Are Protestants Christians According to Catholics? (Second of Five Conversations) 

I think it was CS Lewis who once put forth the idea that the closer one gets to God in any of the branches, the closer one is to those of equal nearness in other branches. Its almost as if we are all attached to the same vine.

@@matthayes533 I think this also can happen even with other religions!

If CHRIST is The Way, The Truth and The Life and we are all (regardless of our tradition or experience) Exalt Him then we would be spending less time analyzing and criticizing each other.

I think that "Protestants" cease to be such when they stop protesting, and Catholics become such when they start. As eastern faith goes, Eastern churches are welcomed in to Catholicism with lots of fanfare and get to retain their rites and traditions. See the union of Brest and others for the 23 churches of the Catholic Church. To a lesser extent, but in a similar vein, Anglicans that have come into the Catholic Church have been allowed to retain their particular use, also SSPX that has a checkered history, was allowed back as the FSSP and get to continue the traditions of pre vatican II.

@@matthayes533 We are attached to the same vine! 🙂 But unfortunately the branches tend to look at each other and say "I'm closer to the tree than you are".

Why do you say it was 2018 that the scandals broke? It's been close to two decades (2002) since the scandals came to public light.

@@tintinismybelgian The Pitsburg grand jury report was what I was referring to, In my memory those are the only ones, as I was only I child in 2002. Sorry for the confusion

@@tintinismybelgian Google Carlo Viganò and Theodore McCarrick and so on

@@tintinismybelgian That's when I finally began to realize the Pope and Bishops cannot be trusted. I thank God I was at a conference and got to talk with Dr. David Anders of "Called to Communion". He told me became Catholic because of the Truth of the faith. He wasn't surprised by the corruption at all but rather surprised by the few bishops who are really holy men.

There have been many waves of misdeeds by the Catholic Church in the millennia of its existence. As a Catholic, I have been heartbroken each time. The occasion you mention is one of the waves I remember well. I too thought of leaving Catholicism. And I too heard Peter's rhetorical response to Christ. Where else could I go? I do not in any way condone the evil actions that members of my Church family have done. But I have not become Catholic because of them. I became Catholic because of the good things I have learned and seen, and because of the good things I know to be true. And because of the comfort I feel at Mass, because of the Presence of Christ. My heart tells me this is where I belong, and this is where I will stay. God bless my Protestant brothers and sisters in Christ.

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That’s mortal sin, you need to repent.

You should know it is a grave sin to attend heretical services (not my opinion, official catholic teaching). Do not commit sacrilege by receiving the Eucharist in a state of mortal sin. Get to confession.

@@mathieuconklin3146 By no means go worship God to a place where people disagree in matters that have nothing to do with the essential purpose of Christ's sacrifice. Makes absolutely no sense.

@@luisvargas9893 All sin is mortal.

You are a heretical priest, modernist, make yourself a pastor, we dont need priest like you. Protestants dont believe in the transubstantiation of the eucharist, deny the intercetion of Mary. Jésus is fondamental you take it or leave it... And im NOT a fanatic, just a catholic from France. Good bless you and i hope you will leave are church.

Pavan Musb Are the statements in Vatican II similar or the same as Vatican one on this issue as well as does anybody understand how to deal with the new decision on baptism and who is included and who is not

Pavano you are welcomed to find out more about the Church of England, despite some of the more fanatical responses you might read here.

As an Anglican, we feel very connected to our Roman siblings even though we have our differences. I always feel comfortable going to Catholic Mass and I hope you also feel comfortable attending our Eucharist ❤️

@@ACF1901 What you are saying is wrong and creating division from the evil one. Do you read the Bible? In heaven there is no denomination or particular Church but the worship and honor that belong to God (Jesus) who inhabited humanity to save all those who accept him and resurrection for their salvation. God Bless You!

Love your neighbors as you love yourself...there you have it !

I think in the future all of the churches will reconcile there differences and become one church again. I've learned a lot about Marry and the saints and it's different from what I heard as a child growing up in the Baptist church. So that has stuck with me, the priest role I'm still confused and the communion I'm still confused on. Purgatory is something I'm interested in learning about. But I think people need an open mind and I think we're gonna get there.

@@braxtonbearden835there is no purgatory. Indulgences are a farce. Rome says she’s the only way to Salvation. Repent and turn to God. extra Ecclesiam nulla salus

​@@braxtonbearden835 May we all be one some day! God bless

​@@braxtonbearden835 Both doctrines may be difficult for protestants to understand... But! Research about them, learn what they are and where they reside in the early Church. Patrístic is very important to understand certain doctrines I may be able to explain the eucharist but purgatory is a bit more complicated

Well Said.

This comment is pretty wholesome.

Jeremiah Alphonsus A bit of an unnecessary comment. I firmly believe in the authority and teachings of the Catholic Church, I accept all Catholic dogma and try as best as I can to display obedience to the Bishops. I settled on Catholicism because I am convinced that it’s true, whereas settling on a food has nothing to do with truth, but rather preference. And my comment was about respecting how respectful Matt is during these conversations. I don’t agree with Protestants on the points where they differ from Catholicism but I can nonetheless admire that he is making a genuine effort to learn about traditions other than his own. I also respect that he doesn’t immediately cave when he’s not convinced by our claims, but as a Catholic I pray that unity and agreement will occur. In the video they speak about comments like this...it doesn’t help anything

@@harrymoore9358 Again WELL SAID! I am in a similar position as a Catholic. I believe in the authority and tradition of the church and as a Christian these conversations are really interesting. Especially because its a Protestant and a Catholic talking about some theological similarities and differences between these two ideologies. So I find this content awesome. Many times I have viewed other protestant material and always walked away from it. But Matt just gets right into these discussions with a Catholic. LOVE IT!

Brendan McDonell Glad we both made it to where we believe home is, and it’s nice to see that many people can appreciate this kind of discussion which we see in the video. Prayer and dialogue is the only chance we have of ending these divisions

@@willemgloudemans1442 i'm not christain but imo thinking there isnt a god, or some form of higher power is redundant. the universe is FAR too complex for their not to be some ultimate form of order. now that said "god" could be an energy between all of us, or something we are not meant to understand. but in the end, i believe their HAS to be SOME form of "god".

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As one who totally gets the atheist point of view, here's my questions and what I'd have to say. One, if there is a divine creator/s would you want to know that, Him, Her, or They? If not, then there's nothing to bother with, if you do, then here's the next part. Second, if you could come to know and believe in a God/creator, would you be willing to work at getting to know Him, and His will and intention for your life, and then work to follow and obey Him in his way, and acknowledge and ask forgiveness when you don't, with the intention to change your ways, asking Him for help? If you would answer yes to both of those things, then all you have to do is say God, if you are real, will you help me know it, and ultimately know you? For me what I believe is what I've come to know. What I know is God loves you and wants relationship with you, and if your not sure about that, but would want to know if it's true, ask him for that also, in a leap of faith if you have to. A really good book by a once Atheist journalist for the Chicago Tribune if I tembef right, is "The Case for Christ," by Lee Strobel. My advice, if you take this journey, is that you understand it's a marathon not a sprint. At times you'll feel like it's a sprint, at other times you'll be camping out in need of aide. If your someone who operates If

I would also say, if you take the Christian journey and operate better in intellect and study with defined principals,. Look to a more Orthodox Church, my highest suggestion is the Catholic Church. However, if you're more into free spirit and emotional expression, than an evangelical, or non denominational is best. There's really a lot of inbetweens. As long as the bible is taught you can learn, but not all teaching is sound because of assumptions and interpretation. Honestly if you take the journey, just keep asking God to lead you where he wants you, if you get uncomfortable ask Him if it's something in you, or something in the church you're at, and whether to stay or Go, pray or speak up. I hate to say it, but all the church and theological diversity can be tough to navigate. Use your head, trust your gut, and never be afraid to talk with God, and ask for help. If that's a journey you come to that is.

That's great! Though it shouldn't matter how it makes you feel. It's great that you feel connected and balanced, but that is worrisome if that is the main reason you're catholic because as soon as you don't feel that way anymore, you will go to different churches until you feel connected again. The truth is objective no matter our feelings. Many saints went through long periods of feeling disconnected and kept strong in the faith despite that. God bless

@@mathieuconklin3146 thank you for your viewpoint! I had stopped attending mass but even then didn’t consider visiting Protestant churches. And wouldn’t consider switching either. I’m Catholic through good and bad times. I am older so this could be why I feel differently than when I was young.

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@@reynabellaloves God bless your decision. We're better with you among us.

Connected to what, and balanced in what way? The issue is whether we believe in Christ as our savior, John 3:16 et al.

Tumsifu yesu kristu!

Wangui Kariuki milele na milele Amina!!

Kumbe tuko wengi hapa!!!!

Tuko pamoja....I really enjoy these conversations

Why?

livepathsearching Because Catholic and Protestants believe in the same baptism. It has the same meaning. Therefore re-baptism or a new baptism is not needed for them

Thank you @Juan that is true

but if you want to become protestant after being catholic, you must do the protestant baptize...

@@livepathsearching5140 Because baptism iz considered a sacrament in the CC - all sacraments have to do something with grace - and that grace "works" beacuse God is behind it so as long as people use the correct formula (...in the name of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit) and water, that is a valid baptism.

Yeah I'm not sure all Catholics are as interesting as that Jeremy Holmes. 😉 He's just reaaaaaally good. Period.

​@@goofygrandlouis6296 I think that IS a very underestimating talk. There is a multitude of people that are so amazing in Catholic Church! And The history of The Saints are beautyful

The intro was a little weird because I've almost always heard it the other way around, i.e. Catholics aren't Christians in the eyes of Protestants.

It’s easy to believe that often times when it APPEARS that saints and Mary are being worshipped while jesus is just forgotten about. Not saying that’s true but when I first even heard about Catholics that’s what it looked like.

@@aidanmcwhirter2612 I first heard that's what Protestants are told about Catholics when I got to college. I told my friend "That's crazy! That's not true!" It would be like because you have a photo of your dead grandmother and talk to it sometimes as if it's her saying things like "I wish you were here. I could really use your advice." Doesn't mean you're worshipping the photo or believe it's actually her.

@@laurataylor8717 I know now that’s not what is actually believed but it was difficult when I first discovered Catholics in middle school.

@@aidanmcwhirter2612 I understand and didn't think that's what you believe. I was surprised to learn it's what some people believe and that's what is taught to Protestant children about Catholics. It isn't until they're older and meet people outside of their social circle that they learn not everything they were taught is true. We're all taught stuff we later find out needed a grain of salt. 😊

Bert E Filipino catholic here. And I agree with you friend :)

We do have to unite. Catholic Church was supposed to be and imply a "universal" Church to encompass all Christians.

We are not a religion we are in a personal relationship with christ..we are all brothers and sisters in christ..lest a man be born again..means turn from sin and lead a christ filled life..repent and be baptized ...

@@SG-tf1fx the catholic church is divinely inspired just as scripture is

@@crobeastness the bible is divinely inspired...the church is a building the people in it are the chruch

JackR168 as your brother seminarian, I second that! Praying for you as you deepen your Yes. God bless you dude! Ps- which seminary/diocese?

JackR168 if it’s to become a Novus ordo priest, you’re better off staying away.

Daniel Corso I’ll be going to Saint John Vianney college seminary in St. Paul! Diocese of Lafayette in Indiana!

You are the men going into the burning building... To save souls, God bless you. B

JackR168: Wow, you're from Diocese of Lafayette! I'm from that diocese too. I'm a parishioner in Lafayette (St. Lawrence). That's cool to find someone that watches this channel from my diocese. I wish you the best!

Oh wow. Anglican. You guys are the perfect example of owning and reconciling your history. Henry the Eighth was your version of the drunk uncle. He was a notorious figure in history due to his marital issues. However this doesn't mean Anglicans as a whole are bad people. I think it is quite the opposite. The one thing that Henry got right on was the issues of religion. So Anglicans were based on some really brilliant ideas. It is great that they tried to find a balance between Catholic and Protestant. It is even more great that they broke off from the pope, but they still retain a lot of the nice rituals from Catholics. Overall Anglicans form a really good and really well rounded group. They even have the King James Bible, which is awesome for English-speaking Christians. Lutherins are very similar, and they are another great group. The biggest difference is that they are based on Germany instead of England. I like Lutherinism a little bit better because Martin Luther is a more appealing founder. It is just a very tiny even hairsplitting preference. Both groups are awesome though. Both are two of my favorite Christian denominations.

We are worshipping under the same roof, it's called heaven.

See you in two months!

Man, if only he would leave us on the cliffhanger for a little less time.

🙏 decrement 😁

lol!! I’m not even Catholic but the Catholic Church is literally the central default church in the history of Christianity. The other branches were the ones that broke off

Beware of false teachings.

What?! Catholics may be a lot of things, but cult isn't one of them. They are so big and mainstream. They are the most mainstream group that Christianity has. There are other denominations that do give me cult vibes. They are Amish, Mennonite, Jehovahs Witness, Seventh Day Adventist, Christian Science and Mormon. Learning about them makes me appreciate Catholics so much more. They do have issues with tyranny, particularly during the Dark Ages and Protestant Reformation. However Catholics are unable to isolate followers from the mainstream society. They are the mainstream. So relativly speaking the potential tyranny of Catholics isn't that bad.

I agree! I feel like the popular protestants say we Catholics arent Christians. I admire him and gospel simplicity as they are not anti-Catholic even tho they are protestant.

You’re a universal? How? Catholic means universal but yet they believe in extra Ecclesiam nulla salus, there is no salvation outside the Roman church? Church is the buddy/people not the buildings/Rome institutions.

Thank you!

Sorry( but) love them but don't believe their doctrine read 1tim 4:1-2. .. Gal 1-1cc

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I love you too, from a coptic orthodox.

“Who forbids marriage and abstinence from foods that God created”…. That’s a Roman Catholic teaching.

Anyone who teaches that catholics are not christian is an antichrist.

Glenn Freiburger all Catholics are Christian, but not all Christians are Catholic

@@georgeibrahim7945 All christians are catholic. The term "catholic" applies to all who are truly christian. Not all who call themselves either are such.

Glenn Freiburger I want you to look at the story about our lady of Guadalupe

He doesn’t need your personal opinion he can decide for himself

Softballs thrown, without real challenges presented? You don't need to scream and spit, but questions that literally just about any Christian on the street could ask aren't very satisfying...

@@barelyprotestant5365 everyones gotta start somewhere, especially when Catholics and protestants basically speak a different language with the same words. Yeah, they were definitely softballs, but most protestants dont even talk to an informed catholic enough to have ever even played softball, so... it's a good start.

@@shananotz9920 that ignorance goes both ways; for instance, Romanists thinking that they have a monopoly on the word "Catholic". No. Romanism is not the entirety of the Church Catholic. As an Anglican, I am Catholic. I am simply not under the Papacy's thumb.

@@barelyprotestant5365 yeah ive heard Anglicans say that. Except Anglicanism is called Anglican because it wasn't universal it was.... Anglican. So I dont get it. Didnt they also have to change the name in the USA because Anglican is anglican and that was obvious in the name so in order to make it pretend to be universal it had to change its name?

@@barelyprotestant5365 I know that probably sounded snarky but I didnt mean it that way I just dont get it. The symbol of the papacy is the unifying point. I dont always like the stuff that comes out of heirarchy in an un-official-magisterium way these days, but to me, the authority of the magisterium as represented by the seat of peter is invaluable to the concept of christianity.

Did such teachings exist in Catholicism pre-Vatican II, and if they did, why do so many especially Latin Rite Catholics say otherwise?

I reckon you two should do something together. You might end up with some seriously bad jokes, but that would be refreshing :)

​@@fredharvey2720 Yes and No. Vatican II isn't a canonically binding council (it adds no new dogma); it takes existing dogma and repackages them in a way that a 21st century person can understand. So let's take the existing dogma and see if we can see how Vatican II arrives at their conclusions. 1) . God gives all innocent unbelievers (infideles negativi) sufficient grace to achieve eternal salvation. (This is a certain truth deduced from the goodness of God, scripture, and other dogmas). 2) Extra Esclisia nulla salus --outside the church there is no salvation Given (3) Not all innocent unbelievers are visibly members of the Church, we must find a way to reconcile this. The above text is one such way to do that, we say that all who are baptized are in effect 'catholic' but that they are invisibly ignorant of the entirety of the truth of the Church. However, If they become aware of their heresy/schism and still persist then they put their souls in danger of hellfire. To further expound this let's take another dogma of the faith: Baptism by water (Baptismus fluminis) is, since the promulgation of the Gospel, necessary for all men without exception, for salvation. Without a careful reading this would seem to exclude the unbaptized from salvation. But it need not, for it did not say the following: Baptism by water (Baptismus fluminis) is, since the promulgation of the Gospel, essential for all men without exception, for salvation. The distinction between necessary and essential is an important one. On a public road it is necessary to drive on the correct side of the road but it is not essential. (That is, you can, for a time, drive on the wrong side of the road). However, it is essential to have an engine in order to drive. (At no time can you transport yourself without a working engine, or without gas in certain cars ect.) Thus we can conclude: Necessary = cannot be avoided, while essential = integral to the commission of. A quick google of the difference will yield these results. Thus, Baptism by water (Baptismus fluminis), since the promulgation of the Gospel, cannot be avoided by any man, without exception, for salvation. This leaves open the possibility that salvation would be possible to those who did not avoid water baptism. (Like a Muslim for instance). We would still say they are baptized (perhaps they are at the moment of death 'baptized' by God himself although not by physical water; So that the primary mode, of which the verb is named is intrinsically linked to the effect, but their are alternatives that grant the same effect. ex: you could 'google' something on the bing search engine).

@@mordimerlives "Vatican II isn't a canonically binding council" The church teaches that Vatican II is ecumenical and binding regardless if did not add new dogma.

@@tysonguess My point wasn't to dismiss Vatican II. By 'canonically binding', I did not mean to reference the cannons of law, but the cannons of dogma. Recall the context. I was asked if the teachings (which I interpreted as dogmas) concerning the ecumenical nature were around pre-Vatican II. To prove that point beyond dispute I pointed to the fact that no dogmatic cannons were added to Vatican 2. Thus the bedrock of Vatican II's teaching must be a result of already established truths.

@Free Thinker doesn't that imply there is a deeper truth within the text? Or that it is meant to misguide the reader and there is no truth at all in the text?

To me you all are heretics lol.

What caused you to go back?

You're a revert to worshipping your queen of the universe mary.

Welcome back home. You must have had quite the journey.

Charlie: That's a really good & respectful comment!!! I'm sure Matt really appreciates it!

The Fathers are still undefeated. It amazes me how much they have contribute to conversions from the brightest minds in protestantism to the true Church; it's almost instantaneously for some of them like Francis Beckwith.. As cradle catholic, I was ignorant of all of this and now I am reading more and more from these guys... There are millions out there that still need to come home... As Acts 2:47 says, "Praising God, and having favour with all the people. And the Lord added to the church daily such as SHOULD BE SAVED."

Agreed. Don't forget Justin Martyr and the First Apology: "...For not as common bread and common drink do we receive these; but in like manner as Jesus Christ our Saviour, having been made flesh by the Word of God, had both flesh and blood for our salvation, so likewise have we been taught that the food which is blessed by the prayer of His word, and from which our blood and flesh by transmutation are nourished, is the Flesh and Blood of that Jesus who was made flesh.” - (First Apology, 66)

James Salerno respectfully and I’ve read both Greek and Latin founders, that our reading of John 6 is correct. Here I would differ with the fathers.

Protestants literally believe that everyone went nuts right after the apostles died and stayed that way for 1500 years till their prophet came along. It requires a belief that Jesus wasn't God or that He didn't start a real, living Church. Neither one of those ideas comports with scripture, which they say they've read.

@@Doug8521 - Amen, agree completely. I'm a convert, so I was raised believing much of the modern distortions, though (Thankfully) not the worst of the Anti-Catholic Bigotry. It amazes me that anyone could actually Read the Church Fathers (and not just some "Cherry picked" proof-texts) and have even the slightest doubt that they were all talking about The Catholic Church, and the same core dogma's She teaches today.... And yet, Clearly, people of "Good Will" can and do. Blows me away.... But "it is what it is".

I love him. I just discovered him and I’m in my early 30’s

As a protestant... I agree 100%

I know, I kept wanting to yell at them to eat it. I'm the cook of the family and it drives me nuts when people sit and wait for everyone to sit down while their food gets cold.

If I was there the food would be gone

I wanted to eat it for them.

Poor Jeremy looks like he may have been needing some

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To go from Reformed Baptist to Catholic screams huge deception. I normally wouldn't say something so cutting but it seems you're aware theologically of what you've done. Keep digging, and come back to Christianity.

Hmm. What do you mean, when you say “being part of the church” are you saying as a reformed baptist you weren’t part of the church?

@@andrewdoesapologetics What theologically has he done ?

Daniel was thrown to the den of lions for prayer to God. Does this mean that he risked death because he knew public prayer was mandatory for salvation or was he was publicly acknowledging God as supreme to set an example of the Way? Matthew 6:6, public prayer is not required for salvation. Therefore, the risk for following God does not mean the thing you are specifically practicing that could get you killed in the key to salvation.

@Andrew Elliott: Beware of the 200-300 assumptions brother. I believe Jorge followed his conscience, as Luther affirmed. He had his good reasons to do so. Was it deception? You do understand he could say the exact same of you, right? Only God looks into the heart and knows everything. And will judge accordingly. But I think we all should have an open mind and an open heart, like Matt and Dr. Jeremy here. It is edifying. And so we should be too. Not at the expense of truth, agreed. But for the sake of Love.

That is the whole truth, you hit the nail on the head.

Welcome to the Catholic Church.

If the Eucharist is the sacrifice of Christ re-presented then that means the Scriptures must be wrong when they say Christ's work is finished, presenting a sacrifice that doesn't need to be repeated. But if the Scriptures are correct it means the work of Christ is complete, and priests are no longer needed cf. Romans 6-7.

​@@trinidad17 There's only one Sacrifice. The Eucharist is not a new sacrifice, but the SAME sacrifice for eternity, present, for that very reason, in masses that happens anywhere, anytime. Jesus teaches in The Holy Supper an act that create real presence of flesh and blood of His crucifixion through ages, through centuries and centuries. So that's not ONLY memory and symbol of union, but memory and union in fact. Obey Jesus on that and you'll be part of the Body of Christ (the Church) literally, not only intellectually. Jesus are 100% human, 100% God. The Eucharist is whole Jesus, blood, body, soul (human nature) and divinity (god nature), while the mere revival in memory is half of His teaching and commandment. The priests do not makes new sacrifices, but, instead, in obedience to Jesus, they bring the only sacrifice to christians, so that they may remain with Him, sanctify themselves and be saved.

danmj2 read Rome Sweet Home. 😊

@@karatriolo3238 Thanks, I will have to check that out.

danmj2 But the hour is coming, and is now here, when the true worshipers will worship the Father in spirit and truth, for the Father is seeking such people to worship him. John 4:23

danmj2 thanks for your comment. You know, one of things that always stood out to me before I converted to Catholicism was the emphasis by Jesus and the apostles on communion in the early Church. Now as a priest offering the Eucharist I can really say that that centrality has endured to this day in Catholic worshiop.

@@frjohn413 I think that is what is starting to draw me in the most. Reading up and looking at the history of the early church, I dont think we were ever supposed to get away from that. Thanks Fr. John.

Oggie P I’d LOVE to see that! I think they’d both really enjoy meeting & speaking w one another.

Yes

Joseph Adongay That would be great.

Based

Corda Based and breadpilled

Yes.

AMEN!! The ONE and ONLY answer that matters!! Read Matthew 7:21!!!!

What matters is our relationship with God. Religion/Denomination is just a name

@@waekurojimolla9447 Religion is a broad category if anything, not a name. Just as Not all cultures nor religions are equal, compatible, nor desirable-- just as YHWH commands us not to worship false idols and that we are not to put 'gods' before Him, and Jesus warns us more than once that no man deceive us, and this particular topic illustrates why. Matt22Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness!’ 24Therefore everyone who hears these words of Mine and acts on them is like a wise man who built his house on the rock.…

@@waekurojimolla9447 thank you Dan ..AMEN

Don't discount yourself, you are always welcome to be a part of this, as it is for you.

Keep searching my friend, maybe it will allow you to learn the true nature of God. I know a lot of people who don't believe in God, and they're highly intelligent for it, because the god they don't believe in truly doesn't exist. I pray that He reveals His truth to you in ways that allow you to know who He really is...home is a great place to be!

Zelkova 👏🏻🥰

@@abcoh4440 well its good that you enjoy it and listen to these. Its a much more productive use of your time than 90% of athiests who just comment to bash the videos.

From another British brother, I hope you attend a Traditional Latin Mass one day. God Bless !

You converted to Islam or were you born a muslim?

Why do Anglo Saxon people always state the color of their skin as one of the first things?

Best route to the truth is reading Scripture, not relying on human opinions and prejudices. I was guilty of reading other people’s opinion about Scripture more than reading Scripture. Apostle Paul said all scripture is God breathed, or inspired. God gave us the Bible through humans writing it.

I agree. I think that when a lot of non-Christians look at the Christian world, what they see is a lot of division, contradiction, and confusion... which is why Jesus prayed that the Apostles & all who follow them would be unified as one, so that the world would know that it is from God.

This is the main reason why I converted to Catholicism as well (from non-denominational Christian). In the face of moral relativism, we as a Church need to be more unified in our stance, and the Catholic Church has a fighting chance as the church founded by Christ.

Yup

Well said

William Gibson you should watch videos of Scott Hahn, Jimmy Akin, Tim Staples or Steve Ray. These guys were former protestants but now Catholic and I find the best Catholics are former protestants who have so much love for our Lord and Saviour.

Yes, but more important than outer appearances is the appearance we have towards God, and it doesn't do any benefit to pay lip service to the Apostles and the Gospel while adding things that neither the Apostles or Christ taught. Which is what happens in the official Roman Catholic doctrine (like thesaurus meritorum, insuficiency of the work Christ, etc), that is disregarding the unofficial pronouncements of their current Pope which are all over the place, and also happens a lot in many Evangelical circles (prosperity heresy, word of faith, sabellianism, cheap grace, etc). So keep good relations with everyone when possible, but if actually following Christ is a scandal to outsiders, so be it, but not for our own selfish reasons or to try to appease the current culture by denying Christ.

@@trinidad17 well said

​@@georgeibrahim7945 That seems to disprove Catholicism, that the best Catholics have to be Protestants first, that they have to be saved outside the Catholic church first...

God bless you, William. For us Catholics you're a dear brother in Christ.

Frank Pugliese this needs to happen

If matt will let him speak

zorbo77 I find Matt Fradd incredibly humble, he frequently talks about his own struggles and shortcomings. it seems evident he really wants to share the Catholic faith

Not Matt Frad, Jimmy Akin, please

Trent Horn wouldn't let him get away with some stuff he said..for sure...Trent would kill him softly and with a smile 🤗😀

"In the West, many theologians tend to be lawyers whereas in the East it is otherwise." So in the east many theologians end up being lawyers? Interesting

Hey, what did you find as the difference between their understandings of typology? I thought they were similar?

Joseph Graham , for example the marian dogmas were a stumbling block for me. I was used to requiring scripture to explicitly say this or that. When I gained a knowledge of what typology is and how it is applied it changed everything. Research ark of the covenant in the OT being a type of Mary as an ark in the NT. You will find some awesome scripture in Luke that ties her the OT. That is one example. Mary as the new Eve is another.

@@zachbrauks5584 Thanks Zach, I've already come across this type; and it is a wonderful one, yet the ever virgin Mary is in the Lutheran confessions and Mary as our mother the church, who held all creation in the humanity of the Christ-child, that her body was taken away like the ark and Moses... these teachings don't seem to me to address the issues of Hus, Luther, Chemnitz or the others of that tradition. That being said, I still hope for reconciliation (the gospel, from my current understanding of the 'lutheran' tradition) and am blessed by the richness of our ancient Christian tradition being revealed to me by Roman and Eastern Theologians.

Disunity for sure. Probably depends on your immediate locality, but my experience has not been encouraging.

Joseph Graham , the LCMS did teach of a Virgin birth but not necessarily ever virgin. The LCMS also does not believe in Mary’s immaculate conception or her being sinless her entire life. For myself this is where the ark type helped. The ark was made of the finest materials and was not to be touched by sin. If this is true for the OT ark and we believe that Mary is the NT ark, then these verses in Luke help us to see how the early fathers may have come to this understanding biblically.

@@Bibleindepth Jesus established a Church and a religion.

There are not a "gazillion" splinters in the Protestant church. Most churches allow you to take communion with each other for example. That is how the Roman Church identifies "full communion" therefore there are NOT 30,000 denominations.

Disciples don't protest. They abide and obey.

Luke 22:31-32 "Simon, Simon, behold, Satan has demanded permission to sift you like wheat; but I have prayed for you that your faith may not fail. And when you have turned again, strengthen your brothers.” Satan has always attacked the Church, but will not defeat the Church that Jesus formed through Peter and the apostles.

Born and raised Catholic, but attended a Lutheran service with the in-laws. Said to my wife "Do they realize they are basically Catholics?" lol

We (confessional Lutherans)are the true church that Christ founded. The RCC went astray centuries ago. Luther kept what he found in Catholic worship that did not lead to sin. Luther rejected what he found to be unBiblical such as joining a monastery to earn salvation.

@@markhorton3994 Luther also had a accident that left him not well, mentally. This brain trauma affected him greatly. Im saying that respectfully.

"Basically Catholics"? No, Lutherans (and Anglicans) aren't "basically" Catholics; we are. We aren't part of the Papal Communion; in fact, we were both kicked out and relentlessly attacked. So yes, we Anglicans and Lutherans are Catholics. We aren't Romanists.

I don’t think the “basically Catholics” comment was meant with disrespect. Having been to both it’s just striking, when raised Catholic, to attend a Lutheran service and note how liturgically similar they are

The church is not a building it's the people...the problem with Catholic teachings is that they teach purgatory, praying to saints and Mary and repentance through a priest which is not biblical. That's why in the dark ages they took advantage of the church and perverted the truth and would kill and torture anyone who was against their false teachings.

"...and the Bible came to us through the Church." The primacy of Scripture is seen in 2Tim 3:16- All Scripture is inspired by God... and in the words of Jesus that "Heaven and earth will pass away, but My words will not pass away." Mark 13:31. You're right that Jesus did establish the church and that He used human instruments to communicate His inspired Word, but we are subservient to it, not it to us or the church.

@@felipebarron3479 I'd encourage you to look more deeply into the things that you said were "false teachings". I would suggest websites such as catholic answers. God bless.

@@alyssasloneker5126 I'm an ex catholic no need to, already done that

@@felipebarron3479 if catholic doesn't exist your church is never exist. It's true. Catholic canon the bibble you read now.

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Yes i am pretty sure the Christian world is mlre unified then in the past like in 1204 or in the 30 years war.

I would love to see Matt on Pints with Aquinas.

Trent Horn is looking for people to talk to

True RightRight Trent Horn actually more a person of dogmatic and deep systematical dialogue, this to clear the common misunderstanding most often given by those people inquiring in good will, just like Matt of this channel who are sincerely hope to have good and deep discussion about the Catholic faith. Trent Horn is not a debater but an excellent dialogue partner. Matt Fradd is another excellent option maybe in conjunction with his channel pint with Aquinas

And I think that Trent Horn's dialogue is trying to seek "What is true?" which is an answer to Matt's question about unity. We may be closer to being unified, but when we search to believe only in the things that are true, there can really only be one right answer. So when debating an issue over Protestant viewpoints vs Catholic doctrine, I feel like only one of them can be the "right" one because the other contradicts it. And as we've read so many conversion stories in the past, how can the Catholic church be right on so many other things, but wrong on a few?

I appreciate it, and you won't have to wait long.

@@MattWhitmanTMBH Hi Matt, I hope you're well. Do you have any recommendations for introductory books on early church history and the Great Schism?

@@MattWhitmanTMBH Yay! I can't wait! Dr. Holmes was a very dear professor of mine in college (I had him 4 times), and your discussion really brought me back to my Theology 101 and 201 classes with him. Knowing him as well as I do, he is well-seasoned in answering the type of questions that you asked - I remember us hashing out a lot of questions like that in class with him, and he wasn't fazed by any of it. Thank you so much for picking him to interview.

As a libertarian Catholic Amen

@@joelancon7231 The Catholic principle of subsidiarity doesn't contradict there being moral universals...thoughts?

Even America has a Supreme Court. Your neighbors can't just execute judgment based on gossip and opinion, even if it is based on their private interpretation of the constitution and laws. We call that lynching.

The Reaction You say “even America” as if the US is some libertarian paradise. The most radical of libertarians, myself included, do not believe in a Supreme Court, instead favoring a private law society. Not to say that this is an argument against Catholicism-just a clarification.

@@riogrande1840 Private law rulings are not appropriate for setting precedents for everyone to expect to be applied in every case. When absolute standards are at issue, there must be an authority.

Steven Velez side note- the first three traditions you mention all fall under Protestantism

Diana Janna I mean.. duh. What does that prove? The Church is the believers. Romans 14 acknowledges that we’d have disagreements but to live in peace. That’s such a weak argument.

Absolutely true..It will be Christianity...

You are absolutely right if. Christ is your lord and savior and you accept him as so..that is what is important

No. Cults are not brothers and sister in christ. Are Mormons Christians, Jehovah's Witnesses, Seventh day adventist ect? Salvation matters. Believing the trinity and knowing Jesus deity isn't enough. Its also what and how he did it. I dont mean to be condemning. Im telling you out of care and decernment. It matters. 😔🙏

I think the reason protestants tend to be wary of the church's "authority" is due to the fact that the church has proven to be majorly wrong on a lot of things throughout history. Also, I would argue that protestants aren't "independent" in our interpretations but that we rely on God's guidance and read scripture for ourselves rather than blindly following what the church tells us.

stuffofme xx I got a notification saying you had replied but can't see it for some reason. Did you delete it? The notification said: "Dolan Tremp Hello, thank you for your reply. The challange is that it is not easy or simple to decern God's guidence. As the video mentioned, protastants are able to distance/ divorce themselves fr..." (gets cut off here). Unfortunately I can't really gather much from this but I'm interested in hearing the rest of what you had to say. I certainly don't disagree with you that it can be difficult to discern God's guidance, but without knowing where you were going with that, I don't really know how to respond. I genuinely enjoy having conversations about this kind of stuff though so hope I'll hear from you again.

@@dolantremp So sorry, yes I deleted it because I am actually trying be a more quite person as my tendancy is to talk too much. I basiclly wrote about decernment, retaining responsibility for communal historical sins and failures and the dangers and errors associated with relying on independent judgement. Sorry for the inconvenience that I may have caused you. God bless you.

@@stuffofmexx6077 Fair enough. I can definitely see both sides of it but just wanted to share how I see things. It wasn't really an inconvenience, just slightly confusing. I don't think there's anything wrong with talking a lot if there is a conversation to be had but ultimately that's your decision so no worries.

@@dolantremp When Adam and Eve ate of the tree, they thought they could judge right from wrong on their own authority, the way God does. And they were afraid and ashamed of their nakedness and got kicked out and forced to work and die. Christ came to restore our inheritance and call us back to it. Really sad if after all that you want to keep fumbling around in the darkness.

What I hear from that is, redemption actually happened in the upper room before the crucifixion. I must be misunderstanding, somehow?

@@christophekeating21 Actually, I think a theologian would say our Redemption began at the Incarnation.

@@MNskins11 Redemption comes through the whole work of Christ, from the incarnation, through his perfect life, his being offered as a ransom and a propitiation for sins on the cross, (as the Passover Lamb) and his Resurrection and Ascension to glory in Heaven. But it was when he was on the cross that he said "it is accomplished." Not the night before on Thursday.

@@christophekeating21 I think you may want to look into that "it is accomplished" verse a little farther. You just admitted that the Resurrection was apart of the Redemptive work of Christ. So I don't think "it is finished(accomplished) refers to our Redemption being completed. Just sayin

@@MNskins11 I'm sure I'm using terms incorrectly in some way. The Resurrection of Jesus is essential. It is part of the Gospel according to 1 Corinthians 15 and Jesus'Resurrection is the firstfruits of the Resurrection of the dead which will happen at the end of time when creation is restored. But what do you think "It is finished/accomplished" means?