад

@@cnhnx Although, this mousqueton's bayonet reminded me of Ward's spear, with regards to the length.

@sharonrigs7999 3 месяца назад

This gun is a thing of beauty. Gorgeous machine work!

@gloin10 2 года назад

There was a saying that "Sooner or later, someone is always tempted to turn a perfectly good self-loading pistol into a bad submachine gun." This seems to be more a case of someone not being able to resist turning a perfectly good heavy cavalry sword into a bad pike....

@boboayame2065 4 года назад

The bayonet probably increases the maximum effective range of the weapon though

@sneakysnek2185 4 года назад

British soldier fixes his forge, French guy "oh ho ho you think that tiny stick gonna protect you" attached sword to rifle "engaurd"

@Verdunveteran 4 года назад

Cool! I actually have the point of a Sabre-lance du Mousqueton des Cent Gardes mle 1854. It was found somwere on the First World War battlefield in the Verdun area, stuck in the scabbard of a Berthier carbine bayonette. The back end of the blade sticking out had been cruedly hamered into a tang for a grip. The artifact was found and given to me by a friend of mine. Very cool to see you talking about both the mousqueton aswell as the bayonet for it in this vieo. I've heard that these bayonets were shoretened at some point in time. Somhow one of the points cut of during this shortening process found it's way into the hands of a French poilu to be used as some sort of trench dagger.

@1101agaoj 4 года назад

:D perhaps the BEST review I've seen Ian cover, Merci !

@wraithcadmus 4 года назад

You know for modern ceremonial guards a silly-long bayonet like that is probably way more effective at giving drunks/tourists/protesters pause.

@ScottKenny1978 4 года назад

The Buckingham palace guards seem to make do with one hell of a shout.

@AppleBiscuits 4 года назад

Can't wait for the sequel where some genius sticks a Zweihander on his musket.

@mbr5742 4 года назад

The german answer to this?

@jabloko992 4 года назад

Germans gonna stick a Zweihander on an artillery gun, so even if it runs out of ammo, it can still be used as a battering ram.

@daviddavid5880 3 года назад

Man I love this show. Keep up the awesome work. Thanks so much.

@davidharing6475 2 года назад

I....I never thought I would see a bayonet longer than the gun it attaches to.

@ianfinrir8724 Год назад

What a time to be alive.

@aleidius192 4 года назад

Mon Dieu!

@saltyfrenchy4324 4 года назад

"So for your honor guard, you want sabers or guns ?" *"Yes"*

@danbraun3780 4 года назад

Been there a couple of times; need to go back. Thanks. Very interesting.

@henryrodgers7386 4 года назад

This... actually makes sense. The Palace Guards of any nation have two roles: crowd control and defense. This thing looks rather intimidating, and can be used as a polearm of sorts against enemies on foot or on horseback. And in it's intended role as a cavalry arm, well, there's a reason why lancers stuck around (pun intended) throughout most of the 1800s. Because long pointy things and short shooty things are very useful to those who insist on riding a perfectly good horse into battle.

@rageofheaven 4 года назад

The perfect blade for a 6' genetically engineered super soldier with mommy issues.

@TheBananamonger 2 года назад

Who are you referencing?

@DaLkalts 2 года назад

you might want to add a few feet , if it's mom Everest you're talking about

@tedariesdaguro6517 4 года назад

Would you prefer to carry a bayonet or a sword? French cavalry: yes

@bigDbigDbigD 4 года назад

Loading a firing cap while on horseback looks like a dangerous proposition. awesome bayonet.

@johnmorgan1629 4 года назад

Excellent example, for its age and to say it would've had some use when made (even if only relatively light) as well. That bayonet/sabre looks to be another superb example, in its own right.

@charles_wipman 4 года назад

I like more the saber/sword/"bayonet" than i like the mousqueton.

@michelguevara151 4 года назад

thinks me : "in the case of miss fires?" Ian : *"you have to tap out the cartridge through the back of the breach"* why doesn't this appeal to me?

@NevermindThee 2 года назад

What a beautiful piece.

@georgebulbakwa9017 4 года назад

That is freaking majestic. Not sure how practical it would be but majestic none the less.

@rogerjohnson8707 4 года назад

It doesn't look like the breech has been cleaned in a century or more.

@amorphoussolid8512 4 года назад

I need this for concealed carry, no worry about ammo when you have a sword attachment.

@edwardwood6532 4 года назад

Forget about concealed carry, I want to see someone open carry this work of art.

@494Farrell 3 года назад

"Would you like the new cavalry unit to be lancers, dragoons or hussars?" "Yes."

@ILikeToLaughAtYou 2 года назад

The bayonet is actually pretty ahead of it’s time with that type of locking lug, I’d say.

@TheCouchCommando 4 года назад

Also you know for sure japanese haven't seen that thing - only explanation WW2 officer sword doesn't have bayonet lock!

@ludgy7278 4 года назад

do they need to open the paper cartridge first before putting it in? or the flash from the cap burn the paper?

@aesbj9228 4 года назад

That crossed my mind as well. Would like to know.

@axelpatrickb.pingol3228 4 года назад

Latter...

@lairdcummings9092 4 года назад

The primer flash ignited the paper.

@yocapo32 4 года назад

The paper is burned alongside the powder

@gresvig2507 4 года назад

Yeah, I would like to see the cartrages. I know a lot of paper cartridges had an outer layer of tough paper you pulled off before loading, and I think (?) they were running with nitrated paper by then, might be wrong. So even if the flash didn't get through the paper you'd still get ignition after a quick hangfire. Honestly, though, those old percussion caps had dangerous amounts of fulminate in them, so I imagine that flash is gonna punch through quite a lot.

@jamesranger6283 4 года назад

Great piece. i understand how visually intimidating the rifle and saber would look In the hands of a palace guard at that time.

@Dread_Not 4 года назад

I'm so happy that in tumultuous times I can come to this channel for the same type of content and calm chit-chat in the comments. Thanks to everyone, Ian most of all.