Is Calvinism unfair? - KingdomCraft 

Fortunately I have the free will to reject Calvinism

"I'll put the verse on screen" *[proceeds by forgetting to put the verse on the screen]*

John Calvin: "Finally I found diamonds! 🥰" *forgets about the lava* John Calvin: "Hold my tulips, I'm about to reform the church 😡"

As a person from the south who's been to more baptist churches then I could count, I can confirm that your baptist impersonation is acurerate.

Losing those diamonds was a canon event Also shoutout to fellow lutherans🙏

Really enjoying this so far even as a non-Calvinist but wasting that glass at 9:01 was the worst thing I’ve seen on this channel.

The issue I keep running into with Calvinism is what it says about God's nature: Calvinism seems to say that God wants to save some people and not others, but 1 Timothy 2:3-4 says that God wants everyone to be saved and to know the truth.

Me: so your calavanist A calavinist: yes Me: I am so sorry for you A calavanist: why Me: you had no choice

Fun fact: Zoomer never did this video before just because he couldn't find a "diamond right above a notorious pool of lava" situation

Man I remember when I was a Calvinist and I really thought this made sense

wasted a diamond just for the intro 😢

My problem with Clavinism is that it implies that God creates people for the express purpose of going to hell. That doesn't seem like something an omnibenevolent God would do.

Across the Spiderverse is basically the Calvinism movie

Things I looked up: 2:16 The acronym TULIP states the five essential doctrines of total depravity, unconditional election, limited atonement, irresistible grace, and perseverance of the saints 3:23 Provisionism claims that anyone can be saved. It rejects the idea that only a select few are chosen for salvation. 4:42 John Calvin (1509-1564) was a French theologian and pastor known for developing Calvinism, a system of Christian theology emphasizing predestination and God's absolute sovereignty in salvation. His teachings have influenced Congregational, Reformed, and Presbyterian churches globally. 4:48 Augustine of Hippo (354-430) was a Berber theologian, philosopher, and bishop of Hippo Regius in Roman North Africa. His writings greatly influenced Western philosophy and Christianity, making him a significant Church Father in the Patristic Period. 7:10 “I the Lord do not change. So you, the descendants of Jacob, are not destroyed. (Malachi 3:6) 10:12 Blessed is he whose transgressions are forgiven, whose sins are covered. Blessed is the man whose sin the LORD does not count against him and in whose spirit is no deceit. (Psalm 32,1-2) 11:19 Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. (Matthew 7:7) 12:50 Calvin's Geneva Catechism is a Reformed catechism (a manual of religious teachings) developed by John Calvin in 1541. It served as a guide for teaching the principles of the Reformed faith. The catechism was widely used by Reformed churches in Europe. 14:40 Paul Washer (*1961) is an American preacher and missionary. 18:11 From birth I have relied on you; you brought me forth from my mother's womb. I will ever praise you. (Psalm 71,6)

Revelation 22:17 - "Let the one WHO DESIRES take the water of life freely." I think that speaks to human free will in regards to salvation, with God's help and drawing of course (John 6:44), but we can choose to reject God's calling or drawing of the Holy Spirit and because of that, I believe these passages I'm about to cite totally destroy the doctrine of irresistible grace: "The Lord, the God of their fathers, sent persistently to them by his messengers, because he had compassion on his people and on his dwelling place; but they kept mocking the messengers of God, despising his words, and scoffing at his prophets, till the wrath of the Lord rose against his people, till there was no remedy." - 2 Chronicles 36:15-16 I spread out my hands all the day to a rebellious people, who walk in a way that is not good, following their own devices" - Isaiah 65:2 (Quoted in Romans 10:21) "I will destine you to the sword, and all of you shall bow down to the slaughter; because, when I called, you did not answer, when I spoke, you did not listen, but you did what was evil in my eyes, and CHOSE what I did not delight in.” - Isaiah 65:12 "I also will choose affliction for them, and bring their fears upon them; because, when I called, no one answered, when I spoke they did not listen; but they did what was evil in my eyes, and CHOSE that in which I did not delight.” - Isaiah 66:4 "Because I have called and you refused to listen, have stretched out my hand and no one has heeded." - Proverbs 1:24 "And now, because you have done all these things, says the Lord, and when I spoke to you persistently you did not listen, and when I called you, you did not answer." - Jeremiah 7:13 "You stiff-necked people, uncircumcised in heart and ears, you always resist the Holy Spirit. As your fathers did, so do you." - Acts 7:51 We harden our own hearts. God only hardens people's heart because they themselves have already hardened their own hearts as a self-induced state. I love my Calvinist brothers and sisters in the Lord, but I do disagree with you on this particular topic.

He infact, did not "put the verse on the screen"

Calvinism is unfair. John Calvin is in there. Standing at the procession. Plotting his oppression.

My thing is, if God wants everyone to be saved but we can’t come to Him on our own, why wouldn’t He predestine everyone to come to Christ and be saved?

I’ve been fighting Calvinism for the past year ever since a class debate. Our teacher was a Calvinist and let a side that didn’t even believe what they were saying, broke the debate rules, and went against the Bible in an argument win just to fuel his narrative. As much as the Bible speaks on being chosen, it also speaks on accepting Jesus, repenting and letting God into our heart. I also believe Calvinism is an arrogant way of thinking. What makes you worth saving when billions of others burn in the flames of hell for something out of their control? I believe that we all deserve hell and that salvation is by God’s grace, but I would never think that God’s grace is limited because of that. And suppose I was not “chosen”, then what is the point of my existence? Why should I not kill myself then and there if I’m going to the same destination? What is the meaning of life if we have no free will? God would not put people on this earth for no reason. And where is the line drawn to what’s in our control and what isn’t? If free will isn’t truly real, then neither is accountability. We are God’s children, not God’s puppets. Having free will does not contradict his planning, we have free will because he allows us autonomy. Take the Tower of Babel for example, that was human’s folly, but God still gave consequence. Same with Adam and Eve, and Sodom and Gomorrah. That was our vice and God’s intervention, however we still made our decision. I could probably keep writing but I’m gonna go to bed now.

As a non-calvinist I appreciate your level representation of the issue. So many reformed baptist types get so up in arms about it and demand that we all submit to the truth of tulip. I like Gavin Ortlund's emphasis on the "both/and" relationship between God's sovereignty and man's responsibility. Whatever we emphasize, the truth remains that God saves who he wills according to his mercy, and all of those people will have faith.

2 Peter 3:9: The Lord is not slow in keeping his promise, as some understand slowness. Instead he is patient with you, not wanting anyone to perish, but everyone to come to repentance. That wouldn’t make sense if God predestines people to go to hell and we don’t have free will anymore. If we didn’t have free will he would predestine everyone to go to heaven because he doesn’t want anyone to perish. He knows who will be saved but we choose to get saved or not and God tests us to see if we keep our faith

"It's not unfair because some people get what they deserve and some people get better than they deserve." Do you really not see the problem here?

calvinism isn't unfair, it's unbiblical.

Calvinism has always been a very interesting and kinda frustrating theory, nice to see to you tackle it.

I was predestined to think Calvinism is false and the Roman Catholic Church is the one true Church

9:13 Pink sheep spotted which has a 0.164% chance to spawn.

I'd say yes it is unfair to deprive us of the will god obviously gave us to use. It literally breaks all my theology to deny free will.

Creating conscious creatures just to eventually torture them forever seems pretty evil to me tbh. Yes, the argument is that we cannot truly understand how great of a sin it is that Adam ate the apple and that we can't hope to understand God's cosmic justice - but that strikes me as deeply unfair and evil still. We kill ants or other insects because they annoy us - but we don't torture ants by slowly ripping their legs off one by one, as that is obviously cruel and evil. Extend that to God damning lesser creatures to an eternity of torture - how is that fair, just because we are incapable of understanding why it's happening to us? Why would God create souls only to eternally condemn them to torture forever? What about a baby living with an uncontacted Amazon tribe that dies during childbirth - torturing a baby forever for something it couldn't possibly help to know or comprehend strikes me as supremely evil, and I can't reconcile a way around that. What are your thoughts on this?

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My main problem with Calvisim is that while some verses in the Bible seem to teach "Predestination" on the surface, the vast majority of the Bibical narrative clearly shows that free will post-Adam clearly still exists. And not only that, but the idea of Predestination creates a tone of implications that are directly debunked by the Bible itself. If Predestination is true, then by definition, God doesn't love everyone, and by his own choice doesn't want everyone to be saved. This directly contradicts a a couple of verses that clearly teach the opposite: "For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life." - John 3:16 "The Lord is not slow to fulfill his promise as some count slowness, but is patient toward you, not wishing that any should perish, but that all should reach repentance." - 2 Peter 3:9 "Have I any pleasure in the death of the wicked, declares the Lord God, and not rather that he should turn from his way and live?" Ezekiel 18:23 "This is good, and it is pleasing in the sight of God our Savior, who desires all people to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth." 1 Timothy 2:3‭-‬4 "For I have no pleasure in the death of anyone, declares the Lord God; so turn, and live.” Ezekiel 18:32 "For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people." Titus 2:11 "Say to them, As I live, declares the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live; turn back, turn back from your evil ways, for why will you die, O house of Israel?" Ezekiel 33:11 In light of all those verses, then I think we can safely conclude that Predestination is not true. When the Bible talks about "Election" it actually talks about is election of certain people as representatives of the truth of God. Not election for salvation.

THIS WAS A GOOD VIDEO! KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK RZ!

Calvinists - "We oppose abortion, but not because they're killing innocents."

I don’t get how us Catholics are considered the self-hating guilt-ridden branch of Christianity whilst the Calvinists outright say we all deserve Hell no matter how good of a person we are.

What did I just walked into? The other day, I watched a video of yours that gives each denomination a grade tier. I'm Charismatic and loved your presentation! Well done! Thought I found another Christian RU-vidr. Today, I saw the nicely done thumbnail and thought, "What is this? Minecraft and Christianity???" I started the video and then saw the channel name. Very talented. Keep up the good work. Who says learning can't be fun? :0😂

I consider myself a 3-pointer, and I believe Calvinists are just as Christian as us Baptists, but I still regard limited atonement as absolute heresy.

It's curious how Calvin says Calvinists shouldn't wonder (or worry) if they're elect, because that's very similar to fate's operation in Hirohiko Araki's stories. Essentially, all the villains in the story have a power that attempts to (or succeeds in) circumventing fate - from simply stopping time to temporarily removing the user from the effects of fate - often due to a desire to rise above the world and control their destinies, yet the heroes - even though they may know for certain that they will perish in their quest for justice - don't worry themselves about what's to come, as fate has repeatedly shown to favour the just. I'm not sure how to link this back to the video, but it's a neat thought.

It has helped me quite a bit to think of Calvinism along narrative lines, in so far as if you picture any fictional character that you've ever read, that character simultaneously executes his will and the authors will. It's not at all a violation of a written character to be written, because he cannot exist any other way! Furthermore, a good author understands the character he is attempting to write, and the narrative purpose of said character. Therefore, everything that the author writes, is within the nature of the character, and everything the character thinks, wants, or does has been written by the author.

There was a moment in this video that I waswas brought to tears and I just had to say, “I love you God.” He is working through you, my guy. Your theology makes sense and now I’m starting to think I might be Calvinist. God bless you, Redeemed Zoomer!

If it’s already been decided where I’ll go when I die and there is nothing I can do to change it shouldn’t I just live my life however I want. After all if I’m going to Heaven no matter what I do, I’ll just come to Christ on my deathbed and be forgiven because I’m part of the elect. If I’m going to Hell I might as well enjoy the temporary pleasures in this life seen as the most merciful being in existence only died for the sins of some people and not all people.

The problem with Calvinism is you have to somehow affirm God’s will as the sole determinant in the fate of men, but you can’t go all the way and accept strict determinism to be true. Because if determinism is true then God causes evil and you quickly fall into heresy. All I can say for people who are willing to go through the mental gymnastics it takes to affirm calvinism while rejecting determinism is… good luck man. I haven’t heard a logically sound argument for that particular theological system yet and I’ve listened to a whole lot of them.

For me, determinism in Christianity is merely testimony to not having the ability to unify verses that speak of a decision and verses that speak of a foreknowledge without presenting one as an illusion under the other. It is always necessary to choose the simplest that is compatible with all the facts. When God speaks of regret, one knows that the immutability of God consists of having a fixed character (spoken within time), and merely performing a single spontaneous act in which all other behaviors are included (spoken outside of time). One does not conclude that God would not regret something in reality, not that when He speaks of an emotion He means something else, but that the regret does not represent a change in His person and He already knew about it when He created man (and He created us anyway). A reasonable being does something that is good/rational to do even if it knows that it has to go through negative emotions because of it one day. God knew that even if He sees people in pain and (thus) regrets making them in a moment, in the end it was worth it. Love is wanting the best for the object of love. To see its happiness as one's own and to see its suffering as one's own. If God does not save some He could save, love is not His dominant motive. It stays either unfair or unloving, even if He in some sense has all right to do so. If He has the ability to not do so, He does not what would be loving. There must be metaphysical rules for it, which one can bring in via free will, but hard determinism does not come around it. If God a) programmed who gets saved and who not, b) had full control who to create and how many people to create and c) is unbound by metaphysical laws (laws of His own nature/laws that are just a product of what and how He is) such as having to give people free will, He, in fact, would not be a loving God. It's not that we all sinned in Adam and Eve but that a mechanical reaction of this first sin was the corruption of all of nature. We are born in an unfair world where we can become sick and where we are born removed from God because of this mechanical reaction of sin, something He could not remove without breaking order and creating chaos (something impossible?) God is the loving and fair one who still tries to reach us.

Guy says we should all be burning in hell and follows with "that's the beauty of calvinism"

Not a wierd channel, a great channel!

Calvinism is wholly unbiblical. Anyone who studies the Bible for themselves in context without wearing Calvinist lenses while doing so can see this easily.

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Calvinism is unfair! Mr Knox is in there! Standing after the session! Plotting his confession!

Hey man wanna just say thanks for explaining predestination, Ive been asking for a while and you provided a pretty good way of seeing it with the fact that us going to hell is fair

Can a calvinist explain how salvation isn't an illusion if we are predestined to have faith? If you're never in danger to go to hell then how can you ever be saved from a nonexistent danger?

The best explanation of the doctrine of election I’ve ever heard is this: Imagine a wide open door, and above it there’s a sign in big bold letters that says “come in, and have your sins forgiven. Receive full pardon from the king!” Some people walk in, others do not. On the opposite side of the door, it says “Chosen from the foundation of the world”

I was a calvinist for over 10 years. I held on as long as I could but the points just fail when you see them against scripture. The funniest video on YT is Idol killer: paul washer totally depraved babies. I haven't laughed like that in a long time!

Thank you for making these videos. They have really helped me understand other dominations of Christianity. I'm non domominal, but that's because idk where i fall within the dominations

Great explanation again of a very difficult subject. I'm Dutch (Christian) Reformed and I never hear people talk about this stuff.

It doesn't sit right with me that an infinitely merciful God can offer His salvation to any less than every single human, or that a God of infinite love who wants the best for us would want anyone to go to hell "just because" I also think that Calvinism cheapens the relationship between God and those who are saved - what does it mean to have a relationship with God and love Him if we're incapable of doing anything different? However interesting video as always, God bless you brother

You’re ignoring Calvinism’s embrace of determinism. That’s the real point of contention. What humanity deserves because of sin is wholly irrelevant if God Himself is the sole antecedent cause of every human sin. It is outside of a perfect being’s nature to judge, punish, or reward people based on things that they cannot control. This is an obvious truth. It’s also why things like racism and sexism are wrong.

Thank you this enjoyable video!

The trouble with predestination for me is, why would someone convert to Christianity if God has already chosen whether they’re elect?

Some Calvinists and reformers say if a true believer deletes themselves, they will be saved. Because of predestination. This is SCARY.

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I feel like you responded to my comment about Calvinism earlier, even if not directly. Fully explained, the predestination bit doesn't sound as anxiety-inducing or as random as it appears at first. It both makes sense and seems biblical up to a point. Mostly agree. The point where I find fault is the circular logic of if a person wants to be saved, wants Christ, then that person was already elect to begin with. Especially since we find a number of times during Christ's earthly ministry where the faith of a person shifted the situation, faith moves the heart of God. I think of Mary having Jesus turn water into wine, even when Jesus stated that it wasn't His time yet to perform miracles. But He obeyed His mother. There was also the woman with the issue of blood, who had the faith to reach out to touch the end of His garment and was healed, and Jesus did not expect it. "Who touched me?" "I perceived power flowing from me." I do agree, we cannot come to Christ on our own and we all deserve damnation, which is what the Cross is for. Christ dying on the Cross made the way for us to come to Him, "I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. No man can come before the Father except through Me." However, to reject the Cross, which I believe 2 Corinthians talks about this, means that there is nothing stopping a person from being damned, it's the Cross or hell. Hint: choose the Cross. This might come down to a matter of semantics. Funny enough, since I was raised in church and dedicated as a baby, I legit thought that I was a Christian from birth, but I was told that was not the case and had to "get saved" at 11, and got baptized not long afterward. (This was at a Church of God of Prophecy I grew up with) People have this idea of getting baptized more than once when "rededicating their faith", but I never really understood or agreed with that. I always had the belief that one only needs to be baptized once, it's totally unnecessary to have it done multiple times. I don't have a "salvation story" because of the fact that I was raised in church, and have always disliked the pressure to have one coming from many circles. It really undervalues raising one's children in church in my humble opinion, when raising them in church is exactly what we should be doing. It's not about who has the better testimony, it's about glorifying God and reaching out to the lost. I don't know if I sound Baptist or something, but the church my family and I now go to is a church that split off from Assemblies of God, and we're a very unique bunch.

Man I love you redeemed zoomer. I’m an 18 year old Christian from Florida. You’re an inspiration my man, praise Jesus Christ . You’re advice is so good. I need to stop looking to myself and start looking to the Savior and the promises of God. Thank you🙂

Love your comments and videos. You were however really struggling for words throughout this one. Maybe it's time for a rethink on Calvinism.

See TBH I feel like Calvinists (and Redeemed Zoomer please forgive me for this) dont focus on the love of God and how by grace God saves us because he loves us not because we're destined to "fill a Christian quota" if u will. And because God loves us he gives us a choice to accept or rejecct him because if he didn't he wouldnt be a loving God. Again I grew up in the Free Methodist tradition and still consider myself a Methodist theologically speaking so I do believe that humanity has free will.

What're your thoughts on philosopher/ theologian Soren Kierkegaard?

THE LAST WINDOW PATTERN WAS INVERTED and it hurts. But great video! You always discuss christian topics with grace and respect, i am loving your channel!

Anybody else a Leighton flowers fan and a redeemed Zoomer fan?

How do people unironically believe this

@Redeemed Zoomer - do you have any in depth videos about hermeneutics? Or could you make one please? That would be awesome. I have a hard time understanding covenant theology but want to, so that I may see if I believe that perspective. Psalms 22:9-10 (the infant faith you spoke of)

You may not be committing a Christian heresy with your Protestantism, but you are certainly committing a Minecraft heresy by allowing those random floating blocks to remain.

I really appreciate this video. I converted to Christianity in January of this year, got saved in February, and baptized in March. Since I converted, I’ve been going to the non-denominational church I went to as a kid. I love that church, but the way they speak on salvation has had me worried on and off for months that I’m not saved. The concept you spoke of about how you look at your baptism as an objective means of salvation has really helped clear my conscious. I also really like and appreciate the logical and philosophical way of looking at theology and scripture. You have planted a Calvinist seed in my mind 🌱 thanks for the video

All Christians believe in predestination. Calvinism just includes a certain take on Augustine’s take on predestination.

Roman Catholic here, thanks for the video! I was wondering, how does the Calvinist view of predestination deal with 1Tm 2, 4? God bless!

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Why doesn’t God give everyone irresistible Grace

Calvinists believe that people being damned is just a Canon event

The way I've always thought about free will and predestination is that it's our ignorance of the future that convicts us. Even if we are predestined to either accept the sacrifice of Jesus or not, we have no way of knowing who is predestined for salvation and who is not. The ability to pose the question "Is predestination fair?" shows that in your life, you have had the opportunity to know, accept, and love God, and make what is -- from your limited perspective -- a personal choice. Evangelism is important for this very reason: those who have had no physical way of knowing Jesus cannot make a choice as we can beyond spiritual intervention, which God can choose to do or not to do as he has also chosen who has had the opportunity to hear the good news from birth. As you mentioned, it's a hard pill to swallow, but once I accepted that God's will always comes first and that, in his will, he gave me the abilities (and limitations!) to come to my own decision about him, I was able to set aside my notion of what is fair and instead embrace what God is willing to do for me and others.

Your version of God would be unjust, unless he's not omnipotent. God desires all people to be saved, and come to the knowledge of truth. If the determining factor for whether someone comes to call upon the Lord to be saved is God, and God has the ability to make everyone do that, but chooses some people not to come to him, then that is unjust. It's akin to a father giving an inheritance to his children, but only if they have a special ticket, and the father only gives some of his kids that ticket, but has infinite tickets to give. It makes no sense to distribute the inheritance, but not the means of redeeming the inheritance. Maybe you or other Calvinists believe there is something greater than God that determines who he saves, which certainly does not seem biblical, unless that's your interpretation of Wisdom.

As R.C. Sproul says in “Chosen By God”-I’m summarizing-“Some receive justice. Some receive mercy. But no one receives injustice.”

As a non-Calvinist I think RC Sproul did a really great job explaining how Calvinism is not unfair in his What is Reformed Theology lectures. I wish people on my side would stop using that objection. We should just use Scripture to make our point. Good stuff!

Hey, can you do a video explain premill, amill, and postmill which one you are and why?

God Bless you all Amen

I vote that Zoomer and Kyle make a podcast together where they just discuss these topics. I would love that. And so would RU-vid.

Proverbs 16:4 “The LORD hath made all things for himself: yea, even the wicked for the day of evil.”

Who else wait for the verses he quote to appear on the screen. I don't think it is intentional thou, inciting video!!!

Great vid. Thanks.

Amen!😊

Nah. God doesn’t owe salvation to anyone. If even one person was saved, it would be an unbelievably profound act of grace. The fact that there are potentially billions (or trillions, who knows) of people throughout history who are God’s elect shows the extent of the remarkable and wonderful grace of our God. Praise the Lord!

As an evangelical Southern Baptist, I still don’t understand how anyone can claim that Baptism is necessary for salvation. If that were true, then what about the thief on the cross, who Christ, Himself, says will be with Him in paradise. It also fails to account for deathbed conversions. If someone came to Christ before their death and as such were unable to be Baptized, they would go to Hell if this teaching about Baptism was true. Furthermore, claiming that the act of Baptism confers the promise of salvation on you would seem to contradict salvation by faith *ALONE* because you’ve now added works. Is Baptism necessary for obedience? Yes. Is it necessary for salvation? It can’t be.

This video was such a relief. In all honesty, I avoided this video for a bit. But now I see that it is mainly the Reformed Tradition's interpretation of the covenant with Adam that leads them to such conclusions on predestination. This is so much more understandable, and I can respect disagreeing with this view of Genesis as a lot of people disagree on Genesis. Before this video, I had assumed much worse things. But now I see that the disagreement is based on a rationalization of Genesis, rather than being fabricated out of some other strange, completely unBiblical philosophy. This, I can tolerate with much more ease.

I AM MAD CANT YOU SEE I AM MAD???EVEN THOUGH THIS VIDEO HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ME BECAUSE I AM ORTHODOX

So… in Calvinism Christ didn’t die for everyone’s sins?

Can you make video about why theonomy is biblical or unbiblical? That would be interesting in my opinion.

Yes, thanks for watching.

Zoomer represent the origins of reformed baptist theology correctly in one video challenge: impossble.

Most of this video fails to deal with the central question “Is Calvinism fair” in order to rehash the reasons why Calvinism is _true_ regardless of whether it is fair or not. So I have a few questions I’d like you to ponder, Reformed Zoomer, if you read this. 1) How can you fit Calvinism into the analagous language of the Bible? Remember, when God gives us analogies, it is not because we could understand it better in more literal language - rather, the analogy is the highest form of understanding because the analogy is what is found in God’s word. God created our bodies and our world in light of these analogies he was making. God is a father - and human fatherhood is rather an analogy for God than the other way around. So, simply put, how can you say Calvinism fits into the spousal and fatherhood images of God - that Christ is like a bridegroom and God is like an adoptive father? 2) You’ve used many phrases which, rather than giving good reason to believe in Calvinism, in reality, reveal the reasons you are attracted to it: "Calvinism has the strongest doctrine of sin", "This is the most God-centered theology", etc. . But do you think these ideas are also true of these statements: “Calvinism has the strongest doctrine of mercy.” “Calvinism has the most loving portayel of God.”? 3) How do you explain the choice of God to save some and not others? Why did he choose to leave some out? Doesn’t this contradict what Jesus taught about the Good Samaritan? I would like it if you could focus on these questions. I’m pleased that you name-dropped Leighton Flowers in this video. I’m especially pleased that you aren’t throwing any of us “Arminians” out of the kingdom. However, I hope you’ll consider our ideas more carefully- because I think you’re missing out on a more full understandign of just how great and overwhelming Christ’s love is for you, and for all the people who, in your view, are “reprobate” :D I know you desire their salvation. God does, too. A house divided against itself cannot stand; there are no “two wills” in God. Finally, I’m almost happier that you’ve come to fully embrace the erroneous theology in the Presbyterian church (the same theology that drove me away and brought me, for now, to a Methodist church.), because otherwise you wouldn’t stay to try and restore the church from within. Perhaps it’s better for you to stay _wrong_ since you’re doing good things with it. That being said, I wish you would stop making videos about it if you aren’t willing to deal with the really hard challenges!

The chat was one of the highlights of this video

please do a video on Old Testament historicity im very curious what you believe

Bro got the autistic special interest in christianity, good work!

Calvinistic soteriology is like a mess of cables. When you have the "elect" getting anxious about whether or not they or their loved ones are "elect," you know you've got a problem on your hands. It's easy to point out how Baptist understanding of salvation is very individualistic, but that's exactly where Calvinistic election _drives you._

The way you struggled to explain your belifes and the mental loopholes you had to jump through to confirm this falible theology is astonishing

Video about the Sparkle Creed?