Are Slavic Languages Similar? | Polish Bulgarian Comparison | Guess a City 

Шановний @Ecolinguist , мені дуже подобається ваш канал. Він допомагає спілкуванню між народами, допомагає дізнатися один про одного багато нового і цікавого. Але нажаль, ваш канал використовують кремлівські тролі, мета яких посварити нас, залишаючи в коментарях провокаційні політичні повідомлення та брехню. Будь ласка, припиняйте такі спроби. Дякую.

@@MrBruvis Moderuję komentarze jak tylko mogę, żeby nie było obraźliwych komentarzy. Jeśli zobaczysz jakiś trolowski komentarz to śmiało zgłaszaj.

Tý jseš od Pána našeho nám na zemi poslán !! Je vidět že je Tvoje dílo Bohu našemu libo👍👍🇧🇬🇲🇰❤🇵🇱🇨🇿🇷🇺......

Зачем вам вот эти все ж и ш? Ржека висла

AlexVinta *Agree Съгласен*

I was surprised myself.😲 I think keeping it within one topic helps. 🤠

Тhe root sounds of about half the words were similar, so as bulgarian I feel confident, that if told to me slowly I could understand them

@@pegasBaO23 Yes. Speaking slowly helps a lot. :)

Lol no??Man when russians come on holidays in Bulgaria we have to speak english to understand each other (if you haven't studied russian).And these guys understood each other almost fine.It's not even close to be the most distant slavic languge.

The pronounciation is extremely different. Look at the polish word for wall - "sciana" and how it sounds. In bulgarian it is стена оr "stena". The words look similar but Pavel couldn't guess it.

I thought exactly the same.

It was quite challenging when he puts 2-3-4 words I'm not familiar with.. all in one sentence 😅

There were like 3 or 4 words I could understand and that s all

@MDTWN MDTWN and it produces 80 or 90% of the worlds rose oil used to make perfumes

Със сигурност поне половината от коментарите под това видео са наши (написани от българи), включително твоя😏 Но беше интересно видеото. Мен също ми хареса, че той позна всичко🇧🇬

I've had listened to Slovenian in the past and if I remember correctly, I would understand it more than the Polish. But yes, I agree. It's amazing:)

Here I am polish person living in Slovenia and speaking Slovene intermediate level . I’d say now I can understand Bulgarian, basically most of what Pavel said . It’s really surprising how learning just one more Slavic language opened me a way to understanding so many more of them !

@@annaPolonia Indeed

@@annaPolonia Yes it is fantastic ! If you know any of southslavs language you can easily understand almost all slavs !! :)

You would be the translator :) This guy hasn't studied Russian which used to be mandatory in Bulgaria, otherwise he would understand 90% :)

Dzięki! Pozdrawiam! 🤠

аз също съм бгггг поздрави

Сърдечни поздрави от България!😃

🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇵🇱🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬❤❤❤❤❤ Slavic brothers

Поздраві. = Pozdrawiam po Polsku

Miło mi słyszeć, że oglądanie moich filmów przynosi efekty. 🤗

@@Ecolinguist жаль что этот эффект, не очень распространяется на письмо. Тут уже помогает google.) Но большое спасибо за ваши видео.

Польское письмо это ад.

@@Pro-ou2df потому что в латинском алфавите нет столько шипящих, сколько в польском языке, поэтому в их словах такое нагромождение букв и всяких чёрточек в этих буквах. Кирилица - лучший алфавит для славянских языков, поскольку разрабатывался с учётом их фонетики

@@user-hx1kw4mc9t вы чертовски правы

Благодаря

Я русский и всё понял без перевода)

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@Botond Badovszky Éljen a magyar-lengyel barátság :) From Poland with love ❤️

Köszönöm szépen! :)

Thank you, man. We in Bulgaria always considered Hungary as a great country.

@@JohnSmith-gh9lw Yep, Hungary is pretty cool 👍 Добра бира, добри хора 🍺

@@KasiaB Polak, Wegier dwa bratanki i do szabli, i do szklanki! :) ;)

what is the left flag in your avatar?

@@q0w1e2r3t4y5 Romanian but it is horizontal

@@samonekide4051 Oh. I'd be all in for a Central European 'Empire'. A very much extended V4 Union. Thanks for the reply.

Slavic Soldier dont believe you, if you havent studying a west slavic lang. Then its almost inpossible understand Polish without looking at the subtitles, they have totally different pronuncation than serbian

Slavic Soldier Pozdrav brate!

No rasism but bulgarian is jusy better

I am a Bulgarian and I think it is very inappropriate to make such categorizations between languages that are so similar and both derived from the same source. It would be just as inappropriate to say that about somebody’s kids. I am sorry but I don’t agree with you.

@@ke2delight Нали знаеш че при Българския всичко което се пише се чете! И нямаме меки звуци! :)

It's not that easy in School. Hehe

@@roatskm2337 Нямате в шопско и затова в цяла България се подиграват на шопите, че говорят развален български, ама вие си знаете своето.

😂It must have been a very interesting experience for you. 😂

what got me the most when Norbert struggled to describe a wall was when he used the Polish word for China, when it has a completely different term in Bulgarian - Китай - that's more synonymous with the Ukrainian and Russian term so the Great Wall description completely went over Pavel's head 😂😂

@@wayfaringspacepoet amateaurs

:D

How that difference happened?

@@bojanbojic9230 that's because there are some differencies in time unit names. "Godzina" is "hour" in Polish and Ukrainian, but its root "god" refers to "year" in Bulgarian and Russian. Then Norbert asked "5 godzin or 5 lat?", but the word "lat" refers to the "year" too, so i'm not surprised that Pavel didn't get it well.

It was a bit challenging 🙈

@@WatchmanofMKDN what Macedonians? lmaooo

@@WatchmanofMKDN Putin is president, not historian sooo yeah😀

I am sorry to be the one informing you that during the creation of the alphabet the location was not referred to as Macedonia. I am sorry that Serbian communists have done so much damage.

@@WatchmanofMKDN братче недей така! Църковно славянският знаеш че е старобългарски!

If you known another language, you are really close to another culture. I wish I knew that from younger ages. We are kinda lucky there are people from other countries we might talk to without learning a new language.

Да. Странното е, че по-често разговаряме с англичани, французи, японци и хора от къде ли не, отколкото със съседите си.

@@KanasAudan така е! А усилието да научиш сръбски, руски или особено хърватски е толкова по-малко в сравнение с езиците, които всъщност учим... Тъжно е. Аз самата си поставям за цел да започна да уча самостоятелно хърватски :)

​@@denipeneva Хърватският език не е ли на практика почти еднакъв със сръбския и босненския език? Само разликата е че при хърватския и босненския език се пише само на латиница, а пък в сръбския го има варианта и на кирилица и на латиница.

@Catch_Me_If_You_Can This is same to tell Russians are 100% percent slavs. Bulgarians may mixed with slavs in the past but and came from Central Asia but we have similar languages, culture. Also we gave birth to the Cyrillic to other countries for example Russia.

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Лажни пријатељи.

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Вот и болгарский непонятно... Хотя по контексту вроде можно понять Бях, это по русски был? Или говорил?

@@alexandershaldybin6018 BG-Бях, EN-I was, RU- был

@@alexandershaldybin6018 Аз бях в Русия Аз съм бил в Русия. Това са 2 различни минали времена

Страхотни звучит как страшные, но значит абсолютно другое)

Какой ты русский, я тебя не понимаю.

@Евгений Я думал о мясе каждый раз он это выговаривал

Bulgarian and Russian share about 80% of the vocabulary, but the grammar is quite different - Bulgarian has no grammar cases. This makes it easy for Bulgarians to understand Russian and also makes it almost impossible for the Russians to understand Bulgarian. Also, it makes it hard for the Bulgarians to speak Russian. When I speak to my Russian friends in the US - they speak Russian and I speak English. It’s very funny

@@George-nc4kv no they do not. you have no idea what you are talking about. Polish is closer to Russian

@@George-nc4kv Bulgarians understand Russians because they studied Russian. If they did, no Bulgarian understands it. People age 30 or below in Bulgaria do not understand Russian even one bit

Thanks for the comment! I was actually surprised how successful our communication was despite the linguistic distance. I think having the context clear from the stat was a great help. 🤓

The reason might be that Pavel had not known any Polish before, so was was probably unfamiliar with 'ć/ci', which *can be* confused though *is not* equivalent to 'ч' ('cz' in Polish). Polish 'Ć' is the result of evolution of palatalized 't', just as 'rz' (now phonologically merged with 'ż' / 'ж') is the result of evolution of palatalized 'r'. So, instead of hearing something resembling 'стяна' he might have heard 'счяна'

The issue is Polish pronunciation - the language must have undergone additional palatalizations, so sometimes both languages have the same cognate word but in Polish the pronunciation has changed to a point where it is difficult to understand. When you see it written out is much easier - for example I could never understand when he says in Polish "zvjezh" but when I saw it is written zwierz, then it is obviously the same like Bulgarian "zver/zvyar". :) Same with Ściana - it is pronounced "shchyana" which is too difficult to guess from the original Slavic *steana.

@@georgimihov2690 Yes. Pronunciation usually is the key in understanding other languages. 🤓

@@georgimihov2690 Oh yes, we've turned palatalization into an art form that even our other Slavic fellows may have a hard time mastering. :) Many a Polish child had to spend long hours at a speech therapist office having their ś sz szcz si ć cz corrected with electric shocks. Just kidding... but only a little. ;)

The magic of languages! 🤠

I'm glad to hear you got to practice your Bulgarian today. Happy learning! 🤓

Много се радвам, че има чужденци, които намират българския език и култура за интересни. Поздрави и успех :)

Understanding most of it without subtitles is a pretty decent achievement! Congrats :)

Polish has phonetic changes like more - morze (rz is read like Ж in Bulgarian), reka - rzeka, also S, C, Z (с, ц, з) in front of I have become palatalized and pronounced like шь, чь, жь, also where Bulgarian has Ъ (pronounced close to Polish Y), Polish has ą (on) and ę (en). Because of them it is the most difficult to understand for Bulgarians (if they haven't studied another Slavic language).

Харесва ми че има чужденци които се опитват да научат Българският език. Поздрави от България!

Frisian is the closest language to english (not counting scottish, welsh, irish etc. variations of english). You may listen to it on youtube and then write here how well was the understanding. I think it would be interesting for us to know about your experience being a native english speaker. But i suppose the mutual intellegibility between english and frisian is nowhere near as it actually is in case of two slavic languages.

Антон Иршутов Fantastic. Thanks Anton. 👍

You may understand some Dutch and Friesian

Have you ever tried to talk to a Dutch person like that? 🤓

@@Ecolinguist Even though historically, we came from the same language, we are not intelligible... I guess it's because English is such a mix of languages in terms of vocabulary... I'm sure we can understand each other's swearing, though. :-) Thanks for your video... it's really interesting.

Только не кем (ким, kim), а чем (чим, czym) был разделен Берлин.

Dzięki za klaryfikację w kwestii Chin. Nie miałem pojęcia, że tym słowem wprowadziłem więcej zamieszania. 😂

В українській мові також є слова "мур" i "замурувати" (останнє також є і в російській)

В Словении тоже: Kitajska

Я понимала всё. Я живу в Болгарии😂-Родилась в Болгарии

Λουκάσ SRB my best friend is polish and in our community we have a lot of Serbs, he seems to understand almost everything they say, like word for word...he’s even had times he’s conversed with older Serbian people,

@@BudgetGainsByJJ cool :D :]

haha 😂Bardzo dobry układ!

так само і в мене

That is the third Slavic language I'm learning . After Polish and Czech.

@@aleksandrsl4328 нихуя не понял твой комментарий, но очень интересно.

@@aleksandrsl4328 What does Navalnyj have to do with anything on this channel? Nobody cares if you dislike him, this is about languages :DD

😂😂😂😂

Е á де 😅

Mura е от италиански. И значи стена, в смисъл крепостна, Китайска, Берлинска, от такъв тип. Не стените на къщата или стаята.

Ее само българи ле

Ей развалиха я тая държава бе

Cieszę się, że się podoba!

Any time, Marcel! 😉

Two birds with one stone 😁

Probably you don't have a Polish verb "kafelkować" (кафельковать) in Russian, but you have in Russian synonym for "kafelkować" (in Polish: "kłaść kafle albo płytki" i.e. in Russian: "класть кафель или плитку" :)

French has "mur", but I didn't know that the word is in any Slavic language. But I did recognize "śćiana" as "стена".

@Pierre Abbat Generally in Polish: "ściana" means any type of wall (also geometric wall) and "mur" is used only as "brick wall" or "stone wall".

@Pierre Abbat Le polonais et le français ont beaucoup plus de points communs qu'il n'y paraît ;) Le «ę» polonais correspond (approximativement) au «in» français et le «ą» correspond (approximativement) au «on». En effet, parmi les langues européennes modernes, à part le français, il n' y a que le polonais et le portugais qui con­naissent les voyelles nasales :)

As far as I know, the verb муровать came to Russian from Polish.

Я сначала подумал ,что это ты написал на русском ,просто не грамотно 😃😃

А хотите переведу : «Когда поляки говорят понятно и имеют хорошее произношение я понимаю почти всё за исключение некоторых слов» .

@@igorpodgorny236 Ihor, Вие сте до голяма степен точен с превода си, но вместо "я понимаю" е по-правилно да се използва "можно понять" или може би дори и "разумеется", което звучи по-близо до българското "се разбира", но не съм сигурен дали би било точен превод в руското си значение. :)

@@user-gm9nc8pk3k так болгарский это и есть то, как иностранцы говорят по-русски) Типичные ошибки иностранцев-неверные предлоги, существительные не склоняются для удобства.

Our languages have very similar vocabulary

Bulgarian is the ONLY Slavic language that have NO CASES and possess ARTICLES! (see: the, les, das). It is strange maybe but having these features it is more close to Latin languages as a grammar.

@@perigali1881 it lost its cases, over the centuries it got simplified but still it posesses several cases.

@@rumenmarchev3031 So it was but i mean the Bulgarian of today.

@@perigali1881 its true but also macedonian(west bulgarian dialect) has the same grammar.

Можем да си говорим на руско-български когато пожелаеш 😉

Спасибо

Разбрах почти всичко, това е уникално!!!

Никога не съм срещнал хора в България, които не искаха да говорят българския с мен 🤔

@@vladivassilev7 Я живу в Израиле

@UChkmTGRMrJWOcBWVSGxxsjw I'm sorry, I'm not sure what you mean.

Somehow in this video I understood Bulgarian better than in my previous Bulgarian episode. I think knowing the context in advance helps. When you're traveling the pressure of a situation doesn't give time to listen in what Bulgarians are saying but in a relaxed environment I believe we can easily find a way to communicate batter.

@@Ecolinguist Interesting enough, I have rewatched your previous episode with Bulgarian and I would say that it was easier for me to understand Nadia than you did, at my impression at least. You have been confused by words like Художник, Преподаваш, Учиш - but they are pretty understandable for my russian ear.

@@forbidden9531 I've gained much more experience talking to other Slavs since I talked to Nadia. I think it became easier for me now but still I'm not actively learning those languages. I'm just developing my linguistic intuition, I guess.

@@Ecolinguist 👍 You are enriching your vocabulary, I think

Нееее, бегахме за Полша 😄

@@0d138 😅

Намираме се 🇧🇬❤️

A NE BE!

Избягах ме 😂

Thank you! 🤓

Dzięki! :)

@@Ecolinguist кво е dzieki

@@martindamyanov6590 Благодаря.

А от кога Жокер на български е Жоквер? :D ;))))

Peace to the World ❤

You forgot the Czech flag! 😉

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Angel Naydenov Well, Czechs are more Germanic than Slavic😉

@@anaydenov are they Slavic and sorry for my mistake

In german we say Mauer.

Thanks for the explanation:)

Mur is a French word. And in Russian we say ' stiena' , like in Polish and Bulgarian. He did not understand it from Polish because of the prononciation

@@vovabragin7109 'ściana' in Polish refers only to walls inside a building. A free-standing, outdoor wall is 'mur' or 'wał' (if it's not a brick or stone construction'. So we have 'Mur Chiński' = the Great Wall of China', but 'Wał Hadriana' = Hadrian's Wall. And 'ściana nośna' for load-bearing wall.

@@SzalonyKucharz French and Spanish have AFAIK only a two-way distinction. In Spanish a wall in a building is "pared' and a free-standing wall is "muro". French uses "mur" for both, but a cell wall is called "paroi".

And it's 'Cmok' in Belarusian

"Смок" = types of snakes in Bulgarian. The guy in the video was confused by a foreign word in Bulgarian "смог" = "smog" in English (comes from smoke+fog).

"Some knowledge"? It's a same language...

@@Milos596 hardly so.

@@Milos596 Russian and Ukrainian are pretty different. There's Surzhyk which is like 70-80% mutually intelligible with Russian though. Russian-Ukrainian mutual intelligibility is much lower than that. Around 30-40%.

I can't agree more 😅

It linguistics they call it a dialect continuum. 🤓

@@Ecolinguist Tako je ! :) ))

Bulgarian (analitic) language = old lang. Slavic (sintetic) = not old. Slavic dialects is a Bulgarian. And history maps is fake. Bulgarian history is hidden !

I find it fascinating to see how two people from two extremes of the Slavic world can still manage to communicate with each other. True, there were a few moments where communication was somewhat hindered but overall the conversation went on relatively fluently. I look forward to more of these excellent videos. Saludos desde Costa Rica.

I agree. Beside of that, the regions had different influences. For example westslavs had german influence, southslavs had latin and turkish influence

Charlie in Westeros explains the Karokow Dragon amazingly well. You can check out his video → ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-K6SEPEE9Ni4.html&t

@@Ecolinguist I was remember Krakow because I saw the great series "Legendy polskie" on youtube. So I knew what the word "smok" means :)

@@aleksandrsl4328 How is Bulgarian "almost the same with Russian"?

Thank you! 😂

@@aleksandrsl4328 I speak Czech, Slovak and Russian and understanding Ukrainian is very difficult for me. Norbert helps in this aspect, because I guess Polish and Ukrainian are really close, so it's getting better now :-)

@@aleksandrsl4328 I can't, because as I said, I don't speak Ukrainian ...

@@aleksandrsl4328 But knowing some Polish words from Norbert helps me now and then.

That's great! Thanks! Say Cześć to your Polish friend. 🤠

Dude, Old church slavonic = ancient Bulgarian. The Soviet and Yugoslav communist propaganda invented the "Old Church Slavonic". The idea is to repesent bulgarian successes in the past as slavic successes. During the Communism Bulgaria was ruled by a puppet prorussian government and no one really opposed the idea of the existence of Old church slavonic. Just look at its ridiculous name - Old church slavonic. Why would anyone create a separate language only to be used by priests....

@@JohnSmith-gh9lw Modern Old Church Slavonic is actually not the same as Old Bulgarian, especially pronunciation-wise. This actually caused problems back when Modern Bulgarian was being standardized. An example off the top of my head would be how you see "живущ" on documents quite a bit, even though "живеещ" is how it "should" sound, and there were a lot more of these before they got phased out. There is an actual, practical reason to distinguish between the two. Also, the Latin used by the church is similarly different to how the Latin spoken by Romans sounded, so It's not like a language for use by the church is some novel concept.

"Old Church slavonic" is language that never existed... its real name is old Bulgarian(СтароБългарски) and it was spoken druing first and second bulgarian empires. Many "known" things that are "known" today are communist propaganda especially this country called "fyrom", north macedonia or w/e their name is..

Old church Slavonic is old Bulgarian. Not to sound like a crazy nationalist or something but slavic languages to come from Bulgarian

@@svetlinsofiev6729 Look man, I'm Bulgarian. And that's not how languages work. First, the Old Church Salvonic used by the first Bulgarian Empire is Old Bulgarian, yes. The Old Church Slavonic used by the modern Russian church is not, it's had a bunch of phonetic changes. It's close, but not exactly. Second, slavic languages didn't "come" from Bulgarian. All Slavic languages do descend from a single proto-Slavic language. However, the various dialects of that language had likely already started to diverge from eachother by the 9th century. Old Church Slavonic did definitely have an influence on them, but it is not the origin of these languages. English isn't descended from German or from French, for example. Third, the Bulgarian spoken during the second empire had already diverged from OCS. A lot of the changes are things that are characteristic to Modern Bulgarian. For example, Bulgarian is noticably less soft than other Slavic languages, and this process of "hardening" of sounds had already started. This is reffered to as Middle Bulgarian and is different to both the Old Church Slavonic and Old Bulgarian.

Thank you for your kind words! I have a lot of videos for Polish learners on my channel so check them out if you do decide to learn Polish. 🤓Pozdrawiam z Polski! 🤠

It is better to communicate by using a Russian language. But it is only my opinion😊😊😊

Поздрави обратно 🇧🇬❤️

Guessing Turin wouldn't be that difficult for any football aficionado. The only association I have with Turin is the Shroud of Turin. 🤓

@@Ecolinguist like wise. It would be like you throwing Poznan out instead of Krakow. But all in all your videos keep getting better and better.

I decided not to go easy on him 😁 Poznan was going to be my next guess as these are the 3 Polish cities I know on the top of my head:)

@@CuriousPavel all in all you both did a wonderful job. Cheers from USA.

Thank you! Greetings from Poland! :)

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Wspaniale. Ze znajomością tylu języków wszędzie się dogadasz. 🤠

обОих парней, обеих девушек)

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Я вот украинец, вроде понимаю, но в некоторых моментах из-за жевания звуков и быстрого произношения очень сложно обработать и подставить по контексту слова

@@leonbishop7404 А если смотреть на субтитры (не английские! я специально на них не смотрел), то почти всё понятно.

Согласен

@@leonbishop7404 Вот да, когда они говорят немного медленнее, можно понимать о чем речь без раздумий.

На слух сложнее намного воспринимать речь

Dzięki za komentarz! Pozdrowienia z Polski! 🤠

@@Ecolinguist For nothing! :) ❤ Are you can make another video with Pavel?

@@roatskm2337 I think it's up to Pavel now. 🤠

@@Ecolinguist Ok!

@@roatskm2337 we're setting up the date for the next one already:)

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Dzięki! Pozdrawiam z Polski! 🤠

In spanish we say "muro" which is certainly similar to *mur* and *Mauer*

Latin - murus

Поздрави ❤️

Dzięki! :)

Nic dodać nić ująć :)

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Звучить наче піп з церкви говорить, молитву читає..: D прекрасна вельми мова та є Болгарська.

Ну тут уже половину не понял) Первое и третье предложение) Но второе понял))

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O tak! Zabawa była przednia! 😹

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Thank you! :) Greeting to you too!

greetings from London:)

Типичен пример са думите Лук и Люляк

Всъщност точно обратно - при лук и люляк имаме две видимо различни фонеми - л и ль. Буквите ю и я в българския, когато не са в началото на думата, служат като у и а с омекотена предходна съгласна - ль, нь, и т.н. По-интересно е когато няма видимо обозначение на твърдината на л-то, но ние по инстинкт знаем, че в “малък” имаме твърдо л (в полски Ł), но в “лек” имаме меко л (полски L). Но в западните диалекти дори “лек” е с твърдо л и звучи по-скоро като “уек”. Реално това са два различни звука, но нашата писмена система не различава между тях, разчитайки че носителите на езика знаят къде кой звук да произнесат.

Also only Bulgarian and Polish have IA for the Slavic jat: "miasto" is the same in Bulgarian just means "place"

Oh this is a nice explanation! I am learning Bulgarian and one interesting thing i found is that the diversity of L pronounciation. Sometimes it should be pronounced like L, sometimes it is very subtle and changed to some other consonant like (Plovdiv) Puofdif, (кола) Коwa, благодаря(Бъгодаря) село ( cewo) It is really interesting language!

@@Huyedelomalo Yep! And one more example is the word Obiad (lunch) Same in the two languages! :)