Are We Living In The End Times? 

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Glenn Coleman I come from a dispensational background myself. I studied eschatology quite a bit, and this just makes more sense. But it’s OK to be a bit agnostic about it first. I think that’s most peoples problem, they won’t admit that they do not know what they are talking about, that they are just parroting what they have been indoctrinated with. God bless

@@genesiskeglar6372 oh my goodness I agree. When I was confronted with post-mill beliefs, I was kind of just... in a state of suspended disbelief and not sure what to believe. I was raised into a pre-trib family and then I moved to post-trib, which left me feeling completely defeated and deflated, and then this guy dares to say the Millenia is NOW? I was so confused and it took me at least 6 months to come around to actually see it.

@@shelbycurry721 That’s totally understandable. We not only hear these type of beliefs in church, but we live in a very apocalyptic minded time. It’s in the cultural mindset through and through, so it’s a bit of a stunner to hear something that different.

@@genesiskeglar6372 Post mil makes no sense whatso ever. History gives it the lie and so does the Bible. Doug Wilson’s Postmillenialism (we the church are making everything better and better until we save the entire world) doesn’t match history and he knows it. The world is going to Hell in a handbasket around him spiritually and still he is Pollyanna. He tries to save his pet theory by swallowing up the past 100 years of disaster in “you have to look at 500 year intervals” but that doesn’t work either. We will look at that in a minute but first how do we measure growth of the “kingdom”? Is the Kingdom the gospel, The Church and if so which church, Christendom, technology, Standard of living or a set of ideas. He doesn’t seem to know and this is important. You cannot measure improvement if you won’t say what you are measuring. Okay, let’s look at Doug’s Four 500 year time eras since 30 AD. The first 500 years takes us historically to the fall of Rome (western Roman Empire). In the early part of this 500 years the Good News about Jesus is definitely spread rapidly from Judea throughout Europe, Asia and Northern Africa. The Western Hemisphere and Oceania is still largely untouched. Seems like progress BUT halfway through much of the visible Church joins hands with the polytheistic and oppressive Roman Empire and becomes the state religion. Is this a step forward or backwards. Well certainly wider spread of unpersecuted churches but a definite nosedive in the purity of the message which will lead to near total spiritual blindness for 1200 years. Not so good. Second 500 years is the age Of Islam and the Mongols. This is a big step backwards for the Kingdom from almost any conceivable measure. From a visible church standpoint, most of Asia is lost to Christianity. North Africa goes under. So do parts of Spain and Eastern Europe. Spiritually this is a very Dark time. We used to call it the Dark Ages. In Christendom (largely Europe), education declines, technology declines, missionary efforts are almost non-existent, the Church has become a secular empire ruled from the Vatican. Not a slow growth of the mustard seed. Third Era - The Crusades and the Renaissance. Well Technology is back on track but this is due to the Crusades stealing back Greco-Roman tech from Islam. Unfortunately they also stole Islam’s evangelism plan - spreading the faith by the sword. Not a good trade from a spiritual standpoint. The Roman church gets more and more secular and oppressive. It actually fields armies and wages war. Spiritually “the kingdom” is a cesspool which brings about the 4th era we are in. Circa 1500 brings us to two men and new movements they represent - Luther and Chris Columbus. The Reformation and European Exploration. The Cesspool of Rome finally stinks so bad that God raises up men like Luther, Huss, Wycliffe, and Tyndale determined to restore the Church and put the Bible and its message back in everybody’s hands. In the search for wealth and power, European exploration finally accidentally opens up The Western Hemisphere, sub-Sharan Africa, and Oceania to missionary efforts and the Great Commision of Mat 27:19-20 is finally fulfilled. The Gospel has made it to the ends of the earth. Unfortunately, much of the effort is by the Catholic Church still using the Islamic method of the sword and conquest - see South and Central America. Two brutal Protestants - Calvin and Knox - also adopt this methodology in a postmillennial spirit of saving the world whether it wants to be saved or not. This era, while a slight improvement on the last two, maybe, is not all progress. It is largely 500 years of literal civil war inside Christendom. The Church is fractured into a thousand warring denominations. It is the Spanish Inquisition. The Hugonaught War in France. The Hundred Years War. The War in Ireland. Napoleon, and the list goes on. The last hundred years of this period has been a bloodbath wiping out any spiritual gains of the prior 400. The Kaiser, Wilson, Churchhill, Stalin, Hitler and Roosevelt vie to see who can kill the most Christians and other humans. Morality and Church attendance has taken an ever-steepening nosedive. Tech is up but that just steepens the plunge. Communism murders millions between wars and so does abortion in “Christian” countries. We no longer know how many genders there are and we have returned to embracing Greco - Roman polytheism and homosexuality. How is this an improvement? Enjoy the internet and air travel. That is about all we got in net. And not a word aout dispensationalism which is also laughably wrong.

Uh, No! That is not what that verse means at all. If you are a Christian, you are not an enemy under God's feet but rather an adopted son.

@@johnbreitmeier3268 What you’re saying regarding our adoption is true, I’m in agreement that we are now children of God through the adoption that is in Christ. However, I once was a child of wrath and an enemy of God. It may be better said that my enmity with God was placed under the feet of Christ and He rid me of it by His grace. My rebel heart has been subdued, captured, won by the overwhelming love of Christ, and His display of that love, in His death on behalf of this wretched sinner.

Goooood word here!

Same. Pastor Jeff has helped set a new fire in my heart for evangelism by helping me understanding the truth of Revelation and Christ Kingdom.

Agreed. I was for a long time post trib/pre wrath but that isn’t much better than pre trib. It’s still a negative view of the long game.

Thanks for being condescending.

Thank you for your service

And he said "good, we can fire in all directions".

@@gigiis526 a preterist is a different story for sure as this I believe is a flat ignorance of Scripture- but those who differ opinion to me who is Pre-Millenial and that the rapture of the Church is pre-tribulation, surely someone who disagrees with me on this can still agree with me on the only means of salvation being through Jesus Christ alone by grace through faith alone? Jesus is God in the flesh, God is Triune- Father, Son and Holy Spirit. Surely someone who holds to these truths and believes them truly is a brother/sister in Christ? Unless you consider those who differ with you on eschatology not saved? In which case you probably declare a large portion of the Body of Christ unsaved(in your opinion)... what say you?

@@gigiis526 Full preterism is the only eschatology that is heresy. Historical, biblical partial preterism is not heretical.

@@gigiis526 We believe it happened, not in the way you think it will happen it the future. God bless you.

@@gigiis526 They don't use those titles either way. They use pastor which is biblically acceptable.

The end can only come as God prepares his people. Even with the corruption of the world God is in control as he prepares his people. Amen 🙏🏻

J Hankins Do you think in the perspective of someone from from the 30’s, 40’s or 50’s that Racism had increased? We wont know the day nor the our but these signs have been brewing for a long time. We are always in the end times. This world is dead we should celebrate that this footstool will no longer exist

As it was in the days of Noah means *they* as they have always done spread violence in all the lands to provoke God to anger, hence they only have until the 5th seal before God pours out his long awaited, promised vengeance upon them.

Love this verse. It happened just as Jesus said it would...in 70AD.

@@theeclecticcollective8279 Bro, I'm really struggling to piece this all together. This video has been helpful, but I'm having a rough time understanding it. Do you know any resources that explain post-millennialism or partial Preterism very simply and clearly?

Jacob Stanziole Jeff Durbin deals with it somewhat in some of his other videos. I’m sure there are others who do as well. But I would avoid anyone who says they’re FULL preterist. That can lead you to a lot of weird, heretical places doctrinally.

@@theeclecticcollective8279 I watch Apologia all the time. The most helpful things have been Jeff Durbin's preaching on the abomination of desolation and R.C. Sproul's teaching on "the last days according to Jesus." I was hoping to find something that specifically maps out the post-mil position a little more concisely.

Share the Gospel You would think that this was self evident just by reading scripture but all christians dont read scripture SMH

Earl Grey Hot happened at 70ad brother

@@millball So Jesus already came then?

JACKIE RUIZ no, the second coming hasn't happened yet. Id encourage you to listen to dr. Ken gentry on revelation & Thessalonians, apologia church on end times. You'll get a better run of understanding this than a convo with me. God bless

@@millball but Jesus placed his second coming in mathew 24..after the tribulation..

@@jackieruiz2348 Immediately after the Tribulation not thousands of years later. The two world wars were each worse than 70 AD. This teaching is clearly wrong.

Carla, you are cofusing the rapture and the Great Tribulation. What you are talking about is the Great Tribulation which Jesus talks about in Mat 24:15-28 which is the worst time in human existence. The Rapture is the Return of Jesus to gather up the Church both dead and living and set things right on earth. In verses 29-31 Jesus says this takes place IMMEDIATELY AFTER the Tribulation, not before or thousands of years after. The Left Behind Books says the Rapture comes first, Doug Wilson say the Great Tribulation, the worst time in human history, already happened in 70 AD when the Romans destroyed Herod's Temple in Jerusalem in 70 AD. He says after that things have just kept getting better and better and that eventually the Church will save the whole world before Jesus returns. This isjust plain wrong. The last hundred years alone of history was way worse than 70 AD. Jesus never said the whole world would be saved. Instead he said few would find the path to salvation. Doug is wrong. I hope that helps.

@@johnbreitmeier3268 okay. So I Just started learning about what the apolog Studios used the end times, can you possibly give me a rundown of what they believe in what majority of Christians believe in terms of the end times and Revelation? From what I’ve noticed apology studios believes that revelation talks about the fall of the temple in 70 ad

@@johnbreitmeier3268 okay. So I Just started learning about what the apolog Studios used the end times, can you possibly give me a rundown of what they believe in what majority of Christians believe in terms of the end times and Revelation? From what I’ve noticed apology studios believes that revelation talks about the fall of the temple in 70 ad

@@alexnicholson3915 Sure. This will be brief and miss a lot but you will get the gist. Durbin and Wilson teach what is called POST Millennialism. This simply means that Jesus will not return until after after the millenium

@@alexnicholson3915 Sure. This will be brief and miss a lot but you will get the gist. Durbin and Wilson teach what is called POST Millennialism. This simply means that Jesus will not return until after the millennium, a 1 thousand year period of Godly rule on Earth - by (wait for it) Jesus the Messiah. This Post Mil belief is thus idiotic and unscriptural - an oxymoron. The only explicit reference to this period being a “millennium”, meaning lasts 1000 years, is in Rev 20:1-10 which oddly enough comes right after Rev 19 which describes the bodily return of Jesus, the Word of God, to Earth at the Battle of Armageddon. So Rev 19 has Jesus returning before the Millennium and Rev 20 has Jesus ruling ON EARTH during the 1000 year “millennium”, so Jesus does NOT only return AFTER the Millenium. You have to be brain dead not to see Post Mil is wrong. Once you realize that there is no saving this oxymoron. Dougie the OX and Jeff the Moron say they got this teaching from Catholic scholar Augustine the Hippo (Alright of Hippo). This also where Calvinism supposedly came from which tells you something about that oxymoron. They base this idea mostly on wishful thinking. They say that the millennium started in 70AD with the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem, an event not recorded in the Bible even though Joh wrote Revelation 20 years later. From that point on we have according to Ox and Moron and the Hippo been living in the 1000 year reign of the Messiah with the Church running the world and everything getting better and better until it is fit for Jesus to come back. EXCEPT, of course, that 1) the church does NOT run even most of the world 2) Things are definitely not getting better and better 3) so far their “millennium” has lasted over 1950 years which is a bit over 1000. I would give Augie the Hippo a partial pass on the insanity of those mistakes because he died in 430 AD and 1) The church WAS kinda running most of HIS Roman world by then 2) His world WAS getting better for Christians - No one being eaten by lions. And 3) The 1000 years still had 600 to go. Jeff and Doug are hard put to find a braincell between them, however. Nothing of spiritual importance happened in 70 AD. 1) Jesus does not return. We are still waiting. Even Doug and Jeff are still waiting. 2) The Temple had been dead and useless for 40 years by this time. The end of Temple and Torah was in 30 AD at the crucifixion when the Temple veil split. Mat 27:51 According to the Talmud, even the day of Atonement offering was rejected 40 straight times after that. 3) The New Testament Age began with the Death and resurrection in 30AD Not the Temple destruction in 70AD. I cannot tell you what most Christians think but I can tell you what Jesus and the Bible say about the endtimes. The most compact passage is what Jesus has to say in Matthew 24. Here Jesus says his return will not only be Pre Millennial (before he starts ruling Earth directly) but Post Tribulational (immediately after the worst time in human history). 70 Ad was a bad year to be Jewish but it was not the worst time of even Jewish History much less world history. WWII beats it all hollow and worse is to come. In Mat 24 Jesus answers 3 not 1 question and this is where the Ox, the Moron and The Hippo get confused. Mat 24:3 after Jesus says the Temple would be destroyed his disciples ask 1) When is this destruction going to happen?, 2) when are you coming back?. And 3) When is the end of the world (Ox wants to go all dispensational and says Aeon means AGE as in Torah age, but the word can mean age or world and most scholars for 2000 years but say it means world here. Answer to #1: In this generation and 70 Ad was just barely. (V 34) #2 was Answered as a) “immediately after the great Tribulation, the worst time in human history (V.29-31) Clearly NOT 70 AD and b) You will not know when I return (v. 42-46) #3 was answered similarly No one knows (V 36) Does that help?

You having direct correspondence with the dark lord himself?

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I replied to you in the other comment. Shalom.

@@gigiis526 no it's not dopey

@@gigiis526 Liar.

@@kylec8950 No he may be a bit direct but he is right. Doug Wilson’s Postmillenialism (we the church are making everything better and better until we save the entire world) doesn’t match history and he knows it. The world is going to Hell in a handbasket around him spiritually and still he is Pollyanna. He tries to save his pet theory by swallowing up the past 100 years of disaster in “you have to look at 500 year intervals” but that doesn’t work either. We will look at that in a minute but first how do we measure growth of the “kingdom”? Is the Kingdom the gospel, The Church and if so which church, Christendom, technology, Standard of living or a set of ideas. He doesn’t seem to know and this is important. You cannot measure improvement if you won’t say what you are measuring. Okay, let’s look at Doug’s Four 500 year time eras since 30 AD. The first 500 years takes us historically to the fall of Rome (western Roman Empire). In the early part of this 500 years the Good News about Jesus is definitely spread rapidly from Judea throughout Europe, Asia and Northern Africa. The Western Hemisphere and Oceania is still largely untouched. Seems like progress BUT halfway through much of the visible Church joins hands with the polytheistic and oppressive Roman Empire and becomes the state religion. Is this a step forward or backwards. Well certainly wider spread of unpersecuted churches but a definite nosedive in the purity of the message which will lead to near total spiritual blindness for 1200 years. Not so good. Second 500 years is the age Of Islam and the Mongols. This is a big step backwards for the Kingdom from almost any conceivable measure. From a visible church standpoint, most of Asia is lost to Christianity. North Africa goes under. So do parts of Spain and Eastern Europe. Spiritually this is a very Dark time. We used to call it the Dark Ages. In Christendom (largely Europe), education declines, technology declines, missionary efforts are almost non-existent, the Church has become a secular empire ruled from the Vatican. Not a slow growth of the mustard seed. Third Era - The Crusades and the Renaissance. Well Technology is back on track but this is due to the Crusades stealing back Greco-Roman tech from Islam. Unfortunately they also stole Islam’s evangelism plan - spreading the faith by the sword. Not a good trade from a spiritual standpoint. The Roman church gets more and more secular and oppressive. It actually fields armies and wages war. Spiritually “the kingdom” is a cesspool which brings about the 4th era we are in. Circa 1500 brings us to two men and new movements they represent - Luther and Chris Columbus. The Reformation and European Exploration. The Cesspool of Rome finally stinks so bad that God raises up men like Luther, Huss, Wycliffe, and Tyndale determined to restore the Church and put the Bible and its message back in everybody’s hands. In the search for wealth and power, European exploration finally accidentally opens up The Western Hemisphere, sub-Sharan Africa, and Oceania to missionary efforts and the Great Commision of Mat 27:19-20 is finally fulfilled. The Gospel has made it to the ends of the earth. Unfortunately, much of the effort is by the Catholic Church still using the Islamic method of the sword and conquest - see South and Central America. Two brutal Protestants - Calvin and Knox - also adopt this methodology in a postmillennial spirit of saving the world whether it wants to be saved or not. This era, while a slight improvement on the last two, maybe, is not all progress. It is largely 500 years of literal civil war inside Christendom. The Church is fractured into a thousand warring denominations. It is the Spanish Inquisition. The Hugonaught War in France. The Hundred Years War. The War in Ireland. Napoleon, and the list goes on. The last hundred years of this period has been a bloodbath wiping out any spiritual gains of the prior 400. The Kaiser, Wilson, Churchhill, Stalin, Hitler and Roosevelt vie to see who can kill the most Christians and other humans. Morality and Church attendance has taken an ever-steepening nosedive. Tech is up but that just steepens the plunge. Communism murders millions between wars and so does abortion in “Christian” countries. We no longer know how many genders there are and we have returned to embracing Greco - Roman polytheism and homosexuality. How is this an improvement? Enjoy the internet and air travel. That is about all we got in net.

@@johnbreitmeier3268 Thanks for your opinion.

@@kylec8950 you are welcome, but as Joe Friday would have said it's just the facts. History in this case.

Michael McBride I would love to see them use a tripod

Agreed Also .... Matthew 24:37-39 37 But as the days of Noah were, so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. 38 For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, 39 And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

@@siobhan3685 Good follow up. I guess the post mills use a different “Bible.”

Keith, they also use a different history since the world is clearly not getting better and better and more moral and Christian. I is ismply wishful thinking.

Nope, you just don't understand what you're reading. You have the wrong audience in that passage of scripture. The "few" are the people of Isreal Jesus was preaching to who believed. Compare the "broad road" to Mat 23:38 - “See! Your house is left to you desolate; Otherwise you have a major problem with harmonizing "the few" to "the multitudes" in Gen 15:5 and Rev 5:11-14.

@@toddcote4904 “nope, you just don’t understand what you’re reading.” Well, I’m glad you’re here with your superior intellect to enlighten us. What hubris.

Sometimes first impressions are best. He is deceived. The world is not getting better and more Christian. Jesus clearly said most people would not find the path to salvation but most would go to destruction. The Great Tribulation of Mat 24, the worst time in human history according to Jesus, clearly did not happen in 70 AD and Jesus said he would return for us "Immediately after the Tribulation of those days." He did not come back in 70 or 71 or any time since so far. Post millenialism is dead to anyone who can read.

@@johnbreitmeier3268 you don't know how bad ad70 was.

@@philipmurray9796 Perhaps not, but having read Flavius Josephus' account of that war , I dare say that I have as good or better an idea as you do. What I do know is that even by the most exaggerated accounts, it was nowhere near the worst event in history, even if we are just considering the Jewish point of view. The Temple had been destroyed before and had been useless anyway since the veil of the Holy of Holies tore at Jesus' death. At worst maybe 1 million Jews died in 70 AD but 6 million died in WWII death camps alone. Nothing happened to most of the world in 70 AD. Only Judea was affected. WWI and WWII affected most of the world and killed way more. US bombings of Japan alone were worse than 70 AD, much more so the rest of the deaths in that war. 70 Ad was certainly a bad year to be Jewish, but from the rejection of their Messiah circa 30 AD to 1948 AD there was seldom a good year to be a Jew. That is one really bad run of poor luck. None of that answers my original point, however. Mat 24:29-31 is quite clear. Jesus says: "Immediately after the tribulation of those days" that he will return and gather "his elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to another." That absolutely did NOT happen yet. Thus 70 AD was NOT the great Tribulation of Mat 24:21. Final answer.

@@johnbreitmeier3268 John MacArthur has a great sermon in premillenium pre tribulation rapture. I fully agree with JM. Post trib totally decimates the flow and context of Revelation. I love Jeff Durbin and Doug Wilson, but they are COMPLETELY backwards on eschatology.

@@mariosangermano5709 Jeff and Doug are plainly willful idiots on eschatology but so is John MacArthur. If you agree with JM about pre-trib rapture, you call Jesus a liar. As I pointed out above Jesus plainly and unambiguously says that the rapture, the gathering of the elect from the 4 winds and from one end of heaven to the other, takes place "Immediately after the tribulation of those days." After that, it does not really matter if JM's misunderstanding of the "flow" of Revelation would be interrupted by Jesus' understanding of the order of his return, Jesus is right and prevails. Besides Revelations "flow" is interrupted several times by the nature of the structure of the book which is a 3 fold repetition of the events of the end of time in spiral form - The 7th seal contains the seventh trumpets which expands on the Day of the Lord. The 7th trumpet IS the 7 bowls of wrath which even further expands on the Day of the Lord's wrath. It is NOT a straight thru narrative.

john doe solid

Amen. I definitely agree. Jesus is at the door!! God bless, my friend!

It appears that they dont use KJV Bible for what ever reason..

You forgot to ask, the last days of WHAT? The last days of the Old Covenant, that's what! The scriptures we read are written at a certain point in history, to take them out of that history and bring them into our present time is to take them out of context. They, the apostles were waiting for the Last Days of the old covenant. The destruction of the Temple and the fulfillment of Jesus prophecy in His Olivet Discourse that not one stone would be left upon another. That happened in 70 A.D. Here is the fruit of end times teaching. Which was NOT a part of the early church fathers teaching it was invented by Darby and Schofield in the 1830's. Your belief has a history and it's not very old. Matthew 7:16-20 King James Version (KJV) 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so, every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them. So I ask you, "What is the fruit of the end times teaching?" Lazy deceived Christians who don't get involved with spreading the message of Christ redeeming the world. Why polish brass on a sinking ship. This place is going to hell and I want out. Teaching this message to children so that they don't build for the future because they are taught there isn't one. In so doing the Christian is the one who has given up instead of OVERCOMING. The worthless teaching of comic book Christianity where we get unbiblically raptured. There is no rapture in the Bible. End Times teaching is EVIL FRUIT.

That would be because there are better and more accurate translations.

Solomon Mike .....whats the confusion about? Jesus returns pre-mill. Read His Parable........ "The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one; The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels. As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world. The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear." Matthew 13:38‭-‬43 KJV

john doe I'd have to read up more fully on Pre/A/Post mil proof systems than to rely on one passage and take all of scripture into account. Thanks anyway.

Solomon Mike ......you should read and BELIEVE your Bible, not a system created by men. The scripture i pointed you to is from the Lord Himself. He says when He returns, the people will be seperated, some will be burned up and the others will go into the kingdom of His Father. Thats about as simple as one can make it. Also Revelation19 tells of Jesus return to earth and destroys the Beast and false prophet. The next chapter it says Satan is bound for a 1000 yrs and the tribulation saints are made alive again to reign with Christ for a 1000yrs!! The rest are not alive again until AFTER the 1000yrs are done. "And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years. But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection." Revelation 20:4‭-‬5 KJV Christ returns before the millennium based on scripture. Pre-mill. I hope i dont sound antagonist, i really just want to shine some light if i can. We are called to help each other when we can. Even if you dont accept it, just remember men create systems all the time to try to figure God out, but God can NOT be put into a "box/system". HES GOD!!!! God Bless you brother

john doe said "Jesus returns pre-mill." Then, "God can NOT be put into a "box/system"." So it's only a box system when it disagrees with you?

Christian Uploads .......its not a system to say Jesus returns before the 1000yr reign. Jesus clearly teaches that Himself. And thats the subject at hand. Anything else you want to try to trap me with??? just like the Pharisees

Further, he then sits down on the throne of his glory, and is then referred to as the King. Not from heaven, on earth.

Eli Marvin Me

I'm postmillennial, but I also understand the counter-argument. But I can't tell you how many people aren't post-mil, but love the positive premise. So in that light, I would live with the optimism that God obviously has the power to save the whole world, even if you don't believe it will work out that way. God bless you brother in your walk and study.

@@gigiis526 Wrong. Preterist do not deny the second coming. You're thinking of hyper-preterist. And postmillenialist are preterist.

@@gigiis526 you need to look up both preterism and postmil. Dont be so quick to call someone a heretic bro. Neither of these guys deny Jesus's coming return

@@nathanielbuck5042 Amen.

@@gigiis526 postmillenialist are partial preterist, they place the 2nd coming after the thousand years in revelation 20...

Yes, if Siskel and Ebert were completely wrong

"Behold I am comng quickly"-Jesus in Revelation 22:12

@ Ken 10001000 Hebrews 9:28 tells us exactly when and what the second coming is as I stated above replying to John Doe. 70 A.D. was the fulfillment of Jesus prophecy in His Olivet Discourse. The "second coming" is something else entirely. End of what age? the age THEY, Jesus and the Apostles were living in when this was written, the Old Covenant age. When this was written the world was pregnant with the New Covenant, experiencing its birth pangs. The Old Covenant sacrifice system was destroyed in 70 A.D. in a Jewish civil war started when the abomination that causes desolation was placed upon the altar in the temple. That was the bust of Caesar who demanded that Caesar be worshiped in the temple and the temple Jews agreed and the zealot Jews revolted and then came Titus who destroyed Jerusalem. It's all recorded in the works of Josephus.

Ken, your referring to Full or Hyper preterism, which is false. But Partial preterism is the most accurate and logical interpretation of Revelation. Revelation was written before the Tribulation of those days around 66A.D and distributed to the 7 churches to warn them of the coming Judgement and the man of sin who's name equalled 600, 60 and 6. His name in Hebrew germatia adding the vowels of letters was Kaiser Nero, Emperor Nero, who's nickname was "The Beast" .

Again, The second coming is a timeless event experienced at every believer's coming to Christ or, is the reality He comes to save us? In any event Hebrews 9:28 tells us that Jesus came the first time to deal with sin (on the cross) and comes the SECOND (coming) time to bring salvation to those who are seeking Him. I've had people argue that this couldn't be true because the Bible only says it once. I don't even have words to respond to that statement, it's so lacking. The entire 9th chapter is so chock full of the subject and culminating in the last sentence, what more proof does one need? The end times false doctrine is surely a principality whose fruit is evident all around us.

A few responses to my comment/question seem to be leaning on preterism. Can someone who holds to preterism tell me from the scripture I mentioned above (Matthew 13 and 25) if THOSE events happened in Jesus supposed return in 70 AD? How could they? I find that preterists love to mention Josephus as some grand "back-up". But that is a appealing to a non-believer historian. Why not simply and directly take the verses I mentioned before, and hold fast to them over some other view? They are truth ... about this age and the age to come. In Matthew 13 Jesus mentions what happens at the end of the age/world. Read it. In Matthew 25 Jesus tells us that all nations will be gathered together, and the sheep will be separated from the goats, and folks will be sent into everlasting punishment and others enter into life eternal. This did not happen in 70 AD.

Then Jesus is a liar and Christianity is a lie. Because these things MUST SOON TAKE PLACE. THIS generation (those standing listening to Him speak) will not pass away until all of these things take place. 70AD is A coming in judgment. The sign of a REAL prophet is that what he prophesies happens. If we are still waiting then Jesus is a liar because that generation has past and died. THE "second coming" is defined in Hebrews 9:28 and it is the TIMELESS event of salvation that will continue until the end of the earth as described in the "Gloria Patri" Ephesians 3:21. World without end.

J Hankins Yes of course. With respect and loving kindness, what is your point?

J Hankins Yes but my point is that we've seen the signs and symbols of the end times forever now. Long before you or I were conceived. That's my point.

SASD Ghost Good luck reasoning with J Hankins who's probably sitting in a leather chair in a climate controlled house with food in the fridge in the west. Meanwhile he tells us how bad it is because he can see the badness with his eyes. He is blind and has no idea what the early church suffered (even though you can read about it in the Bible!) nor what happens to converts around the world.

I appreciate your lightheartedness. It's very popular to think the world will end. Look at all the YT false prophets. It's a shame and blasphemy to Christ's name and the Bible. For just under 200 years now America has been "drunk on the millennium" as one historian put it. Since you love the Bible enough to study for 40 years consider that the Bible must have had meaning to it's original audience. "I, John, your brother and partner in the tribulation" must mean something to the seven churches that "are" (were) in Asia. Real places, real people. All of this new world order, one world currency, Illuminati garbage is not fitting for Christians. Yes, it's ahistorical, Christians were not only not-loony, they invented The West. And yes, some of these modern teachings are non-Biblical or even un-Biblical.

@J Hankins It is crazy to me that you believe all past believers were living in futile hoping Christ would return for them, but that it is just OUR generation that can ultimately "truly" claim those promises.

Because it seems no one really knows how to interpret scripture anymore and appropriate verses to suit their spiritual comfort and maturity..I think today we need to be ready regardless because it may be our last individual Ly regardless God is endless in eternity but not here on earth as a human being we don't live here forever so we can't live as if we. Own the future on earth. Too many doctrines that's the problem.

Nave Wilson by faith you have been healed not by works so that no man can boast. 😍 I was thinking about a reply I sent to a nother person on this post. Wish I could find it and delete it. Lol. I know my flesh is weak. It doesn't take much for me to realize that the only cure to this flesh that goes against God is to recieve my new body at rapture. Then I will never fight against my Lord again. Paul said he does the very thing he wants not to do. Heaven awaits.

The great tribulation is all about Gods finale judgment on sin. The church is not meant to take Gods wrath. Jesus took it in our place. Revelation 4:1 says come up here and I will show you things which must be here after. The church is mentioned in chapters 2 and 3 and not mentioned after 4. 1Thessalonian 4:17 Noah and the ark and Sodom and Gomorrah are examples of God removing the righteous before Gods judgment. In Jesus Name amen

Jeff Durban doesn’t teach any kind of works Salvation. Show me the video or writing where he does such a thing. I’ve listened to him for a while now- he certainly doesn’t preach any kind of works will save you. Also, it isn’t blasphemy to say that God has chosen ‘some vessels for wrath and others not’ Even if you disagree with Jeff it’s certainly NOT BLASPHEMY. Good grief. Why are people so quick to call other Christians ‘false teachers’ or ‘blasphemers’ or ‘heretics’ We should reserve that kind of talk for only the most obvious and extreme examples. I disagree with many Theologians- NT Wright for example- yet I don’t carelessly toss around those kinds of claims. Sickening.

Premillenial Dispensationalism is a tradition. The Church historically has NOT taught a secret rapture or 7 years of Tribulation. It's only about 200 years old.

Yes, it is getting dark, and Jesus told us to let our lights shine. Scientifically speaking, darkness is nothing more than the absence of light. The gospel needs to go where the world is dark. Praise God for His goodness, and be certain, come what may, it is for His glory! Lord bless you!

It’s been much darker than this.

It’s pretty dark right now.

But don’t look at the darkness, look to the True Light and shine it for Him.

Postmillennialists are making the same mistake as the Jews of Christ's day: Looking for a worldly kingdom and a worldly king. They will, in essence, help build the kingdom of the Antichrist.

I'm buying post trib except for that part

Hope can even be used by satan to offer false hope... The world will only get darker and darker. Darker than it has ever been before Jesus returns. It'd be a pipedream to think it would get better! Lol

@@brittneybracht7059 - it is getting better. As a whole. think of a chart that keeps going up while it goes down periodically then back up . climbing the whole time. as you sit in your lazyboy chair with aircondition and no one hunting you down to make you a martyr. while you hear preaching any day of the week. anywhere in the world. with the finest medicine. with life expectancy of babies is high and expectancy of life is getting nearer to 100. no plagues that wipe out millions upon millions. the pollution of horses and dung full of diseases gone.

the nations are Christ's inheritance. Christ purchase them .

Daniel Mann until Jesus takes the deed as in the book of Revelation, Satan still has control. Just like when Jesus didn’t argue Satan had them to give during the temptation. Yes Jesus owns them but Satan has possession until Jesus by force takes them at His second coming. And an army will be assembled at that time trying to stop it from happening. Scripture

@@Hoggwash1839 No. Flat out wrong. All authority in heaven AND ON earth, HAS been given to Christ. The bible never says Satan owns the world.

That is because Postmillienialism is not Christian

@@johnbreitmeier3268 Not even 'bloody Mary' as he calls the Catholic Church has gone that far

Exactly. Those who run our society are very clear they intend to merge man and machine within this decade. These people seem completely blind to what's taking place in the world .