Back 4 Blood - Angry Review 

LOL Classic clip you threw in there!!

Huh, never thought one of my old animations would make an appearance on your show. Glad you enjoyed it dude, this was a pleasant surprise!

L4D characters: Serious about their survival but also have some charm. Meanwhile... B4B characters: Everyone wants to be a comedian and does not take a zombie apocalypse seriously enough.

I will say that the "HEY JOE, WANNA PLAY A ZOMBIE GAME!?" gag doesn't get old

OJ must be having the time of his life tormenting AJ with zombie games, I’m highly entertained!

I love how Joe always sleeps with his Superman t-shirt and jacket.

it really makes you realise that Valve was the reason why Left 4 Dead 2 was so good

What I liked about the L4D games is how the level designs made you feel like you were traveling across a large distance. It was an adventure where the characters were always on the road searching for something better. That's lost in this game because they have a home base, so the entire game really takes place in one localized area, with them reusing certain areas

More like Back 4/10 Blood.

Man, that clip of the AI-controlled teammates endlessly following each other in a circle like a conga-line of cats chasing each other’s tails made me laugh so hard.

I found the best part for me personally was quickscoping my friends in the firing range. Did that for hours..

I love how they try to add personality to the characters with colour and accesories. The l4d characters had more personality in them than all of them put together. Hell the zombies in L4d had more personality than the characters.

the continuation of the "play a zombie game" meme is just the cherry on top(we knew we needed) over Angry reviews, lol

OJ's happy face always makes me smile. Like a kid who is so proud of something and is excitedly showing you what they did. In this case, it's making Joe play another Zombie game.

I just realised that the card system was turtlerock's way of compenating for "the director" of l4d.

Reminder that TurtleRock made Evolve. That asymmetrical hunting fps game that spawned Joe's famous rant about the color blue.

What made L4D2 campaign so good was the build up of tension to these set piece surprise attacks. There’s no tension in B4B it’s just constant chaos with special swarming you every corner. Also versus campaign was one of the greatest multiplayer modes in any game. You could coordinate with your friends on both sides and made for great planning and teamwork. The multiplayer in B4B just like the campaign is a chaotic mess

*Players during the beta:* "The game is too easy!" *Devs inhale as they pinch the bridge of their noses:* "Challenge... accepted."

The Act-Man cameo was the cameo we didn't deserve but needed.

Don’t call this game’s graphics better, L4D put so much love into each detail, facial animation, death animation, musical queues, character design, level design. Only *7* people who worked on L4D2 were pat off turtle rock, the rest were *all* from Valve

I love that Joe and Act Man are friends. Excellent cameo, two of my favorite game reviewers together.

"Hey Joe! You want to play a zombie game?" That never gets old.

The cameo of The Act Man on AJS made my day.

If you look at the credits for Left 4 Dead, you see that literally 99% of the people that worked on it were Valve. Pretty much all Turtle Rock did was come up with the concept. That really explains the difference in polish between the two. That said, I still enjoy the game, but without mod support, it's days are already numbered.

It’s crazy that Left 4 Dead 2 still remains one of the greatest zombie games ever made, even after more than a decade

The fact special infected have no sound cues like l4d yet are still as dangerous and require teammates to pry them off of you while doing MORE damage and spawning MORE OFTEN is the single most frustrating thing about this game IMO

This is a good lesson that studio in name alone is meaningless. It’s about the individuals involved.

"Well let's see, I'm Francis, theres Grandpa bill and THERE'S ZOMBIE EVERYWHERE OPEN THE GOD DANM DOOR!" Francis - 2008 to 2009

"You don't get anything for playing solo." Welp. That's a hard pass, then. Thanks for the heads-up, Joe.

The act man showing up on an angry review is absolutely electric

That arrogant you're welcome from OJ is basically what the devs are saying to you after we gave our feedback from the beta and they still didn't improve certain things. Single player campaign is utter trash. Completely pointless to do. And not able to kick useless players and trolls out is another amazing feature.....

After the new patch, the veteran difficulty got even harder, and in the worst way possible(they buffed the mutation spawn numbers). If you trigger a horde accidentally on veteran or nightmare, it’s often game over no matter what cuz you’ll be fucked by a triple tallboy or crusher spawn.

I didn't think the beta was too easy. It was difficult af. Especially when the team takes every ammo and gun they find leaving nothing for you to use.

This feels like this type of game that a lot of people really got excited about, then it released to mostly positive reviews, but people forgot about it pretty quickly. And then some guy decides to revisit it a couple of years later and concludes that it was never really that great from the very beginning.

I was waiting for the "Hey Joe, you wanna play a Zombie game?" joke, i was not disappointed XD

Left 4 Dead will be remembered and played going on for years. Back 4 Blood will be forgotten in no time.

19:48 Alex’s height makes this way funnier than it should be

Just watching reviews and how the game was marketed, it really feels like they were riding on the success of L4D/L4D2 to sell the game, and decided to be lazy in making B4B.

13:08 Totally agree with AJ here. WTF was TRS thinking not having those musical cues. I get they wanna create tension and what not but all this does is make sure players get frustrated as hell when two Tall Boys creep up on an entire team like they were ninjas. Audio cues in L4D and Vermintide gave teams a bit of time for advanced planning and this extra layer of tactics really complements the fast paced gameplay style of these types of games. Not to mention the fact that it adds memorability to the special enemies. Like I still remember the Charger and Tank themes from L4D over 10 years later.

L4D2 had the perfect mix of quips and light hearted commentary that made it so memorable

The left 4 dead characters felt more alive because they were trying to *survive* the apocalypse, not just *fight* it.

The contrast between l4d1/2 survivors and b4b survivors really reminds me how much respect is deserved for good writing and direction. It's like night and day.

I hope one day AJ just accepts his fate and goes "....sure Joe, I'll play a zombie game"

Melee attacks consuming stamina and no audio queues for the special infected were 100% dealbreakers for me.

Angry joe is timeless, I’ve been watching since 09 and it’s the same good ol joe. Love you guys vids 🤙🏽💪🏽💯

I could have swore when I replaced an attachment the old one fell on the floor and was able to be put on a different gun. I only played for like an hour though so I could be wrong.

Joe can't do a zombie game review without other joe saying "hey joe, do you want to play another zombie game"

LOLOL! Joe gluing attachments onto the guns was just comedy gold

I really hope Far Cry 6 isn’t a rapid fire review!

Man, AJ really hit the nail on the head. Playing B4B (see, I used it Devs), it's clear the game isn't a bug filled mess thankfully. Instead, it's plagued by some really, really bonehead design decisions that AJ has captured in this review. While TRS could fix many of these in post-launch updates, I'm not so convinced that they are actually listening to their community.

There’s an insane difficulty spike between easy and normal and it just kills the fun. I played with 3 other competent players, and we could barely make it to the first ogre in Act 1…just feels like shit.

They hyped up this game as being made by the l4d creators when it was less than 5% of the original crew..

I think the vast majority of people, including reviewers and the creators of these games themselves, seem to miss is that the "Left 4 Dead" games were kind of built on a movie-concept. - The idea was that you're playing through like a movie or series or scenarios anyway, to the point that each campaign or chapter also had a chapter name, even its own poster (the loading screen and actual posters you could buy (RIP Valve Store)), and then ending with an actual credit-roll that showed the statistics of the gameplay in it. - And it's not like the game NEEDED that, in fact I've always felt like they could've done a little more with it or not bothered. However, the point is, that's what gave the game character, that was the theme (besides being horror/apocalypse), it created the settings, characters, ambience, and so forth. - This is what "Back 4 Bleh" did away with, whether it was intentional to either not bother or not do the same thing as their own "Left 4 Dead", or because of ignorance and overlooking the essences of those games. - This is why "B4B" lacks character and some immersion.

So glad you brought up the terrible bot AI. In one of the levels where you had to defend the bar, one of my bots was running in place on top of the jukebox and lending zero support while we had to defend the location for like 5 minutes straight. What a nightmare.

“From the creators of Evolve.”

I just want the randomly physics back. The pipe bomb exploding the zombies everywhere was one of the things that made it fun in l4d

I think they did amazing replicating a modern gaming troll and putting it into an A.I.

Needs a split screen co-op mode like L4D man, I would have immediately brought this if that was the case, regardless of the flaws

OJ's smile when Joe snatches the box out of his hand is so wholesome.

OJ's username in that boat mission "Imtryingbro311" was just too perfect for that clip

Maybe review Metroid Dread? It’s a short/ manageable game that won’t take a ton of your time and I think it’s great!

Since joe and act man know each other, here's hoping we can get a collab review someday.

That intro was top tier XD I love that AJS had been going long enough to have so many 'in' jokes.

Funnily enough Joe its the opposite when you said "They must've gotten brutal feedback for the difficulty". Everyone in Beta pretty much agreed the difficulty transition from Easy > Normal/Hard was way too insane. Easy was a cake walk, but then normal was akin to being slapped around silly with how stupid the game director would be. Hard difficulty was just blatantly unfair. Its like they took our feedback and did nothing with it. Its just not fun when the game director decides to spawn 3 tallboys that can sprint faster than you and 1 shot you, and also become bullet sponges all in the first 5 minutes of the first level.

The first two, three minutes of this video might be a new contender for "best opening to an Angry Joe Review".

I can recount one time where I was playing with randoms, I had a Vector SMG kitted out with some of the best attachments in the game, and sweet load of copper to spend during each round. It was a satisfying feeling of achievement, but I had a random who was constantly shooting birds, cars, and triggering door alarms at every opportunity to start a horde and waste our ammo. Because there was no kick option, I had no other choice but the end the run and start another one, completely losing all of the good weapons and attachments I managed to get during the run. It was one of the most rage-inducing things I think I've ever experience in a shooter.

Big surprise, just over a year later they abandon the game 🤣

This only just goes to show that Valve played the biggest role in making Left 4 Dead the game it is today.

The way that opening cutaway subverted expectations was quite funny.

When I played Left 4 Dead 2 as a kid, I was thoroughly enjoying it, I was investing so much time into it and was begging for more, the replayability is almost infinite and I still love it to this day. This game however, doesn't give me that same feeling, I played it for 2 hours and I was already bored from it

Yeah, Crowbcat showed at the end of his Back 4 Blood vid that out of the 180 some odd devs from LFD2, only like 6 of them are still working for Turtle Rock. So don't trust the company, trust the talent, and clearly those six weren't it.

I love your guys' angry reviews man. Even if I'm not even interested in the game, I check these out. Always quality entertainment. Thanks so much for the hard work!

Only 4 minutes into this review and it reminds me of older AJS videos, a lot of effort and time came into this one Joe and Co. Skits have me laughing and feeling engaged

Remember, you could have "fun with friends" just sitting in a pile of garbage, throwing it at each other. For how long could you imagine having fun doing that alone? lol

"made by the developers of Left 4 Dead" They mean 7. 7 developers from Left 4 Dead. Out of dozens.

Thank you, everything said in this is accurate about this subpar game. Ita a good time with friends, better that it's "free" on gamepass. But the game as a whole is two turds down

“No split-screen” Well fuck, that’s the only way I’d buy it is to play couch co-op with my wife. She and I still play L4D2 together to this day. She was looking forward to this release, too…

Just a thought when I was in culinary school, instructors would always tell us whenever we have a practical exam to always keep our dishes simple. It's good to try and make complex things/techniques BUT the best way to express skill and technique is on a simple well put together dish. It reminds me of left 4 dead. The design is so simple, yet the gameplay regarding how players tackle the map/infected/special infected is varied and complex.

From the creators of..... Evolve.

I would love an angry review of marvels guardians of the galaxy I’m skeptical of the game but would love to see a skit about it , love your reviews go angry army!

For years Joe has slept in his jacket.

Left4dead series and the dead rising games were my addiction back in the day with zombie games. Just seems really and seems like more of a chore than a fun game. The left4dead 2 animation though was awesome.

One of the many bullshit things behind this game was the marketing. Everywhere you see them proclaim "FROM THE CREATORS FROM LEFT 4 DEAD," and you compare the actual credits, and you see that out of the hundred+ people who worked on the left 4 dead games, only like FIVE of them are still at Turtle Rock for back 4 blood, and they weren't even important developers. Just five nobodies out of a hundred, and they're trying to manufacture this epic comeback by repeating "FROM THE CREATORS OF LEFT 4 DEAD-" like fuck off

30-35 minutes is the perfect length for an Angry Review.

veteran was already extremely hard in beta, they got feedback the easy difficulty was too easy and bumped all of them up

I saw the $60 price tag and literally laughed out loud. No F'n way!

"C'mon Coach.... maybe.... the helicopter.... is made of chocolate!" 😂❤ F*cking L4D2 will be with me forever. B4B? Nope I'll forget it ever existed within 5 years.

This was such a fun review! Especially that glue part!

My favorite part of this game was getting my $60 refunded.

1:25 is the reason why I am looking forward to Dying Light 2 review.

I personally call this game, not back for hipster blood

I loved L4D and L4D2 when they first came out. I remember the witch used to scare the hell out of me. Joe is right about sound, the witch's musical cue really creeped me out.

🤗You got to be proud of other Joe in waiting patiently for Joe to wake from his night terrors before asking to play more zombie games.

That troll that intentionally ruined the mission just to be a dick is the reason I HAAAAAATE online only games. Well made, balanced bots with good commands is always better unless you have a dedicated group

Look at crowbcat video on this game as well

There's a relatively decent foundation set but they really, really need to go back and add alot of features. You've summed it up quite well I must be honest.

The glue gun scene oh man had me laughing hard. It's been long since I laugh that way.

That actman cameo was hilarious, good shit joe

2021 has maybe been the worst gaming year ever. Resident evil 8 game of the year at least lol. :) otherwise damn. Ratchet and clank too :)

My biggest problem is this game was 60 at launch when I have a feeling it'll be like 30 by black Friday/Christmas