Ashes of Creation Combat Everything Known and WHY it is BETTER than you THINK! 

Having played Tab primarily in MMOs since first MMO, I approve. All I would suggest is that they include collision effects. In DAoC, the arrows and the strongest ranged spells (bolts) were all treated as objects subject to collision. This meant they could be blocked, both by RNG and by someone literally blocking the shot by getting in the way. Made it basically pointless to shoot at a guy with a shield, or target a squishy in the middle of a group. Greatly increased combat.

Thank you for clearing this up!

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Just started following AoC, having played Wow and before that Everquest. These guys have thought out most of their MMO systems and you can tell their past exp with MMOs with the decisions they made. But the biggest letdown so far with this game is the tab targeting for me. Next gen MMO like this should of really adopted a Dark Souls, Elden Ring type system. Tab targeting can be interesting, and engaging depending on the mobs IQ/abilities/tactics, so hopefully they get that piece right.

Great analysis. Earned a sub!

Great video my dude! =)

Tab with cleaves is peak MMO combat and nothing will ever change my mind about it 💅

Good. Tab targeting works. 😊

You make good points, TY for posting. Main point (for me) is to agree that so much goes into the combat system of an MMO, design for tab or action really is only one part of the overall play-feel. The potential for AoC is palpable. And yet, no evaluation makes sense without hands-on experience -- specifically my own hands.

Very informative video, my guy. Great work.

love me some tab combat

Yep, tactical/strategic verse twitchy. Seems the more twitchy the less tactical, though that doesn't have to be the case. Anyway, there's really so much that many don't do that I consider a must in TAB or 'action' PvP, like panning the camera to see if more are adding as you fight. You have to be dialed in on how to fight and tactics based on opponent classes to pull off looking around as you fight. And, of course, no matter how the combat is there are always those who just hit the tank and rarely go for healers/squishies... especially angering when they are range class. Basically, TAB or action doesn't matter when you make poor tactical decisions. And there's always 'twitch' involved as the combat unfolds: positioning/new possible targets/how to survive or peel/etc., all have to be quickly considered and acted on to gain an edge or switch to a more defensive stance. Too many just want to spam and blame loses on 'lack of healing'.

This makes me even more sad that new world ended up being so trash. I really like the fact that everything was skill shot based ESPECIALLY for pvp.

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Thanks!

Action camera has a hard lock. You won't miss your shot. It's look at the target and right click or enter cursor mode, point at target and left click. Almost identical mechanics to ESO and no one calls that tab.

You forgot Crafting your build, It takes a lot of skill to recognize what your own strengts and weaknesses are for the character your playing, and emphasise your strengts and nullify your weaknesses.

Excellent video. I'm quite excited to play AoC for 30 days before quitting the game when it releases in 2028!

Yeah, sadly like with many things Steven kinda confused people with his speaking skill selling mostly normal tab-target as something special, I do not know Tab-target MMO which doesn't have some additional templates, AoE, cone, radial or other specific type of skill.

Autumn is coming.

Is there 1st person in AOC?? All I've seen is 3rd person prespective?

Passive dodge like in Daoc. I hate New worlds dodge,dodge roll dodge roll...and on and on and on.

Merci !

Weird video. Having played both quite a bit, I'd say tab has a much higher skill cap, but a lot of that depends on the class tools you are given. Action is definitely more accessible for new players. There's a reason it is called Button Smashing or Hack-n-Slash.

Lol it really felt like you talked up tab target difficulty. LoS and CC chaining. Every class has their 1 CC everyone call out target in 3’s. Rotate CC’s on healer. Cooooool

Tab just works better.

That's cool with me but with tab target and with the PvP anyone might make it an extremely successful very niche type of game and maybe not enough people will play it. i cant see gen z playing it at all which is a win in many ways but not really

Action combat will be every time more skilled because you are the reason if you miss or hit. Evasion and the fact that you can lock a spell and it touch every time the enemy it's just RNG + assisted gameplay. You make strategies and think about spells, when you hit CC and burst windows, do min maxing too or watch ability animations. Everything you do with tab, you do in action too, but you do even more. Facts are Tab is more easy aka unskilled but there is obviously still skill expression. I hope it will at least help the game attract more ppl and E-girls. It's sad to not have more action combat on AoC, but imo I will still play it.

AOC is doa...the most popular mmos are action combat mmos.

0:10 "its tab" sweet dont need to watch the rest of the video. AoC hasnt been looking promising at all and this seals the deal for me. lol back to BDO since no developers can make a good mmo anymore it seems. that sucks

2:20 that is untrue

brother u are gonna be 60 when (if) this game even releases stop being cringe and making content about a game that were not gonna play in the next 101 years, find another niche this is too cringe