Bad Fuel / Down on Power - Powermate Generator Sitting for Years

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This generator was used for a few times when new then put away for 14 years with fuel in the tank. The prior owner noticed the problem after the fuel tank bushing failed and starting leaking the bad fuel onto the floor. Can the carburetor and fuel tank be saved? Will the generator run and make power?
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@jeanbaptistevallee4500 Год назад

I`m way old and I no longer have a place to try and fix up stuff that was cheap, that I could never afford if it wasn`t broken. But by golly, I can watch and sort of re-live "Those thrilling days of Yesterday!" Thanks again for a good morning!

@rancelynch6514 Год назад

Yes, I feel the same you do…. Living vicariously thru someone else….feels like I need to wash my hands after watching his videos ! !

@erik_dk842 Год назад

Reality TV for sane people

@venenareligioest410 Год назад

Came home, 11+ Videos waiting for me - ignored 10 then straight to this channel 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

@PabloDiablo682 Год назад

Lots of people underestimate how much a little cleaning on whatever they are selling, helps it sell faster and for more money.

@user-smalltownAK 6 месяцев назад

..the lack of permanent magnet in generator by design, after significant time spend new-unused in-the-box, and never started since bought..(?) With a spare genset such as this, how to energize the device and make it work..? This generator likely is 10HP 5000 Watt; but memory fades, so can't be certain; and it is over 110 miles one way, distant.. Still has the factory break-in oil, and power cable, etc in the kit! An out of town cabin, is where the unit is stored. Bad weather and distance plus wintery mix extreme snowfall then subzero, slow efforts to head out remote in midwinter.. The generator from Home Depot in Anchorage, was one of two, got one for a neighbor who ran theirs in the Kenai Mountains, south of urban AK. Two miles south of Moose Pass, where I grew up.. Thank you for your video and tenacious repair skills; at least you have a warm dry place to repair stuff out of the weather.🙂 PS: Probably will have to rescue it, and hope the lack of 'permanent generator magnet' is not critical or costly to overcome..!🌻❄

@michaelschumacher3702 Год назад

I'm jumping the gun, but my go-to for cleaning a plastic tank like that is TSP - Trisidium Phosphate - from the paint department. Not sure if we can buy it here in NY, but I manage go pick it up elsewhere from time time to time. It gets cigarette tar off walls and mixed with very hot water, it floats all kinds of varnish off small engine parts.

@billiehydrick6417 Год назад

I really appreciate watching you and learning more about generators repairs and service experience

@sn0w_gel597 Год назад

looks like James is even for a moth a bright light❤️ 20:07

@chucktrotter9699 Год назад

10.6.22 James, another fantastic repair video. I did not see you check the valves.

@ninaevans4501 Год назад

You repair them, check them, and clean them. You are a man who thinks the same as me and my other half (Wayne). Sorted to perfection (as far as you can). Loving you and your vids. Nina Evans & Wayne Brill (Ipswich, Suffolk, UK)❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️👍👍👍👍👍

@gregorypiercesr.2769 Год назад

Being thorough is the key! I can't wait until my grandson is assisting me with power equipment.

@beezalbub7325 Год назад

1st lol. keep these great videos coming. You mentioned the old capacitor did not have a polarity marking, I respectfully disagree. At time 37:29 you can clearly see the label indicating the tab with a pattern is the negative.

@jcondon1 Год назад

I eventually found it

@mikerossman9863 Год назад

I bought the same Gen for $50, put $95 in it and it runs like a champ. Powers my camper with ease and use it at the property. I have it mounted on a small single axel trailer with a old truck tool box with all the ext cords, splitters, daisy chains and adapters. Uses a bit of oil but that to be expected. Keep a few tools on hand in the box along with oil and fuel additive when I plan to store it for an extended length of time. Always fires up first pull can’t ask for more from it.

@steveobrien8792 Год назад

I really want to thank you for your videos. I started watching about a week ago, after doing some maintenance on my Rigid zero gravity MZ360. I've learned a lot in just the week and have been able to use this info on other small engines as well. My Mother had been complaining that her Lawn mower was getting harder to pull start. I would have never thought that adjusting the valves would fix this problem until I watched one of your videos where you explained the pressure release mechanism. I was able to fix her lawn mower in a short amount of time. I have my generator stored away after hurricane Ian but when I get it out again I'm going to check the valves on it as well because I've noticed it getting a little harder to turn over as well.

@LeewardStudios Год назад

James I had a diesel mechanic show me a trick with ultrasonic cleaners. Put water in the cleaner but put parts with diluted cleaning solution in a zip lock bag. Then place that in the ultrasonic. He used it to keep bolts and parts organized while cleaning. Also keeps the sonic cleaner neat and saves the time having to clean it out of sludge, dirt etc. I have done this cleaning brass “freedom seeds” of differing caliber to help keep things organized. The ultrasonic energy goes right through the plastic bag and does not affect the cleaning at all.

@johnclamshellsp1969 Год назад

Good morning James. Always great videos and thank you.

@davidcooner3249 Год назад

A neighbor put the exact same generator on the curb. I got it cleaned the tank and put an Amazon replacement carburetor on it it runs and makes power. I think it needs adjustments as well. Watching your video was very helpful to me.

@BIG.STEVE13 Год назад

Hi Jim got a tip for cleaning your fuel tanks put some kitchen paper in tank and blow it round inside the the tank you can get it in places you can't reach and great videos

@bjusticeforever Год назад

James, nice job. I recently had to solder a cap onto one of these boards. I wanted to tell you about the Powermate I just finished (a Subaru Robin EX30) that had a Chinese carb that ran rich with no-load. I rebuilt, then eventually replaced the carb with another Chinese knock-off and it did the same thing as the Chinese carb I pulled off. Buying a $160 original carb wasn't an option for me, so I bought another, and it did the same thing as the first two. I ended up filling in the pilot-jet with JB Weld and reducing the original .026" jet down to .018". I'm thinking about making a video and posting it. It runs PERFECTLY now. I had seen a previous video of yours where you commented you had a box full of Chinese knock-offs for this particular motor. I hope this helps you out. I know you've helped me before!

@FirstSuiGeneris Год назад

Glad to see you got one of those fuel pumps. I use them for all kind of things and have about five of them, one for oil, def, fuel, and gas. Then one for a back up. They save the back and messes!

@dantyler6907 Год назад

Weirdly satisfying to watch... Learned a lot!

@danburch9989 Год назад

It's been several years, but I believe the markings on the label is positioned on the side closest to the negative terminal of the capacitor. The positive terminal is furthest away from the markings. It appears the "-negative" along with the green dot annotaton on the label follows that convention.

@davidfoulk3078 Год назад

I’ve always had really good luck using clear lacquer thinner when cleaning a plastic gas tank. As usual another “out of the park” repair!

@detroitredneckdetroitredne6674 Год назад

Hello from Detroit Michigan brother thank you for sharing your knowledge and expertise

@blahblahblahblah2933 Год назад

Nice fix. A few notes: Big electrolytic caps typically have way worse tolerances. Something like +/- 20% is typical over their life (checked a couple of datasheets from TEAPO and I believe that's true of those series). Those caps can also fail due to their ESR increasing without major loss of capacitance.

@ickipoo Год назад

I believe a high ESR can also make the capacitance read higher than it actually is.

@chrishartley1210 Год назад

The ESR typically increases as the capacitor begins to fail, this in turn causes increased internal temperature which usually finishes the failure process. I'm not sure of the purpose of generating a DC voltage here, is it something related to the governor?

@jeremydewolfe8026 Год назад

Don’t forget bench testing a cap just barely on edge of spec is one way to check for obvious failures but also a dynamic inline running test using voltage and simple multiplication math may show issues not present in testing caps out of circuit! I see how this could be slightly more dangerous but only about as dangerous as adjusting the pot on a running generator with an avr.

@chrishartley1210 Год назад

@@jeremydewolfe8026 I considered that option, but on this generator it would have involved dismantling to access the capacitor, attaching wires, reassembling, testing, then repeating to remove the wires. Probably not worthwhile in this case considering that the capacitor was bulged and the capacitors are not expensive.

@r8118830 Год назад

@@chrishartley1210 The DC voltage feeds DC current into the brushes which powers the rotor. Earlier versions of this generator had a PCB with 4 pairs of diodes and the electrolytic capacitor mounted on its surface. I recall James sending some of these boards for repair to Bassguitarist1985. The firm has since realised that the whole board could be replaced entirely by a separately mounted capacitor and a separatedly mounted GBPC style full wave bridge rectifier.

@Bassguitarist1985 Год назад

Nichicon is my favorite brand of capacitor. Tolerance is likely +/-20% for that electrolytic cap. Its only smoothing the rectified DC as a passive filter.

@MrTonyPiscatelle Год назад

Another great job James, You have a good eye for detail and it definitely pays off.

@brianwood5220 Год назад

Great job James. Just in time for the Generator season. Thanks for sharing.

@arthurbiringer5676 Год назад

Another award winning job!

@hanksbud2544 Год назад

Thank you James.

@1SmittysGarage Год назад

Always detailed informative quality work! Blessings and respect to the grind and hustle!

@larrykelly2838 Год назад

Great acquisition Doc., great generator for someone.

@AZVIDS Год назад

Great fix and clear explanations👍👍👍

@commercialelectrician133 Год назад

Great video

@HipaParts Год назад

Really learn a lot. Helpful video

@moody326 Год назад

You most definitely helped me. Thank you 🙏

@er1073 Год назад

Attention to detail like you always show in your videos helps a lot. That carb was far from being cleaned. This sitting for 14 years really turned out pretty good. Thanks James. Ed

@adnacraigo6590 Год назад

I have learned a lot from your persistant troubleshooting.

@timgarner6768 Год назад

Thorough. Meticulous. Wonderful approach.

@rossflores4394 Год назад

Great stuff 👏 James

@jayjudd6518 Год назад

Interesting one. Good outcome even thought I saw surprised.

@watermanone7567 Год назад

NIce find, Nice fix Jim. Thanks for the video.

@gregsappington9991 Год назад

Thanks for showing everything you do. I have 5 generators and have learned a lot from you!!!!

@AntonioClaudioMichael Год назад

Cleaned up pretty nice Cleaned csrb it runs amazing looks like it had never been used with how clean that exhaust is @James Condon

@wildefox1478 Год назад

That generator was in pretty good condition and only needed some minor repairs, nice work as always James!

@andrewgrace4410 6 месяцев назад

Very nice troubleshooting James, good find 😊

@loucinci3922 Год назад

Another good video. Good job. Thanks for sharing

@hectorarroyo2285 Год назад

Nice job, Mr. James!!!😁😁😁👍👍

@ronaldlapointe1219 Год назад

Dear James, I discovered on RU-vid your videos and I am very delighted to see your way of solving the problems that are offered to you. I like your analyzes and your solutions and especially not to throw away and replace...it's like a second chance for these sometimes very expensive machines...thank you and I now I’m a new subscriber to you! 👍

@peterouellette3874 Год назад

Nice going

@DeadKoby Год назад

Fine work as always. Nice to see something different than the usual China generators that are mostly the same other than color and name. The plastic fuel tank was a blessing, as the inside won't go to rust.

@v-g-z3689 Год назад

I´m very surprised to see such a 60´s Power-Products style fuel valve on a generator that modern.

@ninaevans4501 Год назад

Once again, you share much technical knowledge to those who may consider small engine repair and refurbishment. It is done in a clear and logical approach. Can't wait for your next video. All the best. Wayne & Nina (Ipswich, Suffolk, UK) 😊😊😊👍👍👍

@warrend114 Год назад

Your channel has become my favorite channel to watch without a doubt. I would love to know how you find all these obscure parts though.

@hugh007 Год назад

What? Chinese parts, like gaskets, won't resist gasoline? I'm shocked. Like the NEW starter I put in my truck just over a year ago: now intermittent. Great job. thanks.

@rancelynch6514 Год назад

I really appreciate your generator fixit videos. With me I’ve always had a mental struggle with which is preferable…capacitor or AVR generator heads. In my life time I remember house electrical appliances first rated at 110 volts then 115 volts now 120 volts. So it was confusing to me when I would hear you be satisfied with a voltage reading less than 120v but still try to get the cycles/sec as close to 60 as possible. Now I can say cycles more critical.

@Fatamus Год назад

Thankx👍

@lavina58 10 месяцев назад

Thanks for video 🙌👍👌😊🍀

@rayshutsa6690 Год назад

James you are very professional and meticulous. Your diagnostic skills are amazing I am always learning something new every video. Great save on this generator. Love your channel and content. ❤🇨🇦

@crisprtalk6963 Год назад

"It earned an oil change" Pretty sure I heard the generator let out a gasp of relief at that point.

@alfredocuomo1546 Год назад

capacitors are one of the most common failures in electronic equipment, their capacitance is most important, followed by it's Break down voltage and then it's ESR value but if there is any Bulging or leakage it must be replaced no matter what. Also you can always replace a capacitor with a equal to or higher voltage rating. Nice video as always Jim.

@throwbo Год назад

While you were in there you should have re-greased the bearing in the end cap. Those end caps are plastic and if the bearing overheats it will melt its seat and that's the end of the gen because the end caps are NLA.

@vk4uh96 Год назад

Another great video diagnostic success. Two suggestions to think about. About failing capacitors. The test that I suggest is to measure the ESR (Equivalent Resistance Series) not just the capacity in uF. Needs a different test meter but cheap to get. Low ESR is good, rising ESR is sign of failure. Bad caps often read normal capacity on a simple multimeter but ESR goes up so they dont work as they should. Also bridge rectifiers can fail - but still work. They contain 4 diodes connected in a square. If one fails they still produce DC on load for the field coil but at a lower voltage. Easy to test all four diodes in the block with the multimeter you already have there

@thepubliceye Год назад

I have two feet of 3/16 welded chain I put in rusted/dirty tanks and shake, it really makes a difference.

@justgetrinthere Год назад

Another thorough job as always Very informative especially the capacitor being polarity sensitive on gennys Must be a diode inline on those Unlike the capacitors i deal with daily in hvac

@jameshedrick605 Год назад

Nice fix. I've gone through a lot of scotch brite pads fixing so many generators that i've found in the garbage from rewatching some of your older videos. Most of them just needed a valve job and a couple needed a new AVR

@davidjones1393 Год назад

THKS

@RWebster325 5 месяцев назад

Have one very similar to this one. Carb definitely needs a rebuild. Power head works but have not fully tested it yet like here, but it probably does need a new cap as well. The carb on this one is different than the one on mine, and mine has electric start as well. It appears to have the same engine though. This video and one other with a similar configuration but different engine has helped tremendously. Thanks.

@davidbohner2061 Год назад

Amazingly good 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️✅✅✅✅✅

@petethehandyman9185 Год назад

Great job sir! I have had one of those for 20 years and it has gotten me through many hurricane seasons! They are so very reliable as long as you take care of the carb! I wonder how many of those were made ?

@r8118830 Год назад

Very nice job James. The generator was in very good condition. I dont think that it was left out in the rain because there was not any rust.

@floridadave224 Год назад

When it looked like IAN was headed our way I dragged out the generator that hadn't been used since hurricane IRMA. Of course it wouldn't start so started watching your videos. I didn't know anything about generators but learned to pull the carburetor, clean it and put it back together. It ran for a couple minutes then would stop. Then I learned the gas cap is what vents the gas tank. Took the cap off to see if that solved the problem....Bingo! Fortunately we ended up not needing it. Wish i had a way to donate it to the people in SW Florida that really need it.

@jcondon1 Год назад

Glad you got it running and did not need it. Nothing worse then being in a situation where you need it and it does not work.

@freddyrosenberg9288 Год назад

I have one of those ultrasonic cleaners. The electronic ontrols go bad real quick and then you can't use the heat or the clean. I bypassed those with a mechanical GE timer and it is still working.

@deangentles4966 Год назад

Hi James this generator was in pretty good nick so not used much Always love watching you do your trouble shooting another good job mate

@jcondon1 Год назад

Thanks Dean!

@christophermarshall5765 Год назад

This is why I turn the fuel off & run the carby dry. If the fuel in the tank becomes stale, I simply remove the fuel hose from the carby, & drain the tank.

@AntonioClaudioMichael Год назад

Sometimes Nock off parts like gaskets that come in a multipack are junk and oem is best @James Condon

@AntonioClaudioMichael Год назад

Capacitor helped a little bit bringing the voltage back up to 111 volts but didn't do much

@davidwelling9471 Год назад

Needs an adjustable carb. I have a Coleman with same problem that adjustment on bottom of carb fixed.

@KensSmallEngineRepair Год назад

I always get cockeyed when I rebuild one of these carbs as the float seems to be set too high in its un-adjustable position (when viewed held upside-down), I always think it will flood out but it never does. Nice work Jim.

@jcondon1 Год назад

Thanks Ken

@shadowpotatoe9482 Год назад

Decent generator, not sure the govener system is good enough to hook to your house and run sensative electronics but it works. The huge dip when it first sees a load and the kinda galloping when the load is taken off quickly is not what I would want for anything electronic. Although it may not act the same in that use case

@annierenard5954 Год назад

OEM parts are always the best choice

@ninaevans4501 Год назад

You're a real treasure James, loving you here in Ipswich, Suffolk, UK. ❤️❤️❤️🫂🫂🫂

@PaulHigginbothamSr Год назад

I have the feeling that a valve resetting might even make this genset slightly better. The capacitor definitely helped. I never saw the regular oil change. I would settle for the way this one is running if mine the way it is but would move the governor over one more hole. It should make someone a good genset all in all. I thought I could hear ignition knock on the time before but just might have been a rattle somewhere. Possible to add a slightly higher octane, but not sure. Thank you James for a good video.

@jcondon1 Год назад

I heard the same. Was looking for a rattle, but think it was the fuel.

@rainmanrays Год назад

I really wish you would write a general repair book on generators. Because I would read it.

@Firecul Год назад

TBF the old capacitor did say on the label that the hashed side is negative @37:30. Typically there would be a stripe at the negative also which is potentially an indication here but it could also be this one just got lucky and ended up in the right place depending on how cheaply it was made.

@mjg263 Год назад

Nice work! It’s funny, most folks I talk to who own generators seem to think that they should be stored with a tank full of fuel treated with stabilizer. When I tell them that it should always be run completely out of fuel before storing I get some very surprised reactions.

@jcondon1 Год назад

I always run the carburetor dry. I keep the tank full, but change the fuel out twice a year. Probably better for most to keep the tank dry.

@forestsantos9828 Год назад

I have always thought the same thing about shutting off the fuel and running the carb dry for storage, but i just bought a small inverter generator, and it has a low fuel shut off to prevent you from running the tank dry.

@tomcroley7084 Год назад

Excellent video, you are a Master Mechanic. I have one of these. What about adding a filter between the tank and carb? All inputs welcome. Thx

@jamesbruce1183 Год назад

A capacitor can test pretty good under the low voltage of your test meter but not work well under actual voltage. The larger capacitance of the new capacitor will make the DC voltage a little higher and more steady so that may explain the better voltage regulation from no load to full load. ESR (effective series resistance) is not measured with your meter either. The old capacitor having the base puffed out is a giveaway to it being failed. It's a built in safety to prevent a rupture of the case.

@mcg6762 Год назад

A bulging cap has probably failed with high ESR. The capacitance can still be good, sometimes even over spec. An ESR meter is recommended.

@michaelmathews295 Год назад

I was working on a Kawasaki motorcycle with a full gas tank that had set at least 15 years. I got it drained out but I had 5 gallons of the most horrendous smelling fuel I've ever encountered. I couldn't use it in my car and couldn't dump it or burn it off. I've got a large cement patio in my backyard so I thought if I spread it out over the whole area that it would evaporate to nothing. I dumped it out but the whole neighborhood could smell it as it was drying out. My neighbor even called the Gas company because she thought there was a natural gas leak as I saw a worker sniffing around her back yard. Luckily it dissipated after an hour or so and I was free and clear. I ran into this a few years later but I could dispose of it at a family farm and burned it off.

@PaulMack1249 Год назад

Jim, this video taught me a couple of things. First, use OEM parts whenever possible. The clone kit gasket looked a bit flimsy when you were putting it on the carb and ultimately failed. The other thing is to purchase generators that come with an AVR. I’m perplexed as to why a manufacturer would omit one considering how well they regulate the voltage under load, and the parts are very inexpensive. In any case, nice job as usual.

@throwbo Год назад

20 years ago they were more expensive and somewhat exotic. Bridge rectifier plus capacitor was the standard at that time. Colemans were positioned where cheap Chinese gens are now - sold in big box stores for the lowest possible price.

@pesto88 Год назад

You said the the guy selling it “wasn’t sure where to go from there”. Doesn’t he watch your videos? That’s a violation 😂

@ricklavictoire4806 Год назад

I had a small comment on the petcock grommet replaced in the tank. I have bought some of these aftermarket grommets and they are not super tight fit. They seem fine but if your generator is exposed to extreme cold I have seen them start to leak. Seems like the component material is not a pliable as the original.

@MitchEllis-dn9lf Месяц назад

Acetone might be a better choice for you with so little that you can give on hazardous cleanup day. Acetone can be left open to the atmosphere to evaporate and all you be left with will what doesn’t evaporate, no fire around as acetone is very flammable and the vapors even more so.

@gordonwilloughby8793 Год назад

A full wave rectifier like that typically has 4 diodes. If one fails it works as a half wave rectifier producing pulsating dc because it only conducts when the ac goes in one direction. I believe it might still work but would produce less power.

@r8118830 Год назад

If one of the diodes went short circuit then the full ac waveform would feed through it. The effect of that depends on what it is feeding.

@gordonwilloughby8793 Год назад

@@r8118830 You are correct and now that you mention it I remember a time when I replaced a diode shorted out in a reverse connection protection circuit in a CB radio. I believe it shorted when it was corrected backwards. I have seen diodes become open in full wave rectifiers so It could happen either way.

@TheMickeymental Год назад

Love your videos and your awesome children. I have watched every video you have made and I admire the way you leave in mistakes, but i am not sure if that is the correct term. What I would like to see is the total cost of the parts used to fix these machines, of course without disclosing any information you deem as not good business practice. I do have one request. The Honda EU 2200I or EU 2200I maintenance schedule has a combustion chamber cleaning. I have researched this and have read to put some Gumout in the cylinder and stare the engine and let it burn off. If you have an opportunity could you please do a combustion chamber cleaning using Honda's standard. Thank you very much.

@felixcardona8509 Год назад

Hi James.. very interesting video..!! any recommendation, looking to buy ultrasonic cleaner for occasional use..

@3-body-problem Год назад

I think the ultrasonic wont clean the bowl correctly if you place it upside down like that. Theres an air lock that the fluid wont reach (the bowl base). Also, I once saw another youtuber clean out a fuel tank by stuffing a bunch of blue paper towels inside and hitting it with compressed air to swirl them all around to mop up the mess. It worked suprisingly well.

@demetriosa7646 4 месяца назад

I don’t understand why generators stopped the plastic tanks. They last much longer and never any rust issues

@martinkennard1669 Год назад

Hi James. Love watching your very thorough tracking of problems. One question. Your "Kill A Watt" meter is not plugged into a source when you show it. Could you explain?

@jcondon1 Год назад

It is plugged into the outlet on the drop light.