I hate this line of reasoning. The workers in a factory have to make what has been engineered for them to make. Blame the damn engineers and paper pushers not the workers.
Having lived in Japan for a while I can attest to their domestic market having very different price/quality inclinations from ours. Everything is generally more expensive over there (except for food, which is delicious AND cheap, and other random exceptions) so generally people have much fewer possessions than us, but the quality and the service you get for each item or transaction is another level. Even the dollar store (Daiso) is a marvel of quality and service.
Nah, Hilti does fine, I'm sure if they sold one that advertised it was made with more durable parts everyone would buy it. But they'd make less sales because many people wouldn't buy new replacement upgraded tools every 3-6 years (depending on use) my dad who's now retired did carpentry electrical and plumbing 65 years and he's had makita tools that lasted 40 years before but they were made of only the highest quality parts. If Makita went back to that type of quality they'd have to charge more for the batteries. They could make really fast chargers which would degrade the battery faster but would be impressive then they'd get you there.
Last time I was stationed in Japan, the unit I was with had a Japanese worker who build shipping crates to ship ordnance in. He insisted on Japanese tools purchased out in town, not American tools purchased via the regular supply system, or from the local exchanges. He said they were junk. When he wanted a tool I would hop in a van with him to go out and buy it from a local shop using my government purchase card. He points, I paid. I didn't argue, I knew better. I am kicking myself now that I did not get any tools for myself while I was doing that. I wish I had. :)
What makes the application of Viton so great for tools like these isn't just the high temp rating. Viton exhibits nearly as wide of a chemical resistance as PTFE AND has an unlimited shelf life! Environmental deterioration in rubber compounds is what causes the "drying out" that typically causes failure in old or particularly cheap tools.
Can you review the Ryobi-Kyocera tools from Japan?! The good Ryobi from a parallel universe, that not many North American know the existence of... By the way, letters on the PCB board is in Japanese, it's a color designation for wires. The tool appears to be 100% Japanese made, like the ones from 1970/80s. Thanks for reviewing-
Where do you get this info Ryoby is part off tti it a Chinese compagny They own Milwaukee ridgid and ryobi and many more And ridgid plumbing tool are not made by tti but the logo is not the same color as well
@@banusbaby a quick search show kyocera bought 80% of ryobi in 2018 And tti is licensed to make them for the rest of the world Thank you was not aware of this
Alas, I still have my Kyocera made camera from the '90s and the thing is a work of black magic devilry, talk about making things well, she's made of titanium. Wish they still did 'em.
3:38 - That's just the wiring order for that board. It's got 紫赤青黄白黒 which is "Purple Red Blue Yellow White Black". While Chinese and Japanese share some parts of writing I'd guess that for something that already has domestically sourced parts (Nichia, Omron) they wouldn't skimp out and outsource a simple board. Bonus fact - The "happy little backwards e" is の and you see it a lot on stuff from Japan because it's the "Possessive Particle". It indicates possession between two words. Think of it like ('s) in English. The "Healing Bench's Shmoo" becomes "Healing BenchのShmoo”.
I own one like that - dtd171, made in a different country. The button is programmable. You can select one program and apply it to use when this button is pressed. When pressed again, the tool will revert to previously used program. Great for repeating certain actions without using both hands for program changing while on a ladder.
I have this Impact, bought it a few years ago. Still a beast, hasn't slowed down, and everyone is jealous of the colour. Well worth the $300 for it tool only
Just picked up the updated 172 on fleabay in purple! Would be fun to watch people try to decipher the settings. Not like I'll let anyone use it anyway! Side note, if you're a makita nerd like me, there's a fella from New Zealand I think who reviews all their newest stuff including 40v. He's often the only guy reviewing them in english. His name's Tools & Stuff.
It has the exact same internals as the DTD171 sold here in Australia. The older DTD170 also had the 40A fuse and nice Omron switch. This model is the top tier in their 18V impact driver range and is sold as the XDT16 in the US.
@@gruanger It means an electronically controlled variable speed, because in the old old times, the speed was crudely regulated with a rheostat... The atomic symbol means "electrons", thus "electronic". On METABO German tools, it means an electronic feedback circuit that lessens the bog-down when under load, and they call it "Vario-Constamatic"...
Yes. I have one Yanmar inboard diesel. My 2 outboard motors are Made In Japan...........Tohatsu! Many other Japanese outboards are made outside Japan now.
Yea i have a small tractor from the 70s fully restored (bodywork that is) 2cyl yanmar fires evrytime on its first stroke no matter what and without glowing
My 2013 mazda 3 has been assembled in japan and im at 100K and nothing broke on it at all yet! They put in more effort then most in their work its great!
@@saberxzero 03' Mazda 6 here, 272.000Km and the only problem it has ever had was becuase my brother (somehow) shorted it and screwed up the charging board but other than that it has been loyal as frig.
I've got the same impact driver and it's a beast. That little button below the trigger simply changes the mode. It's the same as the buttons down by the battery.
Just like their cars. They get the better motors with better interior, Exterior, and performance packages, also better factory wheels and suspension setups.
When you look at their past. When tourists started coming, they made stuff for them to look like genuine antiques. So they build tools for themselves and sell knock off to us. So it hasn't changed what we think is the real tool. Ha ha very clever.
@@radry100 That's why you get harbor freight tools cheap or go for better quality. So I would gladly pay 30% more if my daily tools lasted longer. Not cook off because of cheap part inside.
You continue to entertain with your impressive repertoire of language AvE. Your use of the term Gwai Luo brought a good laugh and a raised brow as I hadn't heard that term since I walked through the old neighborhood streets in Hangzhou on a business trip.
I've got the almost same model in anti theft teal. The little button above the switch trigger is a quick mode-switching button which you can program. Out of the box it will change the level of impact every time you press it, the front lamps will flash once if you press this button as an indication. This is very handy if you got a stubborn bolt that needs a little extra persuasion and you don't want to take the tool off the job to change the setting on the switches on the base above the battery. You can change what the button does by pressing it simultaneously with the hammer button on the base switches so it activates this function by pressing it, or you could do the same and press the lamp button if you want the switch to activate the lamps and you can disable it's function or resume the quick mode switching by pressing the button and the switch with the A and cyling arrow on the base of the tool. Every time you change the application the customize lamp on the base and the selected mode blinks. Hope this helps.
I buy and use almost exclusively Japanese tools. My Nepros and Koken ratchets and socketry items are literally a pleasure to use and their quality is amazing. I have a lot of respect for the Japanese and they have some really good people over there. They possess in general wonderful cultural characteristics (an emphasis on quality and trying their best being two of them) which I appreciate and admire. “Made in Japan” almost always means true quality.
Yeah, it's well known amongst the MD player and watch community that for the same models, the ones for the Japanese domestic market are better built. I have always wondered why that is but then I realised that maybe they don't have "built-in obsolescence" because they don't have enough space for landfills. They have Home Appliance Recycling Law since 2001 that forces the consumers and businesses to return their used goods to the producers at a fee. Being the law biding citizens they are, they would naturally gravitate towards longer lasting brands. Maybe that's one reason.It's probably not a cultural thing to make things last for the sake of it because their houses are not built to last as long compare to European houses.Anyway, I will need to talk more with my Japanese friend about this.
Fun fact: Superior Ni-MH were pretty common in Japan - and at the time Li-Ion were in the range of becoming available, no one in Japan wanted to manufacture them, since there were pretty confident, that Ni-MH were way better than those newcomer Li-Ion-crap. But Sony wanted to transition to Li-Ion especially for there camearas and did not find a company to produce them - so in 1975 they did a joint venture and formed what is Sony Energy Devices Corporation nowadays
@@MattOGormanSmith Yes, but not all NiCads were higher current capable. Cells can be optimized for either more storage capacity or more peak current, but not both. On average, you are right: the majority of the NiMH cells are not known as high current, and some NiCads surpass them in that aspect.
Nookler powered! I have always loved Makita tools. I have a Makita circular saw that must be 40 years old. I work this tool hard and it's still choochin' like she was brand new.
The kanji before "red" is "purple" it doesn't really have enough context to tell whether or not it is Japanese or Chinese as all the kanji present are used in both languages
@@FrankieG13 It's Japanese, but Traditional Chinese uses the same symbols, so it could technically also be Chinese. But because China doesn't use traditional characters any more, I doubt it.
If you get a chance you should check out some of the audio equipment designed and built by Micro Seiki in Japan. They started as a aircraft metal works shop and went on to do all of the high end engineering and consulting for all of the top manufacturers highest end products in the 70s and 80s. I have a BL-91 and the precision on this thing is incredible.
Japanese and German made products will likely always reign supreme, both in the history books and into the future. Now, regarding British made products, well, I think we all know how long a Jaguar will run ;)
German will reign supreme with their products that are overengineered in the wrong places and cost two to three times more for something that primarily a myth.
One fascinating story I read about Japan was how they wanted to make the best products /consumer electronic possible since their economy was destroyed after the war so they could recover. I feel like they still have that philosophy today.
I don't think so, look at Japanese cars from the 90s vs Today they are no better than a GM and a little bit worse than a Ford but in the 90s they ere ultra skookum and look at how they used to actually make things in their country now they make them in China like everyone else, I think Japan used to have better morals but I think the modern corporate world got to them
The main benefit is that the residual compressive stress from shot peening makes it much harder for fatigue cracks to start because they can't start unless there's a tensile stress.
Button above trigger on that model engages a pre selected "favourite" mode, so you can change modes on the main board for an odd screw, and press the favourite button to revert back to your main use mode.
Makita sell this model made in China XTD 16 for USA and DTD 171 for Europe, Would be interesting to see a comparison. That little button is a quick set so you can switch between settings.
Yeah that’s a great question also are the Japanese batteries better built but I bet those cost a fortune to ship over being so explosive like when punctured and boat or plane fires at the scariest kind of camp fires...
Batteries are totally the same though. Unlike the damn chargers that they apparently can't fit dual voltage into. Half my chargers are useless to me right now. I only have two, but it's the PRINCIPAL of the matter!
Language lesson for you - you were right in identifying Chinese characters (around 3:45 timeline) and going back in history both Japan and Korea exclusively used Chinese characters and only developed their own written characters in more modern times. While Korea switched almost completely over to using Korean characters, Japan still uses a combination of both and so you were quite correct in recognising the distinctive Chinese characters. While I don't fully understand how it works, I can say the 6 characters shown from left to right are colours and in Chinese would read purple, red, green, yellow, white and black which appears to correspond to the coloured wires below with one exception - green. When I translate that character from Japanese to English, however, it translates as blue. Not sure if that means when the rest of us see green, Japanese people see blue and if that's the case does the opposite apply when we see blue?
I've been watching your vids for years and a thought occurred (not related to this exact video unfortunately) but we all know about how water freezing expands and can cause some really serious damage. I'm a marine mechanic and every year we get boats with split blocks that were not winterized. It's crazy to think water can crack steal so easily along with rocks and all sorts of stuff. Do you think you might be able to develop an experiment where you can find a way to physically measure the force freezing water can produce? Only in a classic AVE way cause texts books are not nearly as fun as your vigaos lol THANKS!
Not to mention, they offer these in something like 11 colors instead of just the anti-theft teal that we get. Had to order myself a violet one for the toolbox at work.
In about 1985 as a young apprentice motorcycle mechanic, i purchased a starter tool set that honda themselves used to sell, all of $80 aussie dollarydoos at the time. Vessel hammers, kowa spanners and t bar sockets. I still have everything bar the wooden handled screwdrivers and its all still perfectly serviceable.
I’ve bought several of these in the past few years. Every time I bring one to a job someone always wants to buy it off me. They are far better than the ones you can get around here. The small button on the front is to change the settings without having to use your opposite hand. Nice feature.
I've bought a bunch of stuff in China and the quality can be much better than the hobby crap that HF etc. import, because actual factories use the stuff 24/7 and it has to work well. Eg. collets, live centers, keyless chucks, carbide tools and so on. They also have to compete against the top quality Japanese and European carbide inserts etc. that are sold more cheaply in China than elsewhere. A lot of the non-international brand junk that's sold here was made for half the price of the local quality product to pay for shipping, import costs and middleman markup. When you make something for half-price it ain't the best.
I own a construction company on a Caribbean island and our tools are constantly killed by the salt air. The only ones that stand up to the corrosive environment are actually, if you can believe it, are Porter Cable. You should take one of those apart and find out why.
I bought some nepros tools after seeing your reviews on them. Just got an email from their head of overseas operations asking me how I heard about them as they suddenly got tons of overseas orders! Good work.
The characters on the hall-effect sensor are most likely Chinese kanji. The Japanese language has 3 types of writing: katakana, hiragana, and kanji. Hiragana and katakana are only used in the Japanese language, whereas Kanji can be found in both Japanese and Chinese. There is no way to tell if it is Chinese or Japanese unless you speak the language (I don't).
This is why I imported me a HS631DZ, only circular I can find made outside of China proper. And that little push button above the trigger is probably a mode switch, toggle back & forth between two settings, so you don't have to keep playing with the control panel down below.
i have had the black TD171 from japan for a year now and she just loves a good hot supper. not as much pure power as the M18 GEN 3 impact driver but soo much more control and less bit wobble. important if you work deep in control cabinets but still need the power of 18v. Thankyou Ave for steering me to makita.
03:35 Japanese uses the same characters as Chinese, which they call Kanji. They also have a phonetic alphabet called Kana. The two are intermixed all the time. In principle, you can translate Kanji into any language, because the symbols don't correspond to words but to concepts (which is why China has the same written language for many different spoken languages), but the interspersing of Kana makes understanding actual Japanese words necessary. In this case, the characters just say purple, red, blue, yellow, white, and black. It's just the colors of the wires connected below.
I worked long ago at Suzuki, motorcycles assemble line. Everything for export, usually the big bikes, the line runs fast. But as soon the “for Japanese market” enter the line, its speed is reduced to 25%. It happened to assure a better quality and less problems during the assembly.
Its standard practice in Japan. Domestic market products are usually better quality and the next version as compared to what's being exported. Example will be Toto toilet. In Japan, most are using/buying the 7th gen whereas if you were to go to your local Toto dealer, the "newest" model will be the 5th or 6th gen.
that small switch is used to change between the different speed modes (1-4). Honestly why no one though to put the control there to begin with is mind boggling, its a one handed operation to change the speed and you can start with very controlled low impacts and shift it into turbo nut slapper mode with just one hand. Genuinely brilliant. I have two of this particular model in the same colour. One to use and one to admire lol.
The fact it has a fuse is a good sign that means it hopefully doesn't end up in the chuck it bucket. I don't know where you find any parts to fix anything in the chinesium stuff. It seem if you can find a part it's at least 50% of the cost of a new one.
An American car manufacturer ordered 1000 bearings from a Japanese manufacturer. The customer specified a failure rate of 0.3% When the parts shipment arrived at the customer there were two packets in the box. 997 perfect bearings and the three they had to specially manufacture with defects to satisfy the customer.
