A Protestant Asks a Catholic Theologian About Mary (Third of Five Conversations) 

Food may be cold but the conversation is hott!

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Well, when you get Dr. Holmes talking on this subject, trust me, that's not at all hard to do. I know from experience (I had him for theology for 2 years in college, and I've known him for a little over 9).

Was it a potluck or......

....and a Mormon walk outs..

Wow! That was beautiful!

Unless you love her more than you love Jesus. Then it is idolatry.

@@calebnelson7179 you see, that's a huge misunderstanding. Mary is great because she gave birth to Jesus. So, it doesn't make sense if you love Mary more than you love Jesus. As a Catholic, you would love Mary because she had the greatest privilege of all. No one has had the blessing to give birth to the Creator. No one has carried Jesus in her arms. No one cared for him, kissed him, and even spoke to him for 33 years. If I had a minute with Jesus in this life I would be incredibly blessed. She had that opportunity for so long. Believe me, to love Mary is to actually recognize what God did with her. It is to call her blessed because the Almighty has done great things for her. Holy is his Name!

caleb nelson We love Jesus more but we could say the same if you love your wife or mom more than it is idolatry, if you love anything or anyone more than God is idolatry.

@@RGTomoenage11 you're exactly right.

Yep, but i worry about that only half of us can inherit the kingdom of God, and there is only one way

Its a good concern. Just love even when you don't think they love you

@@oscarwong4201 it will be the side that chooses not to be judgmental jerks. They can come from all different Christian denomination.

@@tazmom0 Oh, hi Kim! So I take it those who prefer to tell the truth from the bible are "judgemental jerks", right?

@@kevinrtres you are telling YOUR truth from the King James version of the Bible. Other Christian denominations have different Bibles. Personally, I think most Evangelicals have a very distorted, self serving way of thinking. You seem to think you can say "Hallelujah, I am saved!" on Sunday, sin like crazy all week and think you are good to go to Heaven. Sorry bro, but that is ludicrous. Heaven is EARNED by accepting Jesus, following in his footsteps and asking for forgiveness when necessary. I don't need a Bible of any kind to figure that out.

LOL! I have to tell my bible study group about this!

Amen Sister !!!

A catholic and amen!

@@pop3stealth97 you are deceived

@@jothePianoMaster13 you people always say that, and you THINK you have proof, but the actual truth is that non-Catholic Christians really don’t understand Catholic teaching. They are very deceived, and if they take just 10 mins to ask a Catholic what they believe, they will see how far they have been led astray from the truth of Catholicism. How do I know? I was raised Baptist, converted to the Catholic Church five years ago.

LOVE this comment bro, keep up the good work mario

My toughts exactly, i love the peasefull way of explaining and listen to each other. Realy inspiring ✝️☦💖

I’m Protestant, but y’all are awesome too. Love from you Christian brother!

See, this is what One Body of Christ means. We Christians may be divided in beliefs but we profess one faith. God bless us and may He guide us all. Praise the Lord our God!

@@SoldierJackson77 The body of Christ is broken due to our sins, but we're still united by His blood. Praise the Lord!

One of my college roommates followed that path. And now I have a family in my church that left Islam and then Catholicism to become Protestants. Funny thing, life.

@@BM-si2ei Sure is. God bless.

@@Jordan-1999 Protestant for 44 years, was a very active apologist and lay philosopher. Then one day, my wife asked me a question about the Catholic church, which sent me into a 5 year journey culminating with myself and my family entering the Catholic Church.

@@tysonguess Wow 44 years is a long time. I've only been a Christian for just over 3 years. But around January this year, was when I started to seriously look into Catholicism. Before that the church I went to taught that the Catholic Church was bad, and for most of my Protestant life I felt resentment towards the Catholic Church. Let's just say that the church I attended wasn't fond of Catholicism. But now I realise most of the reasons why they didn't like Catholicism was due to misunderstanding what Catholics actually believe and what they actually teach. God bless.

@@Jordan-1999 I experienced hostility as well. Even just by asking questions at times. I've thought alot about it and I think it comes down to this: The legitimacy of Protestantism depends upon the Catholic church being false whereas a Catholic is taught that Protestants are saved, they just don't have the whole truth. So Catholicism doesn't depend upon Protestantism being false but Protestants inherently seem to understand that Protestantism depends upon the Catholic church being false. ....and yeah. I did not have one correct belief about what the Catholic Church taught. My head was filled with all the common caricatures of the Catholic church most Protestants have in their minds.

Keep seeking the truth brother. See Dr. Scott Hahn or Dr. Brant Petrie for some clarity on what Catholics actually believe.

You're almost home!

Not to sway but Lutherans are pretty cool 😉

Our fathers worshiped on this mountain, but you Jews say that the place where one must worship is in Jerusalem.” So you need a church building.? No.! Sprint

Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. [6] He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it.

But too be honest, the protestant wasn't really bringing the protestant perspective into the discussion.

The Catholic Church is the oldest and largest criminal organization on this planet... quite a few Protestant religions followed her criminal acts such as Colonialism, Forced conversions, promoting/supporting Wars, Politics, Teaching lies as doctrines,etc etc...they will be dealt a massive blow in the coming great tribulation..(Revelation 17 &18)...😑

I like your spirit, but why do Christians always feel the need to "be nice"? The truth is going to separate people, and theology matters, that's why the reformation happened in the first place. I love my Catholic brothers and sisters, but any man made belief system that goes against God's word, in MULTIPLE ways isn't for me. I'll stick with my KJV!

AMEN.

@@RobertGarcia-wb4hy in what ways?

I still don't get it. Why do people pray to Mary as intercessor?

@The Lesser Confessor the Bible says thou shalt have no other Gods before me, correct? Youre saying I should pray to Mary? I'll follow God's word, thank you, you can keep the Catholic idolatry.

@@RobertGarcia-wb4hy Catholics dont consider Mother Mary as God. Its just like your friend asking you to pray for him/her. We pray to God and we ask Mother Mary to pray for us too.

@@RobertGarcia-wb4hy Correct we said you should pray to Mary. NOT WORSHIP her. The problem is one of language. Why do you think praying is the same as worshiping? Who taught you that false teaching and why do you follow false prophets?

Monisha Nickolas Mary isn’t praying for you, she’s busy in heaven worshipping Jesus.

Welcome home! 😊

Change back

Converted in 94

So you have abandoned trusting God's word, and started trusting an institution.

@@Mr.Truxton Which institution determined which books would go in the Bible? Go read the Fathers, please.

Yes chiara, she is called blessed among women. The RCC unfortunately allows the practise of veneration, intercession, prayers to mary which are forms of communication. She is neither omnipresent nor divine. This is taking it to the level of worship. We pray to ONE GOD AND SAVIOUR!

​@@fabiotuan5206 Catholics don't believe her to be omnipresent nor divine. Intercession of the saints in heaven works the same way intercession of the saints of earth does. She doesn't need to be divine because she doesn't answer any prayer by her own power, it's still God who does it. . We're not going to summon them with black magic nor try to find a medium, nor any other strange thing some Protestants like to imagine. This is what is wrong with talking to the ones who passed away: summoning strange spiritual forces instead of trusting God, but we're asking through God. We just believe the communion of saints which make us all part of the same body as long as we're on Christ (Rom 12,5) doesn't end with death (Rom 8,38-39). Death has no power on us, we treat the ones on heaven as the ones who live. She doesn't need to be omnipresent either, because people on heaven knows what happens on earth (Lk 15,7-10) (Rev 6,10) and they carry our prayers to God (Rev 5,8). Also, I do think the Bible makes a clear disctintion between veneration and adoration. The angels sent to Sodom (Gn 19,1), Elisha (2 K 2,15) and Daniel (Dn 2,46) were venerated because of their link to God, it becomes a problem only when there's adoration (Acts 10,25-26), (Rev 19,10).

Welcome home ❤️✝️✝️✝️

That was my same experience ☺️ Welcome home!!

U are blessed . The Real Presence of Jesus Christ in the Sacrament of the Eucharist

Queen of heaven? Don't you think that it remembers the cananite cult of Astaroth? Reina del Cielo, no crees tú que eso nos recuerda el culto caananita a Astarote? Creo que decirle a la bienaventurada Maria "Reina del Cielo" es demasiado.

Josué Inhan no

@@josueinhan8436 creo que quizo decir Reina de los Ángeles..no del cielo. De todas maneras si Jesus es el Rey quien más podría ser la Reina? Salvando siempre las diferencias de que Jesús es 100% divino y 100% hombre y María más allá de la Inmaculada concepción es 100% ser humano..aunque Llena de Gracia..cosa que ningún ser humano ha vivido

Read Revelations 12:1-5.

@@josueinhan8436Soy católico. Reina del Cielo porque es reina madre, igual que en las madres de los monarcas judíos en el libro de los Reyes. Nunca queremos decir que sea consorte de Dios, igual a Él en poder ni nada por el estilo, ¡eso sería herejía!

Actually I think they’re waffle fries

SAME

They’re getting cold after these months

i'm afraid the food has gone bad now ..

@@wesleyrice8350 They are

The Assumed Queen Mother Inamorata Evry roman military encampment since 365 BCE has had an infimary called the valetudenaria. By this time, apprenticeship in medicine was already instituted. Young physicians run OJT training and were called Medicus Ordinaii and wer paid minimum wage salary. The physician doing rounds in jerusalem at the time of jesus and mary was a young apprentice named LUKE- the gospel writer. It was early advent of autopsies but medical charts during autopsies was already done on government sanctioned deaths of criminals. As infant and crude as it was, Luke declared jesus dead when water ran with blood during the heart strike of d centurion. He witnessed jesus disappear from d tomb in calcutta and did mention dis in his report. It was a medical anomaly. Dr. Luke also looked after the mother of Jesus christ - Mary. She died of natural causes, but due to family history, dr. luke knew she wud resurrect as well. And he was right thus his conversion and utmost belief in the mother and son partnership in heaven. Hence his investigation of the fading miraculous show-ups of the mother and son figures. This made him paint the Virgin masterpiece which was by this time now saintly hallowed on the head by virtue of post-death ascension as depicted in the vatican walls dating back to 1st century AD. The image is now the ultimate defense in the historicity of mother mary's heavenly veto power.

As a Catholic, I also think ecumenism is the way... Division is nothing but the work of Satan. The purpose of Christianity is to bind people... Btw, I truly think the West is having a hard time because it is too divided. "The individual is the ultimate minority."

We must pursue together in the common faith! The Bible is God Breathed, God is three in one, Jesus is God incarnate and lived a sinless life, Jesus died on the cross with and for our sins, Jesus resurrected three days after his death, Jesus ascended to the right hand of God, Jesus will return again for the believers, and if we believe into him and repent we are saved! These 8 truths are what we need to come together on. We need to quit our bickering about the doctrines and practices we participate in. Eph 4:13 “until we arrive at the oneness of the faith...”

ALL should agree with that as fundamental.

Careful. Theology matters. I like your spirit of brotherly love, but theology matters. The Catholic church repeatedly goes contrary to God's word. In so many places. The bible is the authority for me, not religious tradition.

@@RobertGarcia-wb4hy Luther beat you to the punch on that.

Congratulations from a fellow convert! May Mary lead you ever closer to the Sacred Heart of her Son.

Awesome

Revelation 18:4 literally talks about Roman Catholicism, I want you to open your goddamn eyes and know the truth and that verse and try to understand that

@@Watermelon-dj8be Babylon is code for Rome. Not Catholicism...lol. Silly Anticatholic. Smh

@@MNskins11 Roman Catholicism comes from Vatican and who worships Mary ?? Roman Catholics worship Mary who’s a sinner

This book is excellent, and for a second, it sounded like Dr. Jeremy was pulling directly from that when made the connections between the Wedding Feast of Cana, the Crucifixion, and Revelation 12.

@@josephcollier1028 could also be "Hail, holy queen" by Scott Hahn, no ?

Quidam there is some good root information about Christianity and what Jewish communality have. But many typology and verses taking out of context also. I read the book by Brant Pitre with my bible open. God Bless!

Yes a very useful book with great biblical insights

Thanks!

@@MattWhitmanTMBH Dude Catholicism is Christianity Mixed with Paganism, It's disgusting, Altho they believe in trinity as well, they do rituals, pray to saints/mary, Call another Man/Human "Father" , they have the demonic heretic pope, the vatican = wicked, rosary = Useless/Not biblical, Hahaha they make me laugh, they are a joke, They aint Real Christians, Holy Bible (Never uses the word Catholic)

@@MattWhitmanTMBH Answer me dude, I don't even claim a denomination, I AM Christian , A Christ Follower, Without rituals, I grew up going to a Baptist Church & Pentecostal & A Spanish church (Not sure what denomination) I agree w/ Evangelical David Lynn , "I am a Christian"

@@jesussaveslives512 how could he answer if you haven't asked the question?

@@jesussaveslives512 how would you not know the doctrinal distinctives of the Spanish church you attended? Sounds hokey. Don't you get taught in Sunday school?

I agree, but at the end of the day she is still a human being she cannot hear you're prayers . The only mediator between man and God is Jesus christ

Not just foresaw but provided a way for Emanuel to physically enter into this world through a clean grace filled vessel---via The Immaculate Conception.

God used a lot of women and men but he is the only way to the father praying to a man or woman is idol worship.

Catholics don't pray 'to' saints but speak to them (trusting that God will allow them to hear) to ask them to pray for us. Much like many people of faith or not will speak to their departed loved ones.

Solagratia I agree with all but for the part that she cannot hear your prayers. Saints are more alive than we are and they take our prayers before the throne of God as shown in revelation.

Ave Maria gratia plena ora pro nobis

Mary has no divine character to be worshiped Jesus does

@@charbelsakr8107 Who said to worship her..??

The bible says we already have an intercessor for us, and that is Jesus. Nothing says to pray to Mary or saints. Theres also the subject of praying to statues and material objects.

@@ANISHALBS Prayer is worship

Bingo!

You are right my brother!

Amen 🔔

Mary has no divine character Jesus does

@@charbelsakr8107 haha....i think you mean "nature", not "character". And yes, Catholics believe only Jesus has a divine nature.

Well said.

@SkillsDND Weak Catholics become Protestants. Strong Protestants become Catholics. We know where you fall.

P. Doetsch Your pride in that statement is actually disgusting. 🙄 You need to pray for humility.

@@Becca_Lynn It's not my statement, it's a well known saying. Judge not less ye be judged is also a well known statement from Christ. Yes, humility is a great virtue, and you need plenty more of it, Becca.

@@p.doetsch6209 Dude you're funny. Look who's talking. You accuse her of judging, then you turn around and do the very thing you accuse her of.

God bless you and your family, Justin!

Congrats! I'm in RCIA too. Just be careful because lots people might be negative towards you, even family.

Welcome home Justin, God bless you and your family.

@SkillsDND Well, the most atheist and antireligious century, the 20st century, did pretty well when it comes to war...

@SkillsDND Or your rule on earth.

@SkillsDND Maybe just a 7 day war, a miracle is what you seek?

@SkillsDND Please tell me how Israel is still a nation, as God said it would be in the bible? Surrounded by those that love God. You can start by ruling yourself. If you believe this life is not a war between you, and yourself, you are mistaken.

Your love is not agape love. Would you like to try and love someone more than yourself?

@NightHawkInLight so cool to see you in the comment section on a couple of recent videos here. Your videos helped me with my highschool science projects, and I’m so glad to know you’re a brother in Christ. The peace of Christ be with you!

So interesting to see you here! I love your channel and had no idea you were a man of faith as well. God bless you, cheers

And yet, Jesus stirred up the Pharisees so much that they killed Him. And the apostles swirled the whole world and got themselves killed as well. Soooo yea, context.

@@ElficGuy Yep, those things sure happened. However, I don't think that was because Jesus and the apostles were given to quarreling. Sometimes seeking peace and loving your enemies gets you killed.

@@Nighthawkinlight Jesus liked to pick fights with the Farisees, no doubt.

Peace out! Take care.

Yes you have a point with evangelical Christians coming on hard in differences to prove they are right. But consider that while it is great to go over where we agree, we still have to have a conversation on what scripture says where we are not on agreement because it is all important. While we both can’t be right, Baptism, Salvation, sacraments & Mary we need to with Bible open address these according to God’s word. We can do this with love & respect for each other.

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I. WANT. THAT. Actually, scratch that I. NEED. THAT. please, not very close to the mic tho, I hate the sound of chewing.

@@graciouscompetentdwarfrabbit chicken wing ASMR

That’s not prejudice against Mary. At least, I wouldn’t assume that. Rather, it’s that to plumb the depths of who Jesus Christ IS, who the Father IS, and who the Holy Spirit IS, overshadows all else, just as young Mary was overshadowed by the Godhead. We know Mary is the Proverbs 31 woman. And - your church may be unusual. I have heard SERIOUS teaching on Mary - preached from the Bible at a pulpit. In fact, to understand the Bible is a lifetime pursuit and study therein shines beautiful light upon Mary. I think Mariology, in fact, cheapens her a great deal. Or, I should say, it does her profound disservice.

@@KristiLEvans1 while I'm glad to hear you have heard serious teaching about Mary- I wish that has been the case at my Presbyterian churches I was raised in- I think it's an error to say Mariology detracts from a closeness to God in some way. In fact, I think that's the underlying source of one of the biggest divides between Catholics/Orthodox/Anglo-Catholics and most Protestants: that a lot of the times Protestant theology almost frames there to be a competition between God and His creation. That is false. Yes, our God is a jealous God. But the communion of saints *are* the Body of Christ. We don't detract from our love of Jesus by paying attention to them. It's the opposite. Our love of God is *amplified* by honoring and marvelling at them, and Mary is no exception.

James Cannon i didn’t say Mariology detracts from the closeness of God. Mariology does a grave disservice to Mary.

@@KristiLEvans1 interesting.. I mean it truly is a personal, individual thing though isn't it? Marian devotion is not something any Christian (Roman Catholics included) is *required* to partake in. Things like the Rosary are very much private devotions. I certainly think the way that some in the church have hyper-focused on Mary's virginity has historically been weaponised against women in contexts that have had some disastrous, painful consequences, so I'm not totally disagreeing that the way she has been viewed in the hearts of Christians as a whole has always been beneficial or fruitful.

Not to worship Mary we have to worship only to the son of God he who God was please him only Jesus Christ He is Alpha and omega Mary we believe only the mother of Jesus on earth but we never worship her all the Christianity only to Jesus Christ we have to praise and worship Him

Gospel Simplicity watches this channel too?! I love your videos man!

Phil I’m a long time fan of Matt’s work. Interesting story, the day I first met with an Orthodox priest to discuss theology and was introduced to the world of the church fathers was the day Matt’s first video on EO came out. I got the alert sitting in the parking lot. My channel is indebted to his in many ways, and if people only had one subscribe to give out, I’d point them his way before mine. Thanks for the kind words about the channel. I’m so glad you’re enjoying it. God bless!

Love your channel btw!

@@GospelSimplicity i enjoyed your channel too. Thank you for your attitude ! We need more of you out there.

That's true! I too was raised catholic but now hold a protestant view.

@@fabiotuan5206 What exactly changed your mind ? Respectfully asking...

You may not know it yet, but you’re a Catholic. ;) Welcome home! I was a Catholic for a while before I knew it, and it was a difficult journey to get that knowledge from my head to my heart but it was so, so worth it! I will pray for you on your journey. Your words here were beautiful!

*The Protestant Problem :* Mary was formally separated from Protestant worship and prayer in the 16th century; in the 20th century the divorce is complete. Even the singing of the 'Magnificat' caused the Puritans to have scruples, and if they gave up the Apostles' Creed, it was not only because of the offensive adjective 'Catholic', but also because of the mention of the Virgin . . . [But] Calvin, like Luther and Zwingli, taught the perpetual virginity of Mary. The early Reformers even applied, though with some reticence, the title Theotokos to Mary . . . Calvin called on his followers to venerate and praise her as the teacher who instructs them in her Son's commands. {J.A. Ross MacKenzie (Protestant), in Stacpoole, Alberic, ed., Mary's Place in Christian Dialogue, Wilton, Conn.: Morehouse-Barlow, 1982, pp.35-6}

Well said

Destynation Q Mariology is not Biblical. Mariology was founded in the 3rd C. AD. It’s a different foundational belief system from Sola Scriptura.

If you have a connection with Mary, I suggest praying the rosary. It's not as scary or boring or whatever as it sounds. It's life changing. The rosary is a meditation on the life and suffering of Jesus through the eyes of his mother (you actually touched on a lot of the mysteries of the rosary in the Scripture you mentioned). As you pray, you meditate on the event, the scripture, what it must have felt like, etc. Praying the rosary has changed my life. I have never felt closer to or more loved by Jesus. Blessings on your journey! If you're interested, the RU-vid channel Many Hail Marys at a Time is really amazing

No, because luke-acts was written during the first century and Marian dogma did not exist in the church at that point, they were still considered a sect of Judaism. There's also no evidence in the text that John is talking about Mary as the Ark in Revelation, because the earthly Ark and Tabernacle was a replica of the heavenly.

@@dandeliontea7 Marian devotion was developed before the Gospel of John and Revelation because John refers to her as "Woman" harking back to Genesis chapter 3. In Revelation Chapter 11:19 and Chapter 12 Mary is described as the Ark of the Covenant. This isn't isolated as Luke Chapter 2 describes Mary going to the hill country in a similar manner at David sent the Ark to the hill country before taking it to Jerusalem. Then after the Birth of Jesus, Mary took him to Jerusalem. The parallels are too many and would not have to be told otherwise. Both Luke and John saw her as the Ark of the New Covenant.

@@deaconken3752 no, it wasn't. Marian devotion was not part of 1st century Christianity, in fact the epistles make no mention of her and Acts also.

@@deaconken3752 there is literally nothing in Revelation 11 and 12 that describes Mary as the Ark, it's two different visions given to John.

Also Mary didn't remain a virgin for life, she did the horizontal tango with Joseph and had other children.

Laurie Barron Wasn't it on streaming TV, 'Peaky Blinders'? 🤣

Not that I've heard at least, and I've known him for over 9 years. The college he works at has it's own channel, though.

I just now discovered that he does have a Twitter, though. Google his name and it will come up.

I'm not up on the twitter 😅, but thanks though!

I'm surprised it took them so long to eat their waffle fries - they're the best fries in that town! But, knowing Dr. Holes personally, I'm also not surprised one bit. (Also, Matt said in response to someone else that he cut out most of it because of the sound in the mics, so that also explains it.)

Why is it necessary to spend time loving, honoring, devoting, and respecting her though? Your thoughts should be on Jesus alone. Loving Mary will not advance God’s kingdom, loving Jesus will.

@@Becca_Lynn That work ld make sense if the focus was on Mary but as Catholics we understand Mary has one goal and one goal only to draw everyone closer to her son.

@@fabiotuan5206 I didn't say she is God or imply that. Neither did I say she is omnipresent or divine. I am just pointing out why Catholics consider her important. Catholics do not believe her to be God or divine or omnipresent. They give her importance as she is the Mother of Christ, the Son of God. She is Blessed. And yes truly all worship, praise and glory is for God Almighty. Not sure why you would think I meant otherwise.

God bless!

And to her spouse, the Holy Spirit🔥

The rosary is such a powerful prayer, I love It! 🌹📿

So do you pray TO her?

@@MrsYoung-in9ov In my personal prayer, no. Or, if I think about her from time to time it's more like sympathy, thinking that she would have known this herself. You see, I am quite knew to the idea. Sometimes I might even say or think: Mary (or St. N.N.), what would you say to this, how would you act? Can I ask you to pray for me - like I would ask a friend? In the rosary it's the known request "Hail Mary - Jesus who ... - pray for us".

@@MrsYoung-in9ov Mary is there so why not pray to her?

@@gustavmahler1466 I think he was more so having an issue with the language because for me as a Catholic from birth, I can say I pray to Mary or to a saint without it sounding wrong to me because I have internalized the nuances, which a new convert may not internalize: within Catholic practice we don't literally pray to Mary or to saints because prayer is only meant for God instead we pray with Mary and the Saints not to them. We ask Mary and the Saints to accompany us in prayer and intercede on our behalf, which is to speak to God with us or for us because they are in his presence, and since we internalize this we may just say we pray to Mary or pray to the saints.

I know it’s been 2 years but if you think catholic theology is sound you should check out the Orthodox Church.

Coming in the comments 2 years late haha I'm a Christian and fall under Protestantism by default. Been researching many parts of Catholic theology. Would be interested to ask you some questions - especially about what you mean by "fullness of grace and the spirit."

Queen of Heaven, yes?

There is no queen mother in the kingdom of God. Mary is never referred to as such. She is a sister in Christ and part of the bride of Christ.

@igor lopes The 'rules' apply in a very narrow way. Messianic prophecies apply to Him via His geneology, kinsmen redeemer, ruling from the throne of David etc...But Gods first plan for Israel was not a monarchy, but rather a theocracy. The people rejected their God and wanted a king like the other nations. They got what they asked for, including all the failings of a monarchy. So in the kingdom of heaven, the 'rules' of the Davidic kingdom do not apply because now we don't get a vote. Its a theocracy. And there is no queen in Gods theocracy.

Thankyouuuu finally someone who understands.

@igor lopes Jesus' lineage is through David so sure i have no problem with that. But there is no monarchy in heaven. Its a theocracy. There is no queen in heaven. Mary is one of us, part of the bride. Not the queen.

If you’re honestly interested in seeing how one comes to the Catholic mindset, I recommend Rome Sweet Home and Hail Holy Queen by Dr. Scott Hahn. He was a Presbyterian seminary professor and minister who converted. Those books were instrumental in my own conversion. He’s a concise, skilled writer. They aren’t long, and you’ll come away having a pretty thorough understanding.

Wait, how would the Catholic position be the one that doesn't make sense? Protestants just popped up 16 centuries in and threw away most Christian doctrines in favor of a radical (and looking back, naive) view that scripture is totally clear (perspicuity of scripture, sola scriptura) and the Christian doesn't need an authority to hold us to orthodoxy. Well, considering how quickly that crumbled into tens of thousands of little churches making it up as they go along, I'd say that didn't work out too well. I was born and raised Protestant but two of my sibling and I converted to Catholic for similar reasons.

As a cradle Catholic I can understand the notion of not understanding the other side. To me many Protestant faiths seem to be of much simpler doctrine, but I have noticed those doctrine tend to be at least very lacking, and at worst in error. I know a lot of Protestants reject tradition, but without it the early Christian would have never been able to grow, and the church would have died with the apostles. Remember that there was no bible until the 5th century, and it was the Catholic church that assembled it.

Garth Vader In fact, to liberally paraphrase Benedict XVI, all forms of revelation - from current rabbinic Judaism to Byzantine Christianity (Orthodoxy), Protestantism to Islam, to the more recent scripture cults, what they all offer is a form of 'reduced' Catholicism. Just chew on that thought and it will 'make sense'. And Catholicism in spite of all reforms and fads, has stubborned retained its 'Traditions'. 😆 Weird, no?

@Courtney Schroeder Courtney, It is understandable. However we can't apply human ways to God's actions. First, it is revealed truth that through Eve all humans born of a woman inherit original sin. Mary, however, is exempted from all sin by God's fullness of grace granted to Her alone in order for the Son of God not to, even indirectly, be stained by the sin of Adam, inherited by humans, for which all must be baptized. As you know God is all powerful and He, in His sovereignty, can grant any grace He pleases. Therefore HE DOES IT in the case of the Virgin Mary when God said He will put ENMITY between satan and the woman. What woman? DEFINITELY NOT EVE! Eve sinned by saying NO to God. Who could it be? IT CAN ONLY BE MARY! Mary said YES to God and she was clearly called "FULL OF GRACE" BY GOD, through the Angel. Therefore, God is Mary's savior because He created her free of all sin, or full of grace. How does the Old Testament reveals her involvement in bringing about our future salvation? ▪︎ISAIAH 7:14 14 Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign. Behold A VIRGIN shall conceive, and bear a son, and his name shall be called IMMANUEL. (Immanuel = God with us) It is well established that for God to dwell anywhere, such place must be of absolute purity. NO SIN can touch Him, therefore Mary will be revealed totally pure by God through the words of His Angel in: ▪︎LUKE 1:28 28 And the angel being come in, said unto her: HAIL, FULL OF GRACE, the Lord is with thee: blessed art thou among women. Furthermore, Mary is the spouse of the Holy Spirit because the SHEKINAH, impregnated her: ▪︎LUKE 1:34-35 34 And Mary said to the angel, “How can this be, since I HAVE NO HUSBAND?” 35 And the angel said to her, "THE HOLY SPIRIT will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will OVERSHADOW YOU; therefore the child to be born of you will be called holy, the "Son of God". •The term "overshadow" used by the Angel Gabriel at Luke 1:35 describes the SHEKINAH or the glory-cloud that also rests upon the Ark of the Covenant, as read in: ▪︎EXODUS:40:34'35 34 Then THE CLOUD COVERED THE TENT of meeting, and the glory of the Lord filled the tabernacle. 35 AND MOSES WAS NOT ABLE TO ENTER THE TENT of meeting, because THE CLOUD ABODE UPON IT, and the glory of the Lord filled the tabernacle. In the following passage we read how it is impossible for any human to be where God has dwelled, as in the case of Mary's womb. ▪︎EZEKIEL 44:2-3 2 The Lord said to me: This gate shall remain shut; it shall not be opened, and no one shall enter by it; for the Lord, the God of Israel, has entered by it; therefore it shall remain shut. 3 Only the prince, because he is a prince, may sit in it to eat food before the Lord; he shall enter by way of the vestibule of the gate, and shall go out by the same way. Therefore, Mary's virginity and her remaining absolutely pure forever happens only because God the Son dwelled in her womb, becoming Mother of God, according to the Holy Spirit, as revealed in: ▪︎LUKE 1:41-43 41. And when Elizabeth heard the greeting of Mary, the babe leaped in her womb; and ELIZABETH WAS FILLED WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT 42. and she exclaimed with a loud cry, “Blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb! 43. And why is this granted me, that THE MOTHER OF MY LORD should come to me? Therefore, Mary could never be born with a sin that could be passed on to Jesus, her all-pure son, who is also Son of God and where the shekinah, the glory-cloud rests upon Mary, the all pure Ark of the New Covenant. May God bless your discernment.

@Maurizio Sinisi Maurizio, You couldn't have said it any better. Well said!

I like my Baptist background. Though I do have some Lutheran views as well.

@Jorge Roque. I would like to suggest that you investigate what the Early Church believed in, the history of the bible and the Church from neutral, credible sources. Look into Catholic doctrines from official Catholic sources- not what Protestants think Catholics believe but what Catholics really believe. The truth will set you free.

@@jeremiahong248 I think I expressed myself incorrectly. I was Baptist until I could not fight anymore against the evidence. I am in full communion with The Church now, I am Catholic.

@@BikeRideTherapy God bless you and keep you !

The main attraction in catholism is the mass. A priest ( sinner) calling down the Holy of Holy's into literal form, imagine that what arrogance. All true believers have the Holy Spirit. Is Jesus and the Holy Spirit different ? Talk about contradictions. Then again this is just another part of the already distorted theology of the RCC . God Bless the reformation!

... i was nearly reporting this channel to uTube ... because the hadnt posted the 3rd episode. Total disgrace , and i hope we are not kept in suspense for so long until the next one 😂😂

@@pboyle3723 Well, I hope it's before spring, because otherwise I will have to ask Dr. Holmes to fill me in on the rest. The first of these was posted at the end of January, so I hope Matt doesn't make this one stretch out for an entire year.

I cut around all the bites I could because of the unbearably loud crunching.

Hahahhahahahahahha yes

The Ten Minute Bible Hour Behold, this 'Doubting Thomas'... Until I see... him touch... them wings... 🕊🤣

@@MattWhitmanTMBH So that's why it looks like you never eat your waffle fries, the best fries in town!

@@MattWhitmanTMBH Hello Matt ! I am a convert to the Catholic faith. I would like to share with you what is the thing about Mary: Catholics honour Mother Mary because 1. She is the Mother of Jesus, our Lord and deserves our respect. 2. Her role in our salvation is foretold in Genesis 3:15 when God told the Devil And I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; he will crush your head, and you will strike his heel." She is the only human being whom God has chosen for His plan to save the fallen human race - Jesus has to be born as a Man to have a lasting binding New Covenant with God as all other Covenants were broken. To be born as a man, Jesus needs to be born of a woman. Mary is obedient to God and said yes. She didn't ask for God's plan. I would and how shall my life be impacted. Who will take care of me when I grow old. Mary trusted God but a sword pierced her heart Luke 2:35 when Jesus was crucified. She gave Jesus his human DNA. So whilst Jesus did the saving, Mary was instrumental in out salvation. If Mary didn't said yes, and some other woman did, then we will honour this other woman none the lesser. 3. As Jesus is the King of Kings, Mother Mary is the Queen Mother. Just as Bathsheba interceded for the king's subjects in 1 Kings 2:19 When Bathsheba went to King Solomon to speak to him for Adonijah, the king stood up to meet her, bowed down to her and sat down on his throne. He had a throne brought for the king's mother, and she sat down at his right hand. Mother Mary Mary intercedes for all of us. Reference the Wedding at CanaJohn 2 : 1 to 12 when Christ performed His first miracle, even though He initially said it wasnt His time yet. Mother Mary didn't tell Jesus what to do but directs the servants to Jesus, just as she directs us now to Jesus. The focus and glory is always in Jesus. Intercession proves that the final decision and call still lies with God and Mary is not a deity. 4. God killed Uzzah in 2 Sam 6:6 to 7 for touching the Ark of the Old Covenant : When they came to the threshing floor of Nakon, Uzzah reached out and took hold of the ark of God, because the oxen stumbled. The Lord’s anger burned against Uzzah because of his irreverent act; therefore God struck him down, and he died there beside the ark of God. Despite doing a good deed by stabilising a falling Ark, Uzzah was deemed unworthy and to have defile the Ark. The Ark of the old Covenant carried the Word of God in stone. Mother Mary carried the Word of God in flesh. She is thus sinless as she had to carried the Living Word of God in her womb for 9 months. Uzzah was struck dead by a mere touch. What's more 9 months of pregnancy? Thus we honour Mother Mary for carrying the Living Word of God. The sacredness and holiness of the Old Ark was evident by Uzzah's slaying, what's more the New Ark which is carrying Jesus. 5. Jesus the King of Kings bestowed Queenship on His mother Rev 12 :1 A great sign appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet and a crown of twelve stars on her head. This woman is Mary because she is in heaven where God is. The only human being God will allow Queenship in heaven is Jesus's mother - the Queen Mother of the King of Kings. This woman is not the Church as some Protestants claim because in subsequent verses.Rev 12 : 2 to 5 this woman gave birth to a son which will rule all nations and whom the devil wanted to harm but couldn't. The only human that can stand up to the devil is Jesus. REV 12 : 2 to 5 And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered. And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads. And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born. And she brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne 6. We honour Mother Mary because we are grateful to her for saying Yes to God, when she was still an unmarried woman but had to bear Jesus, thereby being instrumental in the human race's salvation. 7. We honour Mother Mary because she was obedient to God and is our model of ideal discipleship. She didn't ask for God's detail operation plan, what's going to happen to her when she is found pregnant in old conservative Jewish society, how to answer to Joseph when he found out she is pregnant before their marriage, how is Mary going to live on financially if Joseph divorce her, what role is her son going to undertake etc. Nothing. No details needed. No assurances needed. Just a simple yes to God. And God is pleased with faithful disciples just as He is pleased with Abraham for his faithfulness. For these reasons, Mother Mary deserves our honour - just as how the Early Church honours her for 1500 years till the Reformation. The Orthodox Christians who broke away from the Catholic Church honours Mother Mary. Martin Luther, the Father of the Protestant Reformation loves Mother Mary, honours her and prays the rosary. The veneration of Mary is inscribed in the very depths of the human heart. (Sermon, September 1, 1522). [She is the] highest woman and the noblest gem in Christianity after Christ. ..She is nobility, wisdom, and holiness personified. We can never honor her enough. Still honor and praise must be given to her in such a way as to injure neither Christ nor the Scriptures. (Sermon, Christmas, 1531). No woman is like you. You are more than Eve or Sarah, blessed above all nobility, wisdom, and sanctity. (Sermon, Feast of the Visitation. 1537). One should honor Mary as she herself wished and as she expressed it in the Magnificat. She praised God for his deeds. How then can we praise her? The true honor of Mary is the honor of God, the praise of God's grace.. .Mary is nothing for the sake of herself, but for the sake of Christ...Mary does not wish that we come to her, but through her to God. (Explanation of the Magnificat, 1521). Luther goes even further, and gives the Blessed Virgin the exalted position of "Spiritual Mother" for Christians, much the same as in Catholic piety: It is the consolation and the superabundant goodness of God, that man is able to exult in such a treasure. Mary is his true Mother, Christ is his brother. God is his father. (Sermon. Christmas, 1522) Mary is the Mother of Jesus and the Mother of all of us even though it was Christ alone who reposed on her knees...If he is ours, we ought to be in his situation; there where he is, we ought also to be and all that he has ought to be ours, and his mother is also our mother. (Sermon, Christmas, 1529). Catholics honour Mother Mary but we also believed that Christ is still the only mediator with God. Christ and Christ alone.

capacitance-rca1981 Are you equating the activities with Royal Spanish soldiers with what the religious missions do? With the rest of what you wrote, you appear to be clinging on to a particular (biased?) point of view. One needs to be charitable on this channel, or take your trolling elsewhere.

@capacitance-rca1981 Respect Spain and the american conquest you can read about the origin and formulation of the human rights in this historical context, centuries before the French Enlightment. The fathers of the " ius gentium", the concept of "just war" and the intermational human rights are not atheist frenchmen rather spanish catholic theologians of the "School of Salamanca" during 16th century: Dominicans and jesuits like Francisco de Vitoria, Francisco Suarez, Gines de Sepúlveda, Gabriel Vázquez, Domingo de Soto or Luis de Molina (better known for the molinism). They were also the creators of the modern economics theory, centuries before Adam Smith (read the works of Azpilicueta, Vitoria, Molina, Luis de Alcalá, Diego de Covarrubias or Tomás de Mercado). Human Rights as a modern social principle is a creation, a patrimony and a legacy of Christianity (not from any other religion or philosophical tradition)

For the Catholic to sort of nod in agreement to the protestants statement here, was in my opinion a missed opportunity to correct the newly found protestant idea that somehow Mary did something wrong and Jesus was dismissing her. I truly wish protestants would learn to read the Bible as the early Church has always read it, as one story and not an isolated chapter or verse here and there.

Yes I was a Protestant my entire life until this Easter. I never heard that Mary didn’t want to go in and hear His sermon. Interesting way of interpreting the scriptures. I disagree of course because I’m now Catholic.

They both were kind & respectful.

you should see Ravi Zacharias' talks as well...absolutely great man & speaker

@@royalbirb2090 yes he was. I will miss his humble voice and wisdom.

@@royalbirb2090 Ravi is one who I call my mentor. He lived by Christ and now he lives with Christ, how blessed.

Why?

@@royalbirb2090 this comment didn't age well lol

Did you watch the other 2 videos? It's not a bias, per se. It's a set of assumptions that both groups have. He isn't saying that you need a Catholic bias to understand the answer, he is saying the mentalities that Catholics or Protestants have lead to the questions that the other groups wouldn't think of. It's perspectivess not biases. If you grew up in a rain forest you would never ask the question "Why don't we ever get rain?" if you grew up in the desert this may be a daily question. The answer isn't biased, the question just starts from a diffirent upbringing.

@@douglasward718 Ok. Cool! I'll look it up! Thanks!

@@douglasward718 ??? Really? And I missed that? Do you have a link?