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The Merwin & Hulbert company was a short-lived firearms manufacturing partnership between designer Joseph Merwin and the Hulbert brothers as financiers. Merwin wanted to design a particularly strong and high-quality revolver, and he succeeded - his guns are arguably some of the best revolvers of the frontier era. The company made a wide variety of designs, but in this video I will be sticking to just the Frontier and Pocket Army models. Of particular note is the very clever unloading mechanism!

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@ulfhunden
@ulfhunden 6 лет назад
I have a Merwin Hulbert double action small frame pocket .32 with the hinged trigger spur that my Great Grandfather won in a card game.
@jeffreydahmer3995
@jeffreydahmer3995 5 лет назад
My grandfather had a won a marlin .22 in a card game, my first name is also Merwin
@jason127x99
@jason127x99 5 лет назад
ulfhunden I've inherited from my father a 4th gen frontier model 44 cal with folding hammer. I've been told a folding hammer in a 44 cal is super rare. Mine also has a nickel finish. Wish it was blue instead. Mine MH is in mint condition too. I looked my MH up in a gun value book and it says it's valued at 7500.00 that was back in 2010. These 44 cal MH bring good money if they're in good condition.i don't think my MH has ever been fired before. No marks on the cylinder from firing it. There's even some Case Harding around the trigger. Beautiful colors. Kinda like the old Colts had.
@hrafnafloki1786
@hrafnafloki1786 2 года назад
Same here except mine has a property of stamp cause it was a cops back up in denver it's a .32acp
@theoneandonlybumpus2862
@theoneandonlybumpus2862 2 года назад
“I got a rock” - Charlie Brown
@Mygg_Jeager
@Mygg_Jeager 2 года назад
@@jeffreydahmer3995 No it's Jeffrey
@oolooo
@oolooo 6 лет назад
You mean to tell me that these ejected themselves faster than a Schofield , had an incredibly strong frame , ejected only the spent brass , were available at reasonable prices , were chambered in 44-40 and one was Double Action at the same action as the SAA was coming out ? .Why were they not popular ? .
@winfieldjohnson125
@winfieldjohnson125 6 лет назад
They were EXPENSIVE!!!! Yes, 4 exclamation point expensive!
@RandomPerson8492
@RandomPerson8492 5 лет назад
That and the company kind of went under from supporting the Evans carbine.
@richarddick1980
@richarddick1980 5 лет назад
because why you should spend hundred dollars,when whiskey shot cost 18-25 cents and the most expensive whore is 25 bucks.at the end of 19th and in very early 20th century not much citizens have guns.In Chicago there was leader of the gang with revolver,who never used it in his life because everybody afraid of fire weapon.So when he died actually what is happened that it was never loaded.Funny to say but even policeman not always had revolvers.At least in big cities like Chicago at that period it was simpler to rob a person with knife. usually those beautiful pistols just a gift and even regular ones where expensive.Lets take classic colt and it cost was about more than one hundred dollars.There was much more useful ways to spend money than fancy pistol...buy a cattle or a horse.
@markd5625
@markd5625 5 лет назад
@@richarddick1980 What are you talking about? A Colt SAA could be had for about 18 dollars back then.
@richarddick1980
@richarddick1980 5 лет назад
@@markd5625 yes!but back in the days 18 bucks is like about couple hundreds nowadays.Deringer was sold about 5 bucks with rounds.Isn't it expensive?whiskey-20c.room-1buck.good whore-3 bucks.THE BEST WHORE IN USA AND EUROPE IN CHICAGO WITH ROOM,DRINKS AND BATH FOR WHOLE NIGHT IN LUXURY BORDELLO IS about 15-20-25 bucks.
@dandan1844
@dandan1844 4 года назад
The ability to swap out different length barrels quickly and easily is one more aspect that made these revolvers so unique.
@greghardy9476
@greghardy9476 Год назад
Not to mention possible caliber interchangeability!
@kevinforget549
@kevinforget549 3 месяца назад
@@greghardy9476 sort of. the rim diameter would need to be similar otherwise it wouldn't catch on the back of the gun for extraction, it would however allow for swapping between 44 russian and 44-40 for example, or between different 45 cals.
@rodan2852
@rodan2852 Месяц назад
That is insane
@ianlowcock6913
@ianlowcock6913 3 года назад
I encountered one of these when I was 19 (that's 46 years ago). I loved them then and I still do. As a fitter & machinist/engineer I was ecstatic over the quality of design and workmanship. How one came to the colony of Victoria, who knows, but their history really shows that just because your product is excellent, doesn't mean you have a winner.
@rodan2852
@rodan2852 Месяц назад
Not fair. Colt gets all the glory. An 1877 is beautiful, but after that its clunky and overcomplicated at the very least. Colt 1878 cylinder lockup is horrible too.
@krmould
@krmould 9 лет назад
Wow, another "Forgotten Weapon" that I have never heard of but which is facinating to learn about. Great job Ian.
@arvidlevinsno
@arvidlevinsno 5 лет назад
Yap
@recondogohome360
@recondogohome360 3 года назад
I know!! I can’t wait to start this video but I can’t stop jacking off!!!
@YCCCm7
@YCCCm7 9 лет назад
That design is god damned brilliant. So many small, yet relatively simple mechanisms that not only made the weapon easy to use, but more tactical than competing models. Amazed I haven't heard of these... then again, what else is forgotten weapons for?
@rbrtck
@rbrtck 8 лет назад
+YCCCm7 While its design is undoubtedly very clever and its quality is fantastic, making this one very cool gun that is still underappreciated, I'm not sure that it is appreciably more "tactical" than its main competition. The Smith & Wesson No. 3 is probably the fastest to unload (all at once with the top break) and reload (two cartridges at a time, practically, with all chambers exposed), but even this advantage didn't allow it to dominate over the Colt Single Action Army, which had other advantages in use such as better balance and feel (according to many--in general many people just liked it more), and a hammer that was easier to reach. The Merwin & Hulbert was quicker to unload than the Colt, but not quite as quick as the S&W, and was as slow to load as the Colt. Additionally, it had some of the disadvantages of the S&W, such as its longer hammer reach (I think). The fact that the M&H retains unfired cartridges, allowing for topping off, is a neat feature, but I'm not sure how often this would be done in the heat of combat. If it were as simple and convenient as topping off a shotgun or lever-action rifle, then OK, but with the M&H there are two steps and you have rotate the cylinder to the empty chambers, which requires looking through the loading gate. As for fame among the public today, the Colt SAA likely won out because most movie and TV westerns featured it, and that was probably because most people think it's the nicest-looking revolver. The S&W No. 3 and its ilk were also rather popular in real life and were favored by many, including some in the military, for their reloading speed, but even it hasn't garnered much notoriety among the public, so the M&H really has no chance.
@paulw6057
@paulw6057 4 года назад
@@rbrtck Funny, I prefer the look of the S&W, M&H and certain British revolvers of the period to the Colts; the Pocket Army (birdshead) M&H and the New Model no. 3 S&W in particular.
@henrywindsor7037
@henrywindsor7037 9 лет назад
It really sucks there isn't some company making guns of this same design today. That would be so cool!
@Devin_Stromgren
@Devin_Stromgren 6 лет назад
There was one that somebody tried to start, but it went under before it could produce a single revolver.
@Hibernicus1968
@Hibernicus1968 6 лет назад
@@Devin_Stromgren I remember that company. I exchanged a few emails with the guy who was trying to remake the guns, and I was interested in buying if he managed to make them. He was soliciting down payments to try and help him gather the startup funds, but I didn't bite, given all he was ever able to produce was computer images. No pics of production tools set up in a factory, no pics of partially machined frames and barrels, etc. I had a feeling then that all this would ever be was vaporware, and I was right. Pity, as I'd really love to have a reproduction of an M&H double action pocket army model with the 3 1/2 bbl, and made with modern metallurgy to handle smokeless powder cartridges.
@ltr4300
@ltr4300 5 лет назад
@@Hibernicus1968 I was just reading up on that debacle, found a forum that had posts from that guy who was attempting to produce it...apparently another company that does produce firearms purchased the name and rights and CAD designs, etc and also proceeded to refund the down payments that people thought they'd never see when the whole deal folded, something they probably could have legally wormed out of...so that might seem to indicate a desire to not have the name or assets tarnished by the bad dealings of a former incarnation...which means perhaps at some point you might actually see a product like you wanted. If you're into motorcycles at all you'd recognize some of this kind of story from the saga of Indian motorcycles, which went through problems and failures at the hands of several would-be brand renewers before getting one that actually had the chops to make it stick.
@Lowlandlord
@Lowlandlord 4 года назад
@@Hibernicus1968 Little gun companies like that should really look into Kickstarter or some kind of crowd funding nowadays. A problem Ian and Karl often point out is that the gun community talks bigger than they walk, they say they will buy shit, shit gets made and they don't. Leaves the producers in debt. Down payment at a reasonable price to help the company get going with a reasonable size and reasonable expectations. Can't get the funding, well at least it fails on the website before they buy everything and become in debt themselves.
@samhouston1288
@samhouston1288 4 года назад
The problem is that it would be a very niche market, and the guns would not be cheap which would even further reduce the amount of people who would actually buy one of these. It's one thing to say that you want one of these, it's another to plop down $1500-$2000 for one.
@PajamaPantsStudios
@PajamaPantsStudios 2 года назад
This gun is gorgeous. I’m dumbfounded why this isn’t in more media with how fancy and “tacticool” it would have been with all its features.
@ayebraine
@ayebraine 8 лет назад
That's incredible. Such an exquisite, elegant design! A mechanical wonder. Although the single-loading hurts it against later top break or swing cylinder desings, everything else just looks that more refined, modern and sleek than any of the "classic" revolvers that remained unchanged to this day. Double action, selective ejection, rock-solid locking and load-bearing... Can't believe I missed this installment of FW. Thank you!
@kevinsullivan3448
@kevinsullivan3448 7 лет назад
In the days of loading gates (when these were produced) this was the faster reloading pistol.
@RockIslandAuctionCompany
@RockIslandAuctionCompany 9 лет назад
My favorite M&H facts: 1. Sole revolvers to drop only their spent cartridges. 2. Only 5% of production were made with a blued finish. 3. The reloading/disassembly method also made barrel changes quick and easy.
@KylleinMacKellerann
@KylleinMacKellerann 6 лет назад
I've seen a dual barrel M&H in a collection, you could have a 3 1/2"or 7" barrel on your pistol, just change out the barrel/cylinder assy.
@jason127x99
@jason127x99 5 лет назад
Rock Island Auction Company How many 4th gen 4440 with folding hammer? I've got one in almost mint condition.
@nathanpinney4230
@nathanpinney4230 5 лет назад
Kyllein MacKellerann my dad had a 3rd model pocket army with both barrels and matching serial numbers
@fhorst41
@fhorst41 2 года назад
Any idea what these sold for at the auction?
@Omnihil777
@Omnihil777 Год назад
The Enfield mk1 revolver had a design that drops only spent cartridges, too.
@DreamwalkerFilms
@DreamwalkerFilms 7 лет назад
Come on Uberti
@wizardofahhhs759
@wizardofahhhs759 6 лет назад
Too bad a company like Charter Arms don't make a model of these.
@theveteransergeant
@theveteransergeant 5 лет назад
@@wv9mm I feel like the quality of the MH revolvers is often overstated, and from what I've read from reputable sources of actual MH gun owners, that it comes from a book written about the MH which may be little more than propaganda from an enthusiastic author. From a practical standpoint, there wasn't anything about the MH that couldn't, or wouldn't have been duplicated by any of their contemporary manufacturers. A good gun, by all means. A really good one, even. I can't imagine Uberti making a "budget" repro of this, and it would take years to recoup the R&D either way. Definitely be priced up near their top-break S&W clones in the $1200+ range just because they'd need many years to recoup the R&D costs. But there's nothing about the MH that wouldn't be immediately and vastly improved by modern steels and manufacturing techniques. Sadly though, I doubt we ever see one. It's just not well known enough to sell through top-dollar prices. Plenty of people know the Model 3, so Uberti will eventually recoup enough on that and the price will decline.
@therideneverends1697
@therideneverends1697 5 лет назад
@@theveteransergeant i mean with C&C the reproductions could actually be tighter than the original
@theveteransergeant
@theveteransergeant 5 лет назад
@@therideneverends1697 Absolutely. A modern repro of this gun could be fantastic. I'm just saying that people have often taken Sullivan's book as fact, but there's little about the M&H revolver that was head and shoulders above its contemporaries. The S&W top break is a faster way to extract and load an empty revolver, so the only superiority in the M&H design was that it could retain unfired cartridges. But that wasn't perfect, often needing some "wiggling" to get them to settle back in properly. The new rounds still had to be loaded through the gate like most other revolvers. So you've cut one part of the process out, making it faster than the Colt or Remington, but slower than the top-break S&Ws. Still, the 3rd-Model M&H with the top strap is a fantastic gun for the time. I wouldn't say I'd "buy one in a second" because of the likely price, but I'd be sorely tempted.
@humorlessclown
@humorlessclown 5 лет назад
jtar7242 - you know what this revolver could do? It looks like it could be fired suppressed. Now would someone spend 1200 to own and shoot a suppressable revolver in the same caliber as your lever action brush gun? Probably still no but I know what I’m doing if I ever win the Powerball 😎
@diasirea
@diasirea 9 лет назад
Clemenza, in Godfather 2 (or the better, longer Godfather Saga), carried a Merwin & Hulbert in scenes as youth. Really neat pistol. A few years ago some gun mags had articles on the "soon to be available" repros. Likely reality made them cost prohibitive.
@jason127x99
@jason127x99 5 лет назад
diasirea Big Valley had and few MH in it.
@KC.45
@KC.45 5 лет назад
diasirea Red Dead Revolver
@duanesamuelson2256
@duanesamuelson2256 2 года назад
As a reproduction this would be a very inexpensive proposition for the gun itself (ignoring the engraving). From what I saw during the break down there would have been relatively few steps for CNC machining.
@ATruckCampbell
@ATruckCampbell Год назад
@@duanesamuelson2256 Considering they were made back then and still reasonably priced, they are surely even cheaper to make now.
@jesusoftheapes
@jesusoftheapes 5 лет назад
that is the finest revolver I have ever seen in the solid frame short barrel that did not sell . If that gun was made in 357 magnum today or any caliber really I would own several . Man that would be a great pistol action with modern ammo like 357 mag !
@Sedan57Chevy
@Sedan57Chevy 9 лет назад
Please do more on these revolvers. First time I saw one was in Godfather Part II in the flashback half of the movie set in the early 20th century and I fell in love. These have to be some of the most gorgeous handguns ever built and I would absolutely love to own one.
@jason127x99
@jason127x99 5 лет назад
Sedan57Chevy I got one and they are well built just as good or even better than a Colt SAA. I've got a few of them too.
@keithlivingston1221
@keithlivingston1221 Год назад
I have one of these, had no idea what it was or what it was worth... the craftsmanship is no joke as you are saying... I also have other modern high end firearms and the craftsmanship from them are still not as well made as this revolver...Just an incredible piece of history, I really enjoy looking at it thinking about how the highest and strictest quality control back then was taken seriously 100%...
@frederickwise5238
@frederickwise5238 8 лет назад
One of my neighbors had two of these. He said the one was in 38 and the other was in 44-40. In 1975 they were immaculate with no pitting or surface blemishes that I saw (tho I did not handle them myself). Both were frontier 3rd models with top strap and longer barrel.Something Ian doesn't speak about which my neighbor explained and demonstrated with loads and emptys. The feature was extremely valuable to a cavalryman. The gun could be emptied and reloaded or "topped off" at full gallop. Empties would fall out AND any unfired would NOT.Someone below asks the question why couldnt it be loaded with the cylinder forward. BECAUSE the cartridge rims had to index on that inner ring for later extraction.
@farmerboy916
@farmerboy916 8 лет назад
He did talk about that.
@francescofissore161
@francescofissore161 6 лет назад
I'm lucky having got one original Merwin Hulbert revolver, a 'Frontier' single action model from early 1878, in .44 M & H, with standard handle (not 'bird-head' shape) in great condition with 95% of shiny nickel. Truly a mechanical masterpiece, fantastic to say the least. That vacuum thing indeed does exist, you guys keen on firearms can believe me !! Just the price for it (bought here in Italy from a gunshop owner) was equal to three of my monthly pays, but patience - glad I made it along the time, gun is worth any of my spare minutes to fully enjoy. Hope before too long being able to get another one, but could be a double-action one with top-strapped frame - same seller. However this time price is going to be somehow a real 'issue' ah ah... will see though. Thanx so much for this top interesting video - greetings from Italy. Frank.
@lemoncurry351
@lemoncurry351 9 месяцев назад
I love finding out about obscure weapons from the cowboy era. I hope ian keeps finding more pieces of history like this to educate us on!
@alfredmorency8296
@alfredmorency8296 4 года назад
This was a particularly good video. I had a chance to handle and fire one of the double-action guns when I was 13 or so, it made enough of an impression that I remember it clearly 44 years later. The owner was of the opinion that it was the best revolver of its time, I didn't know enough at the time ( I knew quite a bit about firearms in general but this was totally outside my experience) to have an opinion but now I would agree.
@alexmarshall3815
@alexmarshall3815 9 лет назад
So much better than most other revolvers of the period!
@georgegonzalez-rivas3787
@georgegonzalez-rivas3787 4 года назад
Cool. Learned something new. And I'm replacing my Schofield-.45 gunfighter daydream with a M&H double action Frontier on my hip in a Mexican holster and an M&W Model 3 army in a shoulder holster. And I desperately want Uberti to make one!
@dennisswartz4937
@dennisswartz4937 9 лет назад
I have one of these in a .32 short. Very interesting little gun that came to me with interesting story from prohibition era. It is very tight and in great condition with 85-90% nickel plate and is a double action.
@andrewince8824
@andrewince8824 8 лет назад
Absolutely amazing design and craftsmanship. Thanks for sharing this with us Ian
@LNoHandle
@LNoHandle 5 лет назад
Ingenious design from an older era... I hope information like this survives to inspire inventors thousands of years in the future.
@spyder335
@spyder335 2 года назад
the tolerances on these are incredible, most modern fitters would struggle to machine that well.
@Sube-Tube
@Sube-Tube 2 года назад
Pietta and uberti still don't make guns this good
@kg6qzx
@kg6qzx 7 лет назад
I'm with you....Merwin & Hulbert guns were some of the finest guns made. It's so nice to see an "original" gun on RU-vid as most videos show reproductions...there is nothing like an original gun from the old west. They all have a unique personality and so much history. All that is lost when you are looking at a reproduction. Your videos are very informative and professional. I even learn things I didn't know when I watch. Thank You for taking the time to post these fine videos.
@gregszy8575
@gregszy8575 5 лет назад
I am moderate gun enthusiast and most of my interest is in its mechanics. You explain it greatly and in simple way. I love your videos. Thank you very very much.
@dernachtschreck830
@dernachtschreck830 5 лет назад
Never heard of that and I am fascinated how clever that unloadmechanic is. Impressive design!
@sanfordhoffman2392
@sanfordhoffman2392 9 лет назад
The Elmer Keith was one of the highlights of the video. Lol
@HeatherSpoonheim
@HeatherSpoonheim 9 лет назад
+Sanford Hoffman Missed that - thanks for mentioning - got me off to wiki - meaning I learned more. :D
@sanfordhoffman2392
@sanfordhoffman2392 9 лет назад
Heather Spoonheim Glad I could help in the learning process. Interesting story. Responsible for the .357 magnum.
@HeatherSpoonheim
@HeatherSpoonheim 9 лет назад
+Sanford Hoffman Yeah, read the whole wiki page about him - interesting character for certain.
@sanfordhoffman2392
@sanfordhoffman2392 9 лет назад
Heather Spoonheim Very true. I'm not sure if I've even read the wiki article on him. I'll have to take a look myself. :)
@NonApplicable1983
@NonApplicable1983 8 лет назад
I actually missed that on the first five times I watched this video.
@loganpollock1689
@loganpollock1689 6 лет назад
It was popular in the east as well. It was sometimes referred to as the 'Shop Keeper' or 'Watchman' because of its popularity with merchants and policemen.
@ShawarmaFarmer
@ShawarmaFarmer 9 лет назад
That Elmer Keith cough was pretty hot
@winfieldjohnson125
@winfieldjohnson125 6 лет назад
What's with the Elmer Keith cough? I've never heard of that.
@KickyFut
@KickyFut 5 лет назад
Ah! Elmer "Don't Call Me Fudd" Keith, the father(?) of the Magnum bullet! A man known for developing bullets that were overloaded with gunpowder which challenged the strength of the weapons they were used in... 😓 Thanks, I couldn't understand the cough name.😅
@emiliochavez5121
@emiliochavez5121 5 лет назад
Winfield Johnson Elmer Keith is an old timer who would hand load his rounds super hot to test the capabilities of the bullet and gun... he innovated the .357 magnum round by stuffing a .38 special almost full with modern powder...then he made the casings longer so people wouldn’t blow there guns apart by accidentally chambering what was, at the time, the most powerful hand gun cartridge in the world.
@winfieldjohnson125
@winfieldjohnson125 5 лет назад
@@emiliochavez5121 Yes, I know all that, but what is with this ,"Elmer Keith Cough"......?
@warphammer
@warphammer 5 лет назад
@@winfieldjohnson125 For a critical part of the story (and why Ian said that).... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3t5X8f__vpk.html
@Beemer917
@Beemer917 4 года назад
Wow , I have really gained an appreciation of these pistols from watching this video. I had never heard of them before. Thx Ian
@wullgrew1
@wullgrew1 9 лет назад
One of my all time favorites. The precision of the machining absolutely floors me.
@ifitsfreeitsforme1852
@ifitsfreeitsforme1852 3 года назад
Considering what they had to work with back then, the precision is impressive.
@achloist
@achloist 6 лет назад
I'd heard of the guns, but I'd no idea they were so well made. Really beautiful gun.
@lordslashcat4804
@lordslashcat4804 9 лет назад
Brilliant review! Thank you for your attention to detail in the fine engineering of these revolvers. Wish they still made them today.
@sanfordhoffman2392
@sanfordhoffman2392 9 лет назад
Ian, good job with showing those weapons. Sometimes the best doesn't always mean the most successful. That's a shame. Those are incredibly fine pistols. Extreme high quality for their time. Or any time for that matter. Thanks for the education on these weapons.
@jason127x99
@jason127x99 5 лет назад
Sanford Hoffman I've got both Colt SAA and MH and I agree MH is way better built. Not to say Colt is bad.
@jimmelnyk7506
@jimmelnyk7506 7 лет назад
Thanks for this video. I have often heard of the Merwin & Hulberts but have never seen this detailed information. Great video.
@GinSoakedBoy
@GinSoakedBoy 7 лет назад
Had to revisit this video. Gorgeous guns, and from everything I read and hear about them, terrific quality too. That solid frame pocket army in particular would seem like a winner. Alas...
@NostalgiaBrit
@NostalgiaBrit 3 года назад
This channel has rapidly become my all-time favourite YT channel! 🥰❤️🥰❤️🥰❤️
@kenhelmers2603
@kenhelmers2603 6 лет назад
I wonder what it would take to do new production of those..... Thanks Ian and RIA for sharing these with us.
@greytallcloud5695
@greytallcloud5695 5 лет назад
Around 2750 just factory cost, that was a low estimate to get investors. The other issue was some of the parts are hand fitted and they don't have any tolerance schematics the factory burned down around turn of 1900s and they lost all records, the model I have is the only one known to exist.
@Cascademenace
@Cascademenace 9 лет назад
These revolvers just look robust and confidence inspiring.
@RTRFriendorpho
@RTRFriendorpho Год назад
Just inherited a M&H .38 pocket revolver. These are awesome old west guns.
@jamesellsworth9673
@jamesellsworth9673 4 года назад
Thanks for showcasing some splendid machine work and hand gun design.
@oXdeeiv
@oXdeeiv 5 лет назад
This is the most beautiful and practical revolvers I ever saw in this channel
@LG47LW579s
@LG47LW579s 9 лет назад
Never heard of Merwin and Hulbert before. Very interesting design. Great!
@STB-jh7od
@STB-jh7od 9 лет назад
I read about these many years ago, and always wondered how it expelled only the fired shots. Thanks for demonstrating that.
@FredDude27
@FredDude27 9 лет назад
A double-action Hulbert was used by character "Clell" in the 1980 movie "The Long Riders".
@dankoblinski3441
@dankoblinski3441 6 лет назад
Yeah Randy Quaid played as Clell Miller....however I was told the real Clell Miller carried two Smith & Wesson Schofield SA 44.40 revolvers that were chrome-plated.
@markd5625
@markd5625 4 года назад
@@dankoblinski3441 The Schofield contract started in 1875, Miller was dead in 1876. I doubt he would have live long enough to have got a Schofield. It was most likely another S&W No. 3 he carried. Pretty sure they would have been nickle plated, not chrome.
@stayvigilant2334
@stayvigilant2334 9 лет назад
Beautiful firearms, the mechanical workings are just ingenious!!! Excellent video👍
@Kit-vb5rm
@Kit-vb5rm 2 года назад
Many thanks Ian. You make us aware of so much of the history of firearms. This episode is really special as it highlights,to me at least , a preciously unknown maker of what appear to be a superior quality pistol.
@celestialfix
@celestialfix 9 лет назад
Thanks Ian. Another excellent video. There was some talk of a manufacturer remaking the M&H and I think they even took some deposits on the first guns, but whichever firm it was they got cold feet, didn't go forward with remaking it, and returned the deposit money. Too bad, the cowboy action market would have loved it, but of course it would had a higher price point due to the unconventional, but superior, M&H design.
@StonrMoose69
@StonrMoose69 2 года назад
Oh my god those were so ahead of there time and super under rated
@tammysilverwolf1085
@tammysilverwolf1085 9 лет назад
Great video as always, Ian. These guns are really interesting, and I could see this thing being really highly sought after in that period. Very interesting stuff!
@Anubis78250
@Anubis78250 4 года назад
Love these videos You talk about the fit and quality of the firearms, from the minute you picked it up and started operating it I was thinking how beautiful the mechanism sounds. You really can hear the quality. I've got a number of modern revolvers and I wish they operated as smooth as these.
@HunterShows
@HunterShows 8 лет назад
The frightened deer gun didn't sell?? It looks so nice.
@Poleson
@Poleson 4 года назад
It probably didn't meet the seller's reserve price.
@FinflazodeTurroai
@FinflazodeTurroai 4 месяца назад
Now this is a very clever and strong gun. Very well made, too.
@jamieweirdworld
@jamieweirdworld 7 лет назад
As mentioned in other comments, a reproduction version of these revolvers would be awesome. Amazing design.
@GeorgiaDawgAthens
@GeorgiaDawgAthens 6 лет назад
05/12/18 Received my copy of "Guns of the Old West" magazine yesterday and began reading it today. One of the articles is "Godless Guns" by Larry Ford which details some of the guns used in the Netflix series "Godless" and, one of the guns mentioned by the author was a Merwin Hulbert revolver. While I would never identify myself as anyone other than amateur on guns, I would have expected at age 68 to have, at least, heard of this gun model. Came to RU-vid to see if it was reviewed by someone. Yes! Forgotten Weapons, this has been an OUTSTANDING review! Thank you! I now have a clearer understanding of Ford's explanation. Liked/subscribed/belled. Now, I will look up this 7-part miniseries on Netflix.
@VegasCyclingFreak
@VegasCyclingFreak 8 лет назад
I've never heard of these guns until this video. That rotating barrel & cylinder assembly scheme is really cool!
@LunchBXcrue
@LunchBXcrue 8 лет назад
I'm amazed at the ingenuity of some people. They're pieces of art I say.
@Snandra66
@Snandra66 9 лет назад
Nice looking guns, look reliable too.
@youtoob4life
@youtoob4life 9 лет назад
I don't know why, but I really love that unloading mechanic. I would love to own one of those some day. Fun and interesting video again! Thanks :D
@asdatrollys8944
@asdatrollys8944 10 месяцев назад
Why have these things slipped under the radar… these things are incredible
@splash4000able
@splash4000able 3 месяца назад
I got an engraved one double action in 32 Smith and Weston loves these guns
@bauer431
@bauer431 5 лет назад
Coughs* ("Elmer Keith") Pure gold Sir, pure gold
@ShaunShearman
@ShaunShearman 5 лет назад
WOW ! These are absolutely stunning early revolvers and shamefully, I had never heard of them before this 'Gun Jesus' educational video appeared on youtube. Thanks for taking the time to show us these remarkable revolvers, very much appreciated ! Also, I did laugh out loud at that 'cough'/Elmer Keith moment, when you was mentioning higher than normal pressure reloads I was thinking of good ol' Elmer Keith myself, good to know that we are on the same wavelength. Keep up the great work, I do so love your videos both in the style that you shoot them and the content that you include.
@reedpond6867
@reedpond6867 7 лет назад
They are great shooters. My Grandfathers 44-40 M&H's were accurate, very accurate!!! These were the guns that got me started in reloading revolver ammo!!! That 44-40 case was a real bear to reload for. I learned all about attention to detail reloading for the 44-40!!!
@FyremaelGlittersparkle
@FyremaelGlittersparkle 5 лет назад
These are incredibly fascinating to learn about! Up until today, I'd never heard of them, but they were really innovative guns!
@lordpelvis63954
@lordpelvis63954 4 года назад
Ian.....its time for a new video on these revolvers. Ive watched this one like 3 times.
@johnnschroeder7424
@johnnschroeder7424 9 лет назад
Seriously well designed and made revolvers! Thanks for the heads up on a great gun design
@freemarketjoe9869
@freemarketjoe9869 Год назад
I own a Merwin & Hulbert spur trigger 3rd model with skull crusher handle, short barrel, medium frame in .38. The rumored production of all variants of these fine guns is less than 6000, not a very high number, considering S&W made about half a million revolvers before 1900 alone. It’s also easy to prove these are pre 1899 antiques, no license required to own, because the company went out of business in the late 80s. I can confirm the quality is a thing to behold. Built like a bank vault.
@KorbinX
@KorbinX 9 лет назад
have to say that second model is an awesome handgun! good video Ian
@milgeekmedia
@milgeekmedia 9 лет назад
Magnificent! Never heard of these before, what wonderful handguns - superb engineering. Thank you for the video.
@stephenarling1667
@stephenarling1667 4 года назад
That extremely close tolerance pin is like the close tolerance air bulb and timer pistons used on some camera shutters of the late 19th - early 20th century.
@joebenzz
@joebenzz 6 лет назад
Uberti or Pietta should make those
@ab5olut3zero95
@ab5olut3zero95 5 лет назад
Fantastically beautiful pieces! would sincerely be interested in a modern reproduction.
@Swarm509
@Swarm509 7 лет назад
Just an FYI. If you want to see this pistol in action in a movie (shot and reloaded) it is featured in "Bone Tomahawk." I went looking to see what it was a once I found that out I figured Forgotten Weapons would have a video, and was not disappointed!
@troy9477
@troy9477 7 лет назад
Wow. I only knew a little about these. What beautiful build quality. Wasn't there another revolver design that pulled forward to extract? Can't remember the name. Too bad the military never bought any. I could see the 3.5" being used as the General Officers' Pistol. A gun that size would have been ideal as a second gun for a gunfighter- just compact enough. Decent for concealed carry in town too. Great video. Outstanding vintage guns
@licustoms
@licustoms Год назад
I think one of these, in the type that the 3rd one shown is, probably my favorite revolver ever... now to source one for my collection. Thanks Ian for showing these models and how they function! (I have been eyeing one in the RIA catalog for a while now and was really curious how they reloaded as there were not enough photos of the one I saw to show any further insight other than a single picture of the left side.)
@michaelweedmark2774
@michaelweedmark2774 9 лет назад
Damn, i think these might be my new favourite old revolvers, up with the colt navy.
@elpoderdelasgalaxias
@elpoderdelasgalaxias 7 лет назад
Old favourites of mine.
@jasonlovi8745
@jasonlovi8745 4 года назад
Bring these back to production.
@axelord4ever
@axelord4ever 9 лет назад
Love the extraction contraption.
@steveman751
@steveman751 5 лет назад
Damn these are some beautiful revolvers.
@Jesses001
@Jesses001 9 лет назад
Why did I only having a passing knowledge of the existence of these before? That is a great system. I think I like it better than the Scholfield.
@arnomaas6452
@arnomaas6452 9 лет назад
..bless you Ian !
@The_Foxymew
@The_Foxymew 9 лет назад
Man, I love the unloading action and such for these. They're awesome. Practical and all. Someone should make new guns with that kind of action or something o.o
@pbr-streetgang
@pbr-streetgang 4 года назад
Real slick looking guns.
@Alexx120493
@Alexx120493 7 лет назад
I would have loved to get this double action frontier model
@robertrobert7924
@robertrobert7924 2 года назад
All it takes for a manufacturer to go under is for a large customer to not pay for a large shipment. I would love to handle one of these machined marvels.
@NormanMatchem
@NormanMatchem 9 лет назад
Wow, very cool revolvers!
@natwolf687
@natwolf687 3 месяца назад
Without a doubt, this would be my carry piece circa Back to the Future III.
@johnathonowens6516
@johnathonowens6516 6 лет назад
My favorite old west revolver.
@cariboupetepeterson3711
@cariboupetepeterson3711 9 лет назад
Outstanding overview!
@Alex-hf5kg
@Alex-hf5kg 6 лет назад
I'd love to have one of those. They're certainly easy to fall in love with from afar, I can only imagine how nice they are up close
@imadrifter
@imadrifter 6 лет назад
Very beautiful revolvers.
@CooperHudgins
@CooperHudgins Год назад
I first saw these in The Godfather Part II and had no idea what they were, so I looked them up and now I’m here😊
@BobSmith-dk8nw
@BobSmith-dk8nw 4 года назад
Thanks Ian. .
@plymcousa3002
@plymcousa3002 6 лет назад
Yup those are some beautiful revolvers!
@indraterbeek4461
@indraterbeek4461 11 месяцев назад
Ooooh, that fitment that gets the vacuum! There is NOTHING else like it! When I feel that in something I made, I know I'm good. I'm so surprised that that was already acheivable at that point it in time, let alone be achieved on a commercial product. Goes to show that "old timey" engineering is NOT to be underestimated.,
@ronrobertson59
@ronrobertson59 2 года назад
My Dad had one in 44-40 DA 3rd model if I recall. It disappeared from his collection in about 1965. He was always swapping guns I think he traded it for a Colt 1909 in 45LC..
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