Well, fortunately, they do not sell to the public. I have found out and have had an extensive conversation with the Auction as well and out of respect we’re going to keep it unnamed, but you won’t run across this again. I can assure that.
I would definitely call this builder out!!! This shit gives all car guy's a bad name!!! Shame on the auction company for not disclosing the condition of this truck!!!
There’s a lot of things that should have been disclosed, but it’s part of the industry unfortunately just have to learn but out of respect, we won’t disclose the Auction, the seller or the builder when we could easily definitely make them all the laughing stock of the Internet with a push of a button
@@DavisOffRoad1 all that does is allow someone else to get taken by not calling them out. Not everyone is restoration savvy to see all the shortcomings.
@@dondagy9109 i can agree on that point as well for sure. But If nothing else those that see the video and do there do diligence will understand and be more knowledgeable on things. Hey maybe thats all the ability that shop has who knows.... we just rather take the higher road at this point and let others learn that may stumble upon the video etc.
It still has a decent value. It is a good running fuel injected short bed Chevy. Keep watching. Trust me what goes around comes around get the popcorn 🍿 ready for this one
I’m really glad that you did this video to show people that don’t know any better what to look for. There is nothing worse than having to tell someone that they bought junk when they bring it to you to check it out!
It’s a damn shame, those trucks are one of the easiest trucks to restore. Everything is available parts-wise and relatively affordable. They are easy to wrench on, there isn’t anything on the truck that’s difficult to work on if you know what you’re doing. Disgraceful.
Absolutely. I recently bought a 1978 GMC K15 Stepside. Got doors, rockers, fenders, fender wells etc for literally less than $1000. You can get parts for these trucks all day long. Just have to put in the labor.
I have seen a truck from mecum that looks like this. Nice cruiser, but there is clear coat runs all around the bottom. Did you buy it sight unseen? Buyers need to do their research.
The 2 big auction places are a joke. Destroys the hobby in my opinion. A few years ago, my elderly neighbor wanted a change, so went to MECUM. He sold a truly legit 69 427 vette. Bought a 67 failane gt that was absolute junk with a paint job. MECUM did nothing, dude who sold it said "you bought it". Thanks for doing this video. People need to know about the crap on the market right now.
Wow,that is crazy,a waste of ruining a square body,I've always said,WY do people that can't do it right waste ruining a squarebody,Keep ur hands of if u can't do it right! THANKS FOR SHARING THIS.
You have to know what you are buying and just replace the door hinges and alignment and accept what you bought. That's a great year model of truck. So I really don't feel bad for you guys for buying. If you don't check it out first before buying? It's your loss
We don’t feel bad either just trying to educate people that don’t know so that they don’t buy something like this with all their money and have no more money to spend. We will make it into a nice truck.
Yep you’re right. But frame off restoration description 😂 wow. That’s just a bold face cover up lie. But it worked… in theory but pretty sure there will be less of it because not many in the square world miss our channel or other social media outlets we have. Just hope lesson learned and it doesn’t cost anymore. Every penny they have saved for a kids first time truck that they dreamed of and saved for … then it would really be a bad bad day
Thanks for sharing this information to the classic truck community, sorry you ended up with the truck, but you are a much bigger and better man for excepting it and moving forward.
Quality Door Striker Bolt kit for both doors are about $20 total. I'm 70 years old, it took me less than ten minutes to remove install and adjust both doors. The frame issues and especially those leaf spring shackles and bushings were criminal. Someone could be killed with that monkey business. The front is too high looks silly.
I mean if it was just a guy fixing up his truck and not a professional he did a good enough job,looks like a decent driver..When I was 16 I thought I did a awesome job but if I would see them now I probably would cringe...The problem is the auction company mislabeling the truck...then again auctions are auctions,I have seen junk go for $90k before! I am into Mopar and you see so many so-called restored and they are worse than this truck! Missing trim,crappy done interior with parts missing and total junk..1/4 panels wrong and engines rebuilt with performance parts and they are slower than a smaller stock base engine etc..etc..
And yes, if it wasn’t for the representation of frame off, which we have the photo on the Jumbotron showing frame off restoration properly done etc that’s the part that made it bad not bad but TERRIBLE if it just ran across the block as an average old truck, we would’ve purchased it as an average old truck and we would’ve been pleased not happy but we would have got what we bargained for
I disagree! Whoever built this went out of their way to purposely deceive the buyer from the problems! All that undercoating and paint to cover/hide rust is despicable! My guess is the further you dig into this, the more problems you will find!
My buddy bought a 70 Charger convertible like this. But he knew it was cobbled together. Before buying. The body and frame were solid and paint was good. So he still bought it.
The duel tank switch is missing and the instrument panel looks like it's from a diesel truck. The body looks real nice. I had two square bodies and they always broke down and needed to be fixed all of the time and I don't miss them trucks.
Just stumbled upon this channel. I have a buddy who sells cars and has been screwed over by auction houses. I wouldn't buy vehicles without seeing them in person. I get that's the new reality though. Great job on this video. New subscriber now!
I drive past your shop a lot on my way home to Chester from Richmond and gawk at your trucks while driving by. You have some nice stuff there. I bought my carport from you guys a long time ago.
I came to the comments to make a comment, but it looks like many others have already said what I was about to say! I fully understand the maturity and professionalism about not mentioning the "culprits", but unless you got this truck for a price you can't say no to, I believe you should try to return it. Just to make the auction house think twice next time, plus maybe cause some tension between the auction house and the seller/rebuilder. Otherwise, as you said, if you make a few repairs and make the truck right, this truck will get scarfed up in no time, I'm sure. They're very desirable now, as you know! PS. Kudos to you for not trying to pass it on as is.
Oh yes, you’re definitely correct on that but all of the incoming lead wires are also cut so they could do aftermarket gauges complete hack job. We are cleaning up currently.
I've been to auto auctions over the past 18 years. It's a 50/50 on good verse lemon. These days over raided prices. For beer cans sitting on rubber. I'm still driving a 90 truck. If it breaks fix it. Keep on trucking. Cheers.
Yes, sir, you are correct but the auction house has some responsibility. They do have eyes and can see the misrepresentation was not only by the seller, but also by the auction for not catching this.
Thank you for posting this. The uninformed and inexperienced could learn to just look a little closer at the details that make these "restorations" valuable. From your short walkaround, I see less than 400$ in parts needed, with the time and know-how that would have yielded a 40k truck. no excuses for not adjusting the bed correctly, replacing pedal pads, ALL bushings, a weekend under the hood, my god...can just keep going. buff and wax. And to think that whoever did this, it's not the first time. Screwing ppl for years I'd bet.
That’s something one would do to ‘fix up an old beater’ that you’re going to actually drive and use. To try and pass it off as a ‘frame of restoration’ is beyond ridiculous and shady. As one who has been in the old car industry since high school, I’ve seen plenty of stuff that is like this and when I’ve sold them, I let the buyer know EXACTLY what they’re getting, a cool old ride that you can do some finish work to and make it even better. But I never could sleep at night trying to pass off junk as a restored ride.
That’s one of the reasons for our detailed videos we feel like it helps the customers tremendously seeing what they’re getting. We also put a lot of faith in people actually representing Vehicles properly though and that’s the side of this one that is so wrong and we see so much of it happen, we are typically able to catch it, but it catches a lot of others their pants down unfortunately
It’s the bane of the industry. It really gives those who actually give a crap a bad rep because of sleazeballs who are just out to make a quick buck. For 25 years I’ve done paint and body work. I’ve seen so many people get ripped off by some charlatan with a lipsticked pig for a vehicle. Heck, I beg people to just take me with them to look at something just so they don’t get ripped off, I’ve just seen it happen so much I feel bad for folks who just don’t know what to look for.
Holy cow. I am currently doing my first ever restoration on an 85 GMC, and I am in no way an expert, but I wouldn't even think to cut the corners they did. Oh and the hole they decided to put a badge over in the cab was the switch to change fuel tanks.
I guarantee whoever did this really wouldn't care if you called them out. They might not get any more big auction sales. But they know their local/regional clientele will be happy roll around in what looks like a $40k truck for just $18k all day long.
That's sad! That separates the pro from the keyboard mechanics! Probably hoping some young kid would buy it before auction! Props to you for being a good man, not saying builders name!!!
You’re exactly right. They prayed on the novice for sure. And as for the name of the shop just a bigger person and a respect thing. Not that we would not like to call them out but it would cripple a business and maybe that should happen sometimes … if we save somebody else a costly mistake than it was worth it
@@DavisOffRoad1 you are definitely the bigger man! Just wanna add, a couple months ago went to Motorama in Harrisburg Pennsylvania. The so called show cars n trucks with tens of thousands dollar paint jobs with panel gap! Lol. You got a new sub my guy, much respect 💯💪🇺🇲
Oh yeah the industry is bad these days so many people just don’t see the good from bad… we can’t make every vehicle a six figure vehicle, but we can surely represent what is at hand properly
It’s not a learning curve we’ve been through well over 20,000 vehicles in this business you do lose some and win some the biggest point of this video was not complaining. We will fix it. We will get past it. It’s what we do all day every day … it was to show the blatant, misrepresentation that takes place at these bigger auctions
Bought a 78 c10 at auction last year... lots of new parts but lots of shoddy workmanship.. I got hosed big time and the auctioneer outright lied about some things and didn't disclose known problems... going to lose my shirt on this one
You're far more forgiving than I am, I would send it back. The "restoration" was not a frame-off because if had been, they would at least have pressure washed the frame and suspension components. I'm only halfway through the video and I'm more than a little bit pissed off. I'll watch the rest and can only imagine what additional horrors await me. You're an absolute saint for not putting the builder on blast.
Wait till you see part two and soon to come part three but if nothing else, this is proven a great example we’ve had such a reach out of people thanking us for educating because this is exactly what people buy all the time over the Internet. They will quickly learn dealing with a reputable dealer will go a lot further than this backyard hack crap. We have seen it time and time and time again this is by no means the first time and won’t be the last. It will end up a nice truck for somebody, but it should’ve been to start with part three is gonna be a really good one, especially after we speak to management exposing it internally the oversight and such a blatant one.
Part three will also show the block video where in bold letters scrolling across says frame off restoration as well as so many other things that obviously are not true
@@DavisOffRoad1 I'll be very interested to see how you clean up the engine bay. What the "builder" did was criminal and made the next guy's (your) work more difficult than it would have otherwise been. I'm waiting for part three.
That’s the thing that blows my mind and all of our guys continue to say the same thing … like it could’ve been so much cleaner and well done so much easier … the work that was put to make it wrong was way way more effort
I worked for a guy that would do shit like that. He had big and grand ideas but wouldn’t want to put time in it. He’d bid every job and according to him we’d come over his bid every time. I said, “well maybe you shouldn’t be the one bidding jobs”. I soon quit after that.
If you can’t do it right, the first time don’t do it at all. This kind of work is just ridiculous to have to do after somebody attempted to do it right just takes more time and more money.
I worked for a chevy dealer in TN, back in the 80s, we had 1 come in for it's first oil change at 3000 miles, our lof guy (not a kid) drained the oul and installed a new filter and lowered the truck and put new oil in it, he started in and raised it to check for leaks, it was about half way up when the harmonic ballencer went rolling across the floor, it had broken off the end of the crank, after I was done laughing I moved it across the shop and installed a new short block, just goes to show gm was making crap in the 80s
Unfortunately, not really an option last year, able to go to these auctions and facilities in person which we do not have the time staff or ability to do
Man this gives honest shops a bad name there are actually quite a few honest shops that would never let a vehicle out like this would definitely call out the builder or at least the auction.
Maybe one day we will but it’s not the important part as making people aware this happens every single day. We see so much junk that people pose as prizes it’s unreal. Just want others to know to look twice or have a educated shop check it before buying it
@@DavisOffRoad1 actually it is important for people who want work done or a vehicle restored and don't want to be swindled out of there hard earned money for shops that respect the vehicle owners as you do. It is important however I do understand how not wanting to blast another shop for maybe 1 or 2 mistakes the mistakes you showed should not be acceptable especially the safety aspects .
I had the 87 step side custom deluxe 1st vehicle I ever owned and I gave $7,500 in 95 for it but it was 3 speed with granny gear last year of those body styles and 1st of fuel injection loved that truck wished I still had it!!
I feel you. That's 90% of our bread and butter. Shit bought at auction. We have had 4 squares in the past year, 2 from auction, 2 from other shops. One had 6 dead mice in the overflow tank, another needed the whole drivetrain rebuilt. They were all restored, frame off.
O.k first of all guys, I've been watching just half of your video and I've commented before with you I am not afraid like 90% of the viewers are to say my name and what I am so proud of doing for 45 years over you-tube . I am a restorer also and am sickened to see this kind of truck build. I as you might remember am a generation older than you guys which even makes my past job even harder because it bumps me up another 25-50% in retail price bracket. Looking at your video here I can honestly say you probably have ---now I am not a square body expert but I am saying my comfortable whole sale area would be about 7-10K. That would leave me a bit of room to make it from it's current shit condition to something pretty acceptable. You guys know I am sure you can't make many of those deals and stay in business. Sorry for your loss !!!!!!!!!! Jim
Appreciate the support if nothing else it will teach some people what to look out for and realize there are a lot of shady people in this business unfortunately, that only wanna make a quick buck. Things like this happen, but if it was somebody’s first vehicle or their dream purchase, and it turned out like this, it would be very saddening. Just figure if we could save somebody the headache and heartache we would do so.
@@DavisOffRoad1 Well, all I can say is you guys are the exception----you're honest classic car and truck dealers ---hope you guys do good, good luck !!! Jim
This is the shit I live for. Thanks for showing their mistakes on their "show quality" build. This happens far too much. However the amount of class it takes to redo their bandaids and boogers without trashing them on broadcast here is hard to come by. Good on you. We are all in this business supposedly for passion of the craft, however for most that soons turns to bs baby back bitching about being broke or someone stirring a pot of drama. So it's cool to see someone pick it apart without the drama, just like the real life stuff we see EVERYDAY. We don't worry about who did it, we do it right so there is no need to question again.
I would call them out for real,when you popped that hood it told the story for you.Everything before that was bad but I could see a kid doing those shaky repairs but that spray everything job was a meat of it.
I have a 1965 Fiat 500 Nueva. Everything is present. 13HP two cylinder enging. Fiurspeed manual. The tires are from the late 60's or very early 70's. Body is solid, short of some surface rust. For a none frame off resteration. The employee quoted me a restoration price of $100,000. I told him off.😂😂
@DavisOffRoad1 If I may be so bold as to ask. What would you charge fo the same work? Granted the car has not been driven. Since the late 60's early 70's?
I know he bought sight unseen….but I would’ve ran as soon as I noticed the body line from the bed to cab was way off. It’s a good truck and can be fixed and is worth fixing. People using deceitful tactics of selling is nothing new, and can be found in all areas of business….
Yes, we couldn’t agree more hence the reason for this video, but we would not have made this video if it was not for the blatant misrepresentation through extremely reputable company, and if we had not seen it before, thankfully this was the first that we own this way, but we had heard the horror stories Just absolutely unreal. Watch part three if you have not already.
if you can't pre auction inspect it yourself hire a service to do it. If it's not as advertised you don't bid. Lack of due diligence beforehand is also foolish when your spending real money that you worked for. life lessons suck at times.
We learn lessons all the time it’s not to teach our own selves. We’ve had 50 years of doing it. It’s too educate those that don’t understand and the biggest point on this one is the misrepresentation watch episode three for the auction posted information.
The entire aftermarket has become a giant Failure ! Everything i have purchased in the last twenty years is junk ! Ive had to rework everything to the point of just making my own parts or just not using any aftermarket stuff. They can die off like so many others before them.
That is sad. I had the same body style but a Chevy. With a 350. I was living in Fort Myers at the time. I finally got the engine running perfectly. Then. Some stolen it. Left me only the cab. After the cops found it. It went to the junkyard. I had to pay for it all. They did leave me a note on the driver's door in spray paint. I can't say it on RU-vid of what it said. I just put a new transmission in it. They took the engine, transmission, and tires. Brand new 33-inch tires as well.
Auctions work just fine when vehicles are represented properly we’ve been buying from auctions for 47 years and have bought and sold over 20,000 vehicles. The problem lies when they are deception and untruthful people involved with false representation.
These trucks were shit boxes when they came out. Most were rusty as shit within 5 years and rattled right off the dealer lot. Now they’re popular, but that doesn’t make them a quality built truck.
I want to know how in the heck they even got the tailgate out of alignment. So they did a frame off restoration and reused all the old bushings? Glue a "1500" emblem over where the gas tank selector switch was? Definitely a shame to put that money into it and do a half-assed job
Makes me feel better about my 79 k20 I’m in the process of building. It’s far from perfect. But each piece I touch as I go… I do 100% right. With my ability and tools. Even if it takes longer and I’m moving slow. My truck compared to this at a glance… wouldn’t hold up well. But when I’m done.. there won’t be a laundry list of things that need to be corrected. It’ll be done, done.
Yep, a good 30 foot truck. Up close it's a mess. I would definitely return this junk. If not I would want a serious price reduction to help pay for some of your costs to repair/upgrade the shoddy work.
Yea, just finished whole video. Bad, bad, bad business and by the way probably 99% of us watchers know the auction company so you got that covered. Take care !!!! Jim from Iowa.
Why didn't they just use a 2 or 3 inch body lift on it to even everything out the body line? A whole set of poly bushings are cheep and everything is easy to install on square body. Wish I had it...but that's probably what it'd look like when I was done.
Replacing the bushings alone would level it more. If you have to use a body lift to hide fitment issues/stance, opens a can of worms, everything else wrong would be glaring
This truck was converted to single tank. Where they had that 1500 badge glued to the dash is right where the selector switch would be. I'd rather drive a square that was looking more like swiss cheese than this one. And as much as I hate to say this but this one would be better off as a parts truck at this point. Something else I noticed is it looks like the left rear is farther forward than the right rear unless the bed is twisted to the left.
It looks like the dash was to an original 6.2 l diesel. The glued badge covers the tank transfer switch hole. Rush build, by someone where a dollar means more than their reputation. Build em like your Grandma will be driving your Momma in it. God bless at God's speed
I’m watching with the volume muted . The biggest problem I see is the rear axle is crooked . The spacing at the driver side rear inner fender well compared to the passenger side is ridiculous. This thing drives in circles
@@DavisOffRoad1 Good deal . I’m glad to see it being corrected . Was I right ? Was the rear axle as cattywampus as it looked ? I had the same issue on a 💩lift job years ago
@@Dallas-Rife-UDX-347-Tennessee that part has not been checked but it could have a broke center pin in it for sure which is easy fix but causes big problems
I've been building cars since the mid seventies. The past few years I started building one or two at a time and if they don't want it right I don't take the job. Call them out they make us all look bad.
That's the way I was taught. My Dad was a farmer and he painted semi. trailers. I was taught to prep them and later paint. If it wasn't right the ole man would give us hell but lessons stuck.
