@@thenamesloca I can see that, i am actually looking How James Cameron cast Arnold as the Terminator and there is another comment of yours lol "Thanks the gods it was Arnold and not O.J" Lol.
@@Th33Vultur3 True. But it was still a Terminator. Despite being reprogrammed to be John's protector, his killing initiative was never removed. He still felt the need to kill. In this case, it meant killing anyone it deemed a threat to John. In a way, John Connor had to "reprogram" the Terminator by teaching him empathy. Something the Terminator lacked.
It's especially funny when you realise he's scanning each individual and estimating the degree of trauma required to disable without killing them. I was hoping in one of the later movies you'd get a nonlethal T800 gently wrapping his arm around someone's neck and waiting for them to pass out, because scans suggested the person had some kind of blood clotting issue, and they'd bleed out before they could possibly get medical attention if he shot them. Like imagine him shooting kneecap, kneecap, pistol whip to the head, then gently grabs an older security guard and carefully holds him in a choke until the old feller passes out, then gently lays him down in the recovery position, maybe check his pulse for good measure while whoever he's escorting looks at him like he's lost whatever was left of his mind. 😁
I was 11/12 when it was released and Robin Hood ( with K Costner) was also in the movies. All girls my age were swooning over Robin Hood. I went by myself to T2 cos none of my friends would go. It had a 15s rating in Ireland and the lady at the ticket desk said i was too young so I lied and said my Dad was waiting inside for me and let me in 😂 The next week one of my friends came back from holidays and i went to see it again. We’ve loved it since
@@Mirokuofnite which eventually gave the govt the idea to create robotic limbs then from there created AI for robot police to replace humans then the cycle repeats, lol
@angelic_disappointment7889 Vicious cycle; Terminator shoots cop in legs. Robocop is born. Terminator shoots Robocop in legs. Ricochet strikes Terminator's nuclear energy battery. City blows up.
You're absolutely right, it was hopeless to see how nobody could stop him in the first movie and in the second movie it felt hopeless how he wouldn't kill those guards
@@daffyduckling6958 It would taint John's character if this Terminator murders anyone for John. Future John is responsible for sending it and child John must take command of it.
@Ivantheterrible81280 "Any number of causes for which I am prepared to die, none for which I am prepared to kill." - Gandhi. "A robot may not injure a human being or, through inaction, allow a human being to come to harm." - Isaac Asimov (the first of the three laws of robotics). 😌
actually the premise is different since t3 had adult john and a love interest as well as the fact that arnold was a t-850 instead of the regular t-800 and the enemy was a tx instead of a t-1000
@@jordanbauer740 oh come on the T-850? That’s practically no change at all. It’s a name change simple as that he does nothing a regular T800 can’t do, it’s lazy writing making out it’s building more law when it is not. And the TX? She’s a rip off of both the T800 and T1000, just over designed over complicated nonsense. It’s a Piss poor sequel. And Arnold simply did it for the almighty dollar, even Cameron said ask for as much cash as they will give you
It's so much more though. It has everything. Comedy gold moments all the way to abject horror. Can you think of a more terrifying scene in cinema history than that nuke? More relevant than ever as we continue fucking with A.I..The dramatic acting was so far off the charts too. Everyone involved. Especially Hamilton and Furlong. The guy who played Miles Dyson also killed it
@@steveguse4481 I agree with every one of your points good sir. The film is masterpiece and a rare example of a perfect film. It is literally flawless. Shame it went so down hill after.....though despite the hate I do like that Salvation tried something different at least.
What's funny is this ended up being such a good little moment. John told him not to kill anyone, not to not shoot anyone. Clearly a bit of a difference in those two as we saw. It also had the great effect of reinforcing he was a machine that didn't perceive things or think the same way as humans despite looking like one.
Probably not if you miss the femoral artery. And he got shot dead center on the kneecaps. So, yeah, he’ll never run again, but, in Arnold’s words…he’ll live. 😂
@@dusannestorovic5699 There's just no way that's true. You're almost guaranteed to hit an internal organ with a centre mass shot, most of which will be fatal without medical attention. And if the shot enters above the bottom rib you're hitting lung, heart or liver, all of which are likely to be fatal even with medical attention. Meanwhile if you hit a leg, there's a larger chance that you won't hit any of the large arteries or veins. And even if you do hit one, some of them might clot on their own.
Terminator 1 was hardcore. It caused many problems at the time and was nearly outright banned. The studio only agreed to make a sequel if it wasnt hardcore like the first film. they had to sell out to get T2 made. If i remember right ..
I wouldn't call it selling out. Both movies are extremely hardcore, and Terminator 2 upped the ante a lot. The T-1000 was a brutal killing machine who flat out stabbed people in the face with his metal arms and hands while taking their place physically. And Arnold as the T-800 is still really hardcore, he takes those cops out pretty brutally without actually killing them, which is a nice contrast to the first one where he just brutally murders them all.
“He’ll live. Granted i just shot 2 point blank 45 caliber bowling balls through his legs and he’ll never walk again, but he’ll live to tell the story”. 😂
This is what made the movie great he still remained what he was "a Terminator" but it was only due to certain circumstances that he did not knock anybody off
Terminator Salvation is the 3rd best entry in the series and T1, T2 and TS stand miles above Genesis and Dark Fate. TS is genuinely good. My only nit pick with it is the T-800 throwing John Conner about when it should have just picked him up and crushed his wind pipe. A single touch by the T-800 would be lethal.
Thats why the arrival bar scene was was wanted to be removed because he acted as though he did sworn not to kill anyone at that moment when a normal terminator would have kill just about anyone in his path.
What's not mentioned here is the real reason Arnold was upset was because he and Sylvester Stallone were trying to outdo each other with higher and higher body counts with back-to-back movies at the time.
Ironically, Arnold's T-800 character hadnt killed anyone up to the point where John made him swear not to kill people. He only brawled with the bikers to acquire his weapons and transport.
"Whenever you do a sequel, you can't just do the same story" lol I guess James Cameron must have forgotten that little nugget of wisdom when he made Dark Fate
Hey well - that scene was fucking badass anyways, actually sorta makes sense a robot would shoot the guard just to stop him without actually killing him, as robots would find the most practical, fastest way.
Clearly Jim didn't follow that opening advice when it came to the Avatar movies. The story of the sequel is superficially different, but fundamnentally it was more or less a slightly different version of the original with extra window dressing. This is why his Terminator movies are vastly superior to his Avatar movies.
I liked Alita better than Avatar, but I'm also partial to the manga and OVA like Cameron. He changed it a little, but not enough to drift away from the main concepts.
Not really. TWOW is a refugee family story and Jake isn't even the central character; Lo'ak is. The only thing that's fundamentally the same is that the RDA wants to control and plunder Pandora, no matter the cost, and features the same primary antagonist. Except, Quaritch is far more interesting this time around than the cartoonish security chief of A1; a massive improvement IMO.
What I always loved about terminator 2 is that it's one of those movies where the sequel was better than the original. Hell, you don't even have to watch the first one at all to just pick up the second one and immediately know what's going on. There's a reason they still do re-runs to this day of the second one and yet you barely, if ever, see the first!
Imagine how fun it would have been if they'd done both. Have the Terminator kill anyone who's even a slight threat to John to leave no witnesses for the T1000 to interrogate, but still have him as the "good guy."
