Good to hear from you again too! Glad to hear that you’re still enjoying yours! Nope! Not at all (see my comparison video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-s-ItXZDAIII.htmlsi=8HvL4ihrSeAmpux7). About the only think I miss is the ladder and pannier - everything else is better on the rangy (though I do miss the opportunity to sleep in the defender, but I could get that on the D5 - which was also better than my defender)!
Another awesome video! Down the road you may want to try the Mickey Thompson Baja Boss AT they do make it 275/55/20 LT. I’ve been running these on my defender….they are three peak rated, outstanding traction, and incredible off-road.
I’ll give them some thought, but the sidewalls look too aggressive to suit the Range Rover (I don’t like anything that screams AT/MT on a rangy. My experience with Mickey Thompson is that the rubber compound is very hard, as they’re designed specifically for warmer weather climbs (hence the Baja designation). This generally makes them quite poor in the snow and ice compared to the softer compound models. Additionally, they generally have very firm sidewalks, making them excellent for off-roading, but poorer on snow and ice as the sidewalk is too rigid to permit lateral shift. The compromises made to make an AT tyre reasonable in snow and ice are quite considerable. The 3PMSF rating is actually quite a low benchmark (though much better than an M+S tyre). This minimum threshold means that many 3PMSF tyres aren’t actually that good in snow and ice while others can be considerably better; the Cooper AT3 XLTs were 3PMSF, for example, and they were terrible next to the Outpost AT with literally double the stopping distance at the same road speed in the same conditions (personal test conducted with the Defender on ATs (with better ABS) and the Range Rover on Outpost ATs). Thanks, Steve! It’s good to hear from you! I hope you’re well!! I’ll certainly give them a look though! We don’t see them up here very often (which also tells you something), so I’d have to find a dealer.
@@shedlock2000 certainly not the best aesthetic for an RR, but they’ve impressed the heck out of me. I’ve been a KO2 fan forever, but these MT’s are really impressive. Last February I got caught up in several storms up in Montana and in Fernie BC…. their grip was outstanding. I think the thing that’s impressing me most is how quiet they are, and how well they’re wearing for such an aggressive tread pattern. But your analysis of this tire compared to the Nokian is spot on! The only challenge with such a soft compound tire like the Nokian is that they perform similar to a Formula One tire,in that they need to stay cold & wet, they degrade excessively fast. so once again, your comment about is really important in the proper selection of attire. Once again, wonderful work on your part …appreciate your videos so much.
Thanks, @@stevesalinas! It's nice to hear that someone appreciates the content. Yeah, the Outpost certainly wear more quickly than did the Cooper AT3s (my previous preference). This was intentional, as I needed (and valued) greater performance in the shoulder seasons we get here. I value a tyres performance where and when it is most needed, so I need it to stop well on the snow and ice that we get in the shoulder seacon (before one puts on winters), as it is in these emergency situations that performance is the most valued. That is to say that we really don't *need* them to perform well off-road (where we spend about 2% of our time; but we *do* need them to stop us when the car in front suddenly stops and we have to brake quickly. The AT3s were poor at this in the winter (though they were very excellent all round elsewhere). Accordingly, my advice is to focus on where the individual needs a tyre to excel. If you absolutely have to have pinnacle off-road performance, then the outpost won't be your selection. However, if you want a summer AT tyre that will work better than any other AT tyre I have ever run in the winter, then the Outpost are your choice. I'd estimate that they exceed the KO2 by about 50% in stopping and directional traction -- this is a significant amount. However, they do suffer from lateral stability in certain circumstances, so I do not advocate them fro continual winter use unless your snow days are few and far between.
Sadly the LR4/D4 late models don’t fit the 55 profile tyres on a 20” rim, as Land Rover added an extra chassis leg behind the front wheels and they rub, plus they catch the wheel arch liner in front of the front tyre too. I was very annoyed as I had a perfectly great set of GG AT3 tyres on Defender alloys! I’ve had to go back to stock 19” wheels with a 55 profile to give me deeper tyre sidewalls
Really?! That’s very interesting. So the 275/55/20 won’t fit on the LR4s? I know that JLR tweaked the frame and the body - the wheelbase altered as well! I think the wheel arch liner can be modified; I did that mod on my LR3, but I ran 275/55/20s without other issues. I recall reading something about the chassis leg - I think that Aussies have a fix for that, as they often fun 275/55/20s there
Lots of great comments. Hope your were correct when you said your tires had miles (not km.) on them. Totally agree that narrower is preferred in winter and you do get a longer footprint. As I've mentioned in the past, studs are not permitted in southern Ontario. However, Nokian and Michelin "friction tires" do challenge the studded tires on ice. I was watching your weather in Alberta and thinking of you.
Yup, I was right in the miles - I rarely use kilometres (as I can’t relate to them at all). Yes, the Nokian rubber and tread design exceeds most other tyres as well (if not all of them). I’ve run some of the other leading makes and they’re obviously better than all season or AT tyres, but the Nokian’s do seem to outperform other makes regardless of how good the others profess to be. I’ve never had any luck with anything from Michelin - so I stay well away from them these days. I do rate the Blizzaks, but that’s about it for winter tyres without studs imho. Things may have changed over the past few years (I gave up keeping track of things once I found Nokian), but I’d still put money on any Nokian dedicated winter outperforming any other winter tyre - studded or not!
