Azor Ahai the Bad Guy (Why Jon Won't Kill Dany) 

“and there he stood, azor ahai reborn. His tracksuit glowing and dancing in the wind”

How tragically poetic will it be if Melisandre does sacrifice Shireen to resurrect Jon? When Stannis said "what is the life of one bastard boy against an entire kingdom" and Davos replies "everything", I feel so much worry for Shireen because of George's penchant for mirroring things and this just feels like subtle foreshadowing of Melisandre sacrificing "the kingdom" (Shireen, the heir) for a "bastard boy" (Jon). Davos would be heartbroken.

How Geralt of Rivia once said - "Lesser evil, greater evil, mid evil. Evil is evil. And if I have to choose between one of the evils... than I'd prefer not to choose at all."

We honestly have very little reason to think Azor Ahai is a good guy. We're told he's a hero by Melisandre, a very unreliable source, and a good deal of Davos's story is about preventing the death of Nissa Nissa to save Stannis's soul. And the perils of religious fanaticism are a big theme of the story.

According to the Fire Cannot Kill a Dragon book, GRRM told D&D about "Stannis's decision to burn his daughter". I'm sure he won't do it because of a little snow. The books suggest, that he'll do it to fight the Others, because he "must sacrifice one child to the flames to save a million from the dark", because Melisandre convinced him that he is Azor Ahai reborn, and that's what Azor Ahai does. I think that will just reinforce the point you made in this video. That the book won't end with Jon killing Dany and portraying it as a necessary evil, because sacrificing innocents is wrong, heroes don't do that, and Azor Ahai was not really a hero.

I really appreciate the points you made about violence as a solution and violence against women in particular being antithetical to the story as a whole; it was seriously depressing having to point that out to people over and over after the episode aired, particularly with what was going on in our political and social landscape at the time. For someone without much social currency it can feel like shouting into the void, but anytime I see someone with a platform not shirking from making these kinds of points (especially, in the case of this topic, a male) it makes my day a little brighter and more hopeful

I was always hoping, that Jon would not have to stab Dany in order to win against the WW. That's such a barbaric thing to do. And in the show he didn't do it to win against the WW. But Dany turning into a second endgame villain to justify stabbing her wasn't any better. And I hated the message "beware of people who help others - they are the real villains" that this turn promoted. However, Dany has actually killed her husband (though it was a mercy killing) and out of the funeral pyre rose her dragons (her "flaming swords"). So in a way, she has already fulfilled this part of the prophesy without being a cold blooded murderer. This would make Khal Drogo Nissa Nissa.

"Not stabbing one-another". Now there's quality relationship-advice.

As for the violence done to Danny's body at the end of S8, Lindsay Ellis makes an even greater point bringing up that this was a woman who was sexually victimized basically her entire life until Meereen and moved past her traumas just to be MURDERED at the hands of the man she loved and trusted. Maximum cringe when you look at it this way.

Crackin' the moon is bad m'kay? Don't crack the moon.

Azor Ahai: "Let me kill my wife to forge a sword in order to stop the Long Night." *kills wife, forges sword, **_causes_** the Long Night in the process* Azor Ahai: "...I'm still the hero, right?"

This discussion reminds me of when Xharo (spelling uncertain) tells Dany that slavery is ok because there can’t be anything good in the world without somebody being exploited... great analysis... this channel has really helped me notice levels of thematic unity in asoiaf

Thank you for addressing this! Being in the Jon and Daenerys fandoms, I've heard Azhor Ahai and Nissa Nissa over and over again, and something about it while "so tragically Shakespearean", rubbed me the wrong way. The implications of it seemed so off in terms of it supposedly being the right, heroic thing to do. So, I love your take on this!

Hey...the Amethyst Empress and the Bloodstone Emperor could be married as well, practising incest like Valyrians. This also fits in where the Great Empire of the Dawn was a precursor of the Dragonlords. And of course then they would be exactly like Azor and Nissa and Nissa

Man, didnt expect the Azor Ahai one will come out this fast, I am literally now watching the stream from yesterday. Cheers LmL, whenever you are travelling in Eastern Europe, hit me up, you're staying at my place and the smoke is on me too

D&D never understood the source material and had no idea where to take the series or how to end it once they surpassed the books.

Thank you for providing the information that D&D basically invented the Jon stabbing Dany to save the realm. Beause you know, I think sometimes those showrunners forget how much the viewers look up to these characters, basically see them as real people and relate to them. It's amazing that you have proof that predicts that a good person doesn't need to turn into a murderer to save the realm.

I always found it curious that AA and BE myths were so similar yet so differently viewed morally. Thank you for putting it into theory!! Assuming that they are the same story, the different tries of making the sword in the AA myth could represent different kinds of magic the BE used to try and achieve his goals. Tempering in water is the "regular" way, the lions heart is blood magic, and Nissa Nissa aka the Amethyst Empress is a sacrifice of Queen's blood. Like stated in the books "there is power in a king's blood", especially in that of a godqueen. Maybe too much power and BE's plan worked too well and in a way backfired. That's why Asshai looks like the result of some magical fallout

Essentially, in the show version Nissa Nissa is the bad guy. Which, well...

Hate it when people say there is lots of evidence of Dany going crazy or being tyrannical as IF

I always thought it was odd that people truly believe that Danny's ultimate purpose in the narrative is to murdered by jon so he could be the hero SMH.

I've been so hurt by the destruction of my favorite characters on-screen that I've barely been able to stomach anything about ASOIAF. Your video popped up in my feed and I almost added it to "watch later" and thought, know what? No. I don't want to put off watching my favorite GoT RU-vidrs just because S8 was bad. LML, you're one of my favorite ASOIAF theorists and I *needed* to hear you remind me why that on-screen ending was total horseshit. I sort of think Azor Ahai is a retelling of the Bloodstone Emperor tale by the meteorite cultists who followed him, bastardized over generations. Either way? As someone who is so heavily invested not just in the characters, but in having payoff to the many moral quandaries and the countless mysteries all throughout Planetos, I just want to thank you for videos like this that still give me hope in my favorite series. ♥

Awesome vid, LML. I think in the books we find out that both The Starks and The Targaryens of old will be guilty of losing their humanity to achieve their wonders (sacrifice, blood magic, etc) and that will change the way we view their ancestors. I've tried for years to get my thoughts about the Starks being buried in crypts and hiding this fact from the children/"old gods" and I'm just not as articulate as I want to be. It'd be a good video topic though.

When you havnt finished the live stream but LmL uploads another video :)

One thing I wished that would have happened in the show was that when Drogon took Dany they would go to Valyria and the ending shot was her eyes opening but with red stars glowing eyes instead of blue stars...maybe in the books the white walker/ dragon people cycle keeps happening is bc AA or the PTWP keeps stabbing his wife’s heart instead of giving his own or not sacrificing anyone maybe Jon will sacrifice his own life instead of Dany’s

Thank you for pointing all that out, this is such a relief!! I'm like sitting here watching dozens and dozens of people just casually saying like "oh yeah, and then the hero _stabbed his wife to death_ to save the world" and then just move on to the next point as if it is nothing at all. But I'm always like "hold up, this is kinda crappy, isn't it?" Great video, man! Keep it up!

Our Most Dark Lord, Euron Greyjoy, is Azar Ahai reborn! He shall bring the Wall down, and finally we shall have eternal peace!

AA: I'm the baaaaddd gguuuyyyy LML: DUH

This is why people need to actually pay attention to the ideals, histories, and experiences of the actual author of a novel, as they often show those same ideals and/or experiences in their stories. Sadly many great books are misinterpreted by modern audiences. Wuthering Heights films too often romanticize the relationship between Heathcliff and Cathy, when in reality it was very toxic and the real romance of the story was Cathy's daughter and Heathcliff's ward, and how they learn from the previous generation's mistakes and break the cycle of violence (yet many film/TV show adaptations spend very little time on the secondary love-story). Or Lolita, which was written by a man who was purposefully writing a horror story about human evil/cruelty in response to the horrors of WWI and WWII - it's not a love story, despite modern reprintings of the book often putting a sound bite on the cover like "one of the greatest love stories of all time" - for fucks sake it's a story about a pedophile! Or what about the romanticizing Scarlett and Rhett in Gone with the Wind - Rhett was written by Margaret Mitchell based off of her extremely abusive first husband who was nicknamed Red. Mitchell literally slept with a gun under her pillow after she left Red out of fear! My point is that any vague details in the larger part of the story of ASoIaF can be relatively sorted out regarding morals, especially the author's morals, if you actually look at the author's history. GRRM is very much anti-war (he doesn't like it when stories glorify war, which is why he spends so much time showing the audience the real consequences and human coat of war in his books), he's a self-proclaimed hippie, he's also a straight up romantic, his favorite fairytale is Beauty and the Beast (B&tB has a lot of imagery throughout the series, between Sansa/Sandor, Arya/Gendry, and Jaime/Brienne, as well as a few others, and I never understood why these couples didn't get the attention they deserved on the show; the novels may not be catagorized as romance novels, but there are great romances throughout the story but the show ignored these in favor of "gritty realism"), he even worked on the TV show Beauty and the Beast from the 80s (the one with Ron Pearlman). Also, the shows decision to focus on Dragons and Lannisters more than the Starks and the northern myths/mysticism, when Martin straight up said that the Starks are the HEART of the ASoIaF novels, just as the Trageryans are the center of the Blood and Fir books! Game of Thrones is the kind of show you get when you put frat boys in charge of something - Dragons, Boobs, and cunning Lannisters. There is a LOT of nuance, historical inspiration, reading between the lines, and subtle foreshadowing, and literary symbolism in the books that make them so wonderful! It was like someone asked a horny teenager to writer an 8th grade level book report of each book in the series, Dave and Dan read that book report, and then they made a TV show about it. I honestly find it hard to believe that Dave and Dan actually read the books!

First of all I wanted to thank you for being a ray of light at a time when I thought I was absolutely wrong about Daenerys ( I had been away from the fandom since season four and when I came back almost everybody assured that Daenerys was going to go crazy and be the villain of the saga) And for me she's always been the heroine of the story. Then I "found" you, and I was like, well at least I'm not alone in this. Ha ha ha so thanks again! and here's my question... If Azor Ahai is a bad guy, are the red priests wrong or are they bad guys too?

In Soviet Russia, eighth-grade book reports are for themes

Fantastic video as always LML. I love that instead of just saying “show bad” like a lot of youtubers, you explain why those plot points suck and offer your ideas as to how it might actually play out. Excellent points and it makes me even more excited for the books. Damnit.

Ah yes dragon hittler

This guy is BRILLIANT. LmL is correct that AA is a moral relativism test. I have always felt that Nissa Nissa was a Christ-ish figure. (i.e. the sacred heart imagery...) However it never made enough sense because Nissa Nissa was not God-in-the-flesh, therefore her death (even though she was an innocent) could not justify a “sin offering” to turn back the effects of the Long Night and return light to the world. Another major issue is that AA didn’t manage to restore the seasons to their rightful course... I watched this discussion because I had realized there were more similarities than differences between AA and BE. I had concluded they must be the same person, because when I tallied up the inconsistencies, ASoIAF truly started to lose coherence. It’s cool that I’m not alone in this thought. The literary parallels discussed as evidence in this video are spot-on and much appreciated!!! Lastly, I think LmL is absolutely correct that GRRM is saying “giving up your humanity to win is not just.” Indeed, evil is evil and has no fellowship with the light. Martin uses a far more convoluted moral landscape than Tolkien ever did to present the SAME discernment of good and evil. It can be a headache or a brain-tickler, depending. :)

'Be like Davos'. Words to live by!

I agree with you. I think Jon and Daeny are parallels to the Azor Ahai-Nessa Nessa story. This time instead of Blood Magick we will get Love Magick. Their Loves: romantic, for friends, for the stranger, etc. is the correct way to defeat the White Walkers. Hate in the end is cold. But we must also remember that Hate can burn hot, The religion of R'llor is a perfect example. It keeps slaves (both physical, mental and emotional) it does not seek to show its "rightness" by dialog but by conquest. You have the forms of Hate (cold always wrong and hot Love twisted) competing with Love in its correct purest form.

Whenever I'm confronted with a murdering innocents type moral dilemma, I always stop to consider my WWDD bracelet

LML: “Whos mother or daughter would you be willing to sac-“ Me: Mother in law.

I read up about Elric. The description of Elric is almost identical to Bloodraven. Elric is an Albino. He has striking Red Eyes, he's a sorcerer of great repute and was hated by his own people. He is also depicted seated on his own throne. He is also in conflict with Yyrkoon, his cousin, who hates him and wants the throne for himself. Yyrkoon's sister Cymoril is in love with Elric, but Yyrkoon covets her and wants her for his wife. This sounds A LOT like the story of Bloodraven, Bittersteel and Sheira Seastar. So is Bloodraven supposed to be an "Azor Ahai" archetype as well?

Love this. I hope you're right. Apparently their original plan was to blow everything up with wildfire, but still have Jon kill Dany, which is still awful. I wonder if we're not being too easy on GRRM tho, since it's so NOT fanservice... he could've said they decided to go on another direction with the show, since the books aren't done, instead of going on and on about it being similar. I kinda get HOW a really good writer could make this ending work, even if it's an outdated and kinda sexist deviation of the lost princess trope, but I still hate it. Any Latin American who grew up watching telenovelas knows that the 'crazy evil obsessed woman' is THE oldest, most exhausted trope there is to kill off a female character that the writer doesn't really know to handle anymore. She either self destructs or is 'saved' by being put down by her lover. Huh.

I was writing a whole comment about how Jon is Nissa Nissa and Dany is Azor Ahai and then you beat me to it so instead ill just say: Good Job Luci. You think of everything.

Couldn't the moon cracking me a large astoriod that had been seen from space before it "Cracked" when it was close to earth it would have looked like a second moon in the sky because of how close the rock was.

#BELIKEDAVOS

I think your theory is very strong. Aside from the compelling argument you make in of itself, we already know that GRRM is so diabolically clever as to sow the world with widespread false narratives about major historical events eg. public perception of Jamie as Kingslayer, The Others as mere myth, Lyanna as kidnap victim etc etc. Gosh darn it Lightbringer, you've done it again!! Bravo

I’d love it if Jon & Dany, after all is said & done, go off (together or separately) to Naath for a nice retirement. Odds are they will likely sacrifice themselves to save the day & take out Euron, thus leaving the necessary power vacuum for Bran to ascend the throne.

I have a few problems with this theory. 1.) How is it that one woman’s death is enough to bring about a moon’s destruction? Euron is perhaps the most evil person in the world and he needs a literal boatload of people to accomplish his goals. 2.) Dany, a hero as you call her, also uses blood magic by killing a woman, Mirri Maz Duur, to bring dragons to life. Is this somehow okay because it’s a woman killing a woman?

I just watched The Disputed Lands' recent video on this same topic. If you haven't seen it, you definitely should. Amazing work by Amanda as always.

Whenever I read about AA story it always feel weird to me like sth was off about it. This makes a lot of sense.

If Danny is Azor Ahai then Dany can stab Lightbringer into Jon’s heart. Since he’s already been resurrected than he can be resurrected again. side note: your knowledge and the way you lay out your theories makes you insanely attractive.

Well, I suppose this video disabused me of the notion that Jon is a dark horse perfumed seneschal candidate. His having served as a steward and Dany smelling the sweetness emanating from the blue flower growing in the ice wall meant nothing😪. Awesome video, as always!

The notion that Jon kills Dany after the Long Night when both of them play the biggest part is so ridiculous 😂 D&D truly exceeds my expectations

I have said many times, primarily in Dragon Demands comment sections, that the ending is totally Dan&Dave and has nothing to do with the actual ending. I have been saying for years that their ending had more to do with what has been written on Reddit than anything in ASOIAF.

The emethyst empress was not just his sister but his wife (nissa nissa) if them being ancient dragonlords story is to be believed.. and that bloodstone emperor was azor ahai.

So the Bloodstone Emperor's blood betrayal was also the forging of Lightbringer? Maybe Edric Shadow chaser, Neferion, Hyrkoon, and Azor Ahai were not all the same person, as the Maesters seem to think, and the details of there legends and the forging of Lightbringer and the beginning and ending of the Long Night have been confused and jumbled together, creating a monomyth that is easier to share, enjoy and/or dismiss.

I haven’t read the books or watched the show, just have watched a bunch of theory videos here, but I just want to say that as I was listening to you discuss AA being the villain my mind went to Brandon Sanderson’s Mistborn Trilogy and how a great evil deceived people into releasing evil onto their world under the belief that they were doing the right thing(s). Forces of evil will twist stories to their benefit and purpose to get good people to do their biding and if people are desperate enough they will follow through on some dark things under the belief that it will turn the tide in their favor. Stannos(sp?) let his daughter be burned alive because he waaw told that he would get a certain outcome; only for men to desert and he got his butt whooped if I remember other videos correctly.

I always thought the Nissa Nissa story was just a PR campaign by the winner [Blood Emperor], and the details were changed over time into legend and lore... the "winner" always writes his-tory... right? Jon and Dany are meant "right" the "wrong" (which I think involves the whitewalkers and the Night's King theory, the wrong being done to the WW)... (like Aragon releasing the souls of the warriors from their blood oaths, after they fulfilled their oath to him...?) Idk, just a thought... Oh, and I've subscribed! Love your content

this type of content of yours is so nice. I like the long streams but i just dont have the time

Talk about Euron please. He's more similar to Bloodstone Emperor

I think it's the whole "cry of... ecstasy" thing that inhibits a lot of people automatically going "sh*t man, that's really wrong, and AA ain't no hero". The agony is there, yes, but the ecstasy thing...

I love that at a Qand A with george RR martin a question from this chanell got in. "A question from lucifer means lightbringer, dont think thats their real name" street cred thru the roof

Nissa Nissa was the hero that was promised the whole time

This is a truly fascinating theory. Azor Ahai being the villain in the story of the long night would be such a plot twist.

Davos POV chapters I feel are so we have the insight of the decent people of westeros, the common folk who are becoming so few because of the war of the five kings. His conscience when were reading is probably that of many of the commoners of westeros, stannis not included ( Stockholm syndrome almost, he's been much more interesting having been sent away in adwd because stannis was his only blind spot. Davos is to me eventually going to be a maaajor POV character because of how much different he is from literally every other POV character... He's the only common low born peasant if I'm not mistaken? And we only get the pleasure of hearing his opinions on things because stannis knighted him and saw his value aswell

I mean, purely on the basis of what heroism is, sacrificing that which you love and cherish most above all in order to save the world because there is quite literally no other way, is the very definition of heroism. Heroism is all about sacrifice, and if quite literal self-sacrifice can’t save the world, but the sacrifice of that which you love and cherish can, then that is also a form of selfless heroic self-sacrifice, for that is a sacrifice most would be unwilling to make, thus the labors of a hero.

Dood. Someone on reddit recommended you and they were right. Love alllllllll of this.

Dan and Dave botched the ending so much that I now doubt R+L=J. I seriously have that much mistrust in everything they presented

That obsidian blade is too perfect I can’t even fathom the patience needed to craft such a masterpiece.

Love the cuts and pauses. This is a particularly quotable vid too: "Thats a hell of a redemption mark even for GRRM"

Amazing video as always LML! You’re rocking the hippie Azor Ahai look

LML and disputed lands videos on the same day D: is the world about to end?

I definitely think he is evil, killing your wife is evil full stop end of story. The idea that she was a willing sacrifice, is bullshit we have no reason to trust this and this telling the person person that they love them as they hurt them is seen in a lot of abuse cases.

LML and his drive to create constantly new GOT videos amazes me. This is a man driven to create media! He doesn’t seem to care all that much about subs or views or even new viewers. This channel has been relatively stagnant as far as new subs are concerned for quite literally years and years. With all respect the channel has not experienced the typical growth that most channels get. It seems like it’s always been around 27k subs, but the videos keep on coming! So kudos for that!

Great video and take as always! There is definitely something funky up with azor ahai

And who says the Amethyst Empress was only a sister? We have lots of Sister-wife examples. Nissa/wife AmEmpr/sister. Could be both. Very good points in this video! I know I'm very late.

The ending (dragon hitler character shift) would have worked if Faegon had been in the tv show. Since he decided to deploy to Dorne before her I could see him succeeding on hitting Kings Landing as she gets there. She would eliminate her competition and the people would be collateral damage. (Currently reading the last 2 books so they may reveal something else)

Only half-way down the video and I’m already sold on this, lol. Great way to articulate everything! Amazing job, theory and video :)

i'm not religious, but this deserves an "amen". Amen!

What a nice voice...really nice. Thanks for this video!

I think people are reading it the wrong way. He thrust his sword into Nyssa Nyssa which ended her life, but gave him Lightbringer. Let's look at this from a different angle. He "thrust his sword" into Nyssa Nyssa. That can be translated into him bedding her. She lost her life during childbirth, but a child would one day be called "Lightbringer" was born.

When the books are finished. I would love a reboot of the t.v. series. I could wait 30 years for that

great video loved how you tied it all back together! definitely changed how I looked at this part of the story! Thanks again !

Could the Lightbringer forging and the cracking of the moon also be entirely unrelated? As in, everyone sees a meteor cracking the moon and then assumes that it was that guys flaming sword? Azhor Ahai then says, "Of course, t'as me! Totally!"

The azor ahai myth only makes him evil if the sword he was working on for several hundred days wasn't his penis. It does however make the lion thing a bit strange unless that idea is also metaphorical.

The legend of Azor Ahai seems a perverted version of the Biblical story about Abraham who was told by God to sacrifice his son and he obeys, but in the last minute God tells him he was testing Abraham's faith and Isaac is allowed to live. I always thought that a God capable of asking such a test is not a very nice type of deity but ultimately ,God did not allow something so foul happen simply because that was not a sacrifice, it was murder dressed as a sacrifice. Nothing good could have come from Issac's death, even if Abraham had believed he did it because Got told him to. So to think that something positive can come from a murder disguised as a sacrifice would represent a complete break from the general philosophy of the author. Dany will go darker in the books but taking into account what Martins published in his social media, it will probably be the kind of darkness that fighting against a system of oppression and injustice sometimes tends to create. I am sure she will be held accountable but I don't think it was Martins intention to preach that we should allow injustice to prevail and I mean both individually (if she wants to fight for what she thinks belongs to her) or collectively (if she wants to fight to remove the system of oppression in Westeros) .

There's a line that's been burned in my brain when Maester Aemon touches Stannis' sword "The sword is wrong, she has to know that ... light without heat ... an empty glamor ... the sword is wrong, and the false light can only lead us deeper into darkness." That's sort of why I didn't like Stannis, he was too willing to "sacrifice" people, and why I stopped liking Jon Snow after the finale (Yes, I know that book Jon and show Jon are different people but still)

This all implies Euron is trying to imitate Azor Ahai to some degree by kicking off the apocalypse with blood sacrifice

Nisa Nisa: Hey Honey how’s your sword coming along ? Azor Ahai: Third times a charm, could you stand there and hold still for just a second …..

thank you for the theory . something always seemed off with the prophecy and shireens demise in show. I don't know if the dany Yeager idea came from Martin the books seem to imply she won't become evil. azor ahai might be little finger as little finger sounds like light bringer and some theorist created a theory about it. is the great other evil or rhllor and bran seems to have connections with great other and blood stone emperor or BS king with starry group who some theorists say are the blood magic wizards

I love the idea of that the stories of Azor Ahai are meant as a cautionary tale for trying to weild the power of a god where ppl lime Milasandre are like nah we should do that thing

I'm so happy you made this video - awesome surprise at the end of a long and hard day :) you reference this interpretation of the myth all the time in different videos so I was hoping for one specifically about it

You never cease to amaze me and get my head down endless paths in every single stream.

At this rate, I am not even sure we are going to see the end of a "Song of Ice and Fire."

I’d argue that danys descent into madness was well foreshadowed. Watched the series again, the creators did a very good job alluding to her being another insane Targaryen. Even in the show, Maester Aemon said the mad kind was a “sweet boy” before he became king.

Another thing that I find weird is the sacrifice for the greater good, there is power in kings blood, and there is power in green seers blood, Jojen paste makes Bran more powerful, but what for? What does blood raven want? Does he want to set Bran up as the new three-eyed crow? why? he's lived for hundreds of years and has tried to teach others to fly, but they all died... How? I'm just saying he's willing to sacrifice Brans friends to make him more powerful. Would that endure Bran to the three-eyed crow's cause? I think the three-eyed crow has been living for a long time for a reason, and a winged wolf is an exotic delicacy.

I find your theories on Azor Ahai being a Dark sorcerer king, very convincing. I agree with most what you say regarding Dany and Jon representing the heroic elements of that myth based on them continually putting others above and beyond their own interests. Where I disagree is that Dany is more flawed than Jon. To use your own argument, it may be narratively justified, but it is equally morally wrong for Dany to use her Dragons and other power to murder people even if their actions deserved it. I would also argue that she has left a trail of death behind her on the way to Meereen (Dysentery and the butchery in the replacement of the council she left in charge of Astapoor and the events at Yunkai). Whilst freeing the slaves, she has accidentally, through lack of consideration and judgement killed very many more little people). I don't see that this something Jon would ever have done, at least without acknowledging his guilt and fallibility as well. much more than any guilt Dany has. I would also argue that she's likely to change a lot and become much more Targaryen in her second visit to the Dothraki Sea. Power or perhaps what she considers her destiny is changing her in the books and she was never the complete saviour in the first place. I think only Jon will fully represent the this ideal soon in the books. I think your theories need to take a better look at Dany's dark side than you seem to have done so far. I'll have to watch your Bran theories, as I think I have a major problem with Bran as king, given he's no longer Bran, no longer human and Children of the Forest magic seems to be as tainted with dark magic and human sacrifice as any of Azor Ahai. I also think that GRRM closing a non-Human King for Westeros is very much a cop out and a potential betrayal of his apparent ideals. It seems like an argument along the lines that people are too flawed to ever have power to rule. However, I've yet too read a=or watch any argument that convinces me they have a good handle on what GRRM intends with King Bran.

Dude, I love everything about your weirdness. That’s a huge compliment in my book, so keep up the amazing weirdness LML’

Jon won't kill Dany, because Dany won't go mad.

Yeah it really bothered me that jon had no consequences for resurrecting except becoming more dumb (coincidentally when book material ran out) . His death could have been removed, heck jon could have been removed and not much would have changed.

Lucifer is not the latin word for Venus. Venus is latin. it s actually the latin word for aphrodite the greek godess of beauty. Lucifer is not a translation just another name for the same thing

Hate to break it to you, but I don't think this is what G.R.R.M is trying to say. In fact it seems sort of the opposite of his message. The whole story seems (at least to an extend) about the idea, that often the more charismatic and relatable characters tend to be the more villianous ones in the larger context, and those who seem less likeable to the audience are actually those serving the greater good, if not outright heroes sometimes. This becomes very evident in characters like Ned Stark, Tyrion and Tywin Lannister and Stannis Baratheon. Ned is honoralbe, mostly honest and good towards his family members and loved ones. He also treats individual human beings relatively fair in general. But he also executes Nights Watch deserters for nothing less, than running away in fear from Ice Demon-Zombies, as well as doing all the bad things that come with being feudal lord in the medieval period. Granted that is just the social system that he lives in, but that doesn't make it any better. He also blindly follows his code of honor, without considering the wider consequences of his actions. Same goes for his son, Rob, who fails his family and all those loyal to him, because he can't keep his dick in his pants and then blindly follows his honor codex, betraying his pact with walder frey, which in itself would not be a bad thing... (after all, who would you blame for choosing to treat the lady fairly and, due to the social conventions of the time, essential saving her life over a something as superficial and small as political maneuvering and keeping a promise you made, that only hurts the pride of those you made it to, if you broke it.) ...if it didn't result in a political catastrophe that ended up killing thousands of commoners and soldiers in addition to his own mother and most of his allies, not mentioning the farther reaching consequences of the ruthless, and with ramsay sometimes outright malicious, Boltons now ruling the north and the reckless and corrupt Lannisters staying in power. Tyrion starts as the more compassionate, even heroic character, but when things end up going bad for him he suddenly starts mistreating commoners (slaves) and deliberatly gives bad advice, for the mere reason of "I did everything for my family and they only betrayed and mistreated me, so out of (childish) bitterness, I am just going to be dick to EVERYONE!" He's unlikely to get a redemtion ark, given that G.R.R.M said "Tyrion is a villain" Meanwhile Stannis, as honorable as Ned Stark but a lot less likeable, constanty tries to serve the greater good, choosing to fight he Wildlings over his personal ascension to power, even if only temporarily. Sure burning his daughter rightfully remains controversal and can barely be justified, but it fits his character and attitute of choosing the right thing over his family (He does think he is serving the greater good). Tyrion, defending Kings Landing from Stannis kind of does the exact opposite, even though he knows that Joffrey is neither the correct heir to throne nor a good ruler, whose rule benefits the people of Kings Landing. Tywin is just shithead towards his family but a clever and insightful ruler, who knows how to keep a kingdom together. His brother Kevan confirms that. He sees him as a hero despite his often dispiccable deeds. It is only after he dies, under Cercei, that things spiral into chaos. Tywin and Stennis are far from being saints to be sure, but it is their actions that kept threats in check and the kingdom together. Meanwhile Ned and Tyrion end up supporting the wrong people for the wrong reasons. To be fair Ned supported Stannis over Joffrey, but he was on Robert's Side during the Rebellion despite that Rhaegar would probably have been a far better Ruler and that Robert went to war purely out of jealousy and obession over someone that didn't even love him back. You may have largely been correct about Azor Ahai, as your theory would explain the white walker queen and so on. But I doubt Martin, with his emphasis on grim realism would send as simplistic a message as "There is no difference between lesser and greater evils"