absolutely agree with that idea..maybe 95 couldnt be but 94 absolutely would be sennas year if williams didnt make that piece of shit car..and now i understand why i hate newey..
I still think Schumacher would have kicked his ass, during the first three race meetings, Senna never seemed to have the upper hand other than in qualifying. In race trim, it was a different story. Schumacher certainly looked faster in Brazil and Imola and at Aida, well Senna just made a bad start. Even if he would have avoided the self-inflicted melee of the start and first corner, I doubt very much that he would have been able to exploit the Renault's horsepower advantage on such a tight track. It looked to me like following the disappointment and surprise trouncing at Brazil; that Senna was reacting negatively to the immense pressure that he was under. After all, everyone did expect him to win in 1994. Most expected him to win easily.
Mr18000rpm Yes but they were already figuring out what was the problem with the car..Berger said that when talking with Senna in Imola he said that the "problem" would be fixed in 2-3 weeks which correlates with the introduction of the FW16B and the considerable improvement in results that Williams had for the remaining races.Hill challenged Schumacher until the last race when the latter had to thrown his car at Hill's in order to win the championship. I think that Senna would won in 94(by a slight margin over Schumacher). Also the FW17 was the best car of the grid in the 95 season.But Hill got a series of bad luck/incompetent crashes and shunts that made the Bennetton(that was even better than 94 with the Renault engines) and Schumacher's life more easy than the previous year.
Yes but, 2 or perhaps 3 mistakes by Senna in the opening three races would lead one to believe that perhaps more were coming from him. At 34 years old Senna's best days were behind him. Contrast that with Schumacher who had a couple of excellent years under his belt was miles fitter than anyone on the grid. In hindsight we can also say that if any combination could beat a Newey design, it was Byrne/Schumacher. We can look into the FIA's heavy punishment of the Benetton team for passing on the parade lap and whether that would have played out the same way should Ayrton had survived to fight another day. I think that Ayrton would have made it closer, but I also think that the FIA would not have taken 4 results away from Michael and the Benetton team. The FIA's heavy punishment of the Benetton team is the real and only reason that 1994 championship came down to the last race. Finally, if Ayrton would have been fortunate enough to survive the Imola weekend, who is to say that he would have been fit enough to be 100 percent by next race.
for an economy of less than 10,000$ they killed the most natural born talented and the GOAT driver in F1 history...the stupidity is so big that it is impossible to measure
Wow, great question. I saw Imola 1994 live and have read numerous publications magazines, books, etc. in the 22 years since then. There is a lot in print that is not on the internet. It may have been that large book by Damon Hill, or it was more likely the Williams book I quoted when I wrote the wikipedia article on FW16. "featured power-assisted steering, hydraulically driven and reacting to input from electronic sensors, a system that drew heavily from the knowledge gained from the teams active suspension technology." was one of the quotes I remember using from the book. I was an idiot for not including references on the wiki page. But then again there are not THAT many books on the Williams team of that era.
The FW15D was faster in preseason testing though according to Autosport. So Senna may have gone on his gut feeling based on that. But Newey wanted his fancy lower rear wishbones and anhedral rear wing I guess.
It does just have a darkness to it though. All of the other cars you mentioned dont quite have the same mystique. They are all gorgeous cars of which id love to see race again, but this certain car actually strikes me as being scary for some reason. It's almost like the Christine of Formula 1, or James Dean's Porsche. The 126C2 still strikes me as a fun and beautiful car, yet the FW16 just comes off menacing. Perhaps this is due to the mystery surrounding the crash. Id still love to drive it :)
There's no mystery. No other car went off through that curve, unless there was a major technical problem. No car would go off there, even with bad handling. It was an easy flat out curve. The g load just as he lost it, went to 0.5, from 3g. Meaning the steering was lost. There's another video on RU-vid where the front wheels are not attempting to turn left after he goes straight. In fact, they steer straight, pointing to a steering failure from a botched weld on the steering column.
@@weallfollowmanutd I don't dispute that the steering column broke. I just don't quite understand why would the lateral g INCREASE from 0.5 to 3 if he LOST steering midway through the corner? You have the centripetal force pulling you through the corner causing that lateral g, then the steering brakes and you suddenly lose that centripetal force. Would the car have lost lateral g then (at least in the timeframe between steering loss and impact with the wall)?
Todos queriam Senna na Willians, uma grande equipe que vinha esbanjando títulos na fase das suspensões ativas... o carro estava em fase de transição, ainda estava duro de guiar, mas com o tempo Ayrton acertaria com a equipe e teria sido campeão em 94, não fosse o trágico erro mecânico na solda da barra de direção
Look at that Senna's immediate reaction to the uncomfortable car around 1:07 to 1:12 He was like "Ah...What's this? Are you serious?" It's painful to watch..painful. Then he said "I don't like the car." within a half of the lap he drove. This was the moment when his fate went wrong.
Totalmente deacuerdo contigo, ese señor Balestre tiene mucho que ver en la muerte del mejor piloto de la historia de la F1. Te imaginas cuantos titulos más hubiera ganado Senna? Que pena no poder seguir viendo al fenómeno, al más grande, al mejor, al magico, al irrepetible....... Ayrton Senna.
I know how ominous just seeing the FW16 in Senna's hands is, but who here is kind of surprised at seeing Adrian Newey with hair on the top of his head?
I can never get over the fact that one of the elite teams in F1 altered the position of the steering wheel of a multimillion dollar race car by splicing a piece of steel tubing onto the existing steering column. That makes NO fucking sense. How hard could it have been to REPLACE IT WITH A LONGER STEERING COLUMN???? I swear that if I had been an engineer on that Williams team and saw that being done I would have immediately said HEY MORONS, VERY BAD IDEA. It's truly difficult to accept that that absurd bit of jerry rigging was directly responsible for the premature death of the greatest race car driver in history. How have those Williams team idiots been able to sleep at night all these years?
Senna was ok with it and as opposed to common belief the column didn't break prior to the crash. There are many videos on still existing Williams cars from that season that prove that the column position is flexible and moving if pulled and pushed and that the movement is totally compliant with the footage of the steering wheel movement seconds prior to Senna's crash. One of these videos is contained in a documentary by National Geographic.
Patrick Schmitt Patrick please....what flavor koolaid would you like? Cherry, Strawberry or Grape? You sound like Oswald killed JFK because the warren commission said he did...National Geographic was a farce and you my friend need to look at it again...Did you know that Michael Alboretto drove the car sawn the film and said that the column was not designed to move off axis that far and testified at Senna's trial to that fact? Did you also know that the court ruled in Senna's favor and concluded that column was some 30-40 % cracked and failed BEFORE the accident hitting the wall..i would implore you to study some more before you make others drink that koolaid you're downing.
I was there on this day covering F1 testing as a photographer. There was quite a hold up while the marshalls went round the track clearing the snow away from the side of the track and thawing any damp patches. Ayrton still went out 'flying' in a car he had never driven before, mightily impressive. But my lasting memory of the day was of Ayrton walking back to the garage in full blue Williams Rothmans kit except for his lucky red McClaren boots. He changed these to the blue ones when he went racing ??
de esa manera dejaron a Senna, el mejor piloto de la historia, al volante de un bolido de gran potencia, con fallas de diseño e inmaniobrable. Sus esfuerzos fueron grandes y logro hacer una pole position. No basto para el, queria ganar y el auto sello su tecnica. Ayrton Senna era mas rapido que su auto, no era una extencion de su cuerpo, como lo fue el Mclaren Honda, el williams renault fue una lapida con ruedas
It seemed to be a bit of a handful straight out of the box, but when the other teams stopped using traction control, and Williams updated it, it seemed to work better and was very competitive.
Such a shame that we couldn’t see Senna at Williams for the next few years. Like you say second half of 94 the car was great. 95 very good car also. 96/97 champions again. Could have feasibly won 2-4 more world titles. He was so quick in that unstable car at the start of 94.
The guy talking to Senna after his practice , i think he asked Senna if he didn't have any problems when he left. From 92 , once you started the engine , just before leaving ,you have to lower the car from an inside button . Senna forgot to lower the car. Look back at the video and look at the front wing how high it is from the track If you don't beleive me ,look at the video with Valtteri Bottas testing a 92 Williams F1
Scoopy No. At first iteration, they messed up the aero packaging, and the front wing was far too high off the ground by design, which made it exceptionally more difficult to drive at high speed, adding to the dissatisfaction Ayrton got from his car. By Imola, this was fixed, but the retards at Williams jerry rigged his steering column ensuring at least he would retire. But no, he ended up with the worst luck a person can have on that Sunday and expires immediately. It is shockingly sad that amateur hour mistake caused this tragedy that will never stop hurting to us who loved him. Regards.
Essa equipe não era à altura do talento de Senna, na mesma proporção se fosse um avião já teria caído no primeiro teste, Senna ainda conseguiu guiar essa porcaria de carro por três provas até morrer.
How did they kill him? Motor racing is a dangerous sport and nobody knew that more than Senna. Senna knew the risks he was taking as do all the drivers. Nobody at Williams deliberately went out to kill their star driver and it’s worth remembering that the steering column which was the most likely cause of the crash was only altered because Senna himself asked for it to be lengthened at the last minute to help him feel a little more comfortable in the car.
@@Cjbx11 the steering column snapped because they lengthened it on the weekend instead of making a brand new one. For an economy of less than 10,000$ they killed the most natural born talented driver in F1 history and the GOAT...the stupidity is so big that it is impossible to measure. The damage Ayrton death brought is so big thats it is impossible to measure in numbers. Not only this,after Senna death's they didnt help to find the real reason of the crash at all,instead of that they disappeared with the black box for several days,they deleted scenes from the POV camera and only God knows what else...they treated Ayrton and his family like they were animals and it was their obligation to be slaughtered and accept that
1:08 Look into Senna's eyes and face. He doesn't feel comfortable in the car when you look at his movements and reactions. It is very painful to see that.
I think it’s a fast and pretty car but it seems like the handling isn’t good. It would be interesting to try this one in a game lol. It’s so sad that if the steering column hasn’t been patched up and the cockpit had been a bit different we would probably still have Senna with us. Race In Paradise king
Ele nunca deu liga com a Willians, desde a primeira entrada no carro ele já viu a fria em que estava, não havia a mesma empatia com a equipe que, como ele mesmo disse para Jo Ramires " tratam os pilotos como empregados "
After Ayrton's death Williams wanted Damon Hill to charge in for the title, well he could and almost get that, if it hadn't been for that Australian Grand Prix calamity...
I can’t look at this car without feeling pure hatred for it. You can’t call it revolutionary or great performing or great handling or anything. Mclaren/Toleman all took input of Senna. Williams went for the easy route and well, we know what happened after that
The VO is done by Allard Kalff, he was the Pit Reporter for RTL GP and a Dutch Touring Car driver for most of the 90s. Also, we borrow the word for Engineer, from French, hence the pronunciation.
A Senna lo engañaron y uno de los participes de este engaño fue Alain Prost. En el 93 le mostraron un auto imbatible, un williams campeon, el cual era piloteado por Prost a quien Senna habia abatido en mas de una oportunidad. A fines de ese año Senna recibe la propuesta y acepta manejar el mejor y mas rapido auto del mundo. A principios de 94 Jean-Marie Balestre modifica el reglamento para eliminar el control de traccion el cual era indispensable para que el williams fuera maniobrable
This first version was a piece of crap but a lot of people ignore it won 7 races after Senna's death and won the constructors championship. Hill almost one the WC. Pity they couldn't get it right for Senna.
Ese auto estaba maldito y lo sabian, ademas que ese año habian quitado la electronica de los autos y encima el auto diseñado por Newey dependia excesivamente de la aerodinamica y en circuitos irregulares era demasiado inestable e inmanejable. Senna se lo hizo saber a Adrian Newey, Patrick Head y Frank Willians y les sugirio correr con el FW15 C con mejoras, la respuesta de Newey fue que perderian todo el desarrollo del FW16. Convencieron a Senna y el auto era un Cohete, pero demasiado nervioso