Award for vegan cheese makers in Berkeley rescinded 

Or that peanuts aren’t nuts

Not usually much ham in a hamburger?

@@CCRoselle😂

Hotdogs don't contain dog......that I know of

Just wait until the find out 'I Can't Believe It's Not Butter' isn't butter.

Exactly! 😂😂😂

Yeah, but it kind of backfired. This is just free advertising. I wanna try it now, wouldn't have known if they didn't get disqualified.

Um, more cheese is made in California, so that is a silly statement.

@@meatpopsicle1567 Yeah? Well, maybe California should market it better because all Wisconsin is known for is cheese and serial killers. Maybe there's a correlation.

First thing about Wisconsin cheese cartel is they have nothing to fear from chemical chunks of chemical.

Or just don't use cosmetic-grade ingredients not approved as food safe in food. After that Daily Harvest tara flour debacle, it's just not worth the risk.

"just eat the real thing" ...said no cow ever.

@Anolaana, this guy is capitalizing on his cheese being disqualified. Akin to the Streisand Effect, he gets far more free publicity this way. Colbert is the perfect example.

​@@javiersblogfood intolerance is a big reason. Cheese/dairy sets off autoimmune issues in some people. Same with gluten or lots of other proteins, including animal. It's really not just vegans. You have no idea how nice it is to have fake Mac & Cheese when it's your favorite food but makes you deadly ill. Soooo glad these exist. Some are really good.

Well…like he said…he could have used cocoa butter so why didn’t he just use that to begin with. And just because India uses this Kokum plant in their cuisine doesn’t mean it’s safe….India still uses child labor and crams children in hot rooms to work…they also make fireworks and neither of those things are safe for their children. They also allow tons of people to ride on top and on the sides of trains…so I don’t really think India has safety as a first priority for their citizens.

Are you sure you're lactose intolerant and not allergic or sensitive to something else in milk? Lactose is sugar. Butter is fat with only trace amounts of lactose. I'm super lactose intolerant, but butter is fine and cheese is ith lactose pills is generally fine.

@@hefoxed Yes, I have been lactose intolerant since I was an infant and do not have an allergic reaction to milk. I have been lactose intolerant for several decades and know about and use lactase pills, but they still don't protect me against all issues at this point and it's easiest to just avoid dairy most of the time I am also not the only lactose intolerant person to eventually become so intolerant to no longer tolerate butter very well, and it can be shocking how much butter is in a lot of baking. I am aware that it has only trace amounts of lactose, but I also react to some 'dairy free' creamer, and that's how I found out that some of those also contain trace amounts of lactose. I wasn't always so severely lactose intolerant and was a bit incredulous when I'd found out about a friend's partner who was unable to eat any dairy and thought perhaps it was an allergy. But now I understand

I started as lactose intolerant then moved onto milk protein intolerant which ruled out the last vestiges of happiness in dairy form. The struggle is real.

Try raw milk, or goats milk ❤

@@deadbeatbrad5484 Lol, you clearly don't understand what I already wrote. Goats milk also has lactose in it, and I can only barely have tiny amounts of butter, so NO. Raw milk also has lactose, so also NO

Advertised how real cheese is superior

It isn’t cheese so you still aren’t eating cheese. Why pretend? Why not embrace plants as they are instead of pretending?

​@@silentnot4812because it tastes like cheese, and we like cheese. Are you thick in the head?

Or those who are lactose intolerants.

@@silentnot4812 there's nothing wrong with pretending. if you can create tasty comfort foods without exploiting animals, why wouldn't you?

@@BigIndianBindi-jy1cz Sounds like a First World problem, to me. Without chemical processing and artificial ingredients. this stuff is not possible.

Wait, adding it? But it’s mold, you don’t need to add anything. The way she said it, did sound a little dumb though. My response to the reporter would have been, -well it’s mold.

@user-bv7mk8id5t they inoculate the cheese with penicilin when making it, that's how it's made. I just thought it was silly the way she put it. Like, of course it has it in there.

Your cheese has a nice cheesiness.

GRAS is not a legal requirement to sell a food item. It's just big retailers will not sell non-GRAS food for insurance reasons.

Cocoa butter is used in chocolate, kokum butter is different. But Climax already switched to cocoa butter anyway. Kokum butter is used extensively in some places as food, though it does have some sensitization (allergenic) risks. It's just never been studied by the FDA.

I love cheese, but... You know what else tastes specifically like BLUE cheese? Spoiled yogurt. There's something truly disgusting about the entire product, including people's denial about how much ESTROGEN, and other hormones, are probably in pregnant mammal excretions...

So, TwisterT: any idea how estrogen might survive stomach enzymes digesting it? It would have to survive intact to affect the, ah, estrogen-sensitive. Since the Caucasian population has been consuming milk products since the Neolithic, it's pretty well shown to be unproblematic in anyone not lactose intolerant, by so wide a majority that lactose intolerance is more an outlier than a universal among Caucasians. (Milk products like cheese, maybe butter, and yoghurt; these keep.) "A little learning is a dangerous thing // Drink deep, or taste not, the Pierian spring" ---Pope See also _Milk,_ Mark Kurlansky

@@w.reidripley1968 Yeah, thank you, creepy white man. You're why my adopted dad refused to understand my lactose intolerance. Yup, "some Native". Lots of "rural" people are.

@@w.reidripley1968 Anyway, I was already answering the people who were worried about phytoestrogens surviving stomach acid...your point?

@@w.reidripley1968 No one was speaking to you, r-pist Boomer.

Exactly!!! It’s glorious!!

​@@ajvintage9579There are many who have dairy allergies. Alternatives are a wonderful accomplishment.

@@ajvintage9579 It's toxic. The artificial plastic cheese industry is trying to eliminate choice, to force us to consume expensive artificial man-made products containing toxic ingredients that were not meant for human consumption. You can eat that crap, if you want, but do not dictate to others what they may consume just to protect your own sense of self-righteousness.

Streisand gonna streis

@@ajvintage9579 No. It's toxic and artificial. They're trying to feed us nothing but poison.

Spot on

Actually, it is cheese.

@@GordonPavilion maybe the cheese between your toes. But it’s not from cows milk or other dairy types

Ok, but this was supposedly realized a week before the competition. A bit silly and understandably suspicious in the eyes of some

peanut butter is not made of butter yet you have no problem calling it peanut butter

@@FruityHachi It's made of peanuts. You are not going to see peanut butter in a butter competition. A pancake is also not made of pans.

@@gtv6chuck you're changing your argument now since you lost your original argument was about the name, not about entering a competition if you don't mind peanut butter using the word butter, then neither should you mind vegan cheese using the word cheese and plant-based cheeses entered cheese competition in the past and nobody complained, since competitors were just making fun of vegan cheeses tasting awful

​@@FruityHachi Don't enter non cheese in a cheese competition. Don't enter a motorcycle in a car race. Don't enter a pancake in a cake competition. Don't enter peanut butter or butterflies in a butter competition. If you hadn't noticed, that is what this article is about.

@@gtv6chuck go sign a petition then, instead of ranting on youtube

If you're eating a whole food plant-based diet, that's great. If you're not, you're eating ultra-processed unhealthy vegan crap (as most of the vegans I know do...and I know a lot of them). The Climax website doesn't tell you the ingredients of what's in their products (and I say products because I don't consider it food) or tell you how they make this stuff. Consider reading the book Ultra-processed People: the science behind food that isn't food by Chris van Tulleken. ❤☮🌎

​@@suzannezoubeck5216Sadly even people who are eating meat are eating Ultra processed foods as well. So you can't just say vegan food is ultra-processed and it's bad for you. I do Whole Foods vegan as often as I can but being a working person it's awfully hard.

@@joann5051 I CAN say vegan ultra-processed food is bad because it IS unhealthy. The video was about vegan cheese and not meat, so my focus was on vegan foods. Do I know that omnivores are eating ultra-processed food? If I read the book Ultra-processed People by Chris van Tulleken, I would (and I did), and I have no problem saying ALL ultra-processed food (the kind with multiple ingredients we can't pronounce and creation processes we can't do in a non-lab kitchen) is unhealthy. Ultimately though, eating anything is better than eating nothing (vegan or not depending on your proclivities), but the results you get from eating a WHPB (whole food plant-based) diet is not the same as the results you get from eating a vegan diet that includes (or is mostly) ultra-processed foods if your interest is in being alive and healthy for a long period of time (as well as being a vegan). If people are mostly interested in animal rights and don't really care about health, they'll often eat any vegan crap put in front of them. The industrial food complex is lined up and ready to make LOTS more tasty vegan crap (using industrialized salt, fat and sugar as the successful seductive incentives) that will be greenwashed as being better for the environment, and then either not exactly telling the truth or straight out lying about it being good for you to eat. I don't believe any of the well respected vegan doctors (Campbell, Barnard, Ornish, Fuhrman, etc.) will advise eating ultra-processed vegan foods over whole vegan foods. However, I get being time crunched and tired, etc., (right there with ya) so I know we're all doing the best we can at any given moment in time. It's challenging to eat healthy, vegan or not, but if one doesn't, there is a price to pay in terms of health so it seems worth it to do the best one can, and the more you do prep work and planning the easier it becomes. Health is wealth, and the healthy person may want many things but the sick person wants only one (to not be sick anymore). That said, I'd suggest buying the cookbooks (or at least getting them out of the library to check them out and decide if you want to buy): 30 minute Whole Food Plant-Based Cookbook: Easy Recipes with no Salt, Oil, or refined Sugar by Kathy A. Davis, Cook:30 by Jeremy Dixon, and Cook:30 2 by Jeremy Dixon (you can watch the tv show Cook:30 on RU-vid). ❤☮🌎

@@suzannezoubeck5216so? Do you not eat processed foods? Dairy cheese is processed as well as meat. Most foods are. I bet you do eat a lot of processed stuff… So what’s the big deal and why do you care so much about what other people eat? As the maker of the climax cheese said (I agree the name is hilarious), they just want to coexists, why is that so hard for big dairy industry and big meat industry. Oh yeah $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$! Let people be. That cheese contest was clearly wrong. They should have never allowed them to compete if they didn’t want a non dairy cheese to win. But I bet they thought it would be a good laugh for them. Now who’s laughing, I know am 😂. As well as Steven Colbert show. Best

@@user-bv7mk8id5t Never said I didn't eat processed foods (processed foods by strict government definition can mean cooking anything and not eating it raw), and I try not to eat ultra-processed foods (you know there's a difference, right?), which is what I WAS talking about. If you want to learn about the problem with ultra-processed foods read Ultra-processed People - The Science Behind Food that's not Food by Chris van Tulleken (or watch his videos on this website). In the world we live in, there's not much of an incentive to eat healthy (read the book Salt, Sugar, Fat: How the Food Giants Hooked Us by Michael Moss), and the majority of what's available in fast or casual food eateries isn't, though places like Panera, Chipotle and other chains are trying to clean up their menus. Why do I care so much about what other people eat? Oddly, enough...I care about people besides myself. For one thing, more younger people are getting colon cancer and the recommendations for preventing it is to lose weight and eat a whole foods diet...and that diet could help one lose weight (Yale School of Medicine doesn't stress vegan or not). Then there's diabetes Type 2 which is now a thing with children which didn't really exist with them until the obesity rates went off the charts (also related to what one puts in one's mouth). The book, The End of Diabetes by Dr. Joel Fuhrman recommends a whole food plant-based diet to be able to get off diabetes medication and basically be "cured" of Type 2 diabetes. So, I don't really care about this contest as much as my issue being with companies that are catering to vegans (who will eat pretty much anything with the "vegan" label) and others who are trying to eat either healthier or to help the environment. Companies like this are greenwashing their products when they're neither healthy, nor ultimately going to be the thing to clean up the environment (check out the book Defending Beef by Nicole Hahn Niman...it's not the cow, it's the how). And yes, the writers on The Late Show with Steven Colbert are very talented, and the "Meanwhile" segment has always been a fave of mine (though if I was him I wouldn't have eaten the Climax stuff...no matter how good the bit was). ❤☮🌎

Same! I can't wait for retail sale 😋

I have, and I've been eating vegetables for 60years +... Vegan Cheese is good for the bin.

@@alasdairblackmore2592 exactly where it belongs

Praise cheezus.

@@wayneessar7489 if you eat that stuff, jeebus is giving you the middle finger.

It's cheese not fake cheese.

@@nillyk5671 cheese is made from milk curds, it’s not cheese.

because the organizers nor competitors didn't think they'd win, they let vegan alternatives enter the competition in the past and nobody complained since they were used for jokes, but this time when the alternative even surpassed dairy competitors that's why they ran into problems

Right next to the bugs and grass your lords and masters demand you should eat!

Can’t be classified as cheese without dairy in Canada

@@waynemanning3262yeah but they’ll call it Chee’se or something 😎

@@waynemanning3262 ​ @blazingstar9638 Not true. Have you not ever seen the packs of "DAIYA Dairy Free Mozzarella Cheese Shreds" at the grocery store?!?!?!

I love all the defensive comments assuming people want to eat this cheese because they are hippie bug eaters and not because they are maybe allergic to dairy…

They're not commercially packaged yet. The government won't allow it but this is about a contest

I just love the fact a plant based product beat dairy in taste and texture. 😂😂😂 Better quality without the health risk.

@@blackpalacemusic Are you sure it's better quality? There's Velveeta, and there's actual cheese. Two things, one is clearly better quality than the other. Plant-based cheese - okay, sure. But if you need 20 additional ingredients to turn plants into something resembling cheese, it's probably not the best thing for you.

"Without the health risk" I don't think vegans really care about health. If they do, they wouldn't be eating overly processed plant based alternatives.

​@@maryseflore7028 I see you sell dairy products 😂

It's way more expensive than regular storebrand cheese.

I went to the company's site to see where to find the cheese. It's not available in my area yet, but I'll definitely be watching for it!

All the plant-based alternatives are full of chemicals and cause cancer

@@javiersblog If you’ve seen the toilet after I eat dairy and then the colitis flare up and the hospital admission, I guarantee you’ll change your mind on that.

No... better dont

That would spoil the illusion.

Real cheese is a healthy alternative to fake cheese.

@@user-bg2oi4bz3p real cheese is extremely high in cholesterol and saturated fat, one of the highest in all foods. Do your research! Not healthy at all!

@@user-bg2oi4bz3p not sure if you were joking

@@deannab9511 Contrary to pharma companies, cholesterol ingestion does not affect heart disease. Saturated fat is also no longer implicated by those that do not profit. Polyunsaturated fats - linoleic acid - omega-6 fats - vegetable oils are the worst substance to consume; worse than sugar. Unlike the highly damaged fats in vegetable oil, saturated fat is the optimal "clean" fuel.

​@@deannab9511 those are only issues for people with specific ailments. People thought sodium and fats were bad back in the day yet here we are. Now we know sodium doesnt raise blood pressure in normal people and we know that fats are actually healthy.

Yet now we know margarine is unhealthy.

@@brianackerman2226 True, however, in response other companies have come forward and healthier alternatives from margarine are now on the market. It takes someone to open the gate, and regardless if the first to come through is the best option, it allows others who might be better suited to come through next.

Actually, no.

Yep. This smacks of a variation on the lawsuits against using words like mayo and milk in conjunction with vegan versions, as if anyone would be confused between soy milk and dairy milk. I've been veg/vegan since the 90s and wouldn't dream of going back to the SAD diet I grew up eating.

​@@batcactus6046actually yes. There is more biomass in cows on the planet right now than all other living animals combined. That's not sustainable.

You can't go plant based as the environment crumbles. I don't think you understand agriculture at all. It takes more resources to produce crops. Especially on land not suitable for such things. Then it's all pesticides, fertilizer, GMO crops with crazy contracts. Newer farm tractors where your not allowed self repairs. Food companies run by Wall Street and want control over everything.

As a Cal graduate I can say you are right! Lol

it's a fungi and fungi is vegan because it's not animal or plant

@@AC-cg6gz fungi is far more closely related to us than it is to plants. Slime molds can solve mazes.

The vegan philosophy is not about avoiding killing anything, it's about minimizing harm to *sentient* animals (beings capable of experiencing pain, suffering, and/or trauma). For some, this permits the consumption of oysters since they don't have an obvious nervous system, however many vegans will avoid oysters anyway. Since meat and dairy foods, leather, and other products that use animal testing all inflict pain, suffering, and typically end in the early death of the animals involved, vegans avoid paying for them. I hope that clears things up!

🤦‍♂

Mold and fungus, aka mushrooms, are vegan, as is yeast.

GRAS certified - Generally regarded as Safe

you prefer your cheese with pus and estrogen instead

You don't want to be around my daughter after she eats dairy. 🤣🤣🤣

Not really they didn't want an product that wasn't certified edible to win because they can't even sell it to customers...

Kokum Butter

Have a little Climax. Makes it sound like it comes in a little wax-plastic red shell...

Cuttle Fish = not a fish Jellyfish = not a fish Silverfish = not a fish Shellfish = not a fish Seahorse =. is a fish Catfishing = not fishing for cats Peanut butter = not butter, nor a nut Ham burger = not ham Hot dog = not a dog

Well, a world famous French chef disagrees 🤷🏼

This person forgot goat cheese exists.

This person forgot allergies exist.

@@lisasteel6817 You killed him😂

Thank you for the recommendation! I'm not vegan but I'm always open to healthy alternatives

Using an ingredient that is not FDA approved. That kokum thingy.

@@cherdnad2630 Thanks!