Hogue omega springs are made by Wolff Springs. They make very high quality springs used by competition shooters and professionals for decades. If Benchmade and other manufacturers would send replacement springs to the user instead of having to send the whole knife in then spring breakage would be pretty much a nonissue.
Love love love my Deka, just bought a 3rd one. The red white and blue drop point SMKW exclusive on sale for 112 bucks. Amazing action, super solid, 20cv and superb cutting geometry for 112 bucks back be beat
There's tons of lock styles that allow you to keep your fingers out of the blade path. Although just got one of these, which is why I'm watching this. And I love it
Ashaliel a coil spring would never literally break. If more benchmades have the coil spring pushing on the axis lock like on the Anthem, it would be superior.
I have carried benchmade knives for a decade now and use them on a daily basis and have never had any trouble from the omega springs, I am sure they can break but for my everyday use they hold up fine
Yeah. I stopped buying Benchmade because I had 2 break. I don't want 2 be without my knife for a month. Internal part? Bull shit. Sorry. Got triggered. Lol.
I have one BM. An S30V Freek. Great knife, had it for 2 yrs now as my edc but seeing all of the customer service issues they seem to have I won't be buying anymore. Really want to get me a Spyderco Manix 2
Bingo. As long as they've been making the Axis lock, you think they would have figured out by now that they need to beef up the springs a bit, or at least send replacements to the customer rather than make him send his knife away and wait, and wait, and wait for it to come back to them.
My first experience with an axis style lock was ganzo I loved it so much I bought the griptilian bugout and the 940 and honest ganzo did the lock so much better. I never had to adjust the Omega springs on the ganzo but all 3 benchmades I had to adjust the Omega springs and have had to replace the springs 5 times now besides that ganzos 440 steel is amazing and a way better price..
I would LOVE a Hogue Deka with a 4-inch blade with fewer screws on the handle and a deep carry, low profile pocket clip with no billboarding on the clip. Please, Hogue, make this knife. It doesn't have to have 20CV steel. CPM S45VN or S35VN will do just fine!!
I just picked up the SOG Seal XR Flipper & I must say after staying away from SOG for 10 yrs plus they are back in a big way ! What a BEAST of a knife !
I just haven’t had to buy any knives for 12 years but am looking just for fun. I also caught a look at some new demko knives. My American lawman Ak-47 mini have been in my pockets most days. Sometimes i carried the spartan or my SOG Vulcan. The old arc lock. All the above knives lock up the same as before none have play. I am super intrigued by the benchmades and the SOGs. Why did you stay away from them? My experience with the Vulcan has been great.
Surprised to see no mention of the CJRB version of the Recoil Lock. My CJRB Crag in AR-RPM9 with the Recoil Lock is one of the most fidget friendly knives I own with a price tag below that of the SOG Terminus. Also some locks that could a mention here. Recoil Lock: Sandrin Torino version Shark Lock: Demko AD 20 and AD 20.5 Compression Lock: Spyderco Button Lock: Civivi, Kizer, CRKT, etc.
I'm super glad that you mention what the damascus steel's base/core steel is. Sometimes some manufacturers don't mention it at all, as it could be a Cr series damascus for all I know. Thanks.
Sounds like either Benchmade is still shit at QC or you're abusing it heavily.... I've had a crappy knockoff for years with no issues with the springs!
I just let RU-vid autoplay and came accross this year old episode.... the CIVIVI button lock elementum is a value version of the WE Knife Company Double Helix!
THANK YOU FOR FINALLY MAKING THIS VIDEO! I have been searching this for months. I would love to see a video of not all but the majority or knives that feature this style lock, across all price points.
I purchased the SOG Terminus XR and loved it. Until the XR lock broke after about 6 months. SOG website says “SOG manages warranty claims through our Lynnwood, Washington location where there is currently a “Stay at Home” directive in place until at least 8/31. For this reason, there will be a disruption in all Warranty processing until at least Monday, August 31st. Please hold on to your SOG product and check back with us prior to submitting a warranty claim until we are back to our normal business operations.” For a guy like me who bought this kind of knife for the first time, this is a huge turn off to this kind of locking mechanism. I do understand that this is supposed to be a rare occurrence but when the rare occurrence happens to you, it does not seem so rare.
Axis lock great idea, most often *VERY* poorly applied. Most often very minimal contact of locking pin with tang. Often easily disengaged with even light spine whack. *Simple* physics says a flat bar instead of round pin much more evenly distributes force, thus *MUCH* less prone to *CATASTROPHIC* failure.
Hmmm, this type of lock may well be your personal fave, but I don't care for that dainty little spring in there......I much prefer the triad lock on many of the cold steel folders. It may be a bit more difficult to use but it takes care of my safety and gives me one tough knife!
Haha, please don't get me wrong, but I am German and I watch these Videos to see knives I might not find here in Germany, or to see knives I am not aware of, and then I see if I can find them in Germany. Great videos you guys got here! Love 'em!
The Gerber Sumo is actually a really decent knife for the money. Yes, it's a budget knife, with a bit of a thicker edge, but it's stil very functional. One downside though: If you like to maintain your knives yourself, you better prepare some heat. The Pivot screws are held in place by red threadlock.
My intro to this lock was the SOG Visionary II. It was my first foray into a lock other than back or liner. I'm really jonesing for the Benchmade 945 now.
I own the Terminix. The only complaint I have is sharpening this knife. This knife model aside from that ic great! The size is comfortable for EDC. Also aside from that is I wish Sog offered a serrated version. I really enjoy Sog products and respect their quality.
Gosh that first knife shown is glorious. Benchmark 940. Just right for me. If I were to be swinging open and closing the blade all day, would the springs fail me quickly? If not then the Hogue for $140 might be nice but that first Benchmark is so aesthetic.
I'd love to see a video on the most unique edc folders! Most unique can mean most unique lock mechanism or most unique blade, or Handle. I love unique knives to show off and amaze friends!
I think it would be helpful to mention which knives have assisted opening, depending on the area it can be illegal and when you are so proficient at flicking them open its hard to tell if you are just that good or if the knives have assisted opening, thanks!
I was lucky and picked up the wharncliffe on their website on sale. It's suprising light feeling. I typically like a thicker blade but the steel quality is high so should be good to go, will slice better with that thinner blade. It came wicked sharp out of box, no honing or stropping needed. Well done Hogue
I have benchmades and I love the terminus. I have 2 the crimson red and the carbon fiber S35VN. And I need to get a few of the new one that they brought out. And that Gerber seemed really good. The houge but in a different color
I used to be a fan, however once my omega spring broke in my bugout it made me hate Axis locks. Really turned me off of cross bar locks which sucks cuz there are so many nice knives out there that use that style of lock.
Funny I've been buying and using Benchmade's heavily since '97 and have only ever broke 1 Omega spring. And that's yrs of military use and then my different professions which all require heavy knife use. Not doubting your claim in any way as I've heard others complain as well. It's a shame cause they are a good company with amazing customer support. Maybe someday you'll give them another shot.. Edit: I literally have the original springs in my Benchmade 735 Black Class Ares folder from '97ish..Used it daily for 3yrs straight, then rotated it in.
@@dieseldabz7104 Same issue on my 940-1. Sending it in for 2nd spring replacement and may let it go after that- pretty expensive knife that I shouldn't have to send in and get repaired every couple of years when a much less expensive knife is user serviceable. Not buying any other Axis type lock knives again. I take care of my gear and a knife is the one tool I ABSOLUTELY want to KNOW will be there when I need it and not flopping around like a wet noodle due to a failed spring. LOVE the fidget factor/ HATE the reliability factor.
That’s exactly what happened to me with my 940. I love to fidget but I thought to myself surely that by itself shouldn’t break the springs right? Both on my 940 broke. I don’t hate the axis lock but since then I lost my sense of reliability of it though, which in turn I rarely use it anymore compared to my frame locks or all of my other spydercos. I may or may not get a bugout in the future but even with a 940 and a bugout I won’t be getting any more benchmades or crossbar style locks anymore.
Sorry, I respectfully disagree with you on this video. The best lock is the Tri-Ad lock by Cold Steel designed by Andrew Demko. Literally used my Tri-Ad knives for battoning an d wood chopping. Zero play and easy to clean.
I would much rather have a crossbar lock with assisted opening for a folding edc pocket knife, rather than a lock that requires two hands to disengage.
@knifecenter @davidcanderson Those Hogue pieces seem a great value. Regarding the heat treatment on their CPM 20CV, how does the edge retention and toughness compare Benchmade's product?
Compared directly to Benchmade's 20CV? I haven't had the opportunity to do an exhaustive side-by-side shootout, but I will say Hogue does an excellent job. I have been very happy with the performance of all of their pieces that I have carried.
Benchmade has become boring with all Axis using thumb studs. Why not some thumb hole or flipper models. All I see are different scale colors and materials coming out.
I really wish Benchmade would bring back the original knife that introduced the Axis Lock to the world. The 710. I love my 710 and it has been my EDC pocket knife for years, and still is.
I have a Benchmade 710 McHenry and Williams which, if I am not mistaken, was the very first model to utilize the Axis lock. It was a gift in 1999. This is back when the Butterfly logo still said "Bali-Song" on it. I have stopped carrying it, but did for about 16yr.
I have to disagree. I owned a Bugout CF Elite for a short period of time before I sold it. Even after fidgeting with it for quite a while, it was extremely difficult to spring open and didn't fall shut like any of the ones in the video. Maybe the quality control on mine was really bad but it made me dislike AXIS locks.
My first quality knife was a Benchmade McHenry & Williams 705. A fantastic little bugger, that remains one of my favorite EDC even after all those years. It was made with an ATS-34 blade, one of the premium steel of the day....I got a few more after that... among which the Benchmande McHenry & Williams 710 a truly great folder which is unfortunately discontinued.
Coming soon, the new Hogue/SIG K320. We were able to unveil it in our recent BLADE Show interview with Neil Hogue. Check it out here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-d2Y-vFDs8WM.html
I definitely have been unlucky. Had 2 break less than a month after having them. Both Benchmades. And both times , both springs broke at the Same time.
I have carried Benchmades since they first came out with the original Axis lock model, the 710. I have many of their knives, but have never had a spring break. It makes me wonder what folks are doing to open the blades that causes the springs to break. Maybe nothing, maybe they are snapping them open and closed so much they wear them out? Either way, I suppose I have been lucky. I have had to send in a couple of their assisted opening knives because the blades have gotten loose. For that reason, I will not buy another assisted opening knife that I can’t tighten up the blade bolt of. My favorites are the Ares, the Stryker drop point, and the Griptilian. I will buy a Hogue when they make a drop point Deka a bit bigger. The current one is too small for my hands to comfortably open.
I prefer the buck marksmen g g hawk lock system way better but cross lock is okay. I wont buy benchmade. Just like I wont buy Levi's I value my 2A rights to much and there are just as good knives that dont hate my rights
We knives utterly failed when they made a very sexy new take on an ambidextrous knife lock but then did not create a left hand carry option. Absolute SHAME ON THEM! The review really, really should have noted that! When reviewers leave that out they really fail us. Hold the companies accountable for egregious errors. Great review otherwise.
I bought a benchmade bugout and loved it until the omega spring broke after only 2 months , returned it immediately and bought a Gerber sumo and love it ,plus it was 1/3 the price of the benchmade
Love your show but I also see other knife shows aswell..they all show these cool shape blades and different steels but what about sharpening..I hate sharpening..Someone has to show the latest and greatest ways to sharpens these eccentric shape blades..Sharpening is tedious..theres gotta be a quick way to get the keen edge..
I feel the artisan variant looks a bit clunky, but I think they had the right idea. Evening out the pressure on the lockbar, allowing proper single finger operation, is the way to go.
13:20 Who's using synthetic handles at the $140 range? And by "synthetic" I assume you mean plastic? Because g-10 and carbon fiber sure aren't natural.
