"Audiophiles" are ridiculous ( and spend money on Silly things like cables) 

It's becoming more and more evident that RU-vid NEEDS audio fact checkers.

Audiophiles use music to listen to their system. The rest of us use equipment to listen to music.

I am a recovering audiophile and the problem I had was that I wasn't ever satisfied. One day I realised the folly of my ways and now I use my phone and a good set of headphones and actually enjoy music again.

I've offered <a href="#" class="seekto" data-time="1201">20:1</a> to several audio nuts - they pay 5k if they lose, I pay 100k if they win. Contest: show they can identify a chichi cable vs zip cord at a statistically significant level, blind. Not a single taker in 30 years...

A few years ago I found a website made by a former McIntosh engineer. He said in the beginning they literally used lamp cord. He came down pretty hard against "audiophilia"!

This video is the greatest! I just played my friends nylon string acoustic guitar recently (out of so called "tune" lol) I was tone hunting. I don't know too much about plugging in.. I have just been picking the thing up for 20 years hoping a sound I'm searching for will emit. Great video. I like where you're coming from. ✌

And before you type a hasty comment, as a random self-proclaimed audiophile that may come across this video, think before you type. Really consider what evidence you have that one cable is better than another.... Look closely I am not arguing that there is not better equipment. Believe me, I have sat and compared stereos for years. There are some amazing receivers, and there are some really bad ones. Same with speakers. But when you get down to things like power cords, you're gaining nothing for your system. Nothing at all. And when it comes to speaker cables, as long as you have the proper gauge and no interference with the circuitry it shouldn't be an issue. It's rare that speaker cables are not sufficient. Even if you are using regular Romex for electrical work. You might be able to pick up an audible difference in a $500,000 stereo system fully cranked up using special measuring gauges. But I haven't seen that much of a difference to justify the extreme cost. What I am saying is that people spend thousands of dollars on something and want to justify it as a good purchase, and that's fine. But there's nothing there. Except snake-oil. You look around at some of these guys sitting in front of their stereo systems, with bare floors and bare walls. No room treatment. And they pretend like they know everything about sound. It's a bit funny. And I only mentioned it because there are people pretending they know things they don't. Well I'm here to burst your bubble.😀 My stereo is just as good as yours. Prove me wrong. ( and I got mine all at Goodwill) I'm kind of half-joking here. Don't get me wrong there are phenomenal systems. But there are diminishing returns. And the source material is what is most important. The same thing happens with guitar players, often seeking 100 pedals just to find that one sound that evades them. And if they don't find it, they convince themselves they do. Because after all, we want results. We want to hear what we want to hear If you want to get a Hi-Fi system I'm here to tell you you can do it for under five hundred bucks. Hands down. You just got to look in the right places. And just ignore the tone Chasers. Half the time they're making up woo woo that has no basis in audible reality. And after all, we are after audio, not speculation. If it sounds good to YOU, it sounds good enough. Be well my friends Check out my podcast, 15-minute free-thinking. 15-minute-free-thinking.simplecast.com/ And my secondary Channel, carpos complaints If you would like to support the channel in my effort, please visit me on patreon for extra content: Www.patreon.com/carpo719 On a side note, the video cut off when I was about at 1 minute away from finishing. But you get the point

Solid state & tube amps definitely have a different sound to the ear. It's all on what you like.

Great video, music to my ears. I was an electronic organ tech in the 80s, very high end digital sampling church organs. We had one in a Catholic cathedral and one in a modern protestant church right across the street. Catholic church had marble, stained glass, etc. Great organ accoustics. The protestant church had carpet, 8' acoustical tile celings, padded pews, and drapes floor to ceiling. The Catholic organ sounded like God. The identical model across the street sounded like a calliope. No electronics we threw at it helped, very expensive reverb units, etc. Acoustics are more important than any other factor in a system. Cables don't matter at all unless the termination is bad or you don't have shielding where needed or not enough gauge on the speaker wires. They are completely insignificant other than that. But tell that to a flat Earther.

Great video. The one and only time i have found a problem with speaker cable was when i ran about 50 foot of " speaker wire" in the garden with a 3 watt amp.. Where has all the volume gone

Yamaha Natural Sound modular system here! Been in my life since 1986. I always assumed I was just bass hungry but you're right, it needs the bass boost to approach natural.

Like with everything the law of diminishing returns also goes for stuff like this. If you do a blind test with a good mid to high range 'comsumer' speaker with normal cables there's no way the difference will be big enough to justify spending thrice as much. Same goes with instruments, if you buy a guitar that's over €1500 you're basically paying for bragging rights. It just shows how easily we're manipulated when it comes to arbitrary perceived status.

I agree that there is a certain degree of placebo effect. But, I have tried BestBuy 10$ cable and compared with 7,000 $ Nordost Valhalla2 cables, and there is a big difference in sound quality. You can listen with a much louder volume with my Nordost, but the same volume level with 10$ cable, you will get noise fatigue. You will not notice it unless you have a high end system.

Aww yeah, listening to the crunchiest 90s black metal on $20,000 worth of gear 😎

I bought good quality cable in reel so that I can customize the appropriate length for my system and house interior. Unfortunately sufficient gauge, well insulated cables cost quite a bit. Add some reliable connectors like Neutrik then it can get expensive quite fast.

Also, I never gives my opinions on the sound itself, as an electronic technician, I can only speak about how well a particular device is made, but how they sound is a matter of personal choice and tastes. As for the wires, as long as they are big enough not to mess with the signal, they're fine. US made marantz stuff, as well as anything made before 1979 is usually great, just like sansui,pioneer, onkyo, sony, from the same time period .

Well to each his or her own. A few contradictions as well. Example speaker wire doesn't matter unless ya got 20 guage which you may lose some bass. Either way, I love music and will always have some sort of system to listen to. Nothing beats a live performance though!

I have the same reasoning as you. Also what affects audio is adjustments of a turntable, cassette decks eg cleaning of heads with qtips gently with isopropyl alcohol, lube with head lube and demagnetized the tape path with a demagnetizer wand. The storage of records and tapes matters and placement of speakers and room furnishing. Also a sub provides the lower bass sounds. I am a vintage hifi fan when things were made in their country of origin well and affordable.

I'm with you. There's a lot of snake oil and over priced things. Gotta take stuff case by case though. For example, I added a power conditioner to my PC / Headphone setup. Didn't do much. For laughs, I picked up some heavy duty, shielded power cables off Amazon for $30 each. To my surprise, some of my gear did benefit. I wouldn't spend hundreds on 'better' power cables though. But it makes sense, if I'm using a device to clean up my power, then keep it clean to the system and avoid interference. Don't know about plugging them right into the wall expecting something to happen. Again in my case, this was a pretty busy system with a lot of wires close together.

Speaker placement and room the most important. You also need good quality speakers. Higher end cables are also used to tone control and EQ problems becasue people buy a lot of bad equipment and try to "fix" it after.

Justification of an expensive purchase just human nature.

I I totally agree with everything you say in your video. I have a pretty decent sound system, using Amazon basic speaker cable, into a 30 yr old pair of tannoy speakers, a 10 year old marantz amp and CD player, the main source though is my 50 plus year old garrard turntable. Here in the UK guys spend a fortune on cables, including mains cables. Don't they realize that all UK plugs have a fuse in them . That's an inch long piece of wire the thickness of a human hair. What's the point of spending a fortune on cables if they all end up passing through this fuse. I suppose if you spend hundreds of dollars on cables you are looking for a difference and will hear one even if no one else can hear it. Great video.

As someone cursed with perfect pitch (fun fact it hasn't gone away even though I'm in my 60s. Sigh) I could not agree with you more. I could hear far more nuanced distinctions than most audiophiles as a child, you're absolutely right. But, heh - it's like the guys who drive the big trucks and wear the cowboy boots but don't know which end of the horse the apples go in and out of which end they come...the audiophiles are compensating.

I entered audiophile community, learned about FR graph and parametric EQ, and left.... that's all I need for good sound

Respect! Very informative, and fun video.

This is my hasty comment ; ). Now that I can afford much more expensive gear than when I was 17, my hearing is limited to 15kHz tops. Nature is cruel. As long as you stay away from the real low end crap, modern audio from reknowned brands (not talking about hyped brands) is very good. With an exception of turntables. Modern turntables are only ok when you spend relatively a lot of money compared to other components.

I saw a system on YT where someone spent more money on cables, power filters, isolation platforms, spikes etc than the system costs and then put a horn (a metal instrument!!!!!!) on the speaker!!!!

agree with your comments.

Meter Man here, lol, (I’m no maid) that was some great rap music. Great video.👍

Totally agree with you. That's why I refuse to call myself an Audiophile. Doing so would imply that I'm like "them" and think like "them." I call myself an audio video connoisseur.

BROTHER YOUR WORDS AND TAKE ON THIS IS " ELOQUENT " , THANK-YOU FOR BEING REAL, HAPPY LISTENING EVERYONE !!

In my experience-Vintage ESS speakers with the heil Amt tweeters might be some of the best speakers ever made. I got my “ rock monitors” for 500 bucks. But I do want to at least hear the Tekton double impacts…

Great points, and I'm not experienced much with stereo equipment. Had a pioneer 10 Walmart sub in the trunk of my car that I used to have. I think it was a 250 watt Amp, but I forgot the rms but I never really got into it also the Sony explode deck. Had my friend hook it up for me and that was that. It worked for me, but I eventually didn't even want the sub, I was satisfied with the 6x9s and the front speaker sound. Sold the Subwoofer for a nominal fee lmao.

60s-70s marantz are great, they started relabeling cheap stereos as marantz in the 80s-90s. From what I understand the new company that took over the name is now producing proprietary higher quality receivers now.

Cheap Audio Guy is great! Love your channel and the random gems of knowledge you are serving up. Cheers!

The truth shell set you free.I'm looking to upgrade my 30 year old sound setup.Thank you for the great video.

Hey Carpo have you tried any bookshelf or tower speakers made in the last 10 years or so? The Sony STR-DH190 can be had for $180 new or around $100 used, great for a 2.1 or 2.2 system. Great sound quality. Klipsch RP line is great. I use the RP-150ms. And you can buy a used BIC america sub for around $80 that will blow your socks off. You really can get everything you need for less than $500, or $1000 if you really need something crazy. Do you follow cheap audio mans channel on RU-vid? He reviews a ton of affordable amps and bookshelf speakers

Acoustic Research fo their top model AR9, 45 years ago, reccommended night lamp cord,

I use metal coat hangers for speaker cables. Just make sure you remove the paint of the ends. I can't hear any difference.

Yeah the dismissal rate is at all time high, real conversations don't seem to exist without "I'm better than you mentality" I in my opinion.

Absolutely love your channel and fully agree with your comments, even down to the ears in the early seventies I bought a pair of moulded ear extensions yes they did improve the sound as my ears don’t stick out but I looked a right clot wearing them.

Great video - as always humans try to outdo each other. Those big speakers of yours seem pretty sweet.

And speaking of goodwill I snagged a pair of advent as2 tower speakers in perfect working condition for $26 and they sound amazing! Funny because I’ve also gone in there and seen total piece of crap speakers they mark up higher

jays audio channel showed a pair of 80 grand speaker cable, that firefighter hoses with an active strange box in the midde thats do some magic and they have to custom fine tune it to your speakers... and they charge 15 grand for that tuning..you get the picture

Bloody brilliant. Thanks mate for telling the truth about these snake oil sleaze bags.

It's called hand on my you know what factor !!! How true , enjoy the music !!!

THANK YOU FOR THE EDUCATION AND BEING HONEST AND REAL BROTHER !!

Welcome back all you say is true how people listen to music is personal and the type of music that's why we all have different systems and music types 👍

Another hasty comment: I don't think it's necessarily worth arguing about. People get employed because others buy expensive cables, and I think that's good. Enjoy the music, in whatever way you like! It's all good to me, I like tone, rhythm, imaging, and that illusion of the band being in the room. Peace.

Well yeah,my experience is that you dont need more than 2,5 - 4 qmm fine wired copper wire to achieve perfect transmission between power amp and passive speakers for hifi used in privat living quarters. Anything else is just money thrown out of the window. I mean speaker placement and acoustical treatment of the listening room will have a way,way more significant impact on sound than fancy high end cables. Although shitty pseudo budget "high end" cables which are eagerly sold by some store chains once in a while can realy f up your listening experience.

I'm an audio nut and know just enough to be dangerous. 😄 If it's one thing I've learned over the years, "audiophiles" are some of the more gullible consumers I've ever seen. Expensive speaker cable, power cord (😄 seriously) and my favorite - cable elevators. Apparently keeping your super expensive, shielded speaker cable needs to be elevated off the floor. Oy.

Want to “trigger” one of these pretentious fools, just tell them it’s all BS and they’ll fight and fight and show you nothing but more BS. Audiofools are so fun to mess with. You are 100% correct.

This is very informative for all and mostly for those who don't get it.. Legendary video! "Not everyone has a good ears though.."

Exaudiophile here... noticed that people who work in music studios don't tend to use silver cables and such. So why do people who listen to what they produce think its necessary? I use good quality studio monitors as my home hifi and a mixer that allows me to tune into the various types of music I might enjoy. Flat response, adapted to the sound required for any given genre. Works well.

Oh, I did hear a difference. What was it? The $$$$ cable had a built in RC network (filter). All it did was roll off the treble a bit so that mids and bass would be more prominent. This is NOT high fidelity, nor an improvement. It is subtractive to fidelity. $160 "hospital grade" power cables are pure BS.

Here´s a top tip. The soundstage will open up and breathe organically when you suspend your powercord 3-4 inches above your floor. I use cotton string nailed to the ceiling. The strings should be black for that totally black background in the soundstage. I use copper nails myself.

Data signal transfer as analog current to your speaker. If you use 5mm gold cable, with almost zero resistance, that is not affect your speaker sound if your speaker still use $2 cooper coil from china.

I have a 35000$ JBL /Mark Levinson system. I use Klotz professional cables, this is for professional use, normal prceing., I don’t use any trick or tunning in my system, I folow strickly the user manual requirments… and I tell You I hve never been as close to music as now. Any recording, any genre, is fantastic

When the room is well and sensibly dampened, the equipment properly set up, and is of a certain quality, corresponding cables are suitable. It can be heard when the rest is "98%";)

Once again CARPO is spitting out badass truths!

Man, spray some deoxit in your volume / pot meter... you will get rid of the scratching... spray it on your RSA and speaker connectors too and the sound will improve especially with that vintage stuff not having gold plated connectors. Truth is somewhere in the middle, my DAC interrupted when I turned on the lights in my room... it appeared I was using an unshielded RSA audio interconnect... replaced it with a " digital" shielded 75 Ohm one (costed 30 usd). Now, I can play music and turn on/off the lights and it sounds better too (yeah just a little). You do not need to spend ridiculous amounts on cable, but you will not regret having some basic quality stuff in place (often decent connections will oxidize less; oxidation can lead to high measurable resistance on the connector).

The only things that can effect sound with a cable are impedance and cross sectional area of the conductor. The rest of the mumbo jumbo cable lore will just be a waste of money.

The Warmth from Turntables and Tube amps is actually distortion....

"GAS" - Gear acquisition syndrome. Something I and many others have fallen prey to in the music production hobby. i.e. Never being quite satisfied with the gear we own, always looking to upgrade or buy something new. GAS seems to plague audiophiles as much as hobby musicians -- though somehow I've managed to avoid it in my own hifi journey, where I've been perfectly happy with my Senn HD-600 headphones and studio monitors for decades, and more recently, a Fosi amp + Kef speakers/SVS sub. You don't have to spend a lot to get incredible sound -- though I'm always looking for new ways to make sound, which can be an endless rabbit hole. Thankfully the "woo" snakeoil hasn't invaded the creation space anywhere near the degree it has the music consumption world. The gullibility and lack of critical thinking in the audiophile world is reminiscent of what I see among conspiracists, religious fundies or political extremists. Filled with people with far more money than they have sense.

Damn audiophiles. Sitting round buying the highest pitched sounds they can find to show off their frequency ranges. They CAN"T EVEN HEAR IT!!!!! Brilliant!

Thanks for saying what we are all thinking.

Such an interesting video. Thanks.

I bought a pair of cables for $20,000 because they were constructed with the finest materials known to man and aged 40 years in oak casks!

I understand your perspective on this and the very real aspect of diminishing returns, but when you reduce your argument to equating lamp cord with, at the very least, a few brands of high end cables that I have experience with, it undercuts the issue! Tone chasing is an aspect of the audiophile, and is not necessarily a bad pursuit, who wants to tweak their system to satisfy their personal idea of what reproduced sound should be like. I agree that far too many cables are extremely similar in their performance, albeit within certain parameters. Some cables can mask detail, or accentuate certain frequencies or even suppress them in some cases. What I have found over the several decades of experience with a vast array of gear and cabling, is that the company’s that actually utilize technology to enhance the ability of the musical signal to be transferred between components with the least amount of damage done, are definitively superior. Transparent Cables can provide an easily discernible improvement in most systems and you absolutely do not need to get their megabuck versions to hear a difference that can draw you into the music. They provide a dramatically reduced noise floor, increase dynamics, improve definition and control and allow the music to relax and sound closer to real instruments being played right in front of you. It is addictive and a valuable tool to utilize if maximum enjoyment of your music is a priority!

1k is a good ball park figure. My yamaha amp was £300, yamaha cd player £350, Dali speakers £250 and stands £150 that's £1050 total and they were all purchased new.

I read so many reports of people loving a turntable for the two years they owned it. Why did they get rid of it?

Hey man. Really enjoyed your thoughts on this. Cheers!

About a year or so ago I was personally interested to hear the difference between two affordable single ended interconnectors. One I already use a Van Damme and purchased a Sommer Cable. It's in everyone's reach its not big bucks. The Sommer cable was sent back, it sounded shit. Cables do sound different from each other they really do. Where the real issue is the highly over inflated prices. Now I have banged on about two sets of interconnects that will cost you around about $25 each but just to let you know I do own more expensive interconnects. Basically what I am getting at is sometimes a relatively affordable cable will actually do for most folk and there is a clearly noticeable difference between them. Look I gave one of my brothers a Cyrus 2 integrated amp with its PSX Power supply okay and he could not tell the difference between using the PSX and not using it. Now I can clearly hear the difference, its subtle but it's their and it is happening, it does not change the character of the sound it cleans the sound probably by reducing the s/n ratio so stuff sounds a bit more separated. I shall tell you where there is a massive problem in the HiFi World and that is when a dealer/shop/distributor lie. Now back to the Sommer Cable, the dealer said it needs running/burning in, well he forgot to consider that me being the customer I can get in contact with the manufacturer of which I did and they let me know that the actual Sommer Cable that I had purchased has no need for a running/burning in time, it is ready to go.

Shielding on speaker cables will ruin it yes. BUT to make Bass you need bigger speakers and they are heavier need more "stuff" and cost more. Most speakers made from MDF or wood stuff have restrictions and reflections and you can only couple the driver to them with so much torque before they strip out. Metal speakers you can have more secure parts and stronger cabinets. T6 grade aluminum stuff is harder to make and costs more.

100% i have a marantz i found free 2230 needs serious tlc. But my go to is magnavox. Currently running a maggie 750 amplifier. Needs cleaning and tlc. Works well with the maggie speakers.

With all due respect... You may be a musician or a self profound "recovering audiophile", once You experience a system which delivers emotion, You will notice that every subtle change makes a difference. I am not saying that ,,,$100k is better than $10 cable, but it depends on the system. It's all about synergy. If You take Your hobby seriously, go and visit somebody who has the means to change Your oppinion. Your $1000 dollar system analogy is spot on but "those speakers don't have good bass" on them. If You reach a certain level everything starts to make sense. Type-O-Negative: "White Slavery" is a very revealing song. Try shitty cables and expensive cables for reference... All the best! To each their own...

What someone pays, and what something is worth are two very different things.

One test will prove anyone wrong: Listening (blind) A/B test carried out ten times and controlled by an audio engineer not known to the one taking the test. And of course I agree with you! Also, most tracks/songs from the recording studio and/or from the mastering engineer has been treated with a low-pass filter, and that is often around 16Khz - 18Khz. So any speakers that specifies above 20Khz are not worth the money just because of that. The same goes for the bass, it usually has a high-pass filter set at around 20hz - 50hz. What has been cut out regarding high and low frequencies from the mastering studio is not there, and so you can buy whatever audio system, speakers and gear you like, but it won't get those frequencies back, ever.

i was using a boss wave in my living room as a soundbar, i got given 2 of them for free. i paired it up with a cheapo amazon tube preamp just to gain tone control. sounded pretty good honestly. The only thing that kinda sucked was that those bose radios definitely have like an optimum bass frequency band. but thats got to be expected because of the way its designed. still good though. Now ive got some dayton audio tube amp, a couple of diy panel speakers with the cheapest dayton planar tweeters and cheap chinese crossovers. and also a yamaha yst fsw050. the whole system costs less than 500 bucks. it sounds pretty great. dont really care for what audiophiles might say about it.

Audiophile or Audio fooled. 50 plus years of loving music and selling audio and having many a system myself has taught me science rules my decision. Not Marketing nonsense and the high end club that has made me leave many years ago. Cabling and accessories are out of control. All hyperbole and so on. I grew up with the 60s and 70s and 80s gear and some of the early 2000s. Electronics designed correctly will not exhibit any sonic difference at all. Just thoroughly pissed off the haters and club haters. Someone need to clean the controls. Probably needs to be recapped and re biased and reset for DC offset and so on. You have to be careful of brand bashing. Remember they satisfy a customer all over. I gave up on Goodwill because now they gouge if not just steal the gear. That is right. The radio shack speaker you held up had quality drivers by peerless, and scanspeak. High End is all high priced tax but you would be surprised the narrow margins they truly have. Manufacturers have challenges too. I won't stop anyone wanting to save them from bad or over priced stuff. Romex is attached to a $25.00 circuit breaker too. Your zeal to tell the truth is welcome. The reality is the high end market is shrinking. Even high end journalists hate me. But the people are winning the war. Performance and science is here. Marketing and being sucked into it is losing too.

Do you ever come across vintage harman kardon amps worth seeking out!

Your the only person i have ever heard agree on the brain concept, it makes a huge difference.

Hey Bro We like to spend 20k for cheap Chinese speaker cables and walk over homeless people on the sidewalk in America!! It's the American wayyyy!!!!! 😉😉😉

Ok - we can all agree that there are a lot of ridiculously high prices on higher end Hifi - catering to audiofiles who have some type of addiction in their hunt for better sound. And there are quite possibly also rich people who use expensive hifi equipment as prestige objects to show off, more than it is actually about the music. But that said - of course you can hear the difference between different cables, once you get above a certain level of amplifier and source. You need to balance out the quality of cables with the quality of equipment you have. And if you search amd use your ears - you might like I did, find an experienced cable builder in eastern europe, who can build cables that rival the expensive companies, in hifi quality - but at a fraction of the price. So this hobby is also an exercise in discernment and patience and using your senses - trust me, your ears can improve, like everything else with practise, when you over the years have listened to more equipment and have more references. I welcome anybody to come visit me - and I´ll disconnect my thick eastern european made power cables - and put standard power cables and a standard powers strip back on - if you cannot hear the difference - then I would worry for you wandering the streets alone without a hearing aid - cause you clearly need it :) Just try to get the best parts and cables within your price range - synergy and experience from other hifi nerds can take you along way here - use the second hand market a lot - and test things out as much as possible. And most important - don´t get butthurt if someone can afford a better quality system than you can, as this youtuber clearly is - be happy with the advances you can afford to make in your system - and enjoy your progress and whatever level of music/sound you can achieve!

you are wrong about that ,if you can't hear the difference it does'nt meen others can't , i can hear the difference between cables blind tested many times , and there are alot of differences .so you can't call yourself an audiofile if you ''think'' there are no differences ,sorry bro but your not .....

problem with A/B power cables is it takes 3 hours for an amp to warm up right. So if you put in a new one it takes another 3 hours. Audioquest btw is bad. Siltech Triple crown speaker cables goes up to 140 grand + btw. They are silver ohno where every molecule is closer together with less gaps in between.

take it from a professional almost everything this gentleman said in this video is correct. now lets take a look at what speakers are made of and do the math. a couple of sheets of MDF the cheapest wood on the market a little bit of steel & aluminum some magnets copper wire a few paper or poly cones crossovers and some screws. the amount of material used to make a set of speakers couldn't even build a 5x5 shed and that costs 500 to 800 dollars. six year's ago i built myself a pair of 15 inch 4ways with high quality driver's for 1100 dollars my brother-in-law spent over 9000 just on his speakers alone and can't understand why my 2000 dollar system makes his sound like something you get at a Walmart. i run a technics su-v98 with a crown xli-1500. my next door neighbor has a set of Klipsch forte iv with the Velodyne DD18 sub after hearing my system he comes over 3 times a week to play a few songs.. today it would cost 1600 to build a set like the ones i built. when i was at crest audio we built special speaker cabinets for Phil Collins & Metallica out of 13 ply 3/4 baltic birch the wire inside of them is 14g tinned copper electrical cord rated at 300v. regular speaker wire is around 30-50v for 100 watts rms anything after that you are using electrical cord some with fancy end's and calling it speaker cable. anyone who spends over 2500 on a FULL brand new stereo system needs to go back to SCHOOOOL. the problem with audiophiles is their ignorance is no match for their stupidity they think wine taste better in a crystal glass meanwhile it comes out of a regular glass bottle.

Solid core wires work better if not same as expensive cables. Skip the connector bare wires. Follow IACS standards on conductivity.

Some people just like to tweak around a bit ' if you got the money to splash ' no problem '. When you go up in the audio chain with speaker cables you do hear differences but the more expensive the more less you hear '

I think you're comments are ruffling my feathers. I like music and hi-fi. I am 62 years old. I like all sorts of music. I have a valve amp. I like, Slade, ELP, Dylan, Tomita, Nurse With Wound. I've got a Bose wave radio in my kitchen. Gong, Cotton Casino, Aldous Harding, Yello, XTC, Jowe Head, Fox, Billy Ocean, Nina Simone, (we don't have 'Romax' in my country) I have lots of different wires and cables. I have found they all change the sound. I have 7" singles,12"singles,CDs classical music - Mousorgski, Shubert, Chopin, Debussy. I have single driver speakers with no crossovers in. I have tried many different cables to wire my speakers. I do not spend 3 or 4 hours in a day re-arranging my stereo. I have my Stereo in my front room. I have one car. I have tried cannabis in Amsterdam. Oh Oscar Peterson. Jamie Saft. I have recently bought a book by Paul McGowan called The Audiophile's Guide purely to help me with speaker set up in the room. I have found DNM cables work really well in my system. The word 'Audiophile' has a negative vibe. I do love music and how it soundz

Placebo is totally denied by audiophiles. It's, yea I understand what it is (but it don't happen to me cause I have 30yrs of listening exp.) And diminishing returns, happens really quick. I've found cables to make a very, very small change, probably more placebo. Use ohm's law and figure what your speakers actually draw and you'll see how small spkr wire can actually be. Power cords, wow, there is snake oil to the max. If you understand how electricity works and how the gears power supply works you'll understand. 40,000 on a power cord???? seriously???? 99% of high end audio is eye candy not sound. How 30yrs listening can make you hear what can't be measured is so stupid. I've been doing math for 30 yrs so I'm faster at calcs than my computor, yea. If you got the money and enjoy playing with gear, great, but don't try to make me believe someone has Superman hearing.

You really don’t know much about audio. I agree with you, if you buy cheap crap like marantz and Sansui, then yes, nothing will help shitty sound. Buy quality equipment, then everything matters. Same goes for cars, you don’t put Toyota Corolla tires on a 992 Porsche, or your $200k Porsche will handle like your cheap Corolla. You really need to do your homework before producing videos on audio equipment

To me i dont care about the system, what makes me an audiophile is the pressings I buy of the music I want. I look into where the music was pressed, who cut it and what makes it different than the other available versions.

I'm 77 and stopped being an audiophile 30 years ago and started enjoying the music.

It's the sinergy what gives you the desired results.

I love you. And you should give a disclaimer saying that you're not suicidal, if you catch my drift

Hey, I love VU meters, especially blue ones. Yeah they are useless but they look cool and retro. I always used zip cord for my speakers until I bought some of those humongous copper Monster Cable speaker cables back in the '90s. It's funny that the cable was the thickness of my wrist but terminated in a pin the diameter of pencil lead. Then I moved on to AudioQuest for interconnects and speakers. After a long interlude of downloads only on the computer, iPod, and iPhone I got back into hifi last year. Now it's inexpensive but functional cables from Crutchfield or Amazon. It's strange that the audiophiles cringe at any tone controls but think that raising speaker cables off the floor will have the same effect. But if you look at the hardcore headphone guys they actually use equalizers to customize the sound to their taste.

at last some real common sense, thank you

These cables are bulletproof 😂😂😂😂

I think everything in this video is correct with budget systems. As you go up to the higher end stuff it does all get very revealing. you say at one point that cables dont matter but then go on to say that shielding a cable does change it, can be worse. so if shielding chan change it then how a cable is designed can change the final result. As long as we are all happy with the outcome, that what matters