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00:00 Start
01:29 What's Changed
05:12 V2 VTX
08:09 The New Cameras
12:00 Weights
12:20 VTX Antenna
13:20 VTX Teardown
14:12 20x20 Mounting
14:47 Single Antenna vs MIMO
18:04 Avatar VTX GPS Performance
19:51 Cameras Bench Testing
22:02 Cam Testing - Outdoor Flights
23:19 Micro V1
25:07 Micro V2
27:18 Micro Cam Summary
28:30 Pro Polar Camera Day Time
31:31 Pro Polar Camera Evening Flight
34:59 Pro Polar Camera Night Test
40:02 Thoughts and Summary
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@CADDXFPV Год назад

Mads,Thanks for sharing you experience with your followers!😀

@heliharris69 Год назад

Great review... No one does it better... Your presentations are always easy to follow. Even to those that are new to the hobby.

@MajorGeneralHavoc Год назад

Thank you for this very thorough review! Its super helpful and I really enjoyed it. Cool to see Caddx listening to us and making good improvements!

@ghafoorhussain6677 Год назад

Good info Mad one!! thank you for doing it all in one video, lots of effort on your part but it meant i had something to watch through out my lunch break :-) Cheers

@biggfpv2721 Год назад

That starvis sensor is beautiful compared to others... to me anyway

@terminsane Год назад

Yeah, it looks even better than their polar cameras for dji

@DavidOwensuk Год назад

Ian, what an amazing video! So much work so much information.Thank you.

@afterburnerrc6333 Год назад

Awesome review Mad! Looking forward to the low-light CAM, winter sucks here in Michigan LOL.

@remainsmemories626 Год назад

26:01 I love how that lag on the bottom is perfectly synched with the beat

@skyweaver3199 Год назад

What even is that?

@disco.volante Год назад

Thanks! Great Overview.

@mmineque Год назад

Colors on starvis are beautiful.

@Chillin-fpv Год назад

Wow that starvis camera is amazing! 😍

@FATSNAIL-FPV Год назад

Great video Mads! Watched this before I checked out the other usual suspects. felt like I should after our little run in on the live chat after your 30min DJI rant. That river looks like a great area for some long range (testing). So happy they finaly changed the antenna holding plate with bolts and not those pesky stripping philipshead screws!

@McLogo76 Год назад

Great full detailed review! 👍

@pepermintpilot1694 Год назад

Great info. Thanks mate!

@dodo-wo6jb Год назад

Best review on universe!

@AlfieDoug Год назад

Not an Avatar user but love the bracket idea for testing on different frames, will have make one for my Vista now, it's so obvious that I never thought of it 😄

@WarriorLife_fpv Год назад

I was thinking about how I could make my 03 air units modular the other day. It shouldn’t be difficult to make a slide in pnp unit swappable between frames

@c666viper666 Год назад

great review! thanks for that!

@MadRC Год назад

Thanks.

@werewolf_pl Год назад

Great review, as always :) I'm looking forward to more in-depth GPS tests with the new vtx. I was hoping that they can somehow software-fix it with the old one, but I don't think it's possible.

@scottyfpv7069 Год назад

Another great video Ian. I’m still on the fence on moving away from the DJI Fpv v2 goggles and vistas and going with the hd zero goggles and the walksnale vtx and the new pro versions of the walksnale v2.

@GeorgeCee Год назад

Finally a 4x3 sensor camera! I couldn't push hard with the 16x9 due to limited vertical. Looking forward to swapping out the crappy 16x9 for 4x3. Awesome. Thankyou for all of the new information. 😀

@MadRC Год назад

Thanks 😊

@FlyZoneFpv Год назад

Awesome testing Ian . Yeah I’ve noticed some jello on the new micro v2

@MadRC Год назад

Tbh mine was not mounted well either.

@Clickmaster5k Год назад

I like the V1 VTX better but I am not using them in multi rotor. The dual antenna is really valuable in some aircraft. I hope they continue to produce the V1. The new cameras seem pretty sweet & its nice they work with the V1 VTX. With some aircraft, such as heli, two antenna is really important to not have the frame block the signal due to the layout.

@wattage2007 Год назад

Agreed about the antenna. Don't know what they were thinking about changing back to just one.

@Aspir3 Год назад

Really like this system :)

@AerialWaviator Год назад

Superb and complete overview of v2, pro Avatar components and comparisons. Generally flying a bit higher up, the quality of Avatar is great. Down low with lots of detail, there are a few artifacts, but very usable. Great progress over the last 12 months. At 21:50, is that a IR LED source in upper left seen for Pro 2 camera, which didn't appear with the other two cameras? There was an odd streak effect at 26:02. I assume DVR related, as in encoding artifact?

@mmosca Год назад

Looking forward for the follow up videos.

@DrFrantic77 Год назад

I still love the HD PRO KIT

@NikolayBrovkin Год назад

Now just necessary to compare the new Walksnail Avatar Pro Night Vision Digital Camera (0.00001Lux) and old Caddx Polar for DJI FPV (0.00003Lux)?

@gammagonad1657 Год назад

The Walksnail system is now finally looking like a viable competitor...for the DJI V1 system, other than Walksnail beating the DJI V1 by not having that hard range limit. I do like the fact that it isn't made by DJI. Caddex is much more likely to listen to the community. In my opinion, the way they shot themselves in the foot, is not puting any type of signal in port on the goggles for analog. Though I mainly fly digital, I still regularly fly analog on micros and some mid to long range quads. I sold my HDOs almost 2yrs. ago, and I'm still able to enjoy fly micros via the BDI adaptor and Fusion module. Keep it up Walksnail, theres still plenty of time/opportunity for DJI to totally piss me off. Until then, I will keep enjoying the 20 Vistas that I already have, and the 3 new O3 units that I just invested in. Maybe I'll take another look, when Walksnail can also offer 4K on board recording...sooo nice. Great and very thorough review Ian!

@IchySacFPV Год назад

Is the MIPI connection the same as The Vista at the VTX...?? Could these work with the Vista...Seems a lot like the Caddx Polar pro low light camera..Great video thanks for the work.😎

@BoondockStryker Год назад

I would like to see a comparison video with analog. Since they were the king of night time flying. I wasn’t expecting much from DJI and didn’t disappoint lol

@eatyourvegfpv Год назад

Thanks for the very informative video, Ian. I like the long-term videos that give as much info as possible. I'm interested in the V2 camera especially. If only for the 4:3 capability really. The starlight camera doesn't float my boat as I wouldn't personally consider your very low light footage to be flyable in much of a meaningful way, but there's no denying it seems the best option for low light digital right now for sure. I also don't like fisheye lenses and that puts me off having one as my main camera, just for the odd occasion I'd want to fly in low light. I noticed you kept calling it the "polar" camera throughout your video and I doubt Caddx (or DJI for that matter) appreciate that, so maybe best just to refer to it as their starlight camera in future so as not to confuse it with the actual Polar camera for DJI. Thanks again for the video 👍

@MadRC Год назад

It’s name on the marketing docs sent to me was actually the CaddX Avatar Polar camera so that’s why I was using that name.

@eatyourvegfpv Год назад

@@MadRC Gotcha. I can't see it being called anything other than the Pro camera on their website/marketing bumf though so that's weird.

@gilbertorochacosta7053 Год назад

I just hope that the V2 be more durable then the last one and that the antenna be way better too

@JohnCuppi Год назад

Great overview, thanks. Hey, Ian, your affiliate link is broken though. 🙌

@SK.SHAHED Год назад

I will mount a flight controller upside down Now I gave 180 degree on roll axis this is ok. Now if I want to change the yaw axis with inverted placement then should I give the value of the direction in which I want to change or should I give the opposite value?

@snoopdogg5981 9 месяцев назад

Im just gonna put the new pro cam on my old vtx. Since they’re compatible and I like my two antennas.

@IanBeaty Год назад

How does the low light capability compare to HDZero cameras? For my use case this is an important question.

@divingfalconfpv4602 Год назад

Wait it saves gyro data on v1 vtx. I thought it didn't. Firmware update?

@slappomatthew Год назад

I still wish the vtx had onboard type C, but otherwise the new v2 standard 4:3 kit with 20x20 and single antenna is as prefect as I could wish for. this will bolt straight into any new frame not the 5 with a 25x25. I JUST got a v1 vtx off a long pre-order for my apexDC build and this new one is so perfect for the build I will have to order one of these now...

@Hugehugeone Год назад

DJi didn’t choose cross polarization for that reason. They did so then be so close as in a single shell.

@MCsCreations Год назад

FANTASTIC review, Ian! Thanks a bunch for all the info! 😃 To be honest, although it still doesn't have an SD card slot, it's much better than I expected! Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊

@anthonyfpvminiquad1728 Год назад

V2 pro looks really oversharpened and looks similar to me to the nebula nano pro. The low light ability is cool, but for most it's a gimmick. Dynamic range seems better than o3 now, but still seems shit and highlights basically get blown out once shadows start taking up 25% or more of the image.

@Fly_High_FPV Год назад

How does the new pro camera compare with the polar pro?

@rolliseventeen Год назад

caddx polar side by side comparison in next video? :-)

@maksymklets621 Год назад

Hi there, could you please give me an advice me. Is it possible to pair cinelog 35 v2 Performance HD Avatar to DJI Goggles V2 ?

@robertdroner Год назад

But Ian, when will it record the OSD as seen in the goggles? ( I know, I am late...)

@buster9pcj 3 месяца назад

I need help so i cant find which type of screwdriver head i need to remove the plate to fix the antenna

@visioneerone Год назад

all those upgrades and it looks like Caddx hasn't jacked up the price of the kits! next step - replace the onboard storage with sd-card support? please? e : perhaps there are some discounts coming on the V1 VTXs and cameras?

@CosmicSlopVibrations 5 месяцев назад

I’ll buy when there’s live audio

@erikj5626 Год назад

Is the DJI 03 on the latest firmware update. Because with the new update, I’m getting better low light capability.

@MadRC Год назад

Yes that was latest firmware.

@verdi08 Год назад

Hi Ian, I love night flying. Is it better than the dji caddx polar starlight?

@ChrisRosser Год назад

Yes. In my opinion it's the best low light camera for digital.

@gammagonad1657 Год назад

@@ChrisRosser I agree, but I rarely even ever want to fly in the dark. If I needed to theres always the polar. Definitely not switching from DJI for that alone. BTW, I love your 4 new frames that I bought in the last few weeks. I haven't flown them all yet, but I dig the design. The UL7 is Definitely interesting, and I really like the Cine25...great work!

@elxero2189 Год назад

Stick your gps unit on the quad's front arm. You'll get lock no problem. If you insist on sticking it right on the back next to the vtx you'll have issues😊

@vertibirdfpv Год назад

Mad! For the 20x20 mounting, are the holes threaded?

@MadRC Год назад

Yes.

@tomsop Год назад

I am confused with onboard storage vs. VRX card slots. Do we need to access onboard storage DVR if we have the walksnail VRX where video gets recorded to an SD card? Maybe I am missing out on the features of onboard storage - is it better quality compared to what gets sent to the SD card in my VRX?

@MadRC Год назад

Yes it’s a higher quality on the storage onboard the VTX. You don’t have to use it but it’s direct to the unit rather than with the over the air compression.

@icp-trek Год назад

Ian, it does look as if the dynamic range problem that plagued the avatar system for so long is not nearly as pronounced in the video that you showed for this comparison. Is that due to firmware or light conditions during your flights?

@MadRC Год назад

Tbh I think it’s the light. It’s hard to show in this time of year as there is less foliage. I thing in bright conditions it’s still going to be there.

@Mupshot Год назад

20x20 thank you caddx. 25 was silly. Those solder pads are to connect to the fc? I was hoping it would let me connect a female USBC port so I could discard the silly data plug

@MadRC Год назад

Yea i do wish there was usb C too

@aerialimagery3216 Год назад

Did you adjust the 03 shutter speed (not frame rate) that makes a huge difference in low light.

@MadRC Год назад

Their is no shutter on the O3. You can adjust the Manual setting as I did but your still limited by the Iso and sensor Behaviour.

@guatemalamini Год назад

They did improve a lot, still. Ill stick to dji vista or o3.. Dji still. King of HD fpv

@Mupshot Год назад

Do you know why caddx makes us plug in a lipo to read the onboard storage? There is a 5v input on the cable. Is it connected to anything?

@sasasasa-lx6cl Год назад

My guess is that they wanted to protect the board and the USB port and the cheapest way to do it was by separating the circuits. Otherwise connecting powered quad to USB may fry both. May be it was last-minute modification to the board after they discovered the issue during testing :) Still very inconvenient.

@janezt Год назад

Is gyro data transmitted to VRx or only stored on vtx?

@arvidbjorkstrom6554 Год назад

VTX only according to this ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-IFDkwY1pIjE.html

@TheFruitcake1983 Год назад

What about overheating? I had to install coolers on my modules to prevent overheating.

@MadRC Год назад

No need in good air.

@higormoreira8339 Год назад

Is it still necessary to connect the battery to the drone to get the footage?

@MajorGeneralHavoc Год назад

yes. with every drone on the market right now. yes.

@sullytrny Год назад

Firmware version ?

@erikvf7 Год назад

Now the fight is: Avatar Pro Starvis Camera x OG Caddx Polar 😄

@MadRC Год назад

Yea, 100%.

@johnkurpiewski3996 Год назад

Can you please confirm both sides of the 20x20 mounting holes has threads ?

@MadRC Год назад

Yea both do

@johnkurpiewski3996 Год назад

@@MadRC Thank you 🙏

@chan6565 Год назад

I think you affiliate link is broken

@Seii-FPV 11 месяцев назад

How difficult would it be to DIY that USB cable (new, wider JS side one)? I've recently purchased XI25PPro, with Avatar HD Pro v2 unit inside, from OddityRC. I did not receive that USB-A to JS connector (or whatever it's called) so I could download videos from the Avatar Air Unit (32Gb). Is there any other way of downloading videos, or am I out of luck? What is the exact name of that cable, so I can maybe search some local stores? I've tried contacting OddityRC, but there is no reply since June 16th.

@MadRC 11 месяцев назад

Speak with CaddX they will sort you out.

@Seii-FPV 11 месяцев назад

@@MadRC - Thank you! Got in touch with Caddx directly and they pointed me to specific cable which is US$3+ only.. I've ordered 2 just in case and they should be here in about a week and a half. Not sure why OddityRC thinks we won't need this cable, so they're shipping their quads without it.

@CappaGTC Год назад

26:01 drop was synced with the glitch 🤣

@visioneerone Год назад

beat dropped so hard it glitched the signal✊

@rizzofox8689 Год назад

Hello,is the HD Pro version camera compatible with the original V1 VTX?

@wattage2007 Год назад

According to CADDX, yes.

@rizzofox8689 Год назад

@@wattage2007 thanks

@terminsane Год назад

Are those antennas worth using? Are they just rebranded rush cherrys made by truerc? Also: No 16:9? Sadface

@Hugehugeone Год назад

Cherry aren’t made by TrueRC, but stolen after we worked with them.

@WATCHMAKUH Год назад

Avatar HD Pro states 1080p 120fps…so the walksnail goggles are not able to pick up the 1080p higher frame rate? It automatically changes the resolution instead?

@MadRC Год назад

There is no 1080p 120 or 100 modes today. There is a lot of confusion over this and I have asked CaddX for confirmation

@TopCrinkly68 Год назад

What power has the vtx got ,Please!!

@MadRC Год назад

Same as before. Upto 1200mw

@TopCrinkly68 Год назад

@@MadRC many thanks!

@stevietee10 Год назад

13:35 so this means that to fit the longer camera cable you have to open the unit, no problem but undesirable 😐

@matthewbradley8971 Год назад

Unfortunate that DJI is still two steps ahead with their 1080p 100fps transmission modes. 720p or 1080p60 just isn't in the same class. We need to be able to combine these cameras with the O3 system for the perfect set up.

@mlynx07129 Год назад

The v1 seem better than the v2 but don't good as the Pro kit. So pro kit > v1 > v2

@dronejunkiefpv9556 Год назад

Like 386

@princesfpvdrones Год назад

All footage I have seen from this system is a bunch of muddy video, they still have a way to go for sure!

@MadRC Год назад

Just remember RU-vid butchers most of the content. In the real view it’s very decent. Not perfect but zero issues with how it is now.

@princesfpvdrones Год назад

@@MadRC I am too spoiled with DJI camera quality.

@tk-maker Год назад

O3 at 30fps lol, that is not fair compare.... make it 60fps lol. I have DJI polar, dosent feel it is better

@MajorGeneralHavoc Год назад

lower fps is better for low light. 30 fps lets in significantly more light than 60 fps. He was trying to show the O3 at it's best in low light performance. If the walksnail could do 30fps he would have dropped it to that, because it would have been even brighter.

@tk-maker Год назад

@@MajorGeneralHavoc I understand his doing, flying 30fps at nigh quite risky for fast move. I dont even wana fly at 30fps

@typxxilps Год назад

I have now over 12 Walksnail Avatar videos from the last 24 hours all about low light and low latency. Last month I got my first non dji drone just to get a good low light drone (nano evo plus or so) and it paid off in the first moment, but after watching the footage I realised that the big step is the progress in comparison to the past or what DJI had offered even though the footage is barely useable for anything cause too many will complain about the darkness and poor quality compared to any daylight footage. Therefore I had to send the drone back and stay with dji again cause it does not make sense to have a low light drone if the footage is barely useable. But who knows what dji will offer with their next iteration in the fleet.

@Bill-NM Год назад

Why oh WHY do they use that darn proprietary USB connector? And every transmitter has a different sized connector than the others? So a person has to keep track of all of them? Good grief. Walksnail - PLEASE just use a usb-c connector. How hard can that be? And while you are at it. How about a micro SD card slot? Why make it SO hard to get video files out of the transmitter?