Are All POLYMER 10 mm Pistols Junk? Is there a 100% reliable one? 

bought the rock island 10mm double stack magazine, haven't had any problems with it, it is heavy, but shoots on target 100%, 16 rounds. I like it

The tanfoglio is awesome, Accurate and reliable. They will cycle with .40s&w pressure ammo and super hot Buffalo bore. It's worth a shot. It's basically a 10mm CZ 75.

My G40 has had 0 issues in OEM form, as have my G20 & G29. Say what you will about Glock, but they just work. Yes, ive spent more on accessories than the actual gun, but all throughout (from OEM to now in Roland Special format) its been dead set reliable. Ive shot from cheap Magtech to Buffulo Bore & Core Bon. It runs it all without hiccup. The one & only time ive had a hiccup is when i tried running an aftermarket recoil spring. Glocks just work.

10mm is a reloader's cartridge that needs some fine tuning for the pistol. Autoloaders work best with a fast burning powder, quick pop load. The 10mm needs the slower burning, " kabooom" powders for the famous 10mm velocity. For the 1911 10mm, 18 to 20lb recoil spring, 25lb mainspring along with the flat bottom firingpin stop & good magazine springs. Good combination for a variety of hotter loads. Polymer pistols are dependent on recoil springs & magazine springs. You really have to tune the gun springs to the load. The trick for factory loads is to find the load your gun likes. Factory loads may use different powders, subject to availability. The weeker loads are probably more reliable in a variety of pistols. Too many variables. Very expensive to do a lot of testing & tuning. The 10mm is worth it.

The biggest problem is the wide range of the power of the round. From the realm of 40 s&w to 41 magnum. You can get reliable, but you have to tune the pistol to what you are going to run. In my experience, with glock, and a kimber 1911, a 22 lb recoil spring is the sweet spot on function from warm to rowdy. And I'm talking blue dot rowdy.

Agree with you completely. I have had a few 10mm handguns, down to three. The best I have is S&W 1006 if you can find one. There are a few things about the handgun that I don’t like, but as far as reliability goes, never had a single problem. It shoots anything you feed it. I love 10mm but I have switched to 357 Sig for reliability reasons. Love my Sig 229.

I watched all your 10mm related videos. A wealth of information. Thank you so much. As much as I appreciate the information, I’m disappointed that it’s not what I wanted to hear. Over a year ago, I saw your videos regarding the M&P 4”. That’s the gun I really want, but I’ve been holding off hoping they would work out the kinks. Apparently that has not happened and no sign that will happen. Thank you again for all the work and money you’ve put in to testing these various platforms. I’ll continue following you to hopefully see a report in the future of a 4” 10mm double stack that I can bet my life on.

All hale the Springfield XDM 3,8 in the 10mm flavor.!!!! 10mm is the shiznit!

I have a G29 and G20, both gen 4. Have shot SB 180gr, Underwood 200 Gr Hardcast, Underwood 180 and 200 Gr JHP XTP and have had zero issues with reliability with either of them. From what I've seen, that has been the experience of most people who have shot these guns.

I have a 4.5" XD-M in 10mm. I put a Powder River Precision trigger kit in it which has an aluminum trigger (and kept the factory springs). The kit shortened the pull, made the break crisper, and has an audible and tangible single-click reset. Much better. So far I have about 1,400 rounds of all types of ammo (including lead bullet reloads) through the gun with zero malfunctions. I have not done any bench work with it for accuracy but there is nothing to sneeze at so far.

I have 2 Glock 20's and 2 Springfield XD and have never had a problem with any. I shoot light loads at the range and underwood hunting. We hunt very big hogs here in the south and I never had a problem taking the biggest or felt like my handguns were unreliable. If I did I absolutely would not risk life and limb with these 100lb -- 500lb hogs. 10mm or 357 with hard cast bullets will take anything in north America. That being said, I didn't think I would want to face the huge bears in Alaska with a 10mm.

I think we need to account for the fact that the vast majority of pistol R&D for the past ~50 years has gone into 9mm chambered pistols. Like that design and reliability has pretty much been perfected, and if you bring a new 9mm offering to market, there’s no reason it shouldn’t be 99.999999999999% reliable.

I've got a Glock 40 MOS and a Glock 29 for EDC and both have been 100% from the start and the only watered down ammo I've purchased has been the Barnes XTac 155gr which was seriously disappointing in the penetration department (it opens just fine but...). With the exception of some Underwood ammo purchased for carry, everything else has been my reloads, *none* of which could be considered 'watered down!' Just the opposite in fact, some have perhaps slightly exceeded what most would consider safe and sane! All of the loads are now within reasonable limits, as sanity prevails (one does not exceed 50 years of reloading without at least a little bit of caution and sanity!)! The biggest problem I've had is getting the bullets I want to load (are you listening Speer? Probably not...) and not getting the velocity published in some of the manuals. I'm still playing around with that issue, unfortunately. Having the issues you've had is, I think, a bit unusual, so maybe there is a black cloud following you around, although I doubt it. While I've yet to experience any issue with any of my Glocks that would require them to be returned to Glock, I can understand - to a point - a hesitation to rely 100% on one but having had issues with other defensive pistols, I don't find it all that difficult to prove to myself that they are reliable enough for defensive purposes after whatever repairs have been done. Perhaps you're more difficult to convince than I am but I don't think that one broken part on one pistol defines and condemns the entire brand. However, when it comes to ammo, I am in 100% agreement with you. One big problem the manufacturers have, however, is that 10mm isn't popular enough to justify the development costs to design and produce a specific bullet for 10mm. They either use a 40 Short & Weak bullet that fails horribly when driven at true 10mm velocities, thus have to water it down to get to be reliable or just give us whatever they have in the way of FMJ. Reloading is, unfortunately, the only way one can assure one gets actual 10mm velocities, however then we are completely stuck with the mercy (ok, the lack of) of the bullet manufacturers who either have dropped off the face of the planet (Speer comes immediately to mind!), who only have 40 Short & Weak bullets, or who don't sell their components to us peons living in the mean streets! It is a dilemma! Fortunately, I find that other than the Lehigh Xtreme Defender bullets (my EDC choice in all of my carry guns), any 180 gr. that will open in cloth covered gel will work just fine as a self defense round. It's near impossible to get a 10mm into the realm of "too much" when it comes to velocity with a 180gr bullet, so they tend to work just fine in the defensive roll. The only potential problem is actually finding some for sale! Cheers, jc

My Springfield XDM elite has been flawless. Hollow points, full metal jacket, even hard cast, I’ve never had a jam and the accuracy is superb. It does print about an inch and a half high at 25 yards but as long as I aim just a tad low it’s on the money.

I had a Super Redhawk in 10mm that jammed, lol. I sent it back to Ruger and they said they couldn't fix it. It was shaving bullets and leaving fragments in the chamber which made it so rounds couldn't fully seat, causing jams. They sent me a brand new 44 Mag Super Redhawk to replace it.

Right on everything. Well said. I've enjoyed collecting, customizing, and shooting guns for many years. When 10mm pistols improved, I bought several with polymer frames. However, they all had high recoil, were obnoxious to shoot, and often inaccurate. I sold them, and bought full-size 10mm pistols with steel frames. Much better - moderate recoil, comfortable to shoot, and accurate. The advantage of polymer frame pistols is they're lighter to carry. However, when it comes to 10mm pistols, steel frames are much better. The best full-size, moderately-priced 10mm pistols with steel frames are Sig Sauer, Tanfoglio, Dan Wesson, Colt, ArmsCor, and Kimber.

Glock 20/29 So far proving to still be relevant in that regard.

The biggest issue with 10mm factory offerings is mostly due to factory ammunition variables; it is probably the least adherent to an AGREED upon standard of loading.

I have not had a single issue with my 3.8 Springfield XDM Elite

glock 20! I have had several for over 10 years and they function flawless! my glock 10mm and 40s function perfectly!

I have 3. No issues with any of them. I do load all my own 10mm though so maybe that is why. I have changed the spring to a 22lb spring in my G29 and have also changed my spring in my kriss vector but they both run flawless with full power and lighter loads, no problems even suppressed

I appreciate your realistic honesty in all of your videos man

I have the smith & Wesson M&P 2.0 10mm with the 4in barrel. I personally am very happy with mine. I have close to 300 rounds through it with only 1 malfunction after my very fist shot. The accuracy is pretty spot on as well.

Thank you for your videos on the 10mm. Based on the multiple issues with each different one, it appears to me that manufacturers were expecting more shooters to shoot the .40S&W through it. Which one would think that you could solely based on minimal overall size differences. You have unintentional taught us the difference between a break-in and. Breaking period

I've been very fortunate that all of my 10mm pistols have performed as expected this includes my Hi-Point JXP pistol. None of mine have needed any break in period. I haven't try the Colt, Ruger, Sig, XDM or Tangfolio yet. Thanks for doing this video, I enjoyed it

Honestly before any of the modern polymer 10mm came out I was very on the it’s only good in a metal frame guns train. My personal favorite one is a P220 from Sig Sauer. Been pretty reliable from all the experiences I’ve seen. Downsides are it’s heavy, low capacity, and on my $$$$, but it’s honestly the most trustworthy gun I’ve seen in 10mm

The X Ten most likely doesn’t have an issue. It’s the 230 grain that was the issue.

I have the Glock 20 and 29 and they are perfection! Edited because I now have the 40 and it’s perfect too❤

I love my XDM ELITE 3.8 10MM. I plan on ordering a new trigger safety so I can keep shooting while I copy the safety out of aluminum, stainless, or carbon steel. I think that would solve the trigger issue breakage and so far that runs like a champ.

I’m a damned Sig / CZ fan boy. Bought a Springfield 3.8 XDM Elite and, like every gun I buy, went over it with a magnifying glass. I have never seen any of my semi-auto hand guns of any other manufacturer that looks as nicely put together as this Springfield. It just screams quality. I’m impressed.

I’ve been doing this for years also and you can take a Glock 20 put an aftermarket barrel in it and it shoots 100% out of the box and for just cause put a 22 Lb spring and your good, I’ve owned several glock 20’s and I had no issues with it and that’s with target and hot hardcast

Xten owner here. Had jam on the 3rd round thru the gun. 600+ rounds in.. no issues after that first jam. I hand load 220 grain hardcast and use a unique load of 3.9 grains.. and they feed/fire amazing.

I carry the Underwood 125 grain gold dot in my .357 Sig .. 1520 FPS from my G32 .. absolute beast of a round .. Shame it’s been so overlooked ... it really is a great cartridge...

Very good points colt delta elite keep it clean it will eat anything also ruger wheel gun 10mm no issues 100%

You want 10mm... get a Tanfoglio

No problems with my Sig P320 X-Ten with Magtech 180 grain FMJ (which is fairly warm stuff) and Underwood 200 grain hard cast. 10mm is a specialty caliber to me, I don't need it to eat every weird botique round out there. Specifically the 230 grain BB stuff, which is outside of the normal range of 10mm ammo in bullet weight.

Glock 10mm pistols work great. Me and many of my friends have had no issues with them whatsoever. Even with Buffalo bore heavy loaded stuff they have been fantastic.

Well said! Thank you so much for making this video. This captures what a lot of us are feeling!

15 years with my G29 and never had a malfuntion.....

For now I'll stay with the 10mm short !🤣enjoying your work , Thanks.

Know this is a older video, but having now tested the Hi Point 10mm, Will it handle the heavier stuff.

I carried a Ruger .357 mag when in the woods for two decades but it was only six shots. Now, I carry a Springfield Armory XDM -10 10mm. 15+1. You bought the XDM Elite series. Get yourself one of the old reliable XDM 10mm that is not this new Elite model and you will be fine.

Spot on, brother! I want to run 10mm in both range ammo and carry ammo! I think Sig Elite 180gr FMJ (haven’t seen for sale in a long time!) and Magtech 180gr FMJ is as close as you can get without reloading. If I want to shoot .40 S&W, I have pistols for that. If I want to shoot 9mm, I have pistols for that. IMHO, the 10mm is an extremely versatile cartridge. One example is those on a budget, or just want to own one pistol, can water it down to .40 S&W, run middle of the road loads, and run Norma spec loads or Underwood and Buffalo Bore. This caliber can be loaded to suit your defensive, hunting, and range needs/wants. The XTEN is a beautifully ergonomic pistol for me, but I want one with a 4 inch barrel. With 767 rds of the Magtech fired (with a FTF and a FTE) and 46 rds of Underwood 165gr Gold Dots (no issues), the gun has it’s issues. The 15 round magazine is a small as humanly possible (surprisingly smaller than the XDM 16 rd magazine), and with that, probably needs to be about 2-3mm longer to make seating a loaded mag on a closed slide easy… and racking the slide on a fully loaded mag easier…. Now, after firing the rounds I’ve fired, it eased up racking the slide ever so slightly. The biggest issue I have is slide to frame wobble. With the magazine removed and striker at rest (not cocked) the slide has a horrible rattle. My XTEN is my 14th P320, and none other exhibits that wobble! The barrel to slide fit is tight, and is more accurate than I am. I’d love to see a good shot put this on paper. For reloaders, the XTEN kicks fired brass in to the next zip code!

I just purchased the Sig X10. I think I share your opinion on the polymer frame 10mm are kinda wack rn. I hope this Sig x10 can handle underwood 220gr hard cast. I really like the P320 frame but I also need a very reliable gun for woods carry. LWroad was using some wack 230gr double tap that didn’t work in any of the polymer handguns he had. I think that’s the round being the issue. He also shot underwood 220gr hard cast and 140gr extreme penetrators threw it just fine. I am worried about the feeding issue Chuke had but I honestly had the same feeding issue with 15rd in the mag with my Sig P320 xcompact. I pick it up from the store tomorrow and will be testing many rounds this weekend at my cabin. Can keep everyone updated. **Update **- shot about 50rds of standard 10mm 180gr FMJ range ammo with no issue. I shot about 20x Underwood 10mm 140gr extreme penetrators and 20x 220gr hard cast 10mm with no issues. The only issue so far is that I can barely get the 15th round into the mag and it will not fit into the x10 mag well to feed. Unless it’s slide is back and you are reloading. It’s weird. Other then that it shot amazing and it definitely kicks a bit more then 9mm😂 This is my first 10mm handgun.

I love the 10mm and I totally agree. I keep going back to me Sig 1911 in 10mm. I did have to go to a 24 LBS sprinf over the 18lbs. But it just works. I just sold my Gloxkl 20. I hope with 10mm popularity going up makes these companies take seriously the need to build a quality 10mm. I just want to add I was in Alaska and my friends Ruger revolver had the cylinder jam in the cold. My 1911 still worked. Not saying revolvers suck. Just any mechanical devices fail. I know you know that. That is why I prefer a semi still with 10mm. Even the polymer ones. May require some parts to improve what the cheap manufacturers won't do. Lol

My Glock 29sf with kkm barrel is reliable and will shoot hardcast. My delta elite and kimber eclipse 1911s are reliable with factory ammo, but have feeding problems sometimes with semi wadcutter hand loads. Yeah, you are right about factory ammo often being light loads, always check the velocities on the box before spending $$.

My Glock 40 Gen 4 10mm MOS is a beast. I sure do love 10mm!

Excellent conclusion! Not just an opinion but a well-researched evaluation based on empirical facts! Thanks for all the effort you put into the 10mm Auto project.

Well said👍, I see FN just came out with a model 510 tactical 10mm , polymer with 4.5” barrel. There’s a write up about it in March issue G&A. I’d be very interested in seeing you give that one a run, only a cool grand or so 😀. I’ve been real happy with my old sw 1006 but not polymer and too heavy for CC. Keep up the great honest down to earth vids 👍👍

I definitely agree. It’s been hard to find one that it’s totally dependable and reliable. I know it’s pricey, but have you considered the Sig P220 Legion in 10mm? I’ve heard many great things about that gun

I agree. There’s too many loads and not enough consistent ammo out there. Sure they should make watered down loads for “plinking” but also hot range ammo for people to get used to the recoil as well. The problem with all of these guns is usually the springs being to loose or tight for the ammo. This is why the companies should have 2 springs and label them for their intended use and this would solve a lot of issues .

Sig P220 in 10mm is good, and it’s built like a tan

I started to by a 44 mag revolver for this very purpose. I quickly changed my mind. One (or two) rounds on a close charging bear or Mt. Lion and you'll WISH you had more fire power. You can shoot a G20/40 all day long without failure. The logic of this makes about as much sense as saying you'd rely on a Ruger Single Six or GP 100 over a 9mm semi auto for personal protection or LE. NOT a very smart choice.

Couldn't agree more. Although we now have opposite experiences. My XDM Elite was super super accurate totally impressed. It jammed up after two magazines it's now back at Springfield. I bought the 4.6 in Smith & Wesson. I ran a single box of crap range ammo through it everything else has been high-quality true 10 mm. It only has one more hurdle to jump and that's the 220 hardcast which hopefully I'll get to put through it this weekend. I keep waiting for it to jam. Even though it's work flawlessly so far. I don't trust it, because of your videos. Standardization of cartridge shape and performance would be greatly appreciated. On a side note I got 2150 feet per second on the 90 grain tumble round ridiculous

Love 10mm. I've been happy with my Kimber Super Jagre - I haven't had any issues with it in 4 years. There were a few issues when friends limp wristed it but that's it. I switched to shooting Underwood Extreme Defender 100g about 5 months ago. So far, with 600+ rounds through it I've had no issues. I've been looking at and thinking of getting an XDM Elite in 10mm to increase capacity, I'm pleased with your experience, thanks.

Would like to see you run the Sig P220 legion through all the various ammo's and see how it does especially for the cost of that gun. I know its not high cap but still 2 or 3 more rounds than a revolver

Fair. I’d still take 15 rds of reliable 1100fps 200 gr over 8rds of .45….rather than throw it out for not doin 1200+

Only time I had a failure with any of the 3 10mm Glocks was user induced or a worn out magazine spring. User induced was caused by below minimum powder charge 😬

You are dead on with this video. My son and I have 5 10 mm guns S&W 4 & 4.6, Elite 3.8, XDM full size and 10 revolver. I replaced the mag spring in the 4 inch and solved the problem, no problem with the 4.6 so far. XDM so far so good , but haven’t run a lot of rounds thru it. 4.5 XDM OK so far. Revolver would be awesome except for the moon clips.. As far as S&W goes, their customer service stinks. The girl on the phone had no idea what she was talking about and was down right rude. We’re spending our time brushing up up on our revolver skills.

I've got the EAA Witness in 10mm, with the steel frame. So far, so good, but haven't put a lot through it yet.

Larry Vickers said once that he thought a 1911 45acp needed at least a 5 inch barrel/slide to be reliable. I found that to be true with Glock 10mms. I had three different Glock Model 20s and one Model 40/MOS. I had issues with all of the 20s. The 40/MOS ran like a sewing machine. I could hold the 40/MOS as loose as I wanted, shoot it upside down, whatever and it never choked. Every 20 I had needed a firm, perfect, strangulation hold or it jammed. I always ran hot factory ammo in all of them. Underwood, Doubletap, Buffalo Bore. Norma and Corbon in the good ol' days.

I know of zero products on the market in anything that has had zero issues. Ultimately this is opinion based which I listen to and take under advisement but my ultimate take is based off my experience. But hey love you put out your honest assessment. Keep it up.

I don't understand how 10 mm came back in style. Back in the late 80's and early 90's 10mm was trendy but quickly fell out of favor because the caliber always beat the gun to death. The fact that the new models are choking isn't surprising at all because revolvers tend to be structurally stronger than semi-autos and can handle hot cartridges more reliably.

This is the best gun video ever. Honestly, isn't this the reason we all watch gun video's. We're all looking for some insight and perspective. I don't have the time to do all the testing and researching... I just want to take it out of the box and shoot it. I'm so sick of people giving the companies and the engineers [ I'm one ] the "benefit of the doubt." If all the gun reviewers were like this we'd start to get some good products.

I run 45 acp Extreme Penetrators on my SA 3.8XDM for last 8 yrs. Flawless with 13+1 capacity. Perfectly protected here in Appalachian range.

I have experience with two all steel Tanfoglio pistols. An EAA imported Witness Elite Match SAO and an IFG imported Limited Pro DA/SA. Both are really quite nicely made and are reliable. Both have adjustable rear sights, the limited pro rear sight being the better of the two. There is a whole lineup of Tanfoglio pistols in 10mm with various features. IFG in Texas is the importer for new Tanfoglio pistols right now. But Tanfoglio has been making 10mm pistols for years. Certainly before the recent resurgence in popularity of the cartridge. I have no experience with the polymer P Match. I actually really like the weight of the all steel guns when it comes to actually shooting it. So the polymer p match never interested me. But I’m of the opinion that .40 and 10mm are much better suited to all steel guns. That’s where the two cartridges started, in the third Gen S&W semi autos. We’ve pressed them in to service in polymer guns over the last few decades and as you are finding out, 10mm for sure and still to some extent .40, have trouble being tamed in cheap ass polymer. It’s my opinion that the gun manufacturers have pulled a fast one on a lot of the gun buying community with the increasing use of polymers. So much so, that many people have never had the opportunity to see how much more pleasant it is to actually shoot a heavier all steel gun. I think you and many others are dispelling the myth that polymer = reliable.

Have only been shooting 10mm for about 6 years but have owned and shot quite a few... The only polymer frame gun I ended up keeping was a G40/4. To me the rest of the ones I shot were too hard on the hand. Have several 1911s...Kimber Stainless Target II, SIG Nightmare Carry, PARA Elite LS Hunter and a Kimber Stainless Target Longslide.... Mainly shoot 155/165 JHPs and FMJs and 200 grain hardcast flat points. Had a RIA TAC II Combat Commander size gun and it was 100% reliable with everything it was fed, factory or hardloads. Only reason I sold it was I didn't like the muzzleheavy balance that the bull barrel caused. It was replaced with the SIG Nightmare Carry in .357 SIG and a Fusion 10mm barrel added...that is my woods carry gun when I carry a semi... If you want a revolver try and find a Ruger GP-100 Match Champion in 10mm...very hard to find right now. Excellent shooter. Will run .40 S&W if one gets the thick clips from TK Custom as the factory clips are only made for ejection and easy loading and don't properly headspace .40 S&W...

You nailed it.. I’m lucky I hope I never have to run my stuff as hard as you do. But this is something I think you need more often. You need to put your thoughts out there. You will have more support then you think.

G29SF here. It’s my carry gun and runs 100%. I use HST and it eats them up.

Can' it be that hot 10mm deserves a metal frame??? 1911, Sig P220 Elite, Tanfo, revolvers, etc.

Outstanding and above Par analogy regarding the 10mm's ups, downs and lack of reliable Geometry. Thanks.

I picked up the xdm 10mm 3.8 and replaced the trigger/grip safety with powder river precision. Your xdm reliability vids convinced me this is the most reliable 10mm polymer on the market

Im still sticking to 10mm regardless of what. Automatic and 10mm revolver.

Powder River Precision makes a trigger kit that replaces the trigger with an aluminum one, as well as the striker block lever, sear and springs to make a shorter, smoother, lighter pull. The feel of the trigger on the finger is nice as well as the improvement in the trigger.... ....yes, you shouldn't have to replace a trigger when you buy a new pistol, but just so you know, there is an option for an upgrade out there...

I’m surprised ya had issues with the G20 I still think it’s the best one you can buy

agree about the watered-down ammo I have a 1911 in 10 mm most of the ammo available just does allow the gun to live up to its potential. I have had feed problem from time to time which I believe is mainly due to weak ass loads not powerful enough to properly cycle the gun. why manufacture 10mm if you are only loading it with a 40 cal. load. my friend reloads and the difference between his loads and factory ammo is night and day. he doesn't load super hot rounds either just what a standard 10mm should be.

I jumped on the 10MM wagon a few years back....and was disappointed. The hype was there and I think it was based on all the "LIMP" ammo. Being frustrated, I set about to find a working combo thru KKM barrels and judicious reloading. Since I retired a few years back as an engineer, I started with eliminating variables....but kinda working backwards. I can easily make 40SW that runs circles around off the shelf 10, so I wanted balls to the wall penetration. Caught lots of flack from my ASSociates. But physics is physics. Powder "X" pushes a certain grain bullet to a certain velocity within a certain barrel length. Now, on paper, there does not appear to be a significant advantage of 10MM over stout 357MAG, other than capacity. 180GR at 1400+ in 357 is not easily obtained but is within reach. 10MM needs a lot of mojo to do that. But I like PENETRATION! And that hands down favors HARD CAST LEAD WITH A WIDE MEPLAT! Preferably nose heavy too. Fellows, that 10MM with a 220 grain HC is simply spectacular. To hell with water jugs, that load makes 2 bleeding holes thru ANYTHING in my woods (elk and bear also...). Next item is recoil springing, which simply CANNOT be handed with stiff springs, so save your $$$$. It takes a compensator device to keep the chamber locked up until bullet is gone and then the thing can unlock. Do this and no kabooms....none! FWIW, I am getting real close with a KKM barrel and 22/24LB recoil. The barrel feeds the stubby bullets fine and I have found I don't need 1400 FPS. A lesson from the old Buffalo Hunters of days gone by......220 10MM hard cast at 1200 works well and no comp. Go faster, gotta have the compensator. I have seen the animals (big nasty ones) with 2 holes.....LENGTHWISE from 4 to 6 FEET APART!!! GOOD ENOUGH!!

Thinking that Hi Point you Demonstrated...was looking Pretty good to me....I would be ok with just getting the JXP10!🙂

I have a Gen4 G29 that has recently passed the 500 round mark. I've had very few issues with it. At about the 400 round mark, the third frame pin began backing out while the pistol was over-lubed (my mistake) and has jammed twice due to an aftermarket magazine (ETS). I don't run my pistols too hard, though, so I'm perfectly satisfied with this performance. I also have a Gen4 G20, but I haven't shot that one enough yet, about three boxes worth. I'll add to my experiences as they come.

Have not had problems with my SIG P220 shooting hot 180 grain gold dot handloads, but it is an all steel pistol. EAA no longer imports the Tanfogilo line of pistols; they are now imported by Italian Firearms Group (IFG). Don't have one in 10mm, but would like their 6" gold matchin 10 mm. I do have a limited pro large frame in 38 super auto which runs full power loads with the 125 grain gold dot just fine, and reliably. I did install the heaviest recoil spring wolff sells for the pistol just because I would be running hot loads in the pistol. The tanfogilo pistols are heavy, at least the all steel versions. I don't remember them having a polymer framed 10 mm.

I sorta kinda disagree with your take on the 3 guns that long winding road has tested using Double Tap 230 10mm. That particular rd is at or over max oal. With the super wide meplat it has, I can't really fault guns that the rd doesn't fit properly in the mags.....1 "boutique" style ammo out of many that are more than acceptable and function as designed. I have a 1988 yr Delta Elite, and both the 3.8 and 5.25" XDM guns. While I haven't shot any Double Tap through either, I have put a combination several hundred rds of Underwood and other full power JHP's through both guns without any malfs..... I know " my mileage may vary" from yours. As far as the S&W 10's, only the 4.0 has given any problems on the RU-vid vids.

I don’t want to sound cliché, but I’ve shot Underwood buffalo bar, Full house loads out of my Glock 40 MOS, and out of my Glock 20 and 29. I have not done anything to them at all. They’re factory stock and I have not had any failures or incidents but I do not ever use reloads either.

It would be nice to see CZ come out with one on a 75B frame. I've got one in 40 and push a lot of 180gr thru it and most are on the warm side. My only complaint is it throws brass into the next county.

just bought the xdm elite 3.8 10mm going to go shoot that in a few days..been carrying the G20 and G29 for years with no issues

No one is checking their COAL and they blame the guns, it's typically always a magazine geometry issue. Keeping stuff at 1.240 and less is 100% reliable in a 2011. You know the most finicky of 10mm handguns

the GLock 20/40 NEVER jam! What was your problem with the G 40?

I live with brown bears, 500 miles from the nearest road to anywhere. S&W broke the faith with their dumpster fire M&P. Nobody in Alaska will bring them up from the lower 48. We can't afford failure. We don't play. Springfield is a trash company that paid for gun control too recently to ignore. Even if they got rid of the grip safety that makes their guns unreliable, jamming, trash, I still won't carry one. However, a sloppy, constantly flexing, Tupperware frame made Glock the most reliable gun on the market for 3 decades. When they figured out that 10mm case needs a fully supported chamber, and called it "Gen 4," there has never been a more reliable 10mm than Glock 40. It doesn't care what the temperature and humidity are. Aluminum FMJ, HST, and Buffalo Bore can all run in the same magazine load. Expecting a Glock 20 to perform like a 40 is like expecting a 3" 1911 45ACP to perform like a 5" Government. Velocity isn't the only benefit to barrel length. Yes, Glock has the worst sights and the worst ergos. But it's the only semiautomatic pistol you can bet your life on in Alaska, in January or June. And they come with a clear conscience that Gaston Glock won't spend profits on gun control like Springfield.

I have zero reliability issues with my S&W M&P 5.25 inch barrel 10mm. I have run my hand loads from 135 gr to 200 gr bullets, loaded hot admittedly, and never had one hiccup. No FTF, FTE, etc. so hey man don’t know what you been shooting but mines dead nuts good👍.

Since 1993, I have been carrying, competed in PPC combat and Bullseye matches, shot hundres of different 10MM factory rounds from my Glock 20's gen 2, gen 3, and gen 4. Never experienced any reliability, durability or accuracy issues! A simple working and proven pistol design!

Dude! You're my trusted source on 10MM firearms now. A few weeks ago your videos personally sold me on the XD-M 3.8. I bought it, love it, no regrets. Thanks for your videos. I feel complete when it comes to polymer 10MM frames, I'm good with this, no interest in looking into anything else polymer-wise. However..... I do have the gun fever now, saw my brother's RIA 1911 and immediately wanted a steel frame (I've never cared about 1911s, ever, but they look nice). Been looking, and fell in love with the 6" long slides, but the prices differ WILDLY! I'd like to see you do a side by side, battle royale, of the 6" barrel 1911 10MMs. Specifically the ported Iver Johnson Eagle XL 10 and the Kimber Super Jägare (both can come with ported barrels, from factory). All I know about Kimber is people either worship or condemn them. They seem EXTREMELY overpriced, like I can get a whole AR platform for the cost of one. Your channel deserves to blow up, hopefully you get huge so you can afford ridiculously expensive tests like the one I want to see lol.

Informative. I’m going to stick with 9mm, .45ACP, & .357 Magnum. Years back I bought a Glock 22 that was a jam-o-matic. I sold it back to the gunshop at a loss and thought “good riddance!” My previous Glock 21 was super accurate and totally reliable.

Rock island double stack…no issues ever. Blazer target fmj, hornady hollow points, and lip stick hard cast rounds by underwood. Gun has over 3000 rounds. Sig sauer xten comp, same thing, same ammo. Zero issues. But mag won’t hold what’s advertised. Have to go with one less.

Glock isn’t junk

Long time 10mm shooter. Metal. Period. Only exception in my experiences, G20. My Gen 3 has outperformed my expectations. However, I'm not comfortable with unsupported chamber support. So I run middle level 10. My experiences of success have been my tried and true Smith 1006,EAAs top tier with heavier recoil springs. Sig Sauer Legion pistols are bar none proven. Sigs are not cheap. But it's perfect.

Would definitely try a Taurus 10mm,seems they have been hard at work as of late restoring their name.Don't see them destroying all that on a turd,now more than other times in their history👍

Durability concerns with a powerful round like 10mm is why I was looking for a 1911 10mm… I wanted to hold the Ronin and TRP Operator 1911's. The store only had the XDM Elite striker fired polymer in full size. I loved the round capacity, ergonomics, flared mag well, and the "Gear UP" deal so I bought the XDM Elite. I have only shot a few dozen rounds through it because I waited months for a custom shoulder holster to be made and shipped. I haven't shot it enough to make a certain proclamation on durability… that takes years. But so far, I feel confident in this polymer handgun. I refused the 6 plastic optic adapter mounts that Springfield will supply for free if you ask because I felt the plastic would not suffice for a 10mm. Instead I paid for the metal Springfield adaptor to mount my Holosun EPS Carry. the fit of the adaptor mount and optic is nearly flush with the sides of the slide. It looks great and I have confidence that it will withstand the recoil.

Mr. Turkey man, it's not a polymer pistol, but it's been a dream to shoot. I'm talking about my RIA 6" double stack in 10mm. It's heavy but it shoots everything. Range ammo to hot hot reloads. Never had a jam one. I better knock on wood, cause I probably just jinxed myself. 😁 Anyway, that's my two cents and I'm sticking to it. LOL have a great day

i have litterally thousands of rounds of my handloads, 200gr Hornady XTP with Longshot powder at over 1300fps out of my G40 without a single issue over the years, and not to even mention the factory plinking loads i buy to shoot for brass over the years. Accuracy is top notch as well.

This is right on. Here's a few things I've learned from many examples of Glock 20 ownership, and lots of hot 10mm, that will hopefully be useful to people out there, and maybe save some frustration: 1). Everyone saying their Gen 4 Glock 20 is "100% out of the box" simply does not train or shoot any significant volume, and likely does not shoot significant amounts of 10mm that is on the upper end of the power spectrum. People who take 10mm seriously, as well as proving their gun/ammo combination seriously, know that G20s are known to have failures to feed with hot, heavy, long OAL, and/or wide meplat 10mm ammo. The cause is generally accepted to be slide velocity that is too fast, and outrunning the magazine's ability to feed. The fixes (Much heavier recoil spring, increased power magazine spring) produce something that has extremely good reliability, but you're not going to get that out of the box. 2). Every Glock 20, whether you intend to shoot nuclear level 10mm in it or not, NEEDS a heavier recoil spring than what Glock provides from the factory (which is 17lbs). My baseline for any Gen 4 G20 is a 22lb spring. This alone will produce excellent reliability with all of the hotter factory loads (the Sig Elite 180 grain at 1,250 fps as an example). Not only this, but the gun will continue to function perfectly with watered down .40 S&W-level factory loadings, and won't even be grip sensitive (!). The fact that you can put a 30% heavier recoil spring in a G20, and it will continue to happily function with the weakest 10mm should be a clue that these guns are COMICALLY under-sprung from the factory. Couple this with the fact that the consistency of modern Glock recoil spring assemblies has been poor in the last few years, IME (inconsistent spring rates, and recoil spring assemblies that can spontaneously fall apart after heavy use). Throw away your OEM recoil spring. 3) You noted that your G20 had a point of impact that was significantly higher than point of aim. In my experience- THEY ALL DO. I've never seen a Gen 4 G20 that didn't shoot high, to the tune of ~4-5" high at 25 yards. Most people don't have the fundamentals to notice, but their G20s shoot high. Glock uses the exact same rear sight height on the G21 as the G20, which should be a clue that the sights out of the box are not regulated for a 10mm gun. This has an easy solution (Buy sights from a manufacturer that offers different height front sights like Dawson, 10-8, etc), but it's not gonna be correct out of the box. 4) A significant part of the problem, like you said, is that manufacturers are trying to produce guns for a caliber which energies are completely all over the map. It's probably not fair to expect a gun to be optimized for both .40S&W level ammo, as well as 'real' 10mm. I agree the standard for which these guns should be optimized is 200 grains at 1,200 FPS/ 180 grains at 1,250 FPS. For those who want something less, there are plenty of other handgun cartridges with lower power factors to choose from. Great vid.

I have a colt Omaha 10mm. I added novack tritium sights, 30pi checking. And flat black caracter finish. It has been reliable. I shoot a lot 1000 rounds a month. Iv changed the barrel twice. And I have changed the spring 3 times. I shoot 180gr jhp , most often reloads. I have taken most of my deer with this pistol because it is always with me.