AWD versus RWD - Kia Stinger GT at the Race Track 

Yeah, I just want to see the difference in a straight line.

@@RandomTechWZ me too

A track tests all 0-60, 1/4mi., and braking.

NOT a race car at all, sports sedan

i wanna see drag race :P

Just Peter Schreyer I imagine.

Kia at a race track was almost impossible.

I would have to agree. 6 seconds disparity leads me to believe the biggest difference in the cars was between the steering wheel and the seat.

Rwd is technically superior on track but only if the driver has the confidence for example when awd corners it has under steer and you can get out of it with throttle but not as good as rwd cuz in rwd as soon as you under steer it’s just a matter of getting on the gas to get around the corner cleaner and faster it’s called a slip angle it’s really interesting and I don’t mean drifting just a little controlled angle to get the rear end to conform around the turn

You just saved me from wasting 9 minutes of my time.

@@beelzebub425 uhm why only rwd when awd has both? I'm just saying put it on sport+ and its 97% rwd

@@channasnakehead4051 it only goes 80% to the rear and the awd model has no lsd so if it was 97% it would just one wheel wonder

"One would expect all-wheel drive to help the Stinger's performance numbers, but while quick, our handsome HiChroma Red Stinger GT tester proved to be slower than the rear-drive Stinger GTs we've tested. Our tester accelerated from 0 to 60 mph in 5.1 seconds and on through the quarter mile in 13.6 seconds at 104.8 mph. The quickest rear-wheel-drive Stinger GT we've ever tested ran to 60 mph in 4.6 seconds and through the quarter mile in 13.1 seconds at 106.9 mph. Our all-wheel-drive Stinger didn't perform as well on the skidpad or figure eight, either. It averaged 0.90 g of lateral acceleration on the skidpad and ran a 25.2-second figure eight while averaging 0.77 g. Respectable numbers, but the same rear-drive Stinger GT quoted above pulled 0.93 g on the skidpad and lapped the figure eight in 24.8 seconds at 0.79 g." -Motortrend

Yeah, I caught that immediately too and had to read down the comments to make sure somebody called that inaccuracy out. Good job.

TheSaintST1 it would be so nice to have in the winter but you’re spending $3,000 more, handles worse, mpg reduced so much, higher off the ground, and slower in every way in the dry. I’d like to have awd but I’d probably put snow tires on the rwd

AWD is for soccer moms who can’t drive. Everyone knows RWD will always outperform AWD. The issue is most people can’t handle a RWD car in extenuating conditions. Thus a AWD in sports cars was invented as a handicap / training wheels for inexperienced drivers. There are absolutely no practical benefits to AWD that can’t be compensated for by a seasoned RWD driver. Thus - if your a soccer mom who wants a sports car go ahead and get the AWD. If you understand how to drive your vehicle. Get the RWD. The only exception would really be with rear engine rwd PORSCHEs if you intend to daily drive a rear engine Porsche recommend the AWD Carerra 4s because 911s are a death trap in bad whether they slip around uncontrollably in the rain🌧

@@Ricardo-eg3wn I'm sure those Audi rally dar drivers will bare you opinions in mind.

EdgyNumber1 considering the Porsche 911 is the motor vehicle platform with the most racing wins in the world , and it’s first win was a “Rally Race”.... I sure hope they do. They might learn a thing or two. They might actually Learn how to spell the word ( car ).

Ricardo Rivera ugh...how petty do you have to be to call someone out for a typo these days?! Everyone is typing on small keyboards on their phone. The d is next to the s. You knew he meant car. So does everyone else. To be fair, in your previous post, you said “if your a soccer mom”. It’s “you’re” FYI

Which one? Regardless, I'm jealous.

The whole production was very short notice. But, I totally agree with you. If we had the time to do three laps we would have. Unfortunately, we could only rent out the course for so long.

Thanks. It was a lot of fun making.

Why it is obvious what the out come will be on a wet track....

or in snow :) but great vid!

230kg lighter is a lot when remaps start..and this baby somehow pulls a lot..a lot of big companies will have a problem..this stinger gt is overbuild ..reliability with a remap 430hp on 4 seater..merc-audi-bmw will loose a lot of customers that they dont like buying a status..but buying a damn fast do it all car that dont brake every 30.000 miles..that means aftermarket used value too....a reliable tt car with 4 seats..until today eu cars was alone in that m3-rs3-rs4....the figures stand only if the car drives

Yeah I feel you but to be honest you probably shouldn’t be zipping around in the rain anyway. Not so much for yourself but other drivers. Cops will ticket you if you get into an accident for not doing 5-10 under. It’s law ...you must reduce speed in the rain 🌧 so for a rwd driver on the road as long as your tires have traction it’s fine. AWD is for soccer moms who can’t drive. Everyone knows RWD will always outperform AWD. The issue is most people can’t handle a RWD car in extenuating conditions. Thus a AWD in sports cars was invented as a handicap / training wheels for inexperienced drivers. There are absolutely no practical benefits to AWD that can’t be compensated for by a seasoned RWD driver. Thus - if your a soccer mom who wants a sports car go ahead and get the AWD. If you understand how to drive your vehicle. Get the RWD. The only exception would really be with rear engine rwd PORSCHEs if you intend to daily drive a rear engine Porsche recommend the AWD Carerra 4s because 911s are a death trap in bad whether they slip around uncontrollably in the rain🌧 this is typically not the case for many front engine sports cars but the weight distribution of a Porsche makes them ass end heavy. Easy to slide around in a turn or high torque = less traction scenario

AWD can have the same or more potential but it takes an extremely skilled driver capable of pulling a scandinavian flick

@@ErectileSceptile I won't disagree but there's times a "flick" isn't useful. A well balanced rwd will rotate more easily on every state of a turn. How can you "flick" a awd on corner exit or how can you close tighter on a apex? Its just all more easy with a rwd.

I'm with you on that one Sergey.

ADEBISI ADEBISI looks like someone is upset with their premature purchase of a C250.

RWD would absolutely be cheaper. AWD has a better resale value so the initial cost is pricier. As for maintenance, the AWD is a more complicated system and would be a more expensive fix if needed. Great question!

Thanks for replying! I will check out rwd

@@poetic8tradegy it comes with a 10 year warranty though if you buy new or certified pre-owned. i dont think thats really a concern when it comes down to it whether or not RWD or AWD is more maintenance cost.

As a SHO owner, I have to say 99 percent sure the Kia would whip it around the track. Kia is lighter, and it's suspension and chassis is a decade newer. Current (and last sadly) gen taurus chassis was borrowed from a Volvo setup from like 08.

That sounds like it's in the ballpark of a decent price. Pretty good mileage for a 2018.

The guy in the first couple mins doesn't know anything about racing. He thinks RWD causes push (understeer) while AWD can help get rid of that and help "pull"the car around the corner while in fact it's the total opposite, lol.

@@vincer9960 Thats what i was thinking.

vince R soooo???? I’m looking at the 2021 GT and thats what I was thinking.. should I go AWD or rwd?? I thought the AWD will be faster but idk

@@VG-RACK I'd recommend AWD to 9o% of people. It's safer especially if you like pushing the car and potentially faster off the line. RWD is more fun, requires more skill, and more of a "purist" racecar type of setup. In short, RWD is more hardcore.

The RWD is 200 pounds lighter, and has a mechanical LSD. The difference in times is absolutely what I would expect.

Thank you!

Shity

@@A90maly Correct the rwd is about .1 second faster. I have zero traction issues in my RWD stinger GT

haha, I like your style.

You won't need too lol because the rwd will spin out or lose traction

Haha. Is your. Commute exactly 1.8 miles?

Next time! We didn't have access to the 1/4 course that day.

I'm going to have to agree with you. Well said 👍

Get the AWD, do full bolts on and tune it to around 420 WHP and don't look back. That's what I did and I'm sure it would take a stock RWD any day of the week, rain or shine...or snow. You could do the same mods to the RWD but I suspect traction would become a major issue and the AWD would still win. These cars need sway bars to really be ready for the track, they are set up for comfort.

AWD is what I prefer but can't complain with my newly found JOY in a GT RWD :) for a great deal. it's much more fun and engaging together with more mechanical grip AND less weight!. This was a great comparison video btw! Great job!

Thank you!@@beefen7921

RS5 is nose heavy with the engine placed almost in front of the front exile.

The mechanical LSD in the RWD model is far better suited for a dry track environment and is why Nick had a much easier time rotating the car and pushing it harder in the corners. The torque vectoring diff in the AWD model really isn't tuned for a track environment and resulted in lower cornering speeds. However, in the real world most drivers appreciate the AWD model and it's versatility.

Nick here! the time difference between the two models is real as the more mechanical and lighter nature of the RWD model just gives far more front grip to work with on a dry track. If anything the difference is greater than what the times show as I was having more fun in the RWD model and over-drove it into a couple corners. The AWD's lap was actually cleaner.

i25 Kia the awd would kill the rwd from a dig though

I'm thinking your'e right. I'm curious what the difference would be. Maybe we will test that out.

You should test the 2.0 RWD to see if it's faster than the V6 AWD version.(around a track)

Thank you!

They are mistaken here because the awd comes with all season and the rwd comes with summer.... And i don't remember if they are the ssme brand i know the summer is michelin pilot sport 4s or just s.... That will add a very huge difference in grip, cornering and acceleration....the awd has 18 inches wheels and the rwd has 19s....not accurate comparison

@@mohamednawwar1450 I wasn’t aware re the rear wheel drive tires, though that does make sense. I have Michelin Pilot Sport all-season on all four.

In the ice and wet, sure. Anywhere else, and in all actual straight line 0-60 tests the RWD is faster.

For sure! Especially when you put a tune on. Rwd will just roast the tires. Awd will be faster with mods done

We're novices when it comes to racing. Thanks for the info though!

@@AllThingsKiaCO No worries. Apologies for wording it harshly.

I believe so!

Thats fair. It was a thrilling video to shoot though!

@@AllThingsKiaCO and it's fun to watch. To be honest I wish I could ride along. But I think we should get away from using it as a standard

Yes, The RWD sits around 3'800 lbs and the AWD sits around 4'000 lbs. (2020 models)

That would be an interesting test to do!

You can adjust the the percentages as well.

The g70 awd does si il guess the stinger too

No because it's still 400lbs heavier.

@@MotoGQ ya.. good point.. let hammond drive the awd and clarkson the rwd then :)

They are automatic only. No manual option

Okay then wasn't sure,towards the end of it kinda looked like he shifted.I still can't believe that the all wheel drive is 6 seconds slower either way if I get the chance to get one it will be the AWD then sent to Tork Motorsports for the full experience. ;) Take a look at what they have done so far,good stuff man,,,

Awd also benefits in the rain for sure

I just saw this! Nick and I do look very similar, he is just way cooler than me. Haha this cracks me up though..

It's the sunglasses; and the beards; and the voices; oh hell, you look and sound like twins on video. :D@@AllThingsKiaCO

Wrong af

True... However we only had access to the curvy course that day. 🤷 Maybe we'll get back there someday.

The Stinger is a very quiet ride. I haven't noticed any rattles or squeaks when driving.

I think the RWD launched harder, at least it felt like it did. With the RWD you can feel the car pushing you vs the AWD it feels more like its pulling you around the track.

@@AllThingsKiaCO nice, gettimng rwd, thanks my friend

AWD is better off road, AWD and FWD is better on slow corners

Rain or snow? 💧❄. 😯

Motor Trend comparison under identical conditions: AWD 0-60 in 5.1 seconds, quarter mile in 13.6 seconds at 104.8 mph. RWD 0-60 in 4.6 seconds, quarter mile in 13.1 seconds at 106.9 mph.

Thank you!. The GTS is so awesome, great investment 👍If you get any questions, just ask.

@@AllThingsKiaCO Thank You sir. 😊

Thank you very much!

That sucks, did you find out what caused it

@@raysal5149 yes. Brakes need to be replaced for aftermarket parts.that will fix it but I never changed. The rear noise was the hatch to heavy for the weatherstrip. And for my good luck I hit a big tractor tire debris damage bumper intercooler belly cover fender. I was doing oil change dealer offer they take car damage. to pay off my car and get me on a 22. So. I did same payment GT1 RWD blue. So no problem so far on this 22 over 3500 MI drive

@@eduardofierro3750 nice, I paid way to much for my 22 stinger GT2 53,620 rear wheel drive... and another 5,000 for California state tax.. but I have 0 interest for 5 years.. I'm sure you paid less for your GT2 ? How many miles did you have when you're breaks started making noise? I also damaged my Lexus running over something on the freeway, but that car I totaled but insurance gave me 22,000and I bought my 4X4 Tocoma

@@raysal5149 Oh wow nice. Brake problem start by 8k to 9k but I complain when was about 13k. And the GT2 thats the msrp here in FL

@@eduardofierro3750 oh alright thanks for responding bro, I don't feel that bad know lol

I think the average driver wouldn't mind the 6 seconds.. the AWD still hauls!

Thanks! Do you have any idea how good the RWD launches and applies grips in the rain versus the AWD version. We get more than our fair share of rain.

hugdeath929 I think it grips well in the rain, but you can’t push the gas too far over 2,000 rpm. The car is very punchy because the max torque kicks in at 1,300 RPM. I have an AWD stinger gt and it’s so much better in the rain than the rwd I tested. I haven’t tested my luck but there were a few times I had to make a quick lane change and pass and it handled just as it would if it were dry

Mr. 2cents. u tell me

It's has awd for $2,200

What? the 3.3TT is available in both awd and rwd cars. The also come with the 2.0T in both configurations if you're not interested in power.

Sure you can. For RWD cars in the snow just have snow tires, all season tires, or all weather tires. Add some weight in trunk if necessary as well.

I would think if you ordered the car instead of buy it off the lot, you could get whatever you wanted.

Thank you!

Driver feels more connected to the car.

Sorry, I accidentally removed your comment. I was trying to respond to it. At 6:12 he was saying that the RWD has more mechanical grip.Thanks for your comment.

Wouldn't u rather have awd? I'm n MN, while I've driven rwd cars in the winter, there's no way I'd even be considering this car if awd wasn't an option. I'm sure you get at least as much if not more snow then us

Really you want the AWD, just do some mods and a piggy back tune. Lap3 will give you an additional 83HP with 93 octane gas. With AWD you get to use all that power, with RWD you will just burn your tires up. It's very easy to get these cars to 420 WHP and they can handle it no problem.

do a vin look up like carfax

Great question! Me personally, I would choose the RWD. I would test drive both and get a feel for them.

@@AllThingsKiaCO You are just confirming what I thought, thank you! I am curious, which of the two versions is faster say 0-100 mph?

@@cindykeselowski899 both

We didn't. It would have been nice though because I was burning up.

Koreans tested AC on / off. Did not make any difference on Stinger.

Hello, Peter KIA DID NOT steal anything, as much as people are reading about the STINGER, are they taking the time to see who DESIGN this vehicle. The DESIGNER came from the AUDI CORPORATION. Conflict of interest took place at the AUDI CORPORATION and that gentleman moved on. The other individual came from (BMW) who got fired. This disturb me when I read KIA stole from AUDI N BMW no that's not TRUE. These two individuals from AUDI N BMW was offered a FANTASTIC DEAL at KIA so with that said they put their heads together one came up with the DESIGN (Audi) the other came up with the performance (BMW). Who wouldn't bring their knowledge over with them to accomplish. That's why when u see the Logo of the E on some STINGERS it means ENGINEER OF ELLECENCE!!

I do agree that a wet track would have made this more fun. Smurf show?