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Assassin's Creed Empire Multiplayer: 5 Things Empire MP Needs To Do To Go MLG | Thoughtful Episode 7 

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Zen's in the house, watch your mouth. Saved it. Will Assassin's Creed Multiplayer ever go MLG if it returned? Not if it's like past multiplayers. 5 things Assassin's Creed Empire Multiplayer needs to do in order to help AC become an Esports MLG title. No background music on this one, I had a bit of a headache and didn't want to stuff around listening to a lot of different instrumentals.
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@andreaferrarini1988
@andreaferrarini1988 7 лет назад
I think the most important issue on ACMP is the fact that it's empty.Because of this ubisoft did no longer care of servers in the past,and that's really frustrating for that bunch of people who still want to enjoy the game.Even if acb will remain the best ac multi ever(and no more multigames will be made with its mechanics),It's necessary to bring something fresh and new to get a very big and long lasting community such as cod or destiny
@Zeniithe
@Zeniithe 7 лет назад
Mediocre_ Mousse If AC had a huge following and there were 20 million people playing it, I think Ubisoft would step up and make an effort to make esports work for AC.
@andreaferrarini1988
@andreaferrarini1988 7 лет назад
Zeniithe indeed :/
@dovevoice
@dovevoice 7 лет назад
I totally agree with you. I think they need to add spectator mode, it can be also helpful for new players who struggle with the mechanics of the game.
@Zeniithe
@Zeniithe 7 лет назад
It should only benefit the game.
@nyxnem
@nyxnem 7 лет назад
I am of the opinion that the multiplayer should be build as a building that will last forever. Since we are talking about Empire - pyramids are good examples ;) This means from the foundations up, and not vice versa. Only in this way it can be upgraded and improved if we want to have as the final product MLG. This means - multiplayer accessible for all to such an extent to have constant influx of new players. So first we should to discuss how to make a good base. In short. Wolfpack is good but it's not enough. Tutorials are good but they are not enough. Playground is good but it's not enough. Those are all things for sp players that want to try mp side of the game but once they have to face experienced players - it ends up as a cold shower. In other words the end of multiplayer experience. Imagine a new player with default sets (only) against prestiges (99,9% smoke bomb) - he/she has no chance. So how to make mp more friendly for new players? Because this is important at the end - to have a large base of players (thousands, millions, billions, .... :P). For sure not a 'downgrade treatment' of the game as it happened for ac4 (easy kills, almost no variety system, knife stun is just a pathetic shadow of acr/ac3 my opinion ofc, ....) Ok ac4 has also some advantages. Maybe a possible solution could be a short period of time (first 15-20 levels) where new players (with their default sets) can play with higher level players with restricted abilities (some kind of game lab) ... I have to stop here otherwise I'm afraid that it will run out of space down below. I got a head full of ideas that are driving me insane hahaha and I do not know if this is the answer to your question xD
@Zeniithe
@Zeniithe 7 лет назад
Mad metaphors there nyx.
@nyxnem
@nyxnem 7 лет назад
I told you I'm crazy xD
@NinjaJDM
@NinjaJDM 7 лет назад
I think the number 1 thing holding AC back is just community size, back in the day of AC3 the community was much bigger I think because everyone was playing it on the same console pretty much (only old gen). However when ac4 was released, so was the ps4 which split the community between people playing on old and new gen. I think a big problem with this that I haven't actually heard mentioned was just simply that you couldn't play with friends meaning its not as much fun playing. For example from my experience a few of my friends that I played AC with moved to ps4 and I and others probably didn't just because they couldn't afford to. Then by the time people like me have moved to ps4 most people i used to play with have just stopped playing and moved to other games, also doesn't help that ac4 is pretty old now. Another reason about the community that I remember is that when AC4 was released lots of people just didn't like it, for reasons such as they changed smoke bomb etc. and then refused to play it. That probably didn't help the community as for ubisoft that could have been another reason for them to stop multiplayer as people were just complaining about it. Last thing about community which is in my opinion, is especially on ps4, is people don't play public and say rank doesnt matter etc. It's fair enough that being in the top 100 doesn't mean your the best player and stuff, and yeah u get a lot of bullshit match makings and stuff, but by only playing private this makes the community again look smaller because when new players join they would just think the community is dead and won't bother with it because they don't realise people just play private, or they don't know anyone who plays private and so cant get involved. Also back in ac3 I think people did care about rank and for me this was much fun as i remember spending lots of time with friends just playing the game trying to get top 100, as back then you didnt run int people ranked as much since there were more people playing. As for your other points, yeah servers could be improved a lot but ac4 on ps4 seems pretty good (maybe thats since I've been playing it on ps3) and as u said other msg games have bad servers, also I'm sure if empire did have comp multiplayer the servers could be better since its 4 years newer. And about play styles and abilities i won't go into on this comment as its long enough already lol
@Zeniithe
@Zeniithe 7 лет назад
Ninja JDM You can't blame people because they want to play private. It's just a better quality. At this stage, it doesn't matter too much. There needs to be a new mp to restore a sense of freshness for people.
@NinjaJDM
@NinjaJDM 7 лет назад
Oh no i don't blame them, I'm just saying it could be another factor
@xArcane1122x
@xArcane1122x 7 лет назад
if AC MP can give a good contract system and less lag as possible I shall be happy
@Zeniithe
@Zeniithe 7 лет назад
Those are not unreasonable requests.
@FreeHidings
@FreeHidings 7 лет назад
I think the whole uturn thing stems from the nature of AA and how it is so "dukey"; success comes from outmaneuvering your adversary (let's say attacking vs the defender). Players feel satisfied when they beat the defender, and then cheated when backup is called upon to crush their run. They feel cheated because they perform gnarly moves and beat their opposition, without the reward of scoring. Personally I feel the less restrictions, the better. If you want to uturn, don't complain if I shield tele. If you want to animus hack, don't complain if I gun. The most exciting games are those where people are free to play as they choose - with the exception "4 defending." Because ultimately this is just extremely boring to both play and watch, and gives heavy advantage to the defenders over the stealers. I'm not sure if AC needs to be MLG to be competitive, I still love it how it is and enjoy playing under different rulesets. Unrestricted games can be so wild and hilarious, while "restricted uturn / no hack / no gun or whatever" games arguably result in more visually exciting and skill based gameplay. Players are forced to play with ambition = higher risk, higher potential reward. I only commented on one part of your vid because time is precious, keep em coming, will do my best to keep up!
@Zeniithe
@Zeniithe 7 лет назад
Free Laggings I know what you are saying. I wonder if you can set two people to defend only. The other two people can't kill anyone, just stun . There are problems to that but it would be interesting to have those mechanics in the game to test them. Time is precious for sure, that's why I condensed all my other comms into one comm. I only have one comm left.
@Snake-Whisperer
@Snake-Whisperer 7 лет назад
Nice Commentary!
@Zeniithe
@Zeniithe 7 лет назад
Thanks Snake, wooo!
@Apexx27
@Apexx27 7 лет назад
The biggest reason other than lag and broken mechanics is that Ubi never made it possible for us to play on the game without internet being absolutely necessary. every Esports game has LAN capabilities (the things needed to play on the same TV or at least, in the same building without internet being required). THAT is why we never could make this game go anywhere, no matter how hard we try. Ubisoft needs to make that possible first.
@Apexx27
@Apexx27 7 лет назад
you know, after they bring the PVP back, that is. if ever. which may never happen.
@Apexx27
@Apexx27 7 лет назад
also, i typed this in the start of the video. not sure if you said this in the video or not. sorry for not watching it all first.
@Zeniithe
@Zeniithe 7 лет назад
That is another great point I didn't think about. Definitely should be looked at as well.
@AnalogousPrune9
@AnalogousPrune9 7 лет назад
Zeniithe Ubi has already said For Honor will need to be constantly online. I don't think they are going to back off of that stance.
@Apexx27
@Apexx27 7 лет назад
Steep is currently like that. cant even enter the entirety of the game without internet.
@Lowfrequentybass
@Lowfrequentybass 7 лет назад
If AC ever goes Pro, i'll do everything with my heart and soul to apply the rules i did on my last tourney lol
@Zeniithe
@Zeniithe 7 лет назад
LowFrequentyBass What were they?
@Lowfrequentybass
@Lowfrequentybass 7 лет назад
And to onto add your points about uturning and 3-4 defence it's plain cancerous, any PC tourney that goes tryhard for example on AC3, scores 1 then starts circle defending in 4 or in 3, that's just being cunts not playing AC at all. Same goes for excessive uturning, it's just not fun to play yeah sure fine you can counter it by going to attack in 3 or whatever if AC and AA in particular ever goes MLG, they definitely need to add on some extra rules or no one will ever enjoy playing the game.
@Lowfrequentybass
@Lowfrequentybass 7 лет назад
Zeniithe i'll link the rules to my tourney here if you're interested, but you will have to allow links on your settings later on
@Lowfrequentybass
@Lowfrequentybass 7 лет назад
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@nacho__063
@nacho__063 7 лет назад
You are so damn right jesus. I always thought the same on one of your points, you can ban gun, hack but you cant ban people playstyle likes sheles, thats why I havent played the latest tournaments, people use everything they can to win and play like complete dicks, even if they set up rules for people not the uturn it still sucks. Back in the day when I was playing mainly assassinate I adapted to every playstyle you can do in acmp even if I disliked it, it was public and people just want to win so they dont give a fuck about shooting you, osbing, baiting and getting advantage of the noobs, you had to adapt and predict your oponents in order to win and it was fine, assassinate is imo by far the most balanced and unfair gamemode, it doesnt matter how cancerous people can play, even if they just play to screw you up, you could adapt and backfire. That would have been the only gamemode to go mlg right now, since everyone is on his own, everyone can play however they want without any issue
@nacho__063
@nacho__063 7 лет назад
long ass comment lol
@Zeniithe
@Zeniithe 7 лет назад
Nacho__06 Yes, assassinate seems like the best game mode that could be MLG. But AC wouldn't be much of an MLG title if it only had one game mode for esports. When people play best of games, they usually rotate a playlist of either team or FFA modes.
@nacho__063
@nacho__063 7 лет назад
+Zeniithe I know, just talking about the current game
@xnosmokenoknivesx
@xnosmokenoknivesx 7 лет назад
Most people of the MLG Community, and eSports in general, are very picky on what they consider worthy of competition. CoD, Halo, and Overwatch are all titles expected to earn this opportunity, because anyone can become pro at them seeing how "simple" they work. Assassin's Creed Multiplayer is far too complex, and also much more broken than any other PvP title I've ever tried. When Ubisoft made events for AC3 and AC4, they didn't account for the numerous exploits in both games and instructed certain objectives such as "throw a smoke bomb and kill this player" or "shoot that player hiding in a blend group from point blank". Generally, they imagined everyone would play similar to the SP, but that obviously didn't work out. You now have your crappy baiting, excessive freerunning, and other "techs" in the game that baffle newcomers and people who run the eSports community. :/
@Zeniithe
@Zeniithe 7 лет назад
Superior Beast Starcraft is an esports game. That is a very difficult game I've heard.
@majdar1277
@majdar1277 5 лет назад
what is MLG ?
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