Are English Clubs Farmers? 

The only thing that pisses me off are Premier League fanboys being arrogant, so it tastes good when an English club gets eliminated from a continental competition.

It is probably the best league in recent years, but fans are crazy delusional. There was a poll how would PSG do, and some suggested 8th place and one comment said Aston Villa is stronger than Barcelona. Turns out Villa is not stronger than Olympiacos.

As a German i can Confirm PL is the farmers League now lmao

The rest of the world hates the arrogance of English fans. The “Brighton would win Serie A” thing is an example of the nonsense that non-Prem football fans hate. The quality in the top 5 leagues is basically the same. The Premier league is the best but not by much. Results in European competitions will showcase this to you.

I'm so tired of this argument, that english teams can not rest their players and because of that are not dominating Europe. They literally have twice the money as any other league and can easily buy loads of more quality players. These excuses are just pathetic.

PL being the best league dosnt stop it from being a farmers league and extremely overrated

Farmers league is a term that makes me cringe in general. It basically is a word that exposes anyone who uses it for having no ball knowledge

For me it's not an excuse if you have more domestic cup competitions. Deal with it or get rid of the Carabao Cup and you have more freetime. But you need the money grap so you play it anyway.

Farmers league used to mean a league, where one team wins all the titles and bc of that farms titles (like Bayern and PSG). Nowadays ppl just call weak leagues that and it's weird

It makes me sad to think that clubs like Red Star or Steaua București conquering Europe will probably never happen again as their leagues don’t see a fraction of the money we see

Brighton could go top 4 in other league? What a joke, obviously these guys didn't watch football from other leagues 😆

1:29 I'm Brazilian and I had no idea the gap was that big, and there's a club that played 79 matches in a single season and we're still dominating continental competitions. wat?

It's such a shame 20th in PL gets more revenue than 1st in La Liga

I don't think anyone genuienly thinks the Premier League is a farmers league (at least I hope so). I think this is just people making fun of these unbearable Prem fans who think the Prem is the only league that matters in football

I don’t think you understand the concept of a “farmer’s league.” 🤭

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Short answer: Yes, they are. Long answer: Yes, they are.

The main issue is that "farmers league" is a stupid and ignorant term to begin with. Also the definition changes every time to fit the narrative of the person currently using it. For me it is simple: the only way to somehow compare leagues is european competition.

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Absolutelyyy brilliant video! Fellow American here but just gotta say great stuff man 🤙

The main impression is created by English players being rated much more valuable than the rest o the world. that's just because they have better contracts what makes compensation higher automatically, but also because they have a rule about at least having 8 English players in the team, what makes the fight about talents even worse

great stuff! :) it's not boring, it's our perception of boring.

Having offseasons can happen to any nation, for a counter example - Serie A had one team in each final of the european cups last year (all lost) and one of the two semifinals in the CL being the Milan-Inter derby. Most people here in Italy thought that our league was finally back to its former glory, only to be proven wrong AGAIN this year with the disastrous runs in the CL from Inter, Milan, Napoli and Lazio. And yes, while in the EL and ECL Roma and Fiorentina are still running up for the competitions I'm quite certain they will not win, because Serie A's level is extremely low, we just have what other league don't: defending.

There aren’t farmers how dare you, they are Premier Farmers. Big difference 😊

The EPL gets more TV money, but mainly because there are more English speaking people to watch it and not necessarily because it is better. It always got more TV money - even when the league was much worse than other Big 5. The question is whether the TV money translates into better quality. It allows you to buy more quality players but it also makes you complacent in player development and in tactics. That's why EPL teams usually fail on tactics. The intensity of top teams is comparable in Europe. If it was higher in the EPL, then English teams would dominate their European competition, but with the exception of oligarch/oil clubs most English clubs do not stand a chance of winning in Europe. Manchester City is therefore comparable to PSG in France. They are not in their position because of the league quality or TV money, but because of extreme cash injections from shady owners. The Spanish and German clubs are usually owned by non-profit organisations that do not inject billions into players which - on the upside - keeps the wages and transfer fees lower, while those costs are artificially inflated in England. That's why players in England are more expensive than in other countries. Regarding the winter break: In some countries this was introduced decades ago simply because the conditions were too bad to play. The winter in England is much milder than in e.g. Germany or Sweden. The risk of injury at negative degrees and in bad conditions was deemed too high. I doubt this has a big influence on Champions League Performance at the end of the season.

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This channel is way up there in football channels.

The Reason English clubs didnt compete for the champions league from 1985 was because they were banned after the Heysel disaster for up to 6 years

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here i am a milan/serie a fan onlooking all this fighting between the other 4 top5 leagues. nobody ever minds us for whatever reason lol

Great vid

It’s just one season. To support that hypothesis you would need to look at it over a 5 season time frame. There was a time in the 1990s when English clubs were dire in Europe (although I think there was a bad at one point to be fair) but that’s not the case anymore.

In the 90’s the rules around foreign players in champions league were tough for English clubs as welsh, Scottish and Irish players all counted as foreign, you were only allowed a certain number of foreign players at that time, this crippled the 90’s united team for a while.

3 different winners of the UCL in the last 5 seasons…that’s more than La Liga has had in its entire history!

As a Brighton fan, I’m just happy we won our group. That was pretty awesome

I hate Man U, but they were the Real Madrid of the premier league, the fact for over 10 years the "biggest club" in the prem revenue wise has been so mismanaged means the slightly smaller clubs have to take up the mantle. Imagine La Liga if Real Madrid suddenly forgot how to win, the league would lose much european prestige.

0:29 damn that image is so wrong, Walker had Vini in his pocket for 120 min.

The premier league has the hghest floor but the ceiling hasn't necessarily been raised. This year though, the 3 headed tittle race costed them on europea. Liverpool and Arsenal are looking knackered because they literally cannot loose a single Game to he able to Challenger city so they are oobligated to play allá the starters every Game.

I think one of the problems is there aren't enough team's with a winning mentality. City has one 5 out 7 titles and it gives only City a winning mentality. They know what it means to win a league. Sure the English were poor this year but when we had Borrusia/Bayern and Juve/Milan in UCL finals, all teams had winning mentalities from winning leagues and international trophies

It blows my mind that so many people don't understand what Farmers League means.

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With the new club world cup and world cup, players injuries and fatigue will significantly increase

good video!

in the best way possible i swear this guy has the exact same editing style as maqwell. i could just be attributing a common editing style to a certain guy tho which is dumb

France used to have the Coupe de la ligue (French league cup) in addition to the Ligue 1 (domestic league) and the Coupe de France (French cup)

as a german we always considered italy to be our top rival, in recent years france. england has never really been up there. heck, even a germany vs netherlands game draws more intensity from the crowd

Id say the premier league has more physically strong players and make more sprints but other than that it’s not much different other than maybe how slower they play in other leagues

The best Arsenal team in a Decade being Trashed by the Worst Bayern team in a Decade was Music to my ears hearing all the prem fans complain

I wouldn't mind if teams in europe didn't play in the league Cup, winner gets the conference league spot. At least then championship tes can compete more for a trophy and there us a new team in europe every season, or at least a team that wasn't in the season before

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It's not the best but the most enjoyable to watch. I can actually watch bottom league teams play and still enjoy it. Can't do that w the Laliga or BPL.

They run a lot but can’t translate that to Europe. Idk if running a lot means they’re so much better.

The reason why Serie A being the best league in the world back in 80s and 90s was not all about the Champions League success. During the same period, there were at least 1 club from Serie A making through the now-defunct UEFA Cup Winners Cup and the UEFA Cup/Europa League Finals. In the UEFA Cup Winners Cup, the likes of Sampdoria, Parma, and Lazio won at least once. In the UEFA Cup, it's even better. Excluding the 1996 Final, which was between Bayern Munich and Bordeaux, there were at least 1 Serie A club featured in the Final between 1989 and 1999. 4 of those 10 Finals were an all-Italian affairs, although it wasn't until 2003 that an all-Italian Final happened in the Champions League between Juventus and Milan, who were the only Serie A clubs that had won the Champions League in 1980s and 1990s. Also, Aston Villa lost to Olympiacos in the Conference League semifinal. Seems like the PL is the most overrated league in Europe.

Pep Guardiola is the only man I trust to determine which league is actually the most difficult between La Liga, Bundesliga, and PL

English schedule is brutal. EPL teams got FA, Carabao, League and Champions/ Europa. Lower divisions got the same just replace Champions with that motor oil cup or whatever it's called.

The most competitive league is Brazil...

Premier league is not farmers technically because yes man city won a lot of premier league in recent time ( with Liverpool only winning it in 19-20). They are not as dominant in the premier league as lets say psg in ligue 1 or even juventus in serie a at some point. The point gap is not as large. Point gap between psg and second place have been huge like we are talking around 10 to even more.

80s and 90s the seria A players were doping

Well we are becoming a farmers league, 115 FC might as well get given the trophy before a ball is even kicked. Our media & pundits have this sheer arrogance of hyping up how great our league is but let’s be realistic, we get humiliated in Europe most of the time when we face top teams. Only Aston Villa are the English representatives in any European competition. People use “fixture congestion” & “injuries” as excuses but let’s be real, you need to be playing consistently to maintain fitness & getting up to scratch. The Premier League has the most money but hardly the best in the world. Give me the Serie A of the 90s/00s over this current Premier League decade all day long!

That other leagues have a whole cup less and a winter break is not something set in place to get a competitive advantage in european cups. It's simply a historic thing. The PL does their extra cup purely out of greed. They also have significantly bigger squads to offset the loads. Overall it's kind of stupid to compare the different leagues with each other. Apples and pears.

Btw Madrid has 16 injuried player many if them key players, and 2 of them long term injuries being one of them the keeper that is one of the differetial players for them

France has the coupe de la league, the equivalent of the carabao cup

England was the "best league" because there was competition at the top. More variety of winners and close title and top 4 races often. From like 2010 on almost every league had only 1 or 2 teams winning the league. The best English clubs are not better than the best clubs in other leagues, usually theyre worse. But the 3rd to 8th place teams are usually superior to other league equivalents

In England everything cost twice as expensive, but it doesn't mean it's twice as good.

City played non stop since late march while Real Madrid played since what 3 games in april, and don't even think about their title challenger this year. The english FA is really that cruel

1:14 Him not knowing England has a King now is so American.

The top 5 leagues are closer than most people think.

im so happy it came Rome at the euros 2021, I wouldn't have survived the English twitter community

I don't think Farmers League means a league with teams struggling in Europe. Usually used to refer to a boring league where 1 single team dominates everything with no competition

English clubs have way more money and spend more money on players. They should be able to deal with the extra games. The point is they are bad at spending their money and bad at building squads. They are tactically behind as well. That's why they historically don't do well in Europe despite the financial advantage, though they had more success recently than in the 2010s when their record was diesmal

The Prem has no talented players ; just players who good at hitting stats threshold.... The results in the uefa champions league proves this

I made this case thousand times since 2006 when PL fans star growing, bc for all the 90's child Italy and Spain where always the top tier teams, the thing is and i believe with my heart on it the lack TACTICS !!! i know is a controversial topic, but follow me here, before europe change the status bc of BOSMAN LAW, then the leagues flooded europe with young talent from south america, that amount of pure, exquisite talent, technique, pass, dribbling, etc changed all of the dynamics of the game. The two Leagues who where the first to bring players from south where La liga and Serie A (Mostly bc cultural ties, almost everybody in wouth speaks spanish or some old grandads are italians), then the people saw real magicians in the field every single game, that forced to all teams to focus on full tactis to stop these monsters. Premier League never has experienced any Romario, Ronaldo, Messi, Ronaldinho, Kaká. Zidane, Baggio, etc multiple teams having multiple god tier stars and teams in your own domestic league for years... that creates a change in the way your own team grows. Then the english way of football: Fast runs, crossings, long shots, and physical streght. Has real trouble when faces styles like tiki taka or chaotic runs ,etc. Every other league evolved to some kind of "mixture" of styles, meanwhile, UK as usual, they didnt look in south america, they choose talent from his older colonies: Africa. The English football and the USA MLS in strange fashion they "think" the game alike, they think the game as a endurance test, not like South Americans or Spain or Italy ( We see the game as players around spaces and times) the Anglo way es less refined: "We need faster and younger wingers, stronger defence, taller GK to make and absolute endurance beast we call a team" .... Meanwhile other see the football as beauty, poetry, art, opera, patience,etc " we run when needed, we attack when the rival is careless about space or when the time is set" thats why other leagues have less intensity but manage to win over PL teams, its bc of tactis. Obviusly Klopp, Pep, Mourinho, etc try to change that style, but the England is very attached to his own tradition and historical style. Thats why the England always loose with the National Team, great players, bad tactis bc english "old school" tactis is truly outdated.

8:03 what about united, theyve been in like 5 finals?

If we are talking european front , they are improving i mean last season west ham and man city won european cups. This season , however , have been abysmal . Man utd grouped while losing to a danish team 4-3 and guess what copenhagen is not even first in the danish league rn , newcastle got grouped even if they battered psg in their group , brighton got battered by roma , Liverpool got absolutely slapped by atalanta ( 6th in serie a btw ) , man city loses to real , west ham beaten by the might leverkusen. Only aston villa remains here. Lets not forget the best arsenal side in a while losing to the worst bayern team in the last decade. Yeah you got my point here

Milan had a squad that could literally dominate everyone

Balanced take

Okay but we had more injuries than Arsenal

City, Liverpool and Chelsea have carried the PL in Europe for 10 years. Now even Chelsea and Liverpool are in decline and City are compromised by the charges hanging over them. The rest of our league can barely get beyond the last 16 of the Europa league or beat average German and Italian leagues. Our media employ mediocre pundits, low iq ex-players and failed managers who speak in cliches saying our league's the best in the world because a keystone cops game ends 4-3. Anyone capable of a broader view of European leagues and teams doesn't get a voice and our sports media only cater to the small-minded cliche spouting demographic of fans, on some radio outlets they prefer them to be slightly inebriated before they allow them on air.

Farmer's league is basically leagues like Ligue 1 and Bundesliga. Where 1 team does not just win too many titles in a row but also has too much money and resources compared to the rest of the league. Teams like PSG and Bayern could change their coaches, sell half the team and still win the title. Man City has dominated EPL for the past few years but that's because they have the best coach of all time at the club and he's doing what he did in Laliga and Bundesliga. Man City without him wasn't winning 3 titles in a row and wont be winning after he leaves. Simply because there's 4-5 other clubs in the league, who have similar resources, the money and the pull to compete and outspend them.

The Premier League is a farmer league, yet is the only one of the top five leagues to have had a genuine title race this season… We’re now going into gameweek 36 with Arsenal & Man City virtually level; Make it make sense?!

bro,didn't watch the West Ham home game...

5:30 says it all

6:10 don't get this argument. Roma are fifth in the Serie A table, and for the first Europa League tie, fielded a relatively healthy squad with both star players Lukaku and Dybala starting, the only big miss being Tammy Abraham. Brighton are currently twelfth in the Premier League table, and are currently going through one of the worst injury crisis of the current decade. They were missing their star wingers Mitoma and March, the top Europa League goalscorer Pedro, and had to play with unfit fullback Estupinan, and many more injuries and fitness crises on top of that. It was Roma's game to win.

pl is the best league , but the extend lots of punits and fans seems this goes is insane. No westhame don´t opperate on the level of Dormund. also about the whole pl has so many games yes they do but on the other hand that silly shedule is want gives them so much power they could easly go the bundesliga route only 1 cup (btw the FA/DFB Pokal comperison is a bit unfair as the FA cup only starts in January for PL clubs while in the DFB Pokal every team start from round 1) 18 teams and a solid winter break. but then the revenue of the PL would probabyl dorp around 500-1000M would it be worth it probably will they ever do it nope.

The scoreline dosent reflect the performance, against madrid city clearly played better but real Madrid ended up lucking out on pens, this isn't downplaying their win im just stating that city played better which they did

3 stats for sprints is crazy 😂😂😂

You get away with more clutching grabbing and fouling in the PL, seems the PL players do not adjust for European competition where those tactics are not as tolerated.

PL teams focus more on domestic football than the Champions League due to how difficult and physically demanding PL actually

I wholeheartedly agree that they’re farmers. English teams are all evenly matched and overhyped. When you go to Italian or Spanish football, it’s a lot different. Liverpool are use to playing wolves, burnley and Sheffield every week. If you drop a random team like AS Roma or Villarreal on them, they won’t know how to react to that. Football styles change when you move around Europe, it’s not all the same. In my opinion, Spanish football has always been the most elite, it’s just that Barca and Madrid are so good, you don’t get to see Real Sociedad and Real Betis get a chance.

Yeah Ligue 1 with PSG is not farmers league... They even can win the League with 1 hand and focusing in other competition... Others France clubs priorities money over trophy, doesn't care about competition, the real competition is to take 2nd in league and go to champions league to make more money and selling players of course...

i mean you talked about something different here... you talked about "is the premier league the best/ overhyped" also nice topic but Farmers means something completely different

i personally think the prem is the best league not because it is better as it has the best teams in the world, but the competitiveness across the league is the most even out of the top 5 leagues. the most points between two teams in the league or 7 points and that's between the very bottom team, the relegation battle, then the top 5 teams currently in the league. every other league has more points separating teams which in most cases was the first place team. calling the prem a farmers league is only a valid argument if you consider their success in Europe which I think is only is only so bad because you cant take one team in the league easy or they will punish you.

Gents my statement will not change, most ppl these days throw around the term farmers league and then disregard the quote on quote "farmers league' with little realization and knowledge about the fine margins that exists, the actual amount of competition, how good the almost unknown players or aka "bad players" and all the tactics battles going on in a games and I bet phone that 98% of ppl have not seen more than 10 highlights let alone watch watch a full game of a " farmers league" people forget about the Premier League and La liga because of their brandings and popularity in conversations and all the competitions they are involved in, I even know people that don't know more than 6 teams in la liga which is crazy, the word farmer league is actually just another way to insult the lower level of competition in other leagues besides the Premier League of course and you do have to remember that the Premier League more specifically the big six of the Premier League buys up great players from other leagues then either waist their potential or use them with no garenttee that their futures in their respective clubs will be sustainable and this long comment I typed should actually be considered every time a league or a player in a less financial fortunate club is getting disrespect or disregarded and majorly underappreciated.

The farmers league called Bundesliga is having a rich harvest this year.