I know we all say “when you have met one Autistic person, you’ve met one Autistic person” but I am always amazed by how similar we are, the struggles we have, our characteristics, our experiences. Of course there are differences, but damn the commonalities are so extensive and go so deep into who we are
Claire, please know that the uniqueness of your channel is what makes you so endearing. Stay safe and listen to your inner boundaries. For sure, retail work decades ago was a learning lesson in the NT world. As you know from literature fans like me, the name of your channel rocks! I do hope the algorithm catches up and sends you more viewers. Orion is right (and helped so many!). You deserve every single one! In the long run, you'll be left standing tall when others have gone because you are doing YT from the heart 💖
I found you both shortly after my diagnosis and I'm so grateful for the communities and content you both created and continue to create. I really appreciate your work! This was lovely! 💞
Count me in the "I like unedited, raw videos" camp. But really, I am grateful for anything I get. Edited, comedy, raw, or scripted, it's all going to be made and seen from an autistic POV, and therefore perfect. Woodshed Theory 4EVER!
I’m am thankful for RU-vid videos! It has connected so many who would have never known they had ASD or other diagnosis. And that so many others are like them!
such an amazing talk! Porch coffee isn't just for Monday's, it is an every morning part of the routine I love seeing the level of intellect and analysis of the world in these podcasts. Keep being your authentic self and i'm sure we'll all stick around 🌈🦄
Y'all we need to make a Burnout Buddies Network! After what Jen and Claire did and watching this it got me thinking why couldn't we all team up against the algorithm when one of our tribe is in burnout. Surely there is enough of us in this community with video skills to be able to throw something together to keep a channel in the algorithm line up. And then the rest of us could go on messaging sprees on older videos or just commit to letting them play even if we aren't watching. Idk just something knocking around my brain.
I really enjoyed this conversation. The last topic on getting long emails from people info dumping on you really hit home. I think being late diagnosed Autistic comes about often times through a great deal of trauma. You don't typically just hit full on burnout that renders you unable to function for no reason. In trying to process it, we find your channels and see people who have had similar experiences and may understand ours. One trauma response is to only want to talk to other people about it that have been there and experienced it. But you guys are not professionals. It is not appropriate to info dump all our trauma on you and would be super hard for you to process all that trauma. Orion's videos, helped me to better understand Autism and to seek a formal diagnosis at 44. I appreciate all the work the Autistic youtube community has put in. Thank you.
3:00 already hitting the feels so hard!!! I dont know what it is, but being complimented is so difficult to handle. At best I can find a compliment in return, but other times I've got nothing, and other worse times I dismiss it. I know it can be just as hard to give compliments too.
21:13 hits it too - when I'm complimented half the time it feels like the person is ignoring their own gifts. Like yeah I'm better at computers and logical reasoning but you're better at medical stuff especially bedside manner. We're equally human so get over it and stop fawning over me!!! Sometimes it's so obvious they're just manipulating me to build up false rapport.
All of your "autistic people talking" videos are such a joy! Thank you for hosting these! This conversation in particular finally gave me the courage to start making videos :)
I thought this was such a lovely video. Retail and service industry is so tough but can be fun. I ran a big bar at 19 yrs old and loved it, until I burnt out!! I am so grateful for the autistic communities that you and Orion, Jen, Mike and other autisitc YTubers have cultivated. It has given me a safe space to be, to learn, to start discovering who I am beneath my mask! Thank you both.
Mr Kelly sir, why didn't you sing sir? 🤣😂🤣😂🤣 5, wow did Arin write a book?! Being understood and seen as we are truly, is everything. Part of the joy of the process is the creation. I'd offer my services, but doing it for someone else is too stressful, way to much pressure.
@@WoodshedTheory He's such a good sport, you both are. We all need a little sunshine. Thanks for a serious case of the smiles. Also, the name is brilliant and yeah.
Loved this. I’m so glad you’re doing this podcast Claire! I also love watching longer videos. My favorites are like hour long vlogs or art videos or crafty things or video essays. And I realized I have to do my channel my way for it to be fun otherwise I’ll burnout quickly, so if I can’t keep a consistent schedule and my channel grows very slowly then that’s the way it will be. Also porch coffee is my favorite. ❤
Love this video, omg it's like oxygen. I have wondered/worried about the emotional toll for you, and hope that there can be work/life balance into the future. Sounds like you need some kind of autistic collective of podcasters, to support each other so you get to take breaks. Was the chainsaw for the wood in the woodshed.....Thanks again for an awesome podcast!!!! 💖💖
We all should be meeting each other at bluesky, I’m enjoying a good community there already! ❤ I really love your videos and everything you both do, it’s very important for me! I enjoy it so much just relaxing and feeling relations.
Just started watching and just have to say already: Orion feeling terrible and agitated about the compliments in the intro (how I feel every time when people do that with me when interviewing me) - your reaction saying you'd just say "Thank you, that's so kind" is basically what I do as well... but inward, my reaction is 100% how Orion reacts about openly haha.
Interesting to hear how y'all manage your channels. Long content for the win! I put on longer videos most of the day. The short videos are good for very specific how to do x thing. The yt "shorts" category is nice for quick commentary or clips of longer content. Worked retail for several years. It's tiring! I've been out of the work force for 9 years. If i go back to working for someone else, I'd go in with a lot less fs to give and not take on my role so personally. Would save a lot of frustration for myself.
Absolutely love this! Thank you guys for this! I do feel a little terrible though because I havent watched some of your videos. Please forgive, I am still navigating burnout. Also, thank you both for talking about youtube and the pros and cons behind it.
@WoodshedTheory I know and I won't. Just trying to say (in a weird sorta way) that you have my full support, even though I won't be able to watch everything you post. 😝
At 30:00 sounds like the way I have always watched RU-vid videos - more similar to watching tv. Not on a tv screen though, but on a desktop or iPad. And I have always liked slightly longer videos.
If I ever get the opportunity to interview this guy again I'm either going to make it a 20-minute session of over introducing him... Or acting like I'm irritated he's taking up my time. There is no in between. Claire sorry I know you don't like it when people say this but you look so beautiful... And sorry I'm not flirting with you It was fun to hear a little bit more about Orion's backstory And Claire... Did you do an impersonation of my impersonation at the end of this video? Ladies and gentlemen we have achieved impersonation inception...
I see 5 Orions. I'm horrible at compliments. I'm like "thanks, but..." I point out what's wrong with me or what I've done...😅 I tend to feel I don't deserve compliments. I worked at Walmart as a cashier one Christmas season... I think that was enough retail for me... Is it a 2 edge sword or a double edge sword? RU-vid put this video at the top of my feed this morning (right after an ad one). Most the videos I watch are usually around 20 minutes +. One D&D channel I watch they went from trying to keep their videos around 20 minutes long... to doing ones that are close to an hour. I watch RU-vid on my laptop. Oh, I've heard channels say in the past that there have been points when people were unsubscribed to channels, but it wasn't them that unsubscribed... not sure if it was a youtube glitch or what, but they would say something like "youtube likes to unsubscribe people, so check and make sure you're still subscribed!" Why would "to be honest" be the start of a lie? That doesn't make sense at all. 🤔 {I didn't comment on one of your recent videos because I watched it at work and didn't get a chance to. I need to find time to go back and rewatch and comment... My niece's birthday party is tomorrow and I need to finish making things and wrapping today...then I'm away tomorrow...maybe Sunday.} It's a clever channel name. 😅 I read Frankenstein waayyyy back in college. I don't remember much about it. I wonder if the saw sponsor was because the channel name. Maybe they thought it was a woodworking channel and didn't actually look at the channel? Where do you live? Orion lives in Australia and Claire lives in the US in a woodshed. 😆 The end. That's the answer. Great podcast. Sorry for writing a novella again...😅
This talk was great, I feel like I’ve got to know Orion a bit better now 😊 My Autistic understanding of some types of humour can be a bit slow and I was confused by his humour before. It makes more sense to me now.
I absolutely love your videos/content, Claire and I watch Orion and listen to his podcasts too. I have also subscribed to NeurodiverJENNt as well. You guys are awesome!
Yes, life before diagnosis is so painful. I appreciate when you talked about “boxes”. So many boxes! I’m like a border of boxes😢. But I am unboxing them. I’m 59 self diagnosed in past year. On wait list for official d. My grandson was diagnosed about a year ago. 💡 My life experience started to fall into place. Doing extensive research to be able to support my grandson actually began to explain my life experiences. I am autistic ❤. This realization can help my husband of 40+ yrs begin to see Me. I am no longer able to compensate for the NTs that surround me. They need to get a clue!
Thank you. Personally I’ve never been able to watch highly edited vids and the constant jump cuts create a complete unnatural non human version of speaking. I am in 40’s so it’s definitely a Gen X thing. However there is more to it. I gravitate to that which is more real, authentic, the good the bad the ugly, and longer form. It’s important for developing and sustaining attention span too. Thank you both very much.
Hi Claire, no need to respond, I just wanted to say I appreciate that you and Orion like to do your own format and style, and you should stick to it. Do what you love, and don't worry about the pressure from others who think they know best. I do watch you on TV and others and I appreciate the time to just hear you and guests while I'm pretending to multitask ;) Thanks for doing what you do.
You folks are hilarious! I love how you bounce off each other. I didn't see this until now..where was I? Anyway love you folks x Looking forward to this convo. I'm gonna take you in the bath with me as it's already drawn...oooh la-di-da I'm English don't you know :D Anyone for Tea..?
You brought up a good point about guarding yourself on social media... I am just starting on RU-vid, but I have had similar experiences as a visual artist where buyers can think we are closer than we actually are because they think they know me but I don't know them. I have had a a couple of scares. My biggest painting sale to date resulted in stalking and obsession. I literally had to move and change my social media profiles, website, and phone number. Now I feel a bit self cringe because I did write to two RU-vidrs that I resonated with and I hope that they did not feel put upon or weary. However, I only sent one email and it was after we had spoken back in forth a lot in their live streams and through chats on social media. Also, my emails were asking specific things like about advice on software/equipment etc for starting off and if they would like to do a video together in the future after I have polished up some. And I also prefaced the request with "Do you/would you feel comfortable..." I also acknowledge that it may be hard to reply or state how they truly feel - we are autistic and there is a line between fans and collaborators. So I said "I will understand and not be offended if you do not feel comfortable or are busy, etc." I think I partly do this because I am unsure what is socially acceptable in the situation and if I am crossing an invisible boundary for them and partly because I lack awareness of how someone will perceive me- will they read my good intentions or be skeptical? Am I even worthy of this person's time? To be honest, when you were talking about this part in the podcast I felt something- I have a hard time recognizing my feelings but I could tell I felt bad (worried maybe)? But I also felt an impulse to be reactive (I think this was a threat response). Perhaps it has something to do with RSD. But in the immediate moment I felt like I was on the outside looking in and I would never be accepted- I have had this feeling my whole life- not knowing where I fit in. And I think I have found a place in the online Autism community, and at my local artist collective. I realize that this is an extremely long post but I am better able to process this way. And while it's not important for me to make a living off RU-vid, or to grow a huge audience, I hope that I continue to make connections and I hope that they are mutually meaningful. Anyway, thank you for your content, honesty, and saying things that are hard to say. With that, I wonder: has Claire ever made a halter top out of yarn. I am still learning to crochet but I have a Masters in Fine Arts in Painting and am also work in many other mediums. I think it would be fun to watch you make one- especially if I get to learn how in the process. Is there anything you would like to learn? Maybe I can make a video on it. I was an art teacher for years. Okay, take care Claire!!!!
Hi Katja, I am sorry if what we said worried you, it sounds like your emails were fine. I don't think they sound too personal. Yes! I think I've made several halter tops (not my own design) they are fun to make!
We have a community TV station but no community radio station. And ironically you have to have to subscribe to cable TV to get the community TV channel. I am in the USA.
I don't think either of you needed to work retail to learn to be respectful to retail workers. You are probably both already that empathetic and respectful. It's really beautiful and I recognize it in myself, too, this capacity to appreciate humbling experiences. But, you two were probably already respectful and aware.
I didn't know the reasoning for your name and I am a huge Frankenstein fan. You have blown my mind. I have never made this connection with my adoration for the monster. 😢 ❤
I believe everyone should work retail, fast food, or restaurant wait staff for at least 3 months in order to gain empathy for service workers. Like Orion, I don't remember a lot of things, I know that things happened growing up, but the memory of it isn't there most of the time.
I’m relatively new here, I love porch coffee by the way, I watched my first one yesterday. It’s like sitting with a friend without having to leave my house vibes ☺️ As far as your name goes I learnt it’s from Orion’s lives when he’s like Claire from the woodshed theory is in the comments isn’t she etc etc 😅 And then the algorithm sent you my way ☺️
I love that you don’t have teams managing your content. Usually I can tell when people get a team. Suddenly their social media and comments feel different. It feels like a product being sold to me.
Sorry, I had to pause halfway through. I'm sorry, I have shared way too much. I feel terrible now. I usually think about these things, but finally seeing someone who understands, it was like a dam broke. See, I can't even get it right in my own tribe.
@@WoodshedTheoryI know, and I know you all care too, I wrote to someone with a whole list of life events and if it was worth making a channel about it. I take things on too, I feel others emotions strongly, and that's why I feel terrible. I didn't stop to think if it was a good idea or not, for all my smarts, I can be so dense at times. In my defence my mind was a scribble at the time.
@@WoodshedTheorymy comments are fine at least I hope so, and I understand algorithms, so it's another way to show support. But what I sent was an email, well, I know not to do that again. As old as I am I'm learning every day. Thanks.
The reason you got an offer of a chainsaw is because you have ‘wood’ in your channel name. Methinks the love doll may have been for the same reason…😉 I think perhaps there could be AI or algorithms involved in some of these sponsorship offers.
The short video format thing is the least interesting on the internet. Content that people really put in some work to regardless if its 10 minutes or 60 minutes. Mostly watch podcast that are 60-90 min.
I think just relating to what you guys are saying, makes us, as subscribers/viewers want to share our experiences back. I don't (well I can say for myself personally) think that we expect a reply or a like - sure it would be great - but it's not expected. We understand that you are sharing your own personal experiences, not you 'expert' opinions.
OMG you SHOULD change it to "Claires autistic"! (Or don't, you do you but I like it) but really look it's science -> woodshed + algorithm = chainsaw buyers! Claires Autistic + algorithm = target audience! Orion said it, algorithms are dumb
You would say that I am an idiot, Orion because I am terrible at self checkout! But I avoid them whenever possible. I think different people like different lengths of videos. You aren't a therapist!
As a viewer, the length needs to match the content. I'm gonna hate a 20 minute video with only one point, even if it's life-changing. Not much bothers me more in an IRL conversation than someone repeating themselves to me. Tangents are fine though, because even though they're off topic they're still new information.
Some people can't help repetition. I try to be understanding in those situations. I do understand what you mean though, it is a little frustrating for me too.
@@AwesomeFish12 My soulmate is one of those, so I've been learning a lot of patience 😂 Thinking about it, maybe it's one of those things like in an RPG that you can't proceed until you select the right line of dialogue... Like ok the in-depth engagement looped us back to where we started, playing devil's advocate definitely didn't work either, maybe I should try simple sympathy?
SEO burn. SEO and analytics talk, I love it. But you can certainly get lost in it. I did it for a job and it's a lot of work and constant learning in the job. Staying on top of everything is nearly impossible.
