I got a Pace Aventon ebike from Berts. How can I keep the ebike battery charged at the same time as I'm ridding to increase my distance. The Pace ebike is 500w and the charger is 48v.I have a Ever Start 750w Power Inverter and I attached it with a Scooter battery. So I went to Inter State and showed him how I hooked the battery to it to keep the ebike battery charged .He told me sense the charger is 48v I need 4 small batteries to make it 48v cause each battery is 12v. But see 1 scooter battery powered on the 750w power inverter. He told me to little volts can mess up some thing . Can any 1 add on that please ??
Contacted their support a while back about the computer/battery. The display shows you how much you have left at your pedal assist level if you were to keep going at it so you dont get caught somewhere and out of battery so if you keep going at level 5, the battery on the display will drain faster and be reflected. Im not sure if what i said makes sense, but they told me to just worry about the display more than the battery itself. I've been able to install a suspension fork and straighter bars and it runs great now. You can a tapered fork with quick release dropouts and it should fit the bike well enough, though you might need a 20mm adapter for the front brakes.
Bought one when my car broke down and no part to fix it so no ETA as to when. No rentals, no loaners, hello ebike. The PACE had excellent reviews so that’s what I got. I commuted to work on it every day until the temperature dropped into the teens and did some recreational rides as well. I love this bike-it’s a blast to ride. I put a longer seat post on it so I could stretch my legs out a bit and also added the fenders and a rear rack. Rode through a deluge one day with rivers and lakes on the trail; it was the best bike ride I’ve ever had. I don’t know what the hangup some people have with the swept-back handlebars is but I love ‘em. There are two ways to raise the handlebars but Aventon doesn’t show either in their video. If you buy an assembled bike make sure the shop adjusts the handlebars to the height you want. If you assemble it yourself you’ll have to figure out how to do it. I ride this bike on roads with 40 mph speed limits and I feel like I fit right in with the traffic at 28 mph. I could never do that with my road bike. In 90 days I put 814 miles on the bike-it’s a really fun ride.
I just bought one and have five rides in for about 32 miles. So far so good. I love the bike. From throttle to 5 levels of pedal assist to 8 manual gears you have many choices. Now no matter where I ride I can make it through without "walking" the bike and still get a good workout.
Nice review Kevin! You should do some more ebike reviews in this price range. Not to cheap so some quality should be there. If I was going to buy a ebike this would be in my price range.
@@hammer2787 not as much as a good welder and a good aluminium tig/tags weld should look like a row of coins on there side if it dost it been sanded or isn't very good
@@hammer2787 They are charging $1400 for the bike, grinding is relatively cheap and easy. Paint was going to be added either way. I'm hoping they did it to make the bike look nicer, since that's fine. The issue is, most welders only grind down their welds if they are done poorly, since you can't tell after it has been grounded down.
@@IrishBiteGirl It's got nothing to do with what the welder wants. If the manufacturer wants smooth welds they'll be instructed to smooth them out. I'd say they;re decent, they run strait and arent choppy on the edges. Even my trek enduro bike has sanded welds, makes the frame look seamless.
@@EricFB All I'm saying is that it makes it much harder to tell if the weld is bad or not when sanded and ground down smooth like that. Of course if you trust the brand, like Trek, no issue then imo. I just personally wouldn't be rough on any bike with sanded (hidden) welds if I didn't know and trust the brand. I do understand it isn't the welder's choice, no blame on them.
Great Review in depth and i appreciated the part of the video where you rode the bike and showed how fast the bike travels and what that looks like in real time.
The thing with those LCD monitors is that they were originally designed to work with SLA batteries not Lithium so they don't accurately read the battery charge. I had the same problem with mine from my kit. It shows 4 bars of juice left and then about a half mile later the battery is out of enough power to supply the motor so it shuts off.
@@KevCentral The motor controllers in ebikes and kits have a low voltage cutoff that keeps the battery from being over discharged to protect it from damage. The computer is reading the voltage left and not the capacity. The pack might still have plenty of capacity left but if the voltage drops below the cutoff, the controller shuts down. The battery packs are wired up in series parallel to get both higher voltage and higher capacity because the cells are smaller and there's more of them. SLA battery packs just tend to be wired in series because each battery is much larger and already has a higher capacity and voltage but they have a horrible discharge and don't last as long as Lithium packs. Your 48V battery pack is actually closer to 54-56V at full charge and I believe the standard low cutoff is at 42 volts.
Suggestion Kev: Loosen the stem and listen to it click. Then tighten it down. I love those bars and use them of a few bikes i own. Set them forward and you will find your lower arms will love you for that.....he he great bike!
ok, bike arrived,, assembly was fairly smooth, my first test ride made me laughed,, out loud :-) it really has a great assist, I was only on assist 3 and laughed, this is my 3rd ebike,, I am impressed, thanks again for your post
@@90slimit1 I originally had a Raleigh Tekoa E1, I put 3700 miles on it,,,hard to bad mouth it since it was 4 years ago and I think ebikes were getting a start, battery hard to be replaced after a year,, 500 bucks, Then I moved up to a Haibike 6.0 Full 9, miss it and I sold it because I was moving, but with all thats going on, I needed something to tide me over, I just got in and can't say one negative thing about this bike, its very nice to ride, great assist in pedal and great throttle mode which I have to admit I used today on all the steep hills, its enjoyable. My Haibike was 4400, and worth it, this Pace I think is worth more than the 1399.
I like the idea of eBikes for commuters and people who have injuries or pains that keep them from riding a regular bike, but other than in those cases I feel they negate the beauty of the simplicity and efficiency of a traditional bike. Also, eBikes seem a bit dangerous for other bike path users considering the speeds they can reach. With those critiques aside, this bike looks pretty well built and those welds are crazy clean! Keep up the good work Kev.
Daniel Ruezga As a perfectly capable rider who has converted his bike to electric, I see where you’re coming from with regards to the simplicity argument. I do, however, believe that the question of speed is more a matter of regulation and enforcement than the technology itself, since legally an ebike in the U.S., Canada, and Mexico can only have power up to 20 mph, where in most of Europe it’s 15. Something like this is legally speaking a moped, and needs to be registered and operated as such. A bike within the legal category of electric assist bicycle can only go as fast as 20 mph under its own power - far slower than many trail users already ride, at least where I’m from. I believe that if the laws classifying and regulating ebikes could be properly enforced, they would be much safer to all around them, and they wouldn’t have the negative reputation they do now. If you are looking for a more graduated system, check out California’s 5-class ebike laws.
@@21Trainman The regulatory agencies just need to chill, IMO. The U.S. lacks the bicycle infrastructure of many European countries; and all the micromanagement and cracking down does is make commuter cycling that much less a viable alternative to our congested roads and highways.
Whatever gets people out and exercising, even a bit, is a plus I believe. Especially in countries with widespread and rampant obesity. For once you're outside you'll likely do other things, and move around, and less likely fall prey to depression or compulsory eating.
@@EditioCastigata I feel bikes can already serve that purpose, but eBikes kind of reduce the excersise factor and make riding the bike easier by doing part (if not most) of the work. In a previous video Kev himself said he had to lay off riding his eBike because he was gaining weight. To me, eBikes seem like a "cool new toy" like a hoverboard or air pods. If not used by someone with physical issues, an eBike just seems like an underpowered scooter or moped and less like an efficient human-powered machine. Just my thoughts.
@@ThatClassic70sGirl Yeah, the US needs to work on bike infrastructure. My city is really dangerous for cyclists and only has 1 bike trail! As Americans we have too much of a "We have all this land so let's spread everything out" mentality when it comes to laying out cities. My city has way less people than say Oakland or San Francisco, but geographically it is much more spread out than either of those two cities (probably around 4x bigger).
Just took delivery of one of these, everything as advertised, quality of packing was great, except for an optional rear rack that was not properly paced and scraped some paint off the rack. also ordered a Nitrider 500 headlight that does not work out of the box. Otherwise smooth fun ride. Agree with the quality assessment on the fundamentals, also found mounting the bottle holder on the seat tube to be a better position.
Ordered one today for my wife. The step through version. Hopefully will be as good as you say. Reviews are positive. A bit of anxiety about putting it together though.
I'm close to pulling the trigger on the Pace but also really like the Wing Bikes Freedom which everyone keeps talking about. The bikes seem pretty similar but the Wing is a bit less weight and has the alarm and built in lights/horn that I really like. Would be curious to hear if others have compared these.
Wing is a 'brand' in logo only. They contract with a 3rd party chinesium factory, whereas Aventon does ALL of their own manufacturing, design, engineering, quality control. 90% of the so called 'brands' like Wing (Rad, Ride1Up, Lectric, Himiway) that are sold on line only, and contract with 3rd party chinesium low quality factories, will be gone in 5 years, once the US market for ebikes gains maturity. People wont tolerate that junk for long, and will be very frustrated when they can't find anyone willing to service their junk, or find them some parts.
I have owned 4 different Ebikes. One Bosch powered center drive and three rear hub motor bikes. The rear hub motor bikes all were much more fun to ride in top assist mode. The Bosch center drive seemed okay switching pedal assist modes. Maybe because it just seems more utilitarian than a rear hub. It is so German to sap the the joy out riding a bike..lol. Rear hubs are just more fun IMHO.
Just got this exact bike on Craig’s ?List and it was a screaming deal. Even came with an extra battery! And the website says they cost 479$. So far I love this bike. There’s a learning curve to it, I usually have pedal assist at 0 when I am making a turn so I don’t skid on stones or take off too fast. This is my first ebike so I do t have anything else to compare it to. My only concern is finding a mechanic to keep it tuned up.
you said it Kev, it's a M-5 computer. it also attacked the USS Lexington and USS Excaliber during war games maneuvers so of course it reset your odometer! ;o)
I bought one before seeing this,, it will arrive next week, you did a great job I think of going over all. not a fan of the handlebars but will adapt over time,,, thanks for posting
Just got this bike used for 400$, only 200 miles on it. First ebike and it’s a blast! Though level 5 assist is too much assist imo, it’s nice to have just in case. A decently fit person can sustain 28 mph on level 3 till the batteries run out.
A bike worth checking out is the se boilermaker, I use the 2.0 to commute pretty much everyday. However se stopped making the 2.0 after 2017, but after a short examination of the new 3.0 I think that for the money it’s one of the best fitness/hybrid bikes on the market for the money.
As a welder in training, I would like to say that just because a weld looks great that doesn't mean it is great :) it's really hard to determine with the paint on, but it looks like it's been ground off :)
the USB port on the side of the battery is NOT for charging your phone. (I wish it was!) It is only for diagnostics of the battery if you took it into an Aventon dealer.
Normally I agree with most things you say, but I'd have to say the drivetrain quality is MORE important on an e-bike, especially those with stronger motors.
@@KevCentral I suppose I should have been more specific, mid-drive ebikes, which this is not, should have a stronger drive train. With geared or direct drive hub motors, the bearings should be of better quality than most of the lower end come with, but certainly not all. I don't really think then Aventon falls in to the lower category, just speaking generally! Keep up the great videos.
A lot, and I've been comparing for about 2 months.. the Pace is what I am going to get Tues.. they open at 11. AND its in the turquoise color. Bike color. VERY important. I can't wait !!! It was between Aventon and the Hemiway for myself. 1500 gets you better name brand batteries and gears, and a relationship w a good shop, too. Im lucky to find a dealer here in town. Hey ill post back to yall next week w a follow up. 🚲
I don't see you have reviewed the Ride1Up 500 vs this Aventon 500? The Ride1Up 500 is a great e-bike at $1,100 price that has great components. Hope you get to review one soon!
@KevCentral also look at the Ride1up 700 which at $1,495.00 is only $100 more than the Aventon 500 and I believe because of the components is a great value. Hope to see it soon on your reviews!
The quality of the build combined with the decent components and reputation of this brand make this a definite top contender in the eBike marketplace. It's only $100 more than the Jetson that Costco is selling.
I think this bike is amazing. I really put it through its Paces with the pace 500. I owned it less than a week and I have put 72 miles on it. At 70 miles the motor burnt out. I think this is a 1 in 1000 issue. I took my bike to the bike shop that I bought it from and he replaced the motor in 30 minutes.
My local Walmart has 5 E-Bikes on the floor. Have you looked into the Kent or Schwinn E-Bikes they are selling? The price points are really good - ranging from $598 to $898
could be spray transfer, bud. spray mig. makes smooth strong welds if done right. gives a clean look. most ppl like it even if they dont understand it. reinforcement plus smoothness is the clue.
The motor should really be located to the same position as your crankset, as I centres all the weight of the electrical components to the middle of the bike. Plus It will feel alot smoother to ride, as well you will gain be accessibility when doing any work on your wheels, as you would not need to disconnect any cables and the wheel would be lighter.
How's the ride quality? What tire pressures are you running? I find higher speeds of an ebike with totally rigid suspension makes for a sometimes jarring ride.
what if they swapped the mode selection switch and throttle? seems like you'd be able to access the throttle easier and still hit the buttons on the mode switch with no problem.
That would put the throttle too far away, and also create the chance that accidental mode changes would happen since it would be resting against the thumb when using the throttle. Thanks for the suggestion though.
Hey Kev buddy. I was at Wal-Mart the other night when I saw this New Schwinn Bike the Knowles. It reminds me of the Boundry. The Wall Mart review's look good on it but I wondered if you knew anything about or have reviewed it? The price runs around 200 and the colors look great. That's about all I know about it other than it's 29". Thank for any Input you can provide. Have a Great Riding weekend. 🚲
I have never seen (or not in this case) welds like that. Looks like fun, but I'd also worry about not getting exercise. Does the speed require a tougher grade of helmet?
Road bikes normally go about 30 mph (I average 19.5 to 20 mph on gravel even, that's counting snack breaks), on pavement you'll be averaging at least 25 mph, and hitting 30 mph pretty routinely (and if there are hills, obviously faster like 35+ mph). I'm not sure if the higher end road bike helmets are designed differently, but typically you go much faster on them, so I would imagine they should be designing for that speed. But that's a good question, I hope they are designed for the faster speed, but I'm not sure what all testing each company does.
U mentioned the Display, being the same as the lectric xp. I too have noticed some problems with the lectric xp display. My energy bar acts strange. I can ride for ten miles and all of my bars are black. Then all of a sudden 2 bars might disappear, only to reappear. Ever had anything strange like that? Other than that it works fine. Cant comment on this bike but I remember you reviewed the XP.
That is the computer adjusting based on required output. If you’re pedaling up a hill it will take away bars because the bike is requiring more power. Transition from hills to a flat surface and it will take less power, so the battery will last longer and show more bars.
@@KevCentral So if you had the assist at a lower level then I suspect you can get more than 29 miles of assisted riding. I wonder how many miles PAS 1 will get you.
Hi! I bought a pace 500 at erik's, in Illinois, I have a question .. I started to charge the battery and in theory it is already complete, but the green indicator is only on in a single line, where it says L. On the lcd screen it shows that the whole bar is full, so I don't understand, why does it show me only a stripe on the battery? is it a failure? the transformer turned green as if charging was complete.
Love the welds! Two downs for it. First, no fenders. I just can’t get over a non-mountain bike without fenders. Second, the kickstand looks like it’d lock up with the petals when you back it up. I prefer a more rear mounted kick.
You can add PDW fenders for $22. Or Aventon's fenders for $69. You can EASILY add a rear mount kickstand. Everything else about the ebike has no equal on the market, for anything close to that price point. I out accelerate everyone that rides a 28 mph mid drive ebike like a Trek or Giant, because mid drives are very slow to help your assist, and you pay north of $4000 for that type of ebike to get any level of quality, where they haven't compromised on the rest of the ebike due to the super high cost that Bosch or Brose charges for both their motors or batteries. Its insane what people are paying for that way overpriced stuff that doesn't need to be that high priced. Bosch motor by itself sitting on a shelf is over $1100. Bosch Battery that is rather tiny at 400 watt hours, is north of $900. Its absurd. And the larger battery at 500 watt hours coming on a Bosch mid drive ebike is size of the Pace 500 Samsung battery that only costs only $369. AND if you wanted to go larger capacity you could easily order a 672 watthour Samsung battery to fit the Pace for under $500 from multiple battery sources. Can't do that with Bosch. With Bosch mid drives (Brose, etc) their batteries are proprietary, so you are always going to be paying a massive premium., and ALWAYS have to buy the battery from them !
The welds are indeed wonderful. Needs fenders and a rear rack for 1399. As a commuter bike (city bike) one is going to wanna carry stuff and not have stuff flinging up off the tires. ✌️
I have a 350 shoulda got that but my 350 goes 28 on pedal assist as well.... Good buy 1099 for the step thru 350 step thru for my legs, anyway the 350 doesn't have batman hands
I rode a pedal assist 29er mountain bike suspension forks hard tail Mountain bike bars fully capable mountain bike I loved it just can't afford a 4000 dollar bike
I just purchased the Pace 500 and so far it has been mostly fun. My concern is with the Power Assist level presets (PAS). From a dead stop it takes me couple feet to get my balance. But if the Pace 500 is in Pedal Assist Level 1 while I getting my footing the bike quickly accelerates to 13 MPH. Caught me off guard the first time I was on the bike and I almost fell. Same problem with slowing through a turn. There is no ramp up to the various Power Assist levels, it takes you to the max speed of that level as quickly as the motor can accelerate. I have gotten into the habit of setting the PAS to 0 or off when starting from a stop. I think the initial PAS Levels are too hot. You got five PAS levels to work with. Why not have the first level at slow 7 or 8 MPH. Wish there was a way to adjust these settings.
No need to set pas to 0. Just grab the rear brake lever and move in but not far enough to brake. I use that for tight turns when I am going slow but don't want assist to take over.
@@kirkinphx333 That’s a great tip. Tried that today and it works. This is my first ebike and it is a different style of riding. Never realized that on my old bike that I pedaled into turns to maintain speed. I’m learning to coast into corners - you have the motor to regain any speed lost. Still think that PAS should default to 0 on power up and that the PAS 1 should be lower than 13 MPH. But I’m adjusting and having fun.
For the Pace Aventon 500w can I use the same battery for the Pace Aventon 350w. Is the 500w battery compatible with the 350w e bike ?? I'm asking cause I don't want to mess up anything ??
$6k sounds like a normal road bike WITHOUT motor... Basically the lowest end Bianchi bicycle (no motor) is still like $1k, its not a big box bike! Even the low end ones have Bianchi's carbon/Kevlar hybrid forks (checker pattern of carbon fiber and Kevlar, takes out a tremendous amount of road vibrations), and even the low end bikes are pretty light weight at around 20 pounds even with the garbage wheelsets they have (I'm guessing my frame with seat, crank, bars etc, everything but the wheels is like 6 pounds max, it feels more like 4-5, but its probably just my brain playing a trick since its so bulky but you lift it up and its like Styrofoam... Mine is the allow frame!). But yes, I can buy used cars for $250, and most cars my family has owned are below $1k. It would be awesome if they could start pumping out carbon frames at $200, but high quality carbon will cost $400 for the carbon alone (at least, I've used carbon fiber that's like $100 per square foot...)
As someone who knows what to look for in a ebike package for COMMUTING. This bike has the right stuff. You actually want a cruiser bike as a platform and 48v 500w is a top notch combo. The problems on this bike are WHEEL SIZE AND RIGID FORK. You want a 700c wheel size and suspension fork and seat post. Its the only downside to this package. I assume these are 26inch wheels and that just dosent cut it in the ebike world, unless your riding it around for fun. You want to be seen in traffic and 700c wheels not only make you more visible but ride better as well. Forks are cheap and so is a suspension post. The motor and battery make this package as well as rear hub motor for commuters. Mid drives have some serious limitations, but place the center of gravity where it should be. WEAR A BRIGHT COLORED VEST WITH THIS PACKAGE, because its still not the best profile. Good report.
Thanks for the comments! The Pace 500 wheels are actually 27.5" / 650b, not 26". With the fat, wide 27.5" tire, the circumference is about the same as some 700c tire/wheel setups, but can be significantly more comfortable and grippy because there is much more air volume.
Thanks for clarifying as a very competitive package then. I would suggest the use of bright colors for all manufacturers. Ebikes as commuters need to be seen by other motorist.
KevCentral I know you recommend anyone brand or bike but if you could buy just one ebike that has a good range and speed to get around a city, for work, getting groceries, riding paved bike trails, which one for you personally would you get?
Too many overlooked details for my taste that don't need more than cheap amendments: 1. Chain has too much slack. 2. LED lights can be gotten for like 20€, front and rear. Should be shipped with the bike. 3. Ebike that drives faster than 15mph and asked price above 800€: ship it with a flex or damping suspension seatpost. 4. I miss mounts for bottle holders on this bike. I guess it's not possible due to the awkward positioning of the battery and they left them out to obscure that. 5. Top tube could have a mount for a bag, to transport snacks, a cam, or mobile.
When in pedal assist or throttled power, how often do you change gears? On a normal bike, the gears ⚙️ help the rider maintain cadence on changing terrain. So is not an Ebike’s pedal assist accomplishing the same thing? And with the motor in the rear hub, I don’t see how the gearing could mechanically benefit the motor. 🤷🏻♂️ Great video review, but these are the nagging questions I have when it comes to Ebikes.
I like it but that down tube. Holy cow. For it to appear as big as it is there shouldn't be a big battery on top of it. I know you said there was some kind of cover on it but that just makes it so big compared to the rest of the bike.
I would have liked to hear a little bit more about what range we can expect from the bike, there was only a passable mention, and I get it. You like the welds.
In New York, and several other states, you can’t use a self-propelled vehicle, like a hover board or those scooters that places like Pep Boys used to sell, on the street. I wonder how eBikes with a self-propelled mode would be classified? I haven’t seen a moped in over 30 years, and I don’t thin’ the 2-stroke bicycles conversions are popular enough around here for anyone to notice, so I don’t know how the local constabulary have been dealing with them.
As much as I love those welds, it does look a little awkward. Maybe it's that super long head tube or those Batman bars, or even the low, short top tube. In any case, as long as its a good ride then it's a good bike.
I just bought one at a local dealer. They will let you ride it as far as the frame you mentioned they come in three different sizes surely one will fit you I am pleased
25 miles doesn't seem very far on a charge, especially with that type of tyre fitted. I get about 35 miles with 2500+ ft climbing out of my Shimano Steps equipped full suspension bike. Bit of a cost difference though and I suppose mine is only pedal assist rather than fully powered. What battery size is it?
Just get a couple of extended batteries..thats what i did..i have the regular battery, and an extended battery...i carry it in my backpack (only 7 pounds)..so i can go about 60 miles easily with these two batteries
