Audi Treser Super 5000: The Crazy 1980s Sport Sedan You’ve Never Heard Of 

Same here, imagine if it had more power??

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Obscure Audi tuner... no wonder.

My parents had one of these back in the early 90's (when they were cheap because of the whole unintended acceleration debacle, come to think of it - it could've been the late 80's), in later years there was another one in the extended family, but even though we have a history with these cars - I've never heard of this version.

My parents bought one of these in the early 90's. 32 years later, we still have it in the family, running strong!

I owned a 1978 Audi 5000 (introductory year) in the early 2000s, it truly was an innovative vehicle. The options it had were crazy for a 70's car. I still wish I had it today as it was a very low mileage manual trans car

What’s funny is why their cars had unintended acceleration, it’s because Audi mounted the pedals in the opposite direction, so people who were used to driving other cars would get in one, go to hit the brakes, but instead they’d hit the gas and… yeah that’s where it gets sad. Just be happy it was only 6 deaths and not 37 like what happened to Toyota from 2009 to 2011.

Was this acceleration thing real in the end or just operator error? Just seems odd it was the Americans only that had the issue. Here in NZ they were called 100, or 200 Turbo. I have owned both and to be honest couldn’t understand what the yanks were in about

@@angusnz7910 it mostly affected shorter people and the pedals are flipped for gas and brakes compared to other cars, I assume in New Zealand the pedal direction wasn’t changed so it’s probably normal there.

Always thought it was a floor mat issue aka driver error...

it was posted on local CL for years.... nobody wanted it

@@nedudki While it's interesting to hear it didn't sell for a while (I Guess "Treser" isn't as known on the US Market as obviously here in Germany) I don't see what your comment has to do with the History of Walter Treser and the fact that he sadly passed away last year and that the Car is rare. That said, Rare doesn't mean "easy to sell" in every country. Here in Germany this would sell immediately and easily, i guess in the USA it doesn't Prost & Cheers from the Bavarian Alps

This was so damn cool, RIP Mr. Treser. For some reason no love for 80s,90s models in USA.

@@nedudki so obviously the seller did the right thing by offering it on c&b

@@chartreux1532L nobody care

Was it really 89 feet long, though?

@@PantherP74 Yes, that's why 89' rr flatcars were invented. - Ok, might have to change the year abbreviation from 89' to '89 I guess :D Model year 1990 is what I mean, you know :D But believe me, for european standards, a car of this length sure felt close to 89 feet. In addition, my car had a hitch fitted which made matters even worse. Luckily, there was much glass to see through and my car was the Avant model. So you could kinda guess where the car ended.

That power steering system is why i sold mine (punches self in face with brick)

German here, true about how to pronounce Treser, but i think Doug is already going way beyond how to pronounce German Names and Word compared to most other American Car Reviewers. But for those who want to have an easy way to pronounce Treser correctly try: "Dre" like in "Dr. Dre" but "Tre" and then "sair" Prost & Cheers from the Bavarian Alps

@@audiman-gr5gn Yep same here. Fixing it for the 3rd time just wasn't gonna happen for me.... but the car lives on to this day and has been partially restored by the new owner :)

Das muss ich mir mal anschauen.

@@vornamenachname5589 Sehr empfehlenswerter Kanal.

Halle77 also has a video series about a Treser that was saved from the salvage yard

@@testkanal2mille Thank you

Ich werde es mich auch mal anschauen. AMS war glaube ich auch immer gegeistert von Treser.

No, he has to start with the word THIS

Hunter typ85.

Has to be one of the most 80s thing I've seen

All that is is a body kit. You might be able to find the kit somewhere, and Audi 4000's can be had for the cheap.

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I had a used ZX2 which had a full set of right hand wheels, for some odd reason.

I’m a big fan of Audis of the 80’s. My friend had a 5000 in high school in this very same color. This Treser treatment I don’t feel it brings the best out of the original 5000 as it makes the overhangs look even longer on a FWD platform. Good catch about the wheels

It's a body kit, that's it. FWD 140 HP automatic, YAWN

I noticed the wrong wheels orientation right away, and it annoyed me a lot along all the video!!!

This same thing happened with cheap econoboxes too like the Proton Satria Neo. It had directional wheels and most don't give a damn about the placement.... just being cheap and throwing them on randomly.

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Now those girls are grandmas

@@joecool9739 😂😂😂 yes but just imagine them back then!!! If my back seat could talk!!!

Thanks for the good laugh! 😂😂

@@Lasergun74 Grandmas nowadays are hot though so you could still call them to "see how theyre doing"

Audi dashboard with wood grain and the leather seats were very nice. I wanted to buy an Audi but they were not as reliable during late 80's as we thought Honda were. All the cars back then had springy seats and the better ones had wonderful supple leather

Around 10 years ago I owned an audi 5000, and 10 years before that my dad owned one. I don't have a single memory of the sunroof opening on either. The drive train seemed solid on both cars, but electronics not so much.

That seemed like absolutely everything broke on the 5000.

In 1991 the US got the 20v 5 cylinder with over 200hp. Before that we had the 10v in the 5000 and 200 with up to 170hp in the MC1/2 and 1B/2B code motors

CARB (stands for California Air Resources Boarr) only has jurisdiction over cars registered in the state of California. California will not allow registration of any car not federalized with an non OEM engine after the 1975 model year. Additionally, federalized cars were required to have a catalytic converter emissions system not yet required in Europe at this time. The US spec federalized cars were severely restricted on emissions. In 1985 even US cars were just now creeping up in horsepower numbers after car manufacturers were still just figuring out how to make power without running afoul of US emissions laws.

I think its more to this than just emissions. This car is clearly an automatic and i dont think Audi offered automatics in the 5000/100/200 on the more powerful engines (or quattro).

@@Timoastra that too. Autos usually weren’t even turbo. They were often just slightly bigger 2.3L

@@conor7154 well the ferrari testarossa which was the fastest production car for a short time (untill the porche 959) only had 390hp and i believe it needed 4.9 seconds to go from 0 to 60. I owned an 89 Nissan 240sx turbo in the 90s. It only had 170hp but it felt fast as shit to me back then. To be fair: It only weighed 1100 kilograms. A modern vw golf is MUCH heavier

These old reviews are my favorite.

@@jxchamb i know right!!

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@@jjlegend3922 He said that some time ago, his statement was true. And he was talking about the views on videos of older cars in *relation* to videos of newer cars.

YES!

It’s an unfortunate that this car got 140hp. Atleast it looks better then what my sons favorite car brand BMW has been putting out lately

@@drippgxd those crazy grills have ruined the designs

They literally look like Aston Martin V8 Zagato rims

@@alexander1485 true that

Looks very similar to an HSV vn commodore

I thought it was a 190 from the thumbnail

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my brother drives a T5 volvo, 5 cylinders are truly the best sound that a normal person can buy.

As a former owner of a Volvo 850 and a Mercedes 190D 2.5… I agree!!! Admittedly the diesel Merc did just sound like a tractor, but the Volvo has a lovely growl, even in non-turbo form.

Yeah...blah blah blah blah! The Audi 100/200 was a big car at that era in the late 80' early 90'... at least here in Europe. The Audi 5000 was bigger than Mercedes E-Class or BMW 5 Series competitors. And it's still not "small" compared to todays cars of its class. Look how much space Doug has on the rear seats! This was the biggest advantage of the front drive Audis at that time.

@@user-jf8gd3lv7q relax, I think you totally misunderstood my comment.. this Audi might even be a limo compared to BMWs and Mercs and Rolls and whatever.. for what I care, I just said that it’s funny to see how Doug looks very big or very small when standing near old or modern cars 🤷🏻

5000 is C3 chassis. Not B2 like a Quantum. The Audi 4000 was B2

@@PoplinsGarage - the Quantum / Passat (so did versions of the 4000 / 80 - 90) used the Audi 2.1L I5 as the larger bodied Audis. Do believe the smaller US-spec engine was the 1.8L I4.

The 5 cylinder engine was too long, so they slanted it to the right and put the radiator on the left.

Weird that he didn’t mention that. Also the fact that this lux car only had a 3 speed auto. The entire engine was actually ahead of the front axle coupled to the trans that distributed power for the Quattro system. That explained the very forward placement and large front overhang. Also made for some crazy understeer and push combined with the Quattro system.

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18:35 Doug refusing a prostitute's advances

Valeu Musketer, vc é ponta firme!!

It’s outty 5000 coming from Audi but you’re mucking it all up. Source EPMD ICE CUBE AND LUPE FIASCO ON THE OUTTIE VS AUDI

It's actually a saying for failure. "You're an Audi 5000" meaning you're a failure, a reference to the cars notoriously bad reliability.

Very true my friend

what a weird slang...

Here's your "The More You Know" moment" for the day. In addition to catching fire, Audi vehicles of this time, would on occasion accelerate rapidly without notice. This slang term is actually an adaptation of an earlier slang word "outtie". With that being said. I'm Audi 5000 G!!

First time I've even heard of this version of the Audi 5000 myself

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That is NOT this. Yours was actually cool. This is just lipstick.

@@bindingcurve yea. I loved that car. Sold it because the coil went bad! The coil cost as much as I paid for the whole car!!! (Back then)

There is so much that rap fans have "no idea" about

I agree I’m disappointed each time without the score breakdown!

You must’ve gotten very lucky.

The reason is the same dealer which is selling it (their name and phone number are on the rear plate shown) did put it for sale on CARS & BIDS. Doug, who is a PARTNER of that site, is now reviewing select cars that come to the site as complement for his new car reviews. Smart business move and totally acceptable.

@@syxepop I have no idea what any of that meant but yeah go off

"Sudden" acceleration? I would have been happy to have ANY acceleration in the '85 5000s wagon (ahem, Avant) and then later 1990 100 Avant. Misunderstood by the public and mechanics alike I believe these models introduced the concept of euro luxury car depreciation. Both my Avants were bought as used super-bargains, and with a young family I really appreciated that! Used OE parts were cheap and plentiful too since due to massive depreciation even minor wrecks were parted out.

My old man had one of those. Great car, first one I ever drove.

A top trim Saab 9000 dash did literally look like an aircraft cockpit. Buttons, lights and LED displays galore! So much more fun than the single touchscreen you get today.

Yep. My parents bought one of these in the wake of the scandal for cheap, I think it was around 3000 dollars for a car that was two or three years old at the time.

They are still woefully unreliable. Here in the UK Audi have the highest engine failure rate at 22% within 100k miles.

@@fakevirus8828 Maybe you brits should learn to drive

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The worst part is that audi never did what they should've done and sued CBS/60 Minutes for defamation and slander the same way GM did too NBC in 1993 after dateline aired a 100% fake "expose" about the "safety" of the '74-'87 C/K pickup line. The case that 60 minutes featured in their story eventually went to trial and the jury ruled in audi's favor saying that the fault for the "wrongful death" of the six year old boy who died laid entirely on his mother who was driving the car when the accident happened.

like "old shit"?

exactly !!!

The only person I know who had one of these said it was the worst car they ever owned, so bad it made them swear off the brand for good.

I've been through an Audi 5000 pretty much completely thanks to some mice who thought the wire insulation was a tasty snack. There weren't that much electronics in them, especially compared to anything modern. I didn't find it at all challenging to repair or diagnose--though I do remember seeing some high current wires and connectors were rather undersized and started to overheat even before the mice got to it... The heated seat wires were the worst if I remember. That was kind of sketch. Those got upgraded substantially. The mechanical fuel injection on the other hand--and the hydraulic brake booster/suspension leveling... Those caused a wee bit of head scratching. 🤯 I would hazard to guess that whatever surge issue existed was probably caused by a mechanic who monkied on and didn't understand the mechanical injection system. If you read on the unintentional acceleration / surge issue, ABC had to modify the car to do it, and it's pretty clear they were just out to kill AUDIs reputation for some unknown reason. For one, the brakes were way more powerful than the engine, and could easily stall the torque converter at any RPM. Tested it myself. THOUGH the accumulator could run out of pressure if the brake was very rapidly depressed many multiples of times very quickly. Secondly, the car can be shifted out of gear or shut off before much speed was gained. If there was such an issue with these cars, it must have been driver error. Like little old men and ladies who press the accelerator instead of the brake.

The 200 aka 5000 for you was a good car. They are actually quite simple from a electrical standpoint. Then again there were many "Techs" that just called everything they misunderstood "junk". The "reputation" you speak of applied only to North America and was painted on by media and ignorance. That "junk" powered Audi through some iconic motorsports moments and set endurance records.

@@cutroc350 so they were really great but Audi scrapped the entire line and started over ? Been a few years but I do remember the tail lights were problematic. The old " the better engineered they are the harder they are to work on " lol. I'll put my skill at finding/fixing electrical or mechanical up against anybody. I don't believe I ever said the Saudi's were too electronic, I criticized the design of components and of course high price. I think 5000 back then was 25k around Mercedes territory which I did MB tech training in Jacksonville, Fl. Both part 1 and 2. Thanks for the memories.

@@jamesmurphy9346 The defensive comments is just proof that there will be contrarians who can defend anything, no matter how notoriously awful it was.

Maybe one day one of those precious few that reached US as CLASSIC CARS after 25 years may be listed on C&B...

Agreed

"Epic car"? 😂 😄😄

@@markallen2984 define “epic” 😆 it’s cool but .. just my opinion! 🧐

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Nah, he's genuinely interested in this. It's a piece of automotive history, why not

Donald S - the kind of guy to post a totally overused annoying cliche that's neither funnny nor informative.

In the last few weeks Doug usually pulled a "Top List" (formerly on "More Doug DeMuro") from his garage to upload on Sundays. This auction review replaced that this week.

Here's how it would go... Doug: "This car is really fast for the time period!" ~ Doug Score: Acceleration 3

Quite fast top speed and high speed acceleration for its time.

@@earnestbunbury2103 L + Ratio + fatherless + hater

Has to be an interesting/rare semi-modern vehicle, otherwise he does not care about classic older cars.