Arizona Court Upholds Civil War-Era Abortion Law | The View 

If men could get pregnant, we wouldn't even have this issue.

I once had a pro-abortion Republican say to me that women will get-over losing Roe vs Wade in a year. I guess he was wrong.

The fact that Arizona republicans want to uphold a Civil War Era law just shows how far they want to take us back.

In 1868, doctors didn't know about women's health the way they knew it today!

WOMEN NEED TO TURN OUT IN THEIR LOCAL AND FEDERAL ELECTIONS!!!!!

Women need to rise up this November and say enough!

Women, don’t let Men , ESPECIALLY Republican Men, Rule YOUR Body! Vote BLUE in November, and show THEM who’s in CHARGE!

Looks like “the handmaid’s tale” is becoming reality. Talking about life imitating art.

Joy Behar to Alyssa Farah Griffin: "well tell your republican girlfriends to vote for Joe Biden this time" 😂😂🤣🤣

Trump’s come out and said the AZ ruling went too far lol but he’s said “leave it up to the states”. Can’t have it both ways

Getting rid of Roe V Wade was a big mistake the Republicans should have known better.

This couldn't have happened without corrupt judges.. get these religious fanatics out of government. Vote Blue 💙🇺🇸

We got to get these old men out of office.

I totally agree with Anna, Joy and Alyssa regarding this issue. Men have no right to dictate what we do with our bodies!

Slavery ended December 6, 1865 in the US and this law comes .. and this abortion law is from 1864 ... what is going on ?!

I hope they talk about the Republican governors denying federal funds to provide food to low-income children. Fucking crazy.

Women in the United States rise up and save our democracy

Ana was so on point about this. Please vote BLUE up and down the ballot 🌊🌊🌊💙

We weren't even a state when that law was written, how can that be used as a standard for anything?? Abortion is healthcare. Abortion protects women, babies, and families. Restore Roe. Separation of church and state. 💙🇺🇸

Love Ana. She is such a valuable contributor to the show

I am in Arizona and abortion will be added to our Constitution come November, we have enough signatures and it'll get on the ballot. I have a question for Republicans, aren't y'all tired of losing?

I always go back to what I was taught as a kid. Mind your own business. What a woman decides with her doctor, family, God (if you believe) is none of my business. And, if you really care about the poor and poverty, it is a proven fact that the only way to reduce it is to support women's rights.

I'm still trying to figure out how access to abortion is a political issue. It's medical, not political.

I am even more mat at radical progressives who voted for Jill Stein and I am saying this as a very liberal democrat. Had they voted for Hillary, the Supreme court would be filled with wonderful liberal Justices and Roe v. Wade would still be the law of the land.

Put it on the ballot, let the people decide.

I said the samething Whoopi! They are rolling back a lot of laws. You often wonder what is next! 😢😮😢

Love these Pro-Life people they wanna tell a woman what to do with there bodies, and want a woman to have a un-wanted child so its abused most likly end up in the system. They care so much about the baby but dont give 2 fucks once the baby is here.

My question is, "Why do you want to treat women like this?"

I live in AZ, I'm afraid for my wife and daughters. AG Mayes and Gov Hobbs are holding ground for Arizonans. You can't attack bodily autonomy, it won't stop at abortion. Maybe DOJ can help?

BLUE WAVE NOVEMBER 2024

Weird seeing Ana in Saras seat lol glad she gets to work with Joy and whoop at the same time for once!

Brava Ana!

Justice Alito, who wrote the Dobbs opinion, was not nominated (not appointed) by Trump, but by Bush. Trump appointed Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barrett.

It’s ironic that in many preserved old west towns here in AZ visitors are reminded that women had few options back in the 1860’s. They could marry, they could become schoolmarms or they worked in brothels…and the religious right was up in their business way back then just like they are today. #VoteBlueAZ

I wrote my congress person today and requested they revive the ERA.

Congratulations to Ruben Gallego for senator of Arizona and President Joe Biden on 4 more years. 🌊🌊💙💙🇺🇸🇺🇸

America is truly despicable.

Thanks to our wonderful Governor Whitmer and the Democratic majority here in Michigan, we fixed this last year. Removing draconian laws on the record from the 1800's. Women now have protection to make personal decisions about their bodies. As a man, this is important to me for my many, many wonder female family and friends. Move to Michigan, we have everything here including rights for women, LGBTQ+ community.

That’s a pretty crazy law, tbh.

The dilemma arose in the summer of 2022, after the U.S. Supreme Court eliminated the constitutional right to abortion and sent the power to regulate the procedure back to the states. Then-Arizona Attorney General Mark Brnovich went to court to reinstate the 1864 abortion ban, and convinced a trial court judge that the Civil War-era law should be enforced instead of the 15-week ban passed just months earlier. The consequences for reproductive health care in Arizona were instantaneous: An uncertain legal landscape led the majority of the state’s nine abortion clinics to provide intermittent services for months. The 1864 law carries with it a 2- to 5-year mandatory prison sentence for doctors who perform abortions for any reason other than saving a patient’s life, and the 2022 law punishes doctors with a class 6 felony and a revoked license. Women were cut off from potentially life-saving care as the abortion rate saw record lows that year. Whereas abortions in Arizona have consistently exceeded 13,000 since 2011, in 2022 that number plummeted to just 11,407 procedures. With two conflicting statutes on the books, uncertain doctors shutting their doors rather than risking prison time, and state officials vying over which ban to implement, Arizona courts were tasked with figuring out how to make the laws coexist. Proponents of the near-total ban argued that the 2022 law included a provision that stated it wasn’t meant to repeal any laws that came before it, signifying that the 1864 law should reign supreme. But reproductive rights advocates pushed back, pointing out that if the 1864 law wasn’t overruled by the 15-week law based on that interpretation, then neither were the numerous abortion law restrictions enacted in Arizona in the 50 years since Roe v. Wade was decided. And keeping in place laws that mandate an ultrasound, a 24-hour waiting period and an informational consultation, among other requirements, meant that abortion must be preserved to some extent. The near-total ban was brought back into play by a Pima County judge who nullified an injunction holding it at bay that was erected in 1973, under the auspices of Roe. But the Arizona Court of Appeals later ruled that the 15-week ban should supersede its predecessor, with the judges noting that if the GOP-majority legislature had intended to completely outlaw abortion, it should have been done so explicitly instead of passing what amounted to a gestational limit. Less than two months later, Alliance Defending Freedom, an anti-abortion legal firm, filed an appeal with the Arizona Supreme Court on behalf of Dr. Eric Hazelrigg, the medical director of a chain of Valley-wide anti-abortion pregnancy centers. Hazelrigg was admitted into the case to fill the role of “guardian ad litem,” representing the interests of the unborn in Arizona. The position was added in 1973 when the near-total ban was first challenged. Harmonizing the two laws In a December hearing, Alliance Defending Freedom attorney Jake Warner urged the justices to reverse the appellate court’s decision, saying that the lower court erred when it ruled to permit elective abortions up to 15 weeks under the 2022 law. Warner argued that both the 1864 near-total ban and the 15-week gestational ban outlaw all but the most life-threatening procedures. Instead, the way to harmonize the two laws is by allowing the exception baked into the 15-week law for “immediately” life-threatening situations to modify the requirements of the 1864 law, he said. Until 15 weeks, Warner explained, all abortions would be prohibited unless the mother’s life is in danger, as the 1864 law mandates. After the 15-week point, the threshold for obtaining an abortion would be raised, so that only “immediately” life-threatening emergencies would merit a procedure. A cancer patient, Warner said, is facing a life-threatening situation, but not an “immediately” dangerous prognosis, and so they would not be permitted to obtain an abortion to begin treatment. Planned Parenthood Arizona attorney Andy Gaona, meanwhile, rebutted that if the Arizona legislature truly meant to outlaw virtually all abortions, it should have made its intention clearer. GOP lawmakers in Arizona modeled the state’s 15-week ban after the Mississippi law in Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, under the assumption that the U.S. Supreme Court would uphold that law and the Arizona copy could stand. But Arizona lawmakers left out a key provision from the Mississippi law: a clause which stated that any abortion that complied with Mississippi’s 15-week law but violated any other abortion law was nonetheless illegal. Gaona pointed to that as proof that Arizona lawmakers never intended to completely ban abortion. While the courts worked through the legal parameters of abortion in Arizona, the election of pro-choice Democrats to statewide offices two years ago dampened the threat of a state ban to some degree. Gov. Katie Hobbs, who ran on a promise to protect abortion access, issued an executive order in July concentrating the prosecutorial authority for abortion law violations in the Arizona Attorney General’s office. Doing so preemptively barred any of the state’s 15 county attorneys from using Arizona’s abortion laws to take a doctor to court. At least one county attorney, Yavapai’s Dennis McGrane, who joined Hazelrigg in advocating for the 1864 law, has indicated an interest in pursuing abortion law violations. AG Kris Mayes, meanwhile, has vowed never to prosecute a single case. But the legal strength of Hobbs’ executive order has yet to be tested in court. Shortly after she issued it, county attorneys threatened to mount a legal challenge against it, though none has since materialized. Ballot initiative Reproductive rights groups are aiming to stave off threats from the court rulings and GOP-backed laws by enshrining abortion access in the state constitution this November. The Arizona Abortion Access Act would guarantee the procedure as a right up to 24 weeks of gestation, in a mirror of the standard in Roe. The act would also include an exception for procedures performed after that time if the doctor considers it necessary to safeguard the life, physical or mental health of their patient. Because it is a constitutional amendment, the initiative needs to collect 383,923 signatures to qualify for the ballot and be considered by Arizona voters. Earlier this month, the campaign announced it has gathered 500,000 signatures, and it plans to continue collecting more to ensure a buffer against signatures that are eventually thrown out during the verification process. Democrats in Arizona and across the country are counting on the abortion issue to mobilize voters and deliver wins for party candidates. Abortion access has proven to be a highly motivating concern, even in red states like Kansas, where a record number of voters showed up to reject a legislatively referred ballot measure that would have given lawmakers the power to eliminate abortion protections, and in Virgina, where voters awarded Democrats a legislative majority to defend against the anti-abortion policies of the state’s Republican governor.

So so so well said……thoughtful Americans do not allow yourself to go numb…..🤞🤞

I live in a country where we dont even have to discuss this issue nationally because we can access whatever health care we need to have abortions etc. the US is heading towards disaster as a society and as a culture - its no ones business what you do with your body end-of!

Every Woman in America needs to Vote For freedom and Democracy! Arizona has taken women back to ownership, Woman are not owned and Women are EQUAL! Vote Democracy

Crazy. It's getting scary. Separate church and state.

Vote blue and encourage everyone you know to do the same. Roe your vote in November!

Welcome to 2024 folks!

Hobbs is brave and eloquent as always. AZ has always been much more behind her than anyone knows. She deserves support.

Joy Behar to Alyssa Farah Griffin: "well tell your republican girlfriends to vote for Joe Biden this time" 😂😂🤣🤣 Joy Behar wants so many people to vote for President Joe Biden 💯

Joy interrupts and talks over people, far too much. Her opinions are no more important than anyone else’s. Why didn’t Alyssa have an opinion ?

Thank you Anna!!🙌🙌

Joy did a great job of a slap back to Alyssa- tell your republican girlfriends to vote for Democrats up and down the ballot

Go, Anna, go!

I’m lost in the insanity.

There is literally ZERO benefit in ANY man being anti abortion. Prove me wrong…

So now Alyssa thinks this is a big win for the democrats

Next: Work permits for children, like 100 and 200 years ago.

My mom said in the 50s in Canada it was illegal and you called the town doctor and he would just quietly drive out to the farms and do it at the house privately and no one talked about it, or ever mentioned it again.

PLEASE let Ann talk Joy! You keep interrupting her. They all do and Ann needs to speak and be heard. Thanks

Seems like they would be talking about the Arizona Supreme Court....

And women continue to vote Republican.......

Well said Anna 👏🏽 💯💯💯

Jill Stein. My God- the chickens are coming home to roost.

I am BLACK (YES I AM BLACK). However, I think Whoopi Goldberg is going too far when she says they are trying to bring slavery back.

The Arizona Supreme Court ruled to make abortion largely illegal in the Grand Canyon State, reinstating a 160-year-old law that forbids all procedures except those to save a woman’s life. Justice John R. Lopez IV, writing for the court in a 4-2 split decision, said that a 2022 law allowing abortions up to 15 weeks of gestation depended on the existence of a federal constitutional right to abortion. And since the U.S. Supreme Court eliminated that right in the Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization ruling two years ago, that law can’t overrule one first passed in 1864, when Arizona was a territory.

I had a missed miscarriage last summer. They refer to it as a missed abortion. The worst day of my life and one of my questions had to be "because of the terminology, does this put me at risk legally?" Absolutely absurd that it's something I had to worry about.

Murder is a social harm. If someone murders your father, mother, child or spouse there's actual damage to a family by denying that person's emotional connection-- memories, touch, smell, experiences, ect. There is a physical & economic impact from a loss of a loved one. Society's peaceful existence is disturbed when murder & violence occurs in society. Abortion is a medical procedure. Someone having an abortion has no effect on anyone else nor disturbs the function of a society. Your neighbor having an abortion has zero impact on your life. The state shouldn't have the power to force girls & women to remain pregnant against their will. What forced birth fanatics refuse to admit is that abortion is a social benefit. The research & statistics are iron clad on the benefits of abortion access & it has been for decades. All one has to do is look at the outcomes for girls & women in countries that ban abortion. Stripping bodily autonomy only hurts working class women & girls because we all know women of means will be able to travel out of state or out of the country to have their abortions. Forced pregnancy not only devastates working class women & girls' futures-- economically & socially but it will cause many women & girls to die. When countries ban abortion the poverty rate increases, child abuse rates skyrocket, child sexual exploitation increases, children end up on the black market, rates of domestic abuse increase. It's a disaster for society. There are states like Missouri that even want to criminilize going out of state for an abortion. Every person should have full autonomy which means the right to start a family when they CHOOSE to do so.

Samuel Alito wasnt appointed by donald trump, and sunny wrongly agreed he was appointed by trump blindly. whats going on ??

Did Whoopi really accuse 'them' of wanting to bring back slavery???😅😅 Most ridiculous thing I've heard her say in a while, and that's saying alot!!!

It’s amazing how much sudden clarity there is on what a woman is.

They cannot use this against Trump because he passes the issue to the state. Lol.

Bravo Ana👏🏾👏👏🏿👏🏽👏🏻

Yes Anna!!👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

2 things 1 Caring for our women is a social responsibility. 2 Do you remember the movie COMA? I am terrified of the movie Natal ICU/ organ farm.

So you have Ana Navarro and Alyssa Farah Griffin as the republicans at the table as usual talking down on republicans and talking good about the democrats

I'm sorry, but as man who has been told that this is none of my business, I will not be standing in any form of solidarity with you on this issue. Good luck to you though.

It says a lot about those who are meant to represent the welfare & will of the people when they back away from a policy not because it's dangerous to the people but, because it will hurt their chances of gaining power.

This makes me angry .....we need to stand up and fight this is disgusting......

Ana is a star, and when she's on the show, Alyssa is an unnecessary appendage

That’s all they talk about everyday - ABORTION. Enough enough. There are so many more important things to talk about.

JOY I LOVE YOU but let them rest speak 🥰

Everytime when Anna speaks she has a list of things. It seems she only speaks in lists

Where did Whoopi get “they want to bring slavery back” from?! What a joke!

This will help Trump The Salt Must Flow Liberal Tears 🧂 REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

I'm always fascinated by Anna's Accent...? So Beautiful ❤️

So if a woman’s life is en danger who is to decide when it becomes to dangerous for her to continue the pregnancy? Will it be a judge who doesn’t have any medical training? And when is she in danger? It should be the woman who should decide how far she is willing to go with the advise from her doctor.

domocrats wanted to keep slavery big whoop.

Slavery?? Really Whoopi. Let's play the race card

Two judges come up in November so we can rectify this on election day. Not all judge's voted for this back to the future 3.

To every young woman and every woman in these United States if You don't vote SHAME on You. It not all about getting rid of an wanted pregnancy it also about miscarriages. It is about getting the medical attention help you will need. I feel sorry for you young women wanting a family.

VOTE! 🗳️

The Arizona Congress will repeal this law and the next abortion law on the books is 15 weeks.

Anna needs a standing ovation 👏👏👏👏

For those of you with a rosy image on how this will go for the children that women are forced to birth. I’ve worked both in adoptions and with abused, abandoned, and neglected children. The reality is they insist the child be born and then they insist the mother keep it and raise it even if she knows she will not be a good parent and wants to give it a better life. And no there are not nearly enough services to support the mothers or children. Much of what did exist, both private and public have closed or are terribly under staffed and undersupported due to lack of funding. Needless to say, we end up with even more abused, abandoned, and neglected children. And heaven forbid the child or mother has any health care or mental health needs - thanks to our health care system insurance companies decide what medications and treatments you need, not the doctors. If you’re going to insist that you are pro-life or even anti-abortion, then support life after birth as well. And for those who are using the Bible to support their arguments then quit cherry picking, because you clearly haven’t read the New Testament. I recommend you start with the Sermon on the Mount.

"overthrowing Roe v Wade" 😂😂😂

Shame on Arizona wanting its residents, citizens and visitors, to have to follow a law that it's only 160 years old. Aren't they aware that we prefer to follow laws that are much more mature, like the 235 year laws that we so revere, the Constitution of these United States?

Did yall see the video of all of them loudly praying before this was voted on?

ennerly slammed Ford’s namesake organization for its choice not to honor Cheney, an outspoken critic of former President Donald Trump, with the Gerald R. Ford Medal for Distinguished Public Service. “A key reason Liz’s nomination was turned down was your agita about what might happen if the former president is reelected. Some of you raised the specter of being attacked by the Internal Revenue Service and losing the foundation’s tax-exempt status as retribution for selecting Liz for the award,” he wrote in the letter, which was first reported by Politico. He continued, “The historical irony was completely lost on you. Gerald Ford became president, in part, because Richard Nixon had ordered the development of an enemies list and demanded his underlings use the IRS against those listed. That’s exactly what the executive committee fears will happen if there’s a second coming of Donald Trump.“

Insane

Did I hear "Jill Stein?" Of FFS stop blaming her!

There was no exception for rape or incest because men believed (and some still do) that women invited it. Therefore, if pregnancy was the result, so be it. Sick.