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Are Woods Like Pau Ferro and Basswood Only For Cheap Guitars? 

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People like to accuse manufactures of using basswood, pau ferro, and other woods that aren't Alder, Maple, Rosewood, Mahogany, or "typical guitar woods" as being cheap. But is that really the case? Are these types of woods only used for "budget guitars"?
#pauferrofretboard #guitarwoods #suhrguitars

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@BaritoneOneFive
@BaritoneOneFive Год назад
I love pao ferro. Its not porous, it's great to work, it has a nice warm tone. Basswood is a great choice if you want a light guitar. It has nice resonance and a soft attack. Some people feel a basswood body with a maple cap is the ultimate.
@petedetraglia4776
@petedetraglia4776 Год назад
Pau Ferro destroys Rosewood in color and making the grain pop after a good conditioner is applied. I've owned Gibsons, Strats, Schecters, and Epiphones with Rosewood fret boards. Pau Ferro is absolutely my favorite due to its snappiness and slightly warmer sound. My opinion is Rosewood is over rated due to it being the "Standard" Holy Grail wood for fret boards for years and I'm loving my new Epiphone Les Paul Custom Pro I just purchased with the Pau Ferro fretboard with all Mahogany body and neck... Pau Ferro just looks amazing when done right....
@GhostDragon1182
@GhostDragon1182 Год назад
I agree that rosewood is held in a higher regard than it should be, it’s just wood but people romanticize it as some kind of holy relic for guitar building. Pau Ferro can vary more in looks but a good piece with some nice striping looks amazing. The similar feel to ebony is a big plus for me too, but that’s all personal preference there. It’s a favorite although I do think my Silverburst strat would look better with a maple board lol.
@mrodelabass
@mrodelabass 2 года назад
I have a custom alder body Music Man style bass of which has had 3 maple shaft necks with either maple, rosewood and pau ferro fretboards. The neck with the pau ferro fretboard by far was easiest to hear in a mix. It sounded and looked fabulous.
@KRAZEEIZATION
@KRAZEEIZATION 7 месяцев назад
PF was a wood that they chose to use once the Rosewood CITES malarkey came in. The main purpose of a fretboard is to a) hold the frets in and b) be hard wearing! It’s a bit of a shock when you see the big steaks if you’re used to Rosewood. But I’ve seen Rosewood with big contrasting streaks too. I prefer Rosewood to be dark and consistent but I’ve yet to own a PF model. It’s not bad, it just looks different. You won’t tell the difference in sound I’m afraid. Indian Laurel is closer to Rosewood in most part. The grain seems tighter. As long as a guitar sounds great who cares.
@davelinstead4052
@davelinstead4052 Год назад
Nailed it. With all organic products there are different grades. You can get a crappy rosewood and a gorgeous Pau ferro or Indian Laurel. Taylor responsibility uses ebony from Cameroon. It can have blond streaks in the black wood. Lighter. Darker. It’s all a matter of taste. All great woods. I’ve even heard that back in history a Gibson offered an “upgrade” to Pau ferro. Lol. Nailed it.
@RotterStudios
@RotterStudios Год назад
Pau Ferro is very nice. As for the tone, yes, neck would will make a little difference. Just saw a video from Fender between maple, rosewood and ebony. All have a different tone. Also, it is the wood the body is made of and also if the pickups are mounted direct to body or floating via attached to pickguard. Even though they're electric guitars, woods and how pickups are mounted make the little differences. Mostly fretboard wood is for looks and feel. Ebony to me is far better than rosewood for example...bends are smoother on ebony.
@jalithic
@jalithic 9 месяцев назад
If you play the guitar through a real amp (not an amp modeler) you can hear a sound difference in wood choices, and also if your pickups are not wax potted (wax potted pickups deaden the tone and articulation). I Know this first hand, I've swapped them out and played them in the same guitar. I have 7 American Pro II V-Mod Double Tap Tele Deluxe Shawbuckers (all not wax potted) in a bunch of my Strats. Two have an alder body and an all maple neck and these pickups have a slightly harsher mid range to them. The one with the alder body and Pau Ferro fretboard smooths that out and sounds pleasing through my 2008 Budda Superdrive 18. It sounded even more beautiful when it had an all rosewood neck on it. Now if you're playing on stage or in the studio with other stringed instruments you're going to be hard up picking out the difference in the mix, and the audience would be oblivious. But to say there's no tone difference is flatly wrong. I was ignorant for the longest time before I started building my own Strats three years ago, ✌🏻❤
@DamianoftheRyans
@DamianoftheRyans Год назад
Most people are waaay too easily influenced; programmed, soulless drones. 🤣Pau Ferro is a beautiful, quality wood. "Cheap" monetarily doesn't necessarily have anything to do with any wood's physical quality. It's more about the logistics and legality of it all. I just ordered an M6 from Precision Guitar kits with a Pau Ferro fretboard, because I personally think it's more beautiful than your "standard and overused" Rosewood. People's minds are of the vile kind. 😂
@GhostDragon1182
@GhostDragon1182 Год назад
The longer I am involved in the guitar community the more I learn that there is a lot of superstitions about woods and things like that.
@DamianoftheRyans
@DamianoftheRyans Год назад
@@GhostDragon1182 - Well said! It gets nuts too... self-righteous, holier-than-thou little clans, in everything from pickups, bridges, hardware, woods, scale length, even strings! I am a musician, and I'm particular 'bout my sound, who isn't? BUT, everyone is an individual. If you like it, that's the point! I used to have an "attitude" with my Marshall plexi and usa Jacksons. I wasn't rude to people or anything, but it was like this internal righteousness. I later found that there is waaay more equipment that was just as good, and even better. 🤣 I was immediately shown to stop being the ass I was. Even lost a good friend over it, because I bought a Mezzabarba and he was miffed I didn't get a Marshall. 😂 It's a vanity/pride thing that usually roots pretty deep. Sooo ridiculous. 😏Makes for good righteous-indignation type conversation though. 😇🤣😎
@user-uj8um8lb6c
@user-uj8um8lb6c 8 месяцев назад
Let me tell you something because you charge a bunch of Money doesn't make it quality personally speaking if you want the best quality for the money buy a EASTMAN ebony fingerboard light weight mahogany that's quality
@zafira976
@zafira976 Год назад
That information is completely false and you are misleading people into thinking the wrong thing. The fret-board wood makes a huge difference. Also, Pau Ferro is a fantastic wood that combines all positive aspects of ebony without dominating the tone with shrill high end. If however you have a neck that lacks in top end and has too many mids like mahogany or Limba or even Wenge, Pau Ferro will "tighten up" the tone, add top end and the whole guitar tone will be more balanced. You'll also get really nice glassy notes high up in the neck (in the neck pickup position)...more so than with just a plain maple neck and the tone will sound "cleaner" without the excessive high mids of a maple fret-board. Also, Pau Ferro is no substitute for rosewood as it sounds brighter and doesn't filter as many frequencies as rosewood does.
@GhostDragon1182
@GhostDragon1182 Год назад
I can assure you that I can link you a song and you can’t tell which guitar has the rosewood board and which has the maple. I can lay down sound demos with 5 different guitars (rosewood, ebony, pau ferro, maple, and Indian laurel) and you won’t be able to tell the difference because fretboard wood doesn’t matter once you plug into an amp.
@zafira976
@zafira976 Год назад
@@GhostDragon1182 be a little bit more mindful when you are making such statements "GhostDragon". I am not going by fake names and stand behind what I say. I have been researching and testing wood in my own small custom shop over the past 20+ years, so don't tell me what I will or won't be able to hear. I've been challenged before and was asked to hear the body/neck wood of a guitar. I guessed the amp, the wood species as well as the pickup of the guitar in that sound-clip correctly. At first the guy said to me "it's not a Brown Eye, it's a Kemper" but...turns out the actual profile was of a Brown Eye amp and the pickup was a Pearly Gates. I heard all that through an iphone, not even through any decent speakers. You know "GhostDragon", sometimes when people talk random shit pretending they know stuff, they just happen to bump into somebody who really knows his stuff...in your life this is one of those times
@GhostDragon1182
@GhostDragon1182 Год назад
@@zafira976 thanks for the laugh man.
@GhostDragon1182
@GhostDragon1182 Год назад
@@zafira976 also, I wouldn’t say I’m hiding super well but my real name doesn’t NEED to be out there for me to stand behind what I say. Maybe I just don’t want to wake up with a severed Gibson headstock in my bed Georgios. If that is indeed your real name🤨
@mixmixture7049
@mixmixture7049 6 месяцев назад
Rosewood and maple is still best sound for me.
@ECO20222
@ECO20222 Месяц назад
I don't care which guitar has pau ferro and how expensive the guitar is. Pau ferro is a more economical alternate to rosewood => it is a cheap wood.
@GhostDragon1182
@GhostDragon1182 Месяц назад
Something being scare, which makes it more expensive, does not mean it's necessarily superior. Pau Ferro is cheaper because it's more readily available than rosewood. If rosewood was suddenly as abundant as Pau Ferro and they were the same price would you hold the same opinion? Pau Ferro was reserved for high end guitars until CITES regs clamped down on rosewood and they switched to Pau Ferro on less expensive guitars, had they still used it exclusively on $5k guitars, nobody would be calling it a cheap alternative.
@Allison_Chaynes
@Allison_Chaynes 9 месяцев назад
It might be a fine tone wood, but it does feel cheap and look cheap. I had a strat with PF and the fingerboard felt so dried out. It also looked like a cheap Chinese made guitar. Maybe it doesn't effect the sound, but it felt like it did. I just didn't like it at all. 🤷‍♂️
@GhostDragon1182
@GhostDragon1182 9 месяцев назад
Suhr guitars look like cheap Chinese made guitars then?
@mixmixture7049
@mixmixture7049 6 месяцев назад
Rosewood is the best for me. But not really durable like other wood like maple or PF itself.
@Angel-fz8dr
@Angel-fz8dr 19 дней назад
Did you tried oiling that fingerboard? Because I did mine and it made a difference.
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