Asmongold Reacts To The History of Classic WoW (2007-2019) - Documentary By Punkrat 

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“This guy changed lives” I’ve never agreed with McConnell more.

I can confirm NOSTALRIUS was 1000x better than, not only any other Vanilla server but, any private or retail server period. I remember on my 5th day someone was trying to do DDOS and we all got DC'd. I tried to log back in and it said I was # 2340 in queue < 1 minute. Within a few seconds 16 000 people were back online. The best part was we were still in our groups and were able to continue our instance.

For me its the class Design. I love right now in Classic to mix specs and have the same set of skills, but different talents with different builds. Spell hunter, 3 min Mage etc all possible. Now its all seperated and streamlined.

Thank God here is my daily dose. I'm so addicted

It was Mediv himself descended himself and save azeroth

The problem is that Blizzard focuses too much on the endgame. That should NOT be where all the story is located. Add to that the increased focus on being "THE HERO!" of the game instead of just another adventurer reinforced the sense of isolation players feel in retail now.

"targeting the most mentally deficient players" lmaooooo

Flying just made world pvp more optional.

omfg he slammed his head on the keyboard lol i died

LFG was very good in TBC where it was server restricted and did not teleport you to the instance, it just eliminated the chat spamming, in my opinion the cross server part of LFD/LFR ruined the game. Edit: another wow killer was class homogenization indeed and also eliminating the need for professions

Why do classic players dislike LFR, when classic raids and LFR have the same difficulty?

I am hoping, some how some way, that 9.0 looks a hell of a lot more like wow 2 and a lot less like bfa 2. Classic is great, having fun with it, but I wish it didn't have to exist. I wish the game could have kept its roots and added new content. I don't want to have to play 2 different games and I know where one of them ends :(. I don't think anyone wanted there to have to be a "classic" wow or private servers. As far as LFD vs LFR, its definitely LFR. Raiding should be hard and premium content imo. It should have the best loot and require the most teamwork and be something you aspire to do. LFR makes it insignificant, rewards mediocrity and promotes toxicity imo. When guilds who raid have problems or challenges they have to work things out because its your team, your squad and you have to figure it out together. LFR sort of bypasses all that. I think its one of the worst features, not necessarily the worst idea, but the worst implementations. LFR + boring class design + rng forging is what is hurting retail the most. The current version of the game has a lot of good stuff in it too, but its all overshadowed by the core progression systems and bad design decisions. I do think though there is room for people who do not have time to raid, they need things to do also. I think mythic+, the new visions stuff (things like the mage tower) and pvp progression can all fill these players needs. I think warmode is also something that could be expanded upon and it gives people a reason to be out in the world again and not just sitting around waiting for a que to pop. Get rid of world quests and make some world events. Bring back the sandbox.

STONE COLD GOLD

Best part of this video is the gnome attempting to hide the bald naked dancing man through out the video.

My answer to the question at 11:55 : Three things: 1. The obvious one. LFD/LFR, for the reasons that you felt no attachment to the groups you made, as you no longer had to put in the effort to advertise. So there was no will to stay in a group that was struggling, nor create bonds with the players you shared the dungeon/raid experience with. 2. The server merges of mid Cataclysm. I was on an RP server (Steamwheedle Cartel EU) from vanilla to Cata, and we had created our own community within that server, with its own lore, famous guilds and players, and memorable moments. As soon as SWC was merged with Argent Dawn, Moonglade and Earthen Ring, it created a vacuum of community, and the bonds that allowed new players to access the community were lost, essentially starting the process of creating a community from scratch all over again. It was at this point it felt to a lot of people like we were not even playing the same game anymore, when you include the major engine and world changes that Cata brought. 3. XP acceleration of earlier content. Blizzard's marketing angle became about joining your friends at max level to do raids, and they found a lot of new players dropped off in the level grind. However, but making early zones easier to rush through, they were in effect fast forwarding 90+% of the content, to allow players to get to endgame faster. By speeding up the process, as well as the simplifying of quests in Azeroth, they accidentally turned 1-60 into a tedious obstacle rather than an adventure to experience. You levelled too quickly to become attached to your character and his equipment, or care about improvements you made, but because it was no longer challenging, it removed the fun, turning the levelling process into a painful period you had to "get through" to get to the fun content. Those three things are what made my rose-tinted glasses stop working, and start seeing the game for the flawed, poorly-designed mess it had become. RIP

I think flying was tbh good. You still get flying at high lvl so it doesn't destroy world pvp. Not even in outlands it wasn't that bad as people say. Flying was never an issue for world pvp it was tbh a good thing that prevented from being ganked over and over. It was a good thing that you can escape annoying players that want to gank you for 30mins and above. My favorite was cata but wasn't fan of dungeon finder

Exactly how I feel. Certainly times I want to grind through a few quests, but also times I'd rather just no-brain grind a dungeon n kill everything. Depends on my mood, how much time I have, etc.

I spent huge amount of time doing pvp in Nagrand. It was endless kill & be killed.

9:05 that's a fact. Wrath is my expansion because of the cool new talents and certain new abilities. However the leveling was extremely easy. Not to mention, combined with LFD it made things a breeze to go through

Cataclysm did make questing easier,but remember that they did make 5man dungeons very hard to appease all of us vanilla players. The people who came in during tbc or wotlk couldn't handle it.

32:45 - tbc boost and collector edition and ignoring bots - check

04:40 daily quests when you can spend the whole time doing them, rarely if ever managing to finish all, until expansions add more and make it impossible, but ultimately too much if one can only do those and reach max level, while ignoring all quests etc. which was something in Dragons Prophet, yet nobody fully enjoys being max level with beginner quests, unless it was well orchestrated like being the protagonist in the Overlord manga/anime.

30:56 I couldn’t stop laughing 😂

I agree with Asmon. "open world PVPers" wait for you to engage a mob before the attack you. preferably an elite. Sooo...since you can't fly when engaged in combat, that's not what killed WPVP.

I mean. until late game, BDO did have quests and a storyline you wanted to complete in order to get bag space and money. The only time you outright skipped all of that is if you had a higher lvl char that you could buy big gear for your new toon and then grinding was much much faster

Cataclysm is where it started becoming easily dumb for me. I could get the equivalent of Wotlk t10 through dungeons which made any noob good in pvp with them. It was no longer rewarding to get gear and it only got worse.

I like how Asmon can be reasonable in spite of his pond-life chat. He can shit on a corporation all he wants, but at least he defends the people around WoW. Good on him.

Asmon being bald in the Baldicus pictures actually looks good

LFD is honestly fine imo, the feeling of walking across the world with your bois to go and kill some Zealots is awesome, but at the end of the day LFD is pretty okay. But LFR is awful, raids should feel amazing, with your and your guildmates going to take down a massive threat to your faction as a whole. Not just popping in a queue with a bunch of random people with 40% of them afk.

Biggest single bad decision Blizzard ever made? I'd say not knowing what they wanted. For example, we had four tiers of raids in WotLK at one point. Class design had to account for all those various tiers, along with loot and other sub systems. It created a mess and showed us a splintering of vision for the game. The devs obviously wanted to make raids more accessible while also trying to retain hard raids but wanted to reuse the content to save time. No one would of cared if say Naxx was the easy raid and Obsidian Sanctum was the hard raid, and each tier had a choice between the two. Trying to have their cake and eat it to let to many problems down the line and it's reverberations are still being felt in the community to this day. It led to LFR and LRD, titanforging, and random gambling tertiary stats on gear.

SWG ( Star Wars Galaxies) was run into the ground with gameplay change after change no matter what community said 1mil + players not wanting them. that guy killed a great game

I feel like Punkrat hasn't actually played most of these expansions when they were live, and that most of his explanations are from hearsay, not actual experience. Theres a severe lack of context given in his explanations and descriptions, not to mention sweeping generalizations. If the expansion overview part was meant to actually be informative, it was anything but.

29:41 Global time played - 64 centuries. Holy balls

Fuck, when they mentioned SWG my heart just sunk as all those memories came rushing back... I was as addicted to SWG as Asmon was to WoW. I fucking started grinding Jedi in the Holocron age, then got fucked when the Village completely revamped how to get Jedi, and then had my Jedi character get completely nerfed to the ground with the Combat Upgrade and FINALLY they invalidated ALL my years of hard work with letting anyone get Jedi by making it a default starting class. I have never felt so personally targeted and fucked over by any other video game I have ever played. I ended up with 4 characters, the rarest items in the game such as pre-CU Mando armor + Jetpack & Nightsister stuff, hundreds of millions of credits, multiple houses & resource extractors... fuck the list just goes on and on. I finally quit when the NGE "expansion" hit and actually managed to sell my account on eBay for a cool $1200 back when you could still legally sell game accounts on eBay.

crossrealm is worse than lfr/lfd combined. lfr/lfd wouldnt be so community destroying, if you only grouped with people from your realm.

Claiming LFR was the worst decision blizzard made is elitist and flat out incorrect and I’ll give my view as to why. I played through classic - mists and have been on a WOTLK private server Warmane - lordaeron with increased raid difficulty on and off for the last 2 years. LFR was a great addition for the majority of the mid ranged player base. I worked self employed and had a very active social life that really limited my time on the game; so being able to experience raiding content without at an easier rate with lower statted with items was great. Why don’t people like it? - Majority of such vocal haters was losing their sense of superiority over the lower player base. The people who spend day in day out on the game, with perhaps no job and clearly no social life wanted the one area of their life to feel on top. People getting enjoyment out of something that they feel they weren’t allowed to experience was apparently unacceptable. A lot of people it was not due to lack of skill to get into raiding but lack of time - me being one. Now I have more time due to Uk lockdown, I can raid again on the private server and it’s great doing it with a guild. I can think of MANY more things off the top of the head that have been far more destructive to the game: Cash shop & Garrisons. Also LFR raiding was an absolute mess and shitshow with very few people knowing what they were doing so I do not think of it in any way better than regular raiding, just a welcome alternative.

Not gonna lie, when the random dungeons happened in Wrath vs me having to flight path to hit all my dungeons I was pretty damn happy :D I was too young to understand what had happened though historically in wow and how casual it became. I just thought it was nice and easier. Then as I progressed I started to realize “Hey this guy just started and already seems to have caught me in gearing…”

All hail Lord Baldicus

I love this awesome ty for bringing back my favorite game

Oh my fuckin goooodd!!! LMFAO!!!!Lord Baldicus! Jesus Christ that is priceless. Well played. I love how you're noticed in most videoes. Good content man.

Nah McConnell was right here. Asmon just wants to be the guy that made Classic a thing and is mad everyone says it's the hoodie kid

You have come so far but your content has always been great!

I feel like dungeon finder was the beginning of the end imo. I was a Prot pally main back in Wrath and my favorite thing to do was log on and post in trade "Tank LFG daily heroic for bagdes pst g2g" and have a group ready instantly, especially when the patch came out that introduced those 3 new side dungeons in ICC, Forge of souls, pit of saron, and I can't remember the 3rd but the one where Arthas chases you. Those 3 dungeons were very hard on heroic when they launched and I remember seeing tons of ppl looking for tanks and healers bc ppl were having so much trouble. I just feel like once dungeon finder was added the socialness of WoW died, now all trade chat is is gold spamming and political BS

Go back to any video with Jay and asmon always talks about how his hair has grayed

Anybody else was watching this video while playing classic WoW with their hood on?

Thanks Old School RuneScape for showing what’s possible

18:23 its the ghost of retails past

If you liked nostalrius you’ll like i think its either called lightbringer or lightshope and theres another server thats attempting to enchance the rpg elements of vanilla called turtlewow

So glad they put Turdeau in this video to represent smiley corrupt!

Well that dream didn't last long, Blizz is introducing cash shop to classic

I played cataclysm all alone with no RL friends, did raids and dungeons and didnt need to connect with anyone. Didnt even have a guild. Still i could do all the content and i hated it

SWG was ridiculous at launch, the process of becoming a Jedi was so time consuming and the game was rampant with bugs! I remember that when you entered ANY town, the bar was the most popular spot in town. People made entire characters that were used for nothing but the buffs they could imbue on other players, they would be encircled by a gaggle of players and throwing money at the dancer for buffs...

There were less people who wanted it in Legion because we were already on Pservers.

world pvp was still alive until WoD

@asmongold now most payed out server is firestorm. People mostly call it bugstorm.

making the rogue class. xD

I didn't like dailies after a while because they incentivize you to do them everyday and I found myself logging on just to do those quests and nothing else. I didn't have time or will to play everyday but I would force myself to logon real quick before bed to try to complete the quests.

Praise be to Lord Baldicus. And Mark Kern. Mostly Mark Kern.

Anyone else never play wow or plan to but sit and watch this guy watching videos on it? 🤦🏼‍♂️😂

Stupid question but did his voice change or did he get a better mic ?

I wonder where Punkrat went?

I'm really incredulous as to how someone wouldn't find that clip of the dog as one of the cutest and most wholesomely adorable things ever witnessed by mere mortals

I want to see you 5 box and only grind mobs or going to dungeons with them!!!

Legion was at least better then > Cata,WoD,MoP,Bfa

dcuo survived for a long time with their version of lfr. js

14 did raid finder right

A glorious stream it was

Biggest mistake was himogenising classes so they lost their identities and alternative emergent playstyles such as twinks were shot down

flying killed exploration

Asmon making fun of someone elses hair lmfao!!!

21:40 SHUT HIM DOWN BOYS

Looking for raid, sharding , and BFA

I love LFD 🤷‍♂️ I hated searching for groups tbh

Bro asmorgrify though😂😂😂😂 Iykyk

“Flying killed world pvp” I disagree it just stopped ganking, if you wanted to world pvp you still could it just meant people who just wanted to play the game being murdered by some asshole forsaken rogue could fly instead of dealing with bullshit.

Asmongold! Please everyone like! I found a sens fortress glitch that needs exploration! I have videos and everything and it’s really hard to explain in words. But you end up under the bridge of sen and you can go through the walls. I saw where the boulders roll around and I see this were white tower that I’m unsure if it’s part of the game.

World PvP killed World PvP, cuz it's terrible so much people don't wanna deal with it.

Blizzard just need to market their stuff like they used to. WOTLK was advertised on UK TV and the sides of busses. Never seen it done since.

CZ - KRONOS

Flying 100% killed world pvp, cant pvp in the air

Son is reacting to a video he reacted to. Inception is here

10/10..also MCcuck

Only Neckbeards like Asmon cry about LFR, EVERYONE cried about titanforging, so that was the bigger problem.

Sterile setting BGs was far more ruinous to world PvP.

?? You couldn’t even buy flying until you hit 70, world pvp was popping throughout the expansion in tbc 😂 tf is he going on about

HAIL LORD BALDICUS!

pure gold

33:08 i need this picture, does anyone know a name or put it in my thread thx

best fucking wow video ever lol ive laughed like 30times during this

LFR wasn't a bad design decision. It gave people like me who didn't have the dedicated time to find raiding guilds access to content. This hyperfocusing on LFR and LFG systems is dumb.

played wow for bit and most servers are horde majority

stopped playing at the end of TBC, I still miss the leveling in vanilla, and I loved TBC.

who was the butcher guy?

The biggest single error; was arenas (leading to homogenisation of classes). LFR is fine because it can be ignored completely by those that have a guild or friends (I haven't run one for years but I wouldn't knock those that do). For Punkrat to indirectly put the boot into Panser makes him even more of a twat. Asmon's comments were spot on.

Punkrat is honestly self-aware that Asmon reacts to his videos, and purposefully designs them toward Asmon's audience.

i liked wotlk 3.3.5 was the best patch

Arena's were the biggest mistake in WoW. Don't believe me? Look up the interview with Rob Pardo.

Classic wasn`t hard. The only difference is the player. Now players are experienced, now almost everyone has internet. Just think about it.

BGs killed wpvp, deal with it