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Arenado Couldn't Have Picked A Worse Time For An Error, Cardinals Crushed By Reds 

Brenden Schaeffer - St. Louis Cardinals writer
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Brenden Schaeffer discusses the Cardinals 9-4 loss to the Reds from Saturday at Busch Stadium.
Sonny Gray was not as sharp as we've become accustomed to seeing him recently as he seemed to labor through the outing. Gordon Graceffo pitched well in his MLB debut, so that's something.
Nolan Arenado's error in the fifth inning proved costly as the inning unraveled from there with the Reds scoring six runs to put the game effectively out of reach.
Paul Goldschmidt homering was a highlight for the offense but it just wasn't nearly enough.
We get into the conversation about Arenado's struggles and whether the team would consider various measures to combat them.
Plus, we go down on the farm as Brenden moos like a cow for a sound effect.
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Комментарии : 73   
@garyrobinson5655
@garyrobinson5655 23 дня назад
One step forward 2 back. Consistency is all we ask for
@jimg7318
@jimg7318 23 дня назад
Graceffo looks like a keeper to me. May be to early to tell but his stuff looked really good. He is capable of 96+ but he chose to actually pitch and use his breaking stuff and mix up his pitches. He didn’t finish a few of his pitches but that might have been due to being hyped up for his first appearance. I think his control will improve now that he is past his first appearance. Our big boppers are a wash at best when you consider their K rate. We get guys on base and in scoring positions and then go for the fences and end up with nothing. Gotta put the ball in play. I really don’t think we have the management to make a sustainable run. We our lucky to have won the 2nd game of this series. Hopefully we end up splitting but that isn’t very comforting to me against the Reds. Seems Nado is not at all happy with his situation. The guy came here thinking that management was going to go all in and he was going to get to the World Series. I think he would be happy if they traded him. Could be wrong but just seems that way to me. Gorman isn’t the answer at 2nd. Yesterday a medium velo ground ball got past him to his right that could have been caught but his first step (reaction) was to his left. His K rate is terrible. Not what I was hoping for cause I really like him.
@billbayes3261
@billbayes3261 23 дня назад
Is Nado injured? What is going on? Can you find out?
@georgesouthwick7000
@georgesouthwick7000 23 дня назад
Looks to me like both Arenado and Goldschmidt just don’t give a sh*t anymore.
@chrisweidner4768
@chrisweidner4768 23 дня назад
@@georgesouthwick7000Goldy looks like he’s relying on guessing too much. Arenado looks like he takes plays off. Sigh. Heads just not in it like before?
@slocumb1270
@slocumb1270 23 дня назад
@@georgesouthwick7000 Exactly this.
@justinhutchins6753
@justinhutchins6753 23 дня назад
@@georgesouthwick7000Goldschmidt don’t have much in tank left how many games does he have two hits in game arenado is playing fine he said member is said he is retiring as cardinal
@boschlosser10
@boschlosser10 23 дня назад
This is why I bang the table on bringing in Trout.. he’s the only guy that will get the most out of these two guys
@derekcropp
@derekcropp 23 дня назад
This is not the first time that Arenado has literally dropped the ball in crucial situations, especially while Sonny is pitching. I am not too happy about Arenado's play defensively.
@laurelt
@laurelt 23 дня назад
I think he's hurt. He've got a lot of hit by pitch from the beginning of the season. I pray for him to be back in good health asap. He's the best 3B ever. I respect him.
@georgesouthwick7000
@georgesouthwick7000 23 дня назад
Guess you never saw Mike Schmidt or Brooks Robinson play?
@billbayes3261
@billbayes3261 23 дня назад
The Cardinals actually should have swept the Reds and at worst should be taking 3 out of 4. Graceffo should be put in the starting rotation. Sem should be brought up as well. The Cardinals have absolutely NOTHING to lose by doing this. Sending Graceffo down makes absolutely no sense after what he did. It's time for the Cardinals to bring up their young pitchers and do more than just give them a few innings. I wish that we had several good pitching coaches to develop these young pitchers. Perhaps a possible coach is an older pitcher in the current rotation. They need new blood.
@garyrobinson5655
@garyrobinson5655 23 дня назад
If he's in the starting rotation where?
@billbayes3261
@billbayes3261 23 дня назад
​@@garyrobinson5655 put one of our current underperforming starters temporarily in the bullpen.
@mikekeeler6362
@mikekeeler6362 23 дня назад
But then the Reds should have beat the Cardinals Friday night
@stephenconnell2689
@stephenconnell2689 23 дня назад
We need a Chris Carpenter type pitching coach. He learned from Dave Duncan, as did Lynn. Lynn is getting older and isn't what he used to be, but he doesn't nibble and goes right at the hitters. Carpenter and Lynn are both better than Blake, who would make an excellent assistant to them.
@stephenconnell2689
@stephenconnell2689 23 дня назад
​@@garyrobinson5655, let's give Miles a rest
@SpaceMagicStorm
@SpaceMagicStorm 23 дня назад
I also agree with them not trading a player like Lynn or Arenado, they aren't performing the best here and there but cards as an org tends to stand by their players and hope they can perform better and possibly make decisions in the off season.
@pacogreenwell9411
@pacogreenwell9411 23 дня назад
I'm curious to know what the plan is for using Edman now that Siani has emerged as a solid everyday option in CF? Back to a utility role or starting CF? Maybe he gets all of the starts at 2nd against LHP? Maybe it really doesn't matter until his return is certain. IDK...
@boschlosser10
@boschlosser10 23 дня назад
Honestly they should trade for Trout.. he’s the leader to help Goldie and Nado out of the rut will make it fun for them again not siani and edman and scott
@georgesouthwick7000
@georgesouthwick7000 23 дня назад
After a very productive 6 week period, where the Cardinals definitely overachieved, the last 7 games represent what the statisticians refer to as “regression to normal”. There performance over the last week is a far better indicator of the talent on this team than the previous 6 weeks.
@Jeff76767
@Jeff76767 23 дня назад
Yep, but Bally sports Midwest is ready to throw a parade. I think I saw Brad Thompson sprinting outside to erect a statue outside Busch stadium.
@georgesouthwick7000
@georgesouthwick7000 23 дня назад
@@Jeff76767Listing to Brad Thompson do color commentary is a good cure for insomnia.
@SpaceMagicStorm
@SpaceMagicStorm 23 дня назад
I am a cardinals fan but as for talking trades, or other teams in general as examples I like watching teams Yanks and Phillies cause they're usually actually good, and I like keeping tabs on teams like Astros or Mets because they've had an interesting season and have a few strong players that if they know they aren't going to make it who knows what they'll do at the trade deadline.
@mr.intensity2685
@mr.intensity2685 22 дня назад
Hey! I finally got the video to play...On my phone! Once again, your video wouldn't play on either TV, but the Sunday Lance Lynn video will.
@bschaeffer12
@bschaeffer12 22 дня назад
It's probably weird due to there not being a video attached just a picture so it might be a weird format for tv!
@justinhutchins6753
@justinhutchins6753 23 дня назад
The double a cardinals are hitting 264 as a team and St. Louis is hitting 239 as a team and seriously the issue for St. Louis is getting lot runs the only way win a game is out score teams St. Louis is 10-11 against the division
@nickelliott1174
@nickelliott1174 23 дня назад
This team in a nutshell, consistently inconsistent. This team has too many holes and can't seem to figure out how to be fundamentally sound.
@boschlosser10
@boschlosser10 23 дня назад
Again that’s why they need to pull the trigger on Trout.. he will make it fun for Goldie and nado again and they will play to their level guaranteed
@davidshowmaker4408
@davidshowmaker4408 23 дня назад
Like I’ve said he doesn’t want to be here because Mo lied to him about building a winner around him if he didn’t opt out!
@boschlosser10
@boschlosser10 23 дня назад
100% he wants to be a dodger
@bschaeffer12
@bschaeffer12 23 дня назад
Yours is a mischaracterization. Arenado is a big part of this being a winner and he's played poorly.
@chrisweidner4768
@chrisweidner4768 23 дня назад
Getting a feeling that the talent is there, but the mind isn’t. Perhaps the love of playing has simply gone away. Arenado made an excellent play on the smash down the line saving Graceffo. This team continues to suck the life out of the room just when you think they are turning the corner. Gray looks like he’s overwhelmed by the heat. I see stressed face waaaay too much. Suddenly Masyn and Burly have grown 🥶. Perhaps it’s just me being an impatient fan, as it’s such a long season. Baseball seems to disappoint every time it gets a chance to. Sigh. Go Cardinals. Certainly getting humiliated at home isn’t fun. Cardinals seem to have hit the doldrums. Again. Or is it simply “sports entertainment.” Thanks for the laugh. As you started listing the reasons why the league looked at us sideways. Long list. Humiliating list. 🙄🤣🤣 The minor league updates is welcome. Thanks .
@davidshowmaker4408
@davidshowmaker4408 23 дня назад
Goldschmidt sure can hit with nobody on!
@stephenconnell2689
@stephenconnell2689 23 дня назад
The pitching is gassed and needs reinforcements. I'm glad they have started shuttling the prospects up, but they need to trade for the best pitching available. This means they have to trade some players. Mo has shown no interest in trading them. Rooker from the A's is available if offense is needed. Pitching of Gray's quality is a must. Both White Sox starters are better than what we have. Mozaliak has failed to take Goldschmidt and Arenado to the World Series. If stud pitching is available from teams that would be acceptable to them, we have players to replace them. Won't happen, and due to "professional differences," teams like the Padres will leave us behind. The future is Baker, Saggese, Prieto, the past is Carpenter, Crawford, Goldschmidt. Mozaliak best get a couple of pitchers, a starter and reliever at least, or we will not be a factor in the playoffs.Learn from the Colby Rasmus trade. "Staying the course" will give us a 00.5% chance of success in the playoffs.
@georgesouthwick7000
@georgesouthwick7000 23 дня назад
Why is Nolan Gorman not in Memphis?
@bschaeffer12
@bschaeffer12 23 дня назад
There's not really a strong argument for someone to take his place
@andrewhoffman1087
@andrewhoffman1087 23 дня назад
​@bschaeffer12 Respectfully, I'd say Donovan plays 2B again (he won a gold glove playing primarily there already) and try to swing a trade for a Brent Rooker type, or try giving Walker or Carlson more consistent playing time. I'm not a fan of Carlson overall, but maybe giving the guy a shot (like Burleson) could bring out the best in him? At least until Nootbaar comes back... AGAIN...
@georgesouthwick7000
@georgesouthwick7000 23 дня назад
Arenado’s error changed the whole complexion of the game. If he handles it cleanly for the double play, Gray and the Cardinals are out of the inning still trailing only 2-1. Unfortunately, this kind of play, along with his diminished offensive production and lack of hustle running out ground balls have become typical. Maybe it is time, or even past time for him to play for some other team.
@boschlosser10
@boschlosser10 23 дня назад
He wants to be a dodger so bad
@andrewhoffman1087
@andrewhoffman1087 23 дня назад
​@@boschlosser10 Well, LA won't want him if his play doesn't improve.
@BillDownton
@BillDownton 23 дня назад
I keep signing he is batting 238 we're demanding hit 248 last year
@BillDownton
@BillDownton 23 дня назад
I hate spell check
@docholliday4824
@docholliday4824 23 дня назад
Once again, I will say the cards must get more offense if they want to get a wild card slot. Right now offense is not even average. How long do the cards keep putting Gorman out there? as a long time fan, I just am not excited about this team. Way to many questions.
@KevinWM2
@KevinWM2 23 дня назад
Not a great start by Sonny. Didn't come through with the bats enough. I'm worried about half of our offense on a daily basis. However at least it's not as bad the first six weeks...yet Hopefully we're not heading back that direction.
@Jeff76767
@Jeff76767 23 дня назад
Bases loaded 1 out and Oldschmidt can’t get a single run in. Pathetic. The brewers hit grand slams but these clowns just make outs. Boo them off the field.
@justinhutchins6753
@justinhutchins6753 23 дня назад
Everyone needs understand errors are part of the game
@Jeff76767
@Jeff76767 23 дня назад
Yeah, but he makes a lot of them. This isn’t little league, it’s unacceptable.
@justinhutchins6753
@justinhutchins6753 23 дня назад
@@Jeff76767 arenado have only 6 errors
@cramirez2112
@cramirez2112 23 дня назад
Does Nado do interviews postgame?
@bschaeffer12
@bschaeffer12 23 дня назад
When the situation calls for it. I don't know if any media attempted to talk to him yesterday, I wasn't there.
@3ricTehR3d
@3ricTehR3d 23 дня назад
Did oli tell gray he was done or did gray tell oli?
@bschaeffer12
@bschaeffer12 23 дня назад
Gray was laboring. Oli took him out. You guys get a little too conspiratorial on this. That's just the way baseball works. He wasn't pitching well and it was time.
@3ricTehR3d
@3ricTehR3d 23 дня назад
@@bschaeffer12 back and left. Back and left!
@justinhutchins6753
@justinhutchins6753 23 дня назад
Winn have 10 errors he leads the team with errors Gorman 9 arenado 6
@mikekeeler6362
@mikekeeler6362 23 дня назад
Is Jordan Walker a bust
@slocumb1270
@slocumb1270 23 дня назад
Yes, possibly Gorman as well. Although he did raise his avg to .190 yesterday.
@bschaeffer12
@bschaeffer12 23 дня назад
Too early to say imo
@chrisweidner4768
@chrisweidner4768 23 дня назад
@@bschaeffer12 Took Judge a while to figure it out. Hoping this holds true for Jordan/Gorman and that there’s hope.
@Jeff76767
@Jeff76767 23 дня назад
With the Cardinals, yes. He’ll succeed in another organization, though. The clowns running the Cardinals have no idea what they’re doing.
@chrisweidner4768
@chrisweidner4768 23 дня назад
@@Jeff76767 Certainly getting that vibe.
@johnwinder235
@johnwinder235 23 дня назад
Honestly, at this point. Let’s just trade Arenado/Goldschmidt for a couple of back in below average relievers. We can eat about 50% of the contract. Let’s just move on for the love of God!
@georgesouthwick7000
@georgesouthwick7000 23 дня назад
What team would want a couple of over the hill guys like Nolan and Goldy. Even if the Cardinals were willing to eat 50% of their contracts, they would still be way overpaid. The time to trade them was at the deadline a year ago when they had some significant value. For whatever reason, lately the Cardinal organization has either given up on players too early or kept them too long.
@justinhutchins6753
@justinhutchins6753 23 дня назад
Goldschmidt is the only one don’t much in tank left
@mikekeeler6362
@mikekeeler6362 23 дня назад
Carpenter is the stud on the team
@boschlosser10
@boschlosser10 23 дня назад
Carp should be a lefty hitting coach
@Jeff76767
@Jeff76767 23 дня назад
Get this fraud off the team! He’s terrible! Making over 30 mil a year to hit occasional singles and make errors. He needs to go. His time in STL has been an abject failure. Fraudenado, Oldschmidt, stormin Gorman, what an offense! Wow!
@boschlosser10
@boschlosser10 23 дня назад
How would you feel if you could of opt out.. and your POBO lied to you about building a World Series roster then see what the dodgers have done
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