The idea of autistic women being kind and friendly to other autistic women is new to me. The world is changing. Maybe I'll be able to have a friend someday after all. Thank you ladies. We really need a community.
@dawnhughes9942 I feel this so much. I dont have any friends either and really long for one that I can have long term and create a tight and loyal bond with. I have wanted to be part of a friend group like I see others have where they get together regularly share stories and experiences and just overall have one another’s back.
On the subject of multiple neurodivergent channels- when I first suspected that I was autistic I watched every video I could find. For me it helped to have lots of explanations on each aspect. Each RU-vidr had different ways of explaining each topic and the totality enabled me to understand in ways that wouldn't have been possible had there only been one or two to watch. Thank you both for putting out your quality content and risking the trolls. This was a brilliant collaboration ❤
I find that the bluntness of being autistic is very noble and desirable for me... I appreciate it more when someone just gets to the point and tells me what they want or need rather than dancing around the topic... Hint: don't small talk me, because I will most likely walk away from the conversation and never understand what someone wanted. And I do prefer talking to other autistic people. Also I find it just as valuable as honesty.
Best crossover episode ever! I find Jenn and Claire to be the most relatable content creators that I reap content from, thanks for the video. Looking forward to the next live stream hangout
"when people say you don't look autistic I think what they really mean is that you don't have the observable traits of autism" Yes! Although the word "look" is used, they're talking about observable behavior, not physical traits.
I absolutely loved seeing you two ladies talking together. I relate to both of you so much and watching you both over the past year has inspired me to be more of myself in more situations and to reach out to a therapist last week to start getting help to sort through past experiences and help with my social anxiety and OCD. I can't thank you enough for putting yourselves out there, it has made me feel less along and that whilst I may be an alien in a human skin there are others out there hiding in human skins too!
This was absolutely refreshing for me! A lot of good things to say but nobody has time to read any TLDR material..lol. I am also the same way preferring to talk to men than women. Your collaboration has been inspiring to me! Many thank yous to both you and Jenn! 😊
I prefer talking to men and non-traditional type women. Girly girl type women and I seem to have an instant dislike for each other and we usually have no interests in common. I don't usually enjoy talking to really macho men either as we usually have no interests in common. But sometimes these stereotypes are broken.
@@Catlily5 Yes! This right here! Now the girls can have likes for girly things (makeup, purses, etc) and I can still handle them, but the majority of the girly girls that I've dealt with act like troublemakers and or at least act like they don't have enough sense to come out of the dang rain. Now that's just my personal experience, aside from the uncommon ground we have, if that makes sense.
It gave me the chills when Claire made sure to also say there are people who cannot share because it may not be safe. I really loved they acknowledged that. I know how scary that can be.
as a male I seem to present a lot like Jenn, I think I too got logician and adhd, also I am not that expressive with my body and as she said sarcasm, friends and not much stimming, makes me hopeful since I do not represent like a typical male, thank you for that talk
Hi Claire and Jenn - thanks so much for this podcast!! So good!! Lots of interesting topics and aspects discussed. Regarding repeating topics in videos over time - I think that is fine because things evolve, and people evolve, society evolves - so you can present evolving perspectives or expand on what you cover. You made me laugh about taking things literally... because, ditto -same here. Really enjoyed seeing this, much gratitude.
+woodshedtheory *I've a tendency to communicate better with women, although I haven't the knowledge for interpersonal relations.* Due to internal, unconscious emotional blocks pathognomonic o' Kanner's Syndrome, and having yet to experience a Guiding Relationship as defined by Steven E. Gutstein Ph.D., I've zero experience with mind guidance and little with dynamic intelligence.
*Addition:* Hans Asperger M.D. was a eugenicist consistent with the majority Germano-Austrian medical profession o' the early 20th Century. The _drittes Reich_ under the _Naзionalsoзialistiche Deutsche Arbeiterpartei_ inherited the bias from the _зweites Reich_ under the Emperors who made Schloß in Berlin.
How exciting!! I love podcasts and listening to you two will be awesome. 🎉🎉❤❤ I never realized how little content exists for autistic adults in the pod world. Most stuff is by parents, professionals, or ADHDers. This is so needed!!!😊😊
Seriously I do have to say thank y’all for coming on and talking about a topic that so many others don’t know much about. Myself as a mother of 2 kids both very high functioning on the spectrum my son and my daughter are very similar but also very different. They are both non verbal my daughter is 6 and just now finding her words she does not conversation or tell us how she feels yet but she is repeating words and is conastantly singing songs word for word and it is the best sound in the world! My son has not found any words yet but I have faith. He’s only 4 and like I said my daughter is 6 and is just now starting. It does make me want to explore the option of maybe looking into myself being misdiagnosed as a kid/teenager because this video has definitely made me realize quite a few things not to say I’m self diagnosing at all but there could absolutely be a possibility I was misdiagnosed it would be great to explore the possibility since I’m just now finding out through this video that autism is hereditary! So all in all I am so grateful for you for putting your time and energy into making this video for us. You’re changing lives! ❤
Thank you for the awesome collab,, Claire and Jenn! I enjoyed and related to so much! I get that about struggling to talk to other women. I have bad social anxiety so talking to anyone new is hard but it's easier for me to connect with my husband's friends sometimes.
That’s interesting your point about communicating with other women compared to with men. Didn’t realise it was something some autistic women can find difficult. Also I am good at giving sarcasm, not always great at picking it up. Great video, looks like you were having fun.
You can choose to censor comments, but everyone does have a right to a platform whether you agree or not. Freedom of speech is extended to all people, even those who have disgusting takes and opinions. It's better to know who the bigots are upfront than allowing them to hide behind censorship. Let them expose themselves... then move on with your day.
Y'all! You are both already paying it forward so much. I can say with complete truth that you guys, along with Taylor Heaton, have opened the door for me to finally see I'm not a broken neurotypical. At 51, I have no more time to waste trying to fit this square peg into another round hole, lol. Thank you. I will definitely come support your live streams, too, Jenn!
Hollie I am so glad to have you here - I know that Taylor and Jenn and I all felt that way before we discovered our diagnosis as well. I know we all hope to build a community of belonging.
Socializing on RU-vid in livestreams is much easier than in person. I always have an easy exit. If I just drop out people will think I had a power outage or lost my internet connection rather than thinking I ran off.
Great video ladies!👏 I find being around guys refreshing too. It's easier to talk to them and I feel like I can be myself. I think my husband is undiagnosed autism as well.
Thank you both for your inspiration. I share all your sentiments. I would love to one day speak with you on your channel, perhaps share about the book ive just written about my diagnosis (searching for publisher). Regardless, it touches me to hear voices so similar to my inner voice and realise im less alone than i thought
I think my first paragraph isn’t going to surprise Claire I’ve talked about it before. There is no such thing as male vs female brain.(I read the science) There is also no male and female autism. There’s just autism. The reason for me that I feel more a kin to the female autism experience is that I am high masking. And some of my experiences are more experienced by females. To give an example I have experienced SA which is usually more of a female experience. So to properly name it it’s the male and female autism experience that is different. But autism is a very unique experience for each person anyway. There are really no two experiences alike. There is a lot of common ground for some people. The other thing I want to comment on is also something I’ve read the science on and that is the Myers-Briggs personality test. This test really doesn’t have a scientific basis. If you read the publications behind it they really can’t prove any of it. I’ve talked to several people that where sad because they figured they where a different personality type then what the test told them. It’s really unimportant stuff anyway. And there is some science that says for autists it might even be harder to be tested. I’m getting ready to start my own channel but perfectionism wants me to get the lighting right first. I always say people can criticize me all they want there will never be a harder critic of me than me. I’m trying my hardest to keep my comment short. So I’ll end it with I haven’t seen any of Jenn’s videos yet( mostly because I’m catching up on videos I’m behind on) but it’s always fun to meet a new friend. Hopefully hyper focus won’t kick in like it did on Claire’s channel because that would cause me to watch and comment on every video. People always think I don’t know how intense that can be but I’m fully aware the problem is I can’t stop it. Great first episode of the podcast ladies can’t wait for the next episode. PS it okay if you only comment every once in a while people like me will more then make up for it.
First of all I would like to say good luck on your channel! You did note you haven't seen any of my videos but I do address the "pseudoscience" of the Myers-Briggs personality testing in a passing comment in my first video. However I have heard feedback from psychologists in various comments that there is usefulness in those results. So I think people argue at both ways. The only reason I ever brought that up was to point out that that was one of the only things I had to grasp on to to explain why I was so different, in the beginning. I also agree that there isn't a "male autism" and a "female autism". It is indeed a spectrum and experienced very differently from person to person. I did an interview with a high masking male where we talk about this. I do think there are a lot more similarities within genders, but no one will ever fit 100% of the things 100% of the time, so in that vein The human condition itself is a spectrum as each of us, autistic or not, are as unique as snowflakes. I feel you on the perfectionism... I thought I needed to have a backdrop before I could start my videos and I finally just ended up filming against a wall in natural sunlight and it worked great. If you can find a window with natural sunlight that is probably the best lighting you could ask for.
@@NeurodiverJENNt I’ll get to your videos in a little while I’ve caught up some on my list. I made it even more difficult for myself the videos I’m going to produce have a theme also I’m in the Netherlands and it’s dark so early sunlight during the winter time isn’t an option. But I have all of the lights in I just need to set stuff up and do some test shots. But I’m cleaning the space up a little bit because it needs it. Plan for the first video is end of this month so I’ll get there. People have told me in the past I was invalidating the female experience. So I had to explain that I jive more with the female experience myself. And I wasn’t invalidating anything.(not saying you’re saying that by the way). It’s just hard for people to grasp at what the differences are. And for most people to be able to understand you almost have to go to general. I answer quite a lot of questions on Quora about autism and there is a lot of people that don’t understand the many ways autism can present itself.
Thank you both for the amazing work you do and your courage sharing your stories and increasing awareness. I love your videos. You both have helped me to understand myself. It's sometimes amazing how many things we have in common. I think in many ways younger people today who can be diagnosed early have it easier than us a little older women (I'm 49). I feel much less weird after hearing about your experiences. I have also learned a lot about how to make accommodations for myself and how to deal with sensory overload and other issues. Thank you ❤
Thank you for my support. I sincerely hope that autistic people have it easier than we did - I hope that one day everyone can live peacefully and successfully.
I wrote a long comment and then my work computer crashed... lost it all. 😭 I'll try to remember (I only had 5 minutes left to the video and a running commentary). I need to remember what I watched this morning. I'm boring, so won't ever make a youtube channel. 😅 I'm INFJ. I've never had male friends. I've never been good at making friends in general. I don't remember what my other comments were. Thank you for this collab. My only issue is that there were ads about every 5 minutes... which was a little distracting. I don't know if there's a better way to do that...
@@WoodshedTheory I figured it was something like that. I don't know why RU-vid put them that often. 😅 I had a Google Doc open and was wondering if ads were really as frequent as it seemed. I wrote down the minutes (not seconds) they happened for a bit [34, 41, 47, 50] So not exactly 5 minutes apart, but they were between 3-7 minutes apart based on what I wrote down. At 50 minute mark is around where my computer crashed but the Google Doc had saved and I didn't delete the time listing yet.😅 I'm weird...
@@NeurodiverJENNt I have a bad tendency to just keep writing my comments as I watch. it's not the first time I've lost it all, though it was one of the most frustrating ones. It's just been one of those days. 😅
I appreciate you ladies and what you do so much. Thank you! I, too, discovered my diagnosis through my kids. I have encountered a lot of the negative comments not through doing videos but through other social media means as a writer and, sadly, a lot of subtle digs about the "real reason for my problems" through relatives and acquaintances. It took me forever to admit the autism in myself. I had not even really admitted to it totally when I wrote a memoir about raising my autistic kids. Proud of my work there and yet question it now through the lens of what I know today. I set out hard in my writing to be the opposite of an "autism mom" that use their kids as a badge, but, still...now, some 8 years later, though the kids say they are happy with the book, I wonder if it was my place to tell their story and what I missed in myself then. I still don't regularly disclose it these days unless the conversation feels open. Like here. I struggle with CPTSD stemming from abuse and abandonment as well, so trust is a huge issue to say the least. Because the abuse was my mom, females are especially hard. So...finding women I can interact with at all, even just in comments here, is a joy.❤ Thanks again. Edited to add: sorry for my lengthy info dump. one of those days obviously. 😏
Thank you so much for this! You're such an inspiration! I recently started a YT channel and I'm editing a few videos now that soon will be posted. It's great to be in the neurodivergent community! Much love to you all! ❤
@@WoodshedTheory I’ve already posted some videos. I’m very new at this so I’m trying to find my own way of creating content. It’s hard! But I feel like this will be something I can do for a long time. 😃
Such a great collab! Thanks Claire and Jenn! 😊 I’m glad I finally got around to watching it…I relate so much to you both. Also on the topic of Myers Briggs, I’m an INFJ. And before I knew about autism I was like “Oh my goodness being an INFJ explains my whole life this is why I feel like an alien and so different, etc!” Lol. But nope, it’s definitely the autism. Autism ACTUALLY does explain my whole life. :)
I was recently diagnosed, but I haven’t told anyone yet. I tend to overshare, so I compulsively want to tell everyone, but I’m also super sensitive. I know for my own mental health, I need to keep quiet as I’d be very heartbroken and anxious if I got any response other than warm support. And also, I may be okay with one or two people knowing, but I’d always worry about them telling someone else that I didn’t want to know. Too much stress for me. I’m so thankful for this online community where I can meet others like me and feel connected. In my day to day life, I plan on just working on being more myself around others (without giving them a label for it), accepting myself, and making my life comfortable for me.
"I understand all the reasons they were combined and that's absolutely um I'm not being critical of any of it what I am saying is that that did just recently happen and I think it's going to take a while for people to understand that now everything is lumped under the uh you know autism umbrella and so that's part of where that ignorance comes from" If you say "I'm autistic", it confuses people because people tend to think of severe autism. It might be better to say "I have a mild form of autism." I think that would make more sense to people, perhaps. (We used to have the term "aspergers", which meant "mild autism". But that term has been taken away from us. It would be nice if we had a word or term for mild autism.)
I just love this video!,hope you guys do a collab again…I admit that I have a hard time with longer videos( attention) but this one went by so fast. Part 2 please!
Before I knew better, I thought that if someone didn't wear a helmet and sit on the floor banging his/her head on the wall, he/she didn't have autism. There is ignorance out there that is no one's fault. I like Jenn's attitude that grace towards ignorance is in order.
I know my friends get annoyed because they think I'm talking about the same thing over and over and I think each time I am adding some new information.
Love this, thank you so much, Jenn and Claire. I'm also late diagnosed (in my 50s), my Myers Briggs is a solid INTJ, I get on much better with men, and other women (presumably NT) have called me a 'cold bitch' when I've not even been trying to be mean😂
Unfortunately there are trolls and most if not all are ignorant. I have gotten dislike comments about my comments. Too bad for them. My only comment to them has been (thanks).
It really does, I was skeptical at first until I got to know some of the people. We are on the spectrum and discord is just another place that you can be yourself and safe.
Loved the back and forth of questioning each other on experiences and then little rabbit trails! Nice to find out about Jenn & her channel i can deep dive on. Thanks for starting the series and looking forward to the next guest.
I hope you feel less alone with the autism communities on RU-vid. You probably already know this, but there are lots of autism YT channels. This channel has an awesome and very supportive community. Claire does a great series called Porch Coffee once a week too 😊😊
Just commenting for the algorithm/engagement to boost the video because I have just started to watch 😂 Probably gonna comment throughout so don't mind my many comments 😅 🫶
