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Ascher Racing F64 V3 v. Cube Controls F-PRO 

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Ascher Racing recently released its third version of the F64 formula wheel. Is it worth the money compared to the F-PRO or other formula wheels?
Ascher Racing F64 V3 unboxing: • Unboxing Ascher Racing...
My Ascher Racing F64 V3 is for sale. It's too expensive of wall art for me! Let me know if you are interested in buying.
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@IntenseCrazyHarmony
@IntenseCrazyHarmony Год назад
Great review. I'm on the lookout for a new wheel, so I really appreciate the effort (and expense) you went through to make this video. I hope you'll be able to check the new ascher wheels, once they become available, they look really interesting.
@thoritissimgarage1482
@thoritissimgarage1482 Год назад
Thank you for the kind words. I saw some of the wheels Ascher intends on release via youtube videos of the sim racing expo last month. Yes, they do look interesting. The channels that covered the sim expo showed some really interesting equipment from a bunch of manufacturers. I'd love to try out any and all wheels but the $$$ is not in the budget. :)
@nonamehere6535
@nonamehere6535 4 месяца назад
This is great information. It will definitely help me make a well-educated decision.
@heikogehrig
@heikogehrig Год назад
Had to log in after watching on Apple TV and say GREAT video! Perfect summary and the help I needed for my decision. I have a question though, any idea if the F-Pro is "CE" compliant or "ROHS compliant" (for the US)? The logos should be printed somewhere on the box or wheel. Important for me for customs acceptance where I live.
@thoritissimgarage1482
@thoritissimgarage1482 Год назад
Thank you very much! I checked the box and it shows "CE." Don't forget to subscribe! 🤣
@Leynad778
@Leynad778 Год назад
It's always better to have a spare-wheel around in case your main wheel is causing issues, but the Ascher is certainly too costly to keep just for that purpose. My tip would be the Volante SRC Radical for about half the price, but I would ask for the smooth leather or rubber version of the rim. I bought the rim (smooth leather) for my old Ascher buttonplate that was unemployed for some time. It had three issues after I bought it in 2017 and got even a new USB-cable for free in 2021, so the support is certainly on the plus-side regarding Ascher. I also own an Ascher F28-SC v1 and no issues with that wheel, but I wasn't using it that much because the grips are too skinny for my hands. I've designed new grips for it that also increases the diameter to 300 mm. Recently I found the perfect print-material for the grips that provide better grip, better dampening and a decent look as well. So now I'm using it more often than ever before😀
@thoritissimgarage1482
@thoritissimgarage1482 Год назад
Agreed, the F64 is way too expensive as a backup wheel or for wall art. :) The Volante SRC Radical you mentioned looks nice and the price seems reasonable. I'm trying to sell my F64 on Facebook but nobody has shown any interest.
@malgrif091
@malgrif091 8 месяцев назад
Thanks for the review, you gave me the confidence to buy the f-pro over the f64.
@thoritissimgarage1482
@thoritissimgarage1482 8 месяцев назад
You are welcome! Glad I could help!
@Foppalainen82
@Foppalainen82 4 месяца назад
Great review! 👍 However I think at this price point it becomes more of a subjective preference. I was almost certain I was going for the F-Pro until I actually got to try both of the wheels. The F-Pro feels cheap compared to Ascher. The shifters are good but not on par with Ascher imo. The LEDs are to me more of a distraction and make the wheel look like a video-game toy. The thumb encoders are properly placed on F-Pro, but their feeling is not. Anyway as mentioned when you get to this price it becomes more about preferences. Both wheels are great! I went with the wireless Ascher-version so none of the USB issues with sticky cable or difficulty mounting.
@thoritissimgarage1482
@thoritissimgarage1482 4 месяца назад
Thank you for posting a comment. All opinions matter for sure and mine is just one. The most important thing is that you like whatever wheel you race with!
@Foppalainen82
@Foppalainen82 4 месяца назад
@@thoritissimgarage1482 Agreed! I still like your review even if my preference is towards ascher. Subscribed :)
@OhItsThat
@OhItsThat Год назад
Great comparison. I got my F-Pro last summer for use with modern open wheel cars. It’s a beautiful wheel but I barley use it. Mostly cause I just don’t drive cars with paddle shifters anymore but secondly because of the grip material. It’s just too slippery and hard for me. I really enjoy soft alcantera and suede wrapped wheels like the Momos and Personal wheels I mainly use. Ive been wearing gloves since I started sim racing in 2016 and I can’t wear my preferred Sparco gloves while using the F-Pro. My hands can’t get a firm grip. I seriously only have maybe two hours total use on that wheel. I won’t lie, the main reason I bought it was for all the cool RGBz and it doesn’t disappoint there. I also have a Suede CubeControls GT Pro Zero wifi that I use for modern GT and prototypes on the rare occasion I drive those kinds of cars. I love the feel of that wheel but it’s backlit buttons don’t compare to the new CubeControls RGB buttons now. I did see there’s a new GT Pro Zero coming with the new RGBz and magnetic charging cable. I’ll probably sell both and get one of those in suede and call it good. I only need one wheel with paddle shifters.
@thoritissimgarage1482
@thoritissimgarage1482 Год назад
Thank you! I can appreciate what you say. I use the Sparco sim gloves myself. I prefer alcantara grips, not because I get a better grip from them; rather, I like they way they feel. I can get a good grip on F-PRO without much effort. Currently, I use the F-PRO for all cars: formula, GT, and Nascar because I don't have it in the budget to buy an oval/d-shaped wheel. As you know, sim racing can get crazy expensive when you have to actually buy the stuff! I would only use the F-PRO with formula car if I had my choice. I'm certainly keeping my eye out for a new oval/d-shaped wheel with LEDs. And I really like the magnetic charging/USB cable on the cube controls, so if they release a new wheel oval wheel with alcantar, LEDs, and magnetic cable, it will likely be on the top of my list. I don't really care for LCD displays on a wheel because I never look down that far in my GT style seating position. They look nice, but kinda useless for me. If I had a F1 laydown type cockpit then maybe the LCD would have some use. As far as shifters, I almost always use a paddle shifter because I really don't like the Fanatec H-pattern shifter I have. I miss a lot of shifts with it in h-pattern mode. I'd like to be true to the shifting mechanism a car actually uses in real life, i.e. paddel, h-pattern, sequential, in real life, but after owning the Fanatec for years and not liking it that much I limit its use to oval Nascar truck races wherein I don't have to shift much. There are some really nice looking shifters out there per other RU-vid channel reviews, but the prices are too high for me. I've been trying to sell my Ascher Racing F64 V3 wheel in the video ($1K wall art is ridiculous to me so it was a joke in the video), but haven't had much interest. One person offered me $400 and I couldn't emotionally come to sell it that cheap, so it remains wall art.
@OhItsThat
@OhItsThat Год назад
@@thoritissimgarage1482 l’m the same way. If a car uses a formula style wheel with paddles thats what I use on the sim. Round wheel with an H-pattern or floor sequential that’s what I’ll use. I went through the Thrustmaster TH8A shifter and two Fanatec shifters before I got my ProSim H-Pattern in 2020. Crazy expensive but worth it if you prefer manual gear box cars. For Sports cars with a floor sequential I use a Jinx SQ and for open wheel cars with sequential I use a Heusinkveld SQ although I prefer the AioLogs SQ.
@thoritissimgarage1482
@thoritissimgarage1482 Год назад
@@OhItsThat I watched your rig setup video and it was a joy to watch! Your setup is impressive to say the least. Your shifter and how they are setup is now my gold standard!
@OhItsThat
@OhItsThat Год назад
@@thoritissimgarage1482 Thanks man. It’s been more then a few years in the making. Been through lots of different hardware and hardware configurations before finding exactly what I like and how I want it set up.
@dangerousmike8768
@dangerousmike8768 Год назад
​@@OhItsThat when Will be release new gt pro zero ?
@montecar-low930
@montecar-low930 Год назад
What do you think is the best wheel for touring car style of racing.ive been looking on the market but I can't find anything that I really like. Great video and I just subscribed
@thoritissimgarage1482
@thoritissimgarage1482 Год назад
Thank you! I guess it depends on a few things. What wheelbase do you have? How much money do you want to spend? Do you want an oval/D shaped wheel rim or half wheel rim?
@FlameBot
@FlameBot Год назад
How does the 4 rotary buttons (red, blue, 2x black) in the middle of the Cube control act? Will they remember their last position in the game or are the four only for increasing / decreasing a "value". Hard to describe.
@thoritissimgarage1482
@thoritissimgarage1482 Год назад
I understand what you are asking. No, the Cube Controls' rotary buttons do not remember positions. I can't exactly remember at the moment, but the F64 rotaries might be capable of that?
@leonardo_G
@leonardo_G Год назад
Good question, my Fanatec F1 has the rotaries, and they Remember the position. If you set the TC to 9 in game and 9 as position in Rotary It works because each position of Rotary can be set as a button. Probably the F64 can do It because I see the numbers 1 to 12. I think Is very important in order to do not make mistakes during a race
@thoritissimgarage1482
@thoritissimgarage1482 Год назад
@@leonardo_G I think it is the wheel software that is keeping track of the position, not the pysical rotary button, but I could be wrong
@RacingWithChuck27
@RacingWithChuck27 Месяц назад
Did you or do you have trouble calibrating the clutch paddles. I heard that before and why I didn’t buy this cube control last year. Thanks
@thoritissimgarage1482
@thoritissimgarage1482 Месяц назад
Yep, sure did. Thanks for the comment. Took me a moment to remember that far back!
@RacingWithChuck27
@RacingWithChuck27 Месяц назад
@@thoritissimgarage1482 how was the issue resolved or is it hit or miss. I have a few cars I do standing starts
@thoritissimgarage1482
@thoritissimgarage1482 Месяц назад
@@RacingWithChuck27 Can't remember, but I remember selling the wheel which made me happy.
@SpartanA31xx
@SpartanA31xx 4 месяца назад
Is that FPRO at the bottom a sticker or does it come from factory applied?
@thoritissimgarage1482
@thoritissimgarage1482 4 месяца назад
Comes applied from the factory.
@grayzedynamics
@grayzedynamics Год назад
How do the grips compare? I have the F-Pro and the grips are very hard.
@thoritissimgarage1482
@thoritissimgarage1482 Год назад
Hardness is about the same for the F64. Using my trusty durometer, the F64 read 57 and the F-PRO 56.
@emde174
@emde174 Год назад
I thought I was the only one who wanted them too be a bit softer. Do any of you have a issue with calibration of the fpro clutches calibration being thrown slightly out due to the magnets in the quick connect?
@thoritissimgarage1482
@thoritissimgarage1482 Год назад
@@emde174 I haven't noticed any issue. The poles of the magnets (North/South) are not orientated in a way that it should affect the hall sensor. Hall sensors really only detect North/South poles (the magnetic pull) and not the entire magnetic field according to my understanding. Nevertheless, if in fact the magnets in the quick connect are possibly affecting the clutch hall sensor, the calibration should correct the issue if you calibrate with the quick connect plugged in. If you are using Bluetooth, leave the quick connect disconnected then calibrate. Vice versa if you are using USB. Thanks for comment!
@grayzedynamics
@grayzedynamics Год назад
@@thoritissimgarage1482 thank you. Then my new wheel will be much softer. Thanks again.
@grayzedynamics
@grayzedynamics Год назад
@@emde174 I do not have issues. Although I have to launch the software each time lately or the dual clutches won't work properly.
@schiedinator8074
@schiedinator8074 Год назад
Could you also review the new vrs formula wheel?
@thoritissimgarage1482
@thoritissimgarage1482 Год назад
I would if they sent me one. They cost ~$1K.
@michalmikus2103
@michalmikus2103 Год назад
Hi mate, its F-pro also good for GT cars?
@thoritissimgarage1482
@thoritissimgarage1482 Год назад
Absolutely! I use it for GT cars all the time.
@michalmikus2103
@michalmikus2103 Год назад
@@thoritissimgarage1482 thank you
@tylerljohnson
@tylerljohnson 8 месяцев назад
consider disabling autofocus when the shot doesn't require it, just a thought friend.
@thoritissimgarage1482
@thoritissimgarage1482 8 месяцев назад
Thank you for the tip! I eventually figured it out in other videos.
@tylerljohnson
@tylerljohnson 8 месяцев назад
@@thoritissimgarage1482 I watched more of your newer vids, good stuff for sure, nice job, I've been really enjoying it
@vongerchin6725
@vongerchin6725 Год назад
Click on title of CubeSet you can drag it...
@thoritissimgarage1482
@thoritissimgarage1482 Год назад
I will try this later when I have the time. If it works, I will bow to you sir!
@thoritissimgarage1482
@thoritissimgarage1482 Год назад
Sorry still doesn't work :(
@vongerchin6725
@vongerchin6725 Год назад
@@thoritissimgarage1482 weird, works for me :)
@thoritissimgarage1482
@thoritissimgarage1482 Год назад
@@vongerchin6725 I belive you. It's weird for sure!
@Yung_Goudaa
@Yung_Goudaa Год назад
I'll buy that ascher racing wheel if you don't want it...
@thoritissimgarage1482
@thoritissimgarage1482 Год назад
Sorry, already sold.
@KHMR1SNV
@KHMR1SNV Год назад
Easily Ascher.. There shouldn't even be a comparison.
@thoritissimgarage1482
@thoritissimgarage1482 Год назад
😂
@chrisperry5244
@chrisperry5244 Год назад
#fanboy 🤣
@KHMR1SNV
@KHMR1SNV Год назад
@@chrisperry5244 Nah not even close to being a fan boy I'm just not gonna buy the shitty products Cube Controls sell over good products others sell. So before you go calling people "fanboys" for saying there shouldn't be a comparison, go and buy a Cube Controls wheel for 800-1300 pounds/euro/dollars and let it have a tonne of issues and tell me you shouldn't have bought from another company.
@craigmathews6836
@craigmathews6836 Год назад
Great video 👍 still undecided though. Recently saw the new Ascher racing McLaren wheel that’s due out this year which is stunning. Just subscribed to your channel though 👍
@thoritissimgarage1482
@thoritissimgarage1482 Год назад
Thank you! If it were me, I'd wait for the new Ascher McLarens to come out. They do look stunning. I'm sure the bigger channels will all review them, so we'll have some good info to go off of.
@craigmathews6836
@craigmathews6836 Год назад
@@thoritissimgarage1482 I think the McLaren wheel will be the choice but need to know if it will be compatible with my Simagic M10 wheelbase? Look forward to more of your videos. Keep up the great work. 👍
@thoritissimgarage1482
@thoritissimgarage1482 Год назад
@@craigmathews6836 According to Barry, Simagic makes an adapter so it shouldn't be a problem? ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-mbY6Wqt9hhM.html Thank you again for the kind words!
@craigmathews6836
@craigmathews6836 Год назад
@@thoritissimgarage1482 that’s great news! Thank you very much for the information, I really appreciate it. I better start saving. Lol
@thoritissimgarage1482
@thoritissimgarage1482 Год назад
@@craigmathews6836 LOL (saving)...me too!
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