Bad Tank and Bad Fuel - Easy Fix?

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I picked up this Honeywell Generator from Facebook Marketplace for $100. According to the seller, it probably needs a new carburetor and the fuel system cleaned. Turns out it needs more then just a fuel system cleanup. Even with a new carburetor the engine is surging on choke and will stall when the choke is turned off.
Generator Model: HW5500
Displacement: 337cc
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Bad Fuel Tank, Bad Gas Tank, Carburetor Installation, Carburetor Replacement, Fixed, Gasket, Generator, Governor Droop, Hertz, Hipa, Hipa360, HipaStore, Honeywell Generator, Honeywell, How To, How-To, Insulator, Intake Manifold Leak, Kill A Watt, Kill-A-Watt, KillAWatt, Load Test, Running Lean, Small Engine, Surging, Tank Swap, Troubleshooting

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@garycumming8093 Год назад

I find your videos so informative and weirdly relaxing. Thank you

@tronmech Год назад

This video saved my backside, and my generator. My varb was seriously clogged and corroded. Took all the "scary" out of the work.

@jasharday5089 Год назад

I love the ending. Reminds me of a marvel movie, stay after the credits for a surprise!

@jawlb6029 Год назад

Love the ending with the backfiring engine and dog bark...classic! Always enjoy your videos,thanks!

@jcondon1 Год назад

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@philliphall5198 Год назад

We’re there’s dog it’s a good place to be and good people 😊

@piconano Год назад

I was shocked to see the carb bowl so clean! I was sure there would be a ton of pink jello inside.

@jcondon1 Год назад

I have a feeling the prior owner swapped it out and sold it when it still did not run.

@OttawaOldFart Год назад

Nice touch at the end with the dog bark

@MrTonyPiscatelle Год назад

I could sense the disappointment and frustration in your voice with the Hipa carb on the first install. Oh well you persevered and won ! again

@brianwood5220 Год назад

Keeping you on your toes James. 👍👍

@mrpetit2 Год назад

Thank god you removed that sticker....I was already typing all kinds of stuff 😅😁 Interesting to see that that gasoline didn't even burn!

@johnpullman3227 Год назад

For flattening both sides of the plastic isolater and the carb you could try resurfacing it on a piece of 200 grit sandpaper glued to a flat surface. You make having a well stocked inventory of spare parts look normal. Why do the clean freaks always regard our parts stash as "hoarding"? A discussion of the importance of venting to atmosphere on those carbs might be helpful. You helped me overcome that obstacle last year. As always James a well made video.

@GuysPlayingWithTools Год назад

I don't save parts, but mostly for a lack of room, it's not hoarding, it's great if you can spare the space.

@charlescook7623 Год назад

I enjoy watching you work. Thank you for taking the time to film, edit, and post!

@johnmckee7937 Год назад

Murphy was an optimist! Haha 😄

@wendellvoisin7090 Год назад

Speed droop adjustment. James, you might try moving the hole the speed setting spring is attached to change the droop of the engine under load, you might get is closer to where you want the droop to be.

@jameshedrick605 Год назад

Another generator brought back to life. And to think i thought i was the only that kept spare parts from other machines

@stevecaputi5664 2 месяца назад

The problem with the HIPA carburetor was not the plastic isolator it was the gaskets! I just got the same HW5500 generator for free with fuel leaking. I put the $20 carburetor on - which solved the leak - but it only ran with the choke on like in the video. I put the original gaskets back on after getting some hints from the comments. It runs perfectly now. Thanks to all!

@timmccurry2227 Год назад

When you installed the carb gasket over the plastic isolator I noticed the port opening did no align correctly. It was open to the air bleed channel in the isolator. This will give you a massive air leak. I've run into this many times and learned that you have to match up the gasket to the plastic isolator and the carb to the isolator or you get a massive air leak. I've always had better luck getting aftermarket carbs with the plastic isolator and gaskets. I really enjoy your channel and your work.

@killer2600 Год назад

The devil is in the details, this is very much like a Taryl Fixes All video where the owner tried and failed a DIY fix with aftermarket garbage that was the wrong stuff. I also noticed when James went to try the original carb, he left the new gasket on and double gasketed the install since the original gasket was still stuck on the carb.

@timmccurry2227 Год назад

@@killer2600 True, But we all make mistakes every day. That's what makes us all human. I have much respect for Mr Condon because it's not easy to do what he does. It's hard enough to just work on this type of equipment much less make a video and everything else that goes along with it. If it were easy everybody would do it.

@DeadKoby Год назад

There's always that one device that give your an extra challenge. Fine work as always.

@cutlow1383 Год назад

It appears you have several tanks, but the next time you cant locate one try Kreem fuel tank liner. It has worked well for decades on sealing and preserving rusty tanks. Great video!

@rogerjustice8835 Год назад

Kreem works great I’ve been using it for years. The smallest tank I’ve used it on was an antique Briggs engine, the largest was a 1967 Allis chalmers bull dozer. That dozer had a huge tank in the neighborhood of 10 or 15 gallon and it was full of rust, cleaned it out and sealed with kreem no more problems. Highly recommend kreem

@cliffpalermo Год назад

I worked in an auto repair shop with a waste oil burner and we would happily take bad fuel to mix in with the oil to keep the shop in the winter might be something to look for

@Roy_Tellason Год назад

Yeah, I've known a few garages like that. Proobably wouldn't hurt to ask around...

@martyb3783 Год назад

"Stop your typing" That made me chuckle. Great video as always.

@deangentles4966 Год назад

Hi James its was great sitting in your class today mate The generator looked in very good condition as always James thanks for sharing with us

@jcondon1 Год назад

Thanks Dean!

@markae0 Год назад

I love the ending of pealing off the sticker. LOL

@mastertech7104 Год назад

Nice job James. Thanks for removing the wrong decal..........LOL

@Skynet-1 Год назад

I wondered if you were going to remove the label. I shouldn't have second guessed you on that. Good repair! 👍👍👍

@brad9529 Год назад

Yeah same, I thought he was going to drop the ball on that. Nope still a hero.

@itsallfabrication Год назад

Thanks for the vid James.

@philippe5394 Год назад

Another great video James!! Thank you!

@billabernathy1541 Год назад

Nice repair, James. I used spray Berryman's carb cleaner to detect vacuum leaks on my autos. I'm sure you know that trick, but it is a good one. Thanks for sharing.

@Melicoy Год назад

SubScribe please people its free !

@PINKBOY1006 Год назад

A non lit propane torch works quite well too. Carb cleaner can soak through a paper gasket and cause false reads occasionally , but it is a good option in a pinch.

@billabernathy1541 Год назад

@@PINKBOY1006 I never thought of that. I mostly used the Berrymans on the plethora of vacuum hoses that would eventually get brittle and break on my old GM engines. Thanks for the propane tip.

@johncourtneidge 11 месяцев назад

Again, hurrah and thank-you!

@ScottHolderCrossPoint Год назад

Great "class" on working on these generators. Got to get after mine now. Thanks for being a great teacher!

@oldsranch Год назад

There you go, generating good content as always!

@DDS029 Год назад

EXACTLY, what sounds like what happened to mine. Can wait now to find out if this is the cure. Thanks.

@AntonioClaudioMichael Год назад

Wow at how clean that carb is

@NY411Info Год назад

I usually don't worry about the cycles per second (hertz) as long as it is 50-60 Hz. It is within spec. of the equipment it is running.

@AntonioClaudioMichael Год назад

Great video @James Condon

@a__133 Год назад

Incredible simple technic is shown on this kind of machines, jet very good work from your side.🖖

@mrobi5797 Год назад

Excellent video James. I find carburators are always tricky to play with.

@gretargretarsson Год назад

Nice of you to include the torque numbers for the bolts and thanks for posting this

@RustyNail5856 Год назад

Great video. i new that you would get it. and you did . good job keep the videos coming.

@danstark462 Год назад

Thank you.

@jimdavenport4484 Год назад

What a great video I seem to learn something new every video. I also like the fact that you admit when something has you stumped or you make a rookie mistake. Your videos really are fun to watch. Thanks for sharing your knowledge.

@rayshutsa6690 Год назад

Geat job James I like that you never give up. Always turn over every stone like the carb insulator. your attention to detail is impeccable. always like how you clean or paint the generator's to make them look there best. love your channel and content. Always waiting for your next video and project.. ❤🇨🇦

@YukonHawk1 Год назад

Great detective work on this one. Nice genny too.

@wildefox1478 Год назад

That plastic insulator was probably either warped or cracked, nice work repairing this generator James!

@bntrouble31 Год назад

Good morning 😃

@allotmentfornovices8256 Год назад

Another great tutorial video my friend thank you

@AntonioClaudioMichael Год назад

I had no idea Honeywell were Cloned Honda's neet @James Condon

@tonyc.4528 Год назад

"Stop your typing..." Bwahahaha!🤣

@annierenard5954 Год назад

very good video, thank you

@jonminer9891 Год назад

Hi, James. Interesting problem. An unusual part that was bad. Go figure. It reminds me of when it made a difference to how well I shot baskets depending on whether the net was chain or net. Thanks for sharing! Stay healthy!

@billiehydrick6417 Год назад

Thanks for sharing 👍 😊 enjoy your videos

@Chris-mj9fq Год назад

Feel like I just came straight outta a mustie 1 video lol good videos just recently started watching your channel

@alanbox2162 Год назад

Good video!!

@AZVIDS Год назад

Perfection👍👍👍

@ddblairco Год назад

thank you

@evilredBoris Год назад

James needs his own tv series.

@BKD70 Год назад

Isn't that what this is? 😉

@brendanhayes2752 Год назад

Nice ending!

@hobtink Год назад

There used to be an aviation rubberizing coating that farm machinery dealerships parts departments used to carry to coat the inside of rusted even rusted through metal fuel tanks. It might still be available though perhaps not as readily as more machines switched to plastic tanks to eliminate the rusting fuel tank problems. NAPA auto parts might also have it. Might be quite costly as everything else is now days but when you don’t have a spare tank it might be a way to safely repair one.

@v-g-z3689 Год назад

Fascinating, never had fuel that didn´t burn anymore. Even the totally gummed up two stroke stuff from the early 1980´s out of a rusted 60´s scooter tank still worked perfectly in 2012 in an other engine (it gummed up the carb, piston and crancase though).

@shawnmrfixitlee6478 Год назад

Great score James , Made a good runner out of it .. I have 2 of those insulators sitting on the shelf labed bad.. I am going to try to seal them up some time and test them out ..I know they are cheap but , Hey if they can be fixed cheap why not ! Good vid .. ENJOYED

@markmoran9716 Год назад

Great video! Honda clone very interesting. I would have never thought to check the insulator.

@ericvaughn1126 Год назад

"Stop your typing" re: the sticker was funny and interesting curve ball with the insulator. Makes ya wonder if trying to sand it flat on a stone would have resolved the issue, but easier to swap out with another on hand for sure. Glad it wasn't the HIPA carb too. I've used many of their parts w/o issue as well. 👍

@ebfromwyoming4118 Год назад

Wow great 👌 job sir

@jamest.5001 Год назад

Awesome

@pietropietrowski Год назад

Boa tarde James, muito bom assistir seus vídeos não perco nenhum daí todos bem intuitivos e bem explicados flw abraços camarada...

@rogerrabbit6522 Год назад

You could open a line of sales to all the people who have bought electric cars and decide they want to go further than the local shops.

@charleshare6840 Год назад

I'm not a big fan of that choke set up, with that plate. If you remember I contacted you back last fall about a problem I was having with that set up. Never did get it fully resolved. I have learned alot from watching your videos.

@michaelschumacher3702 Год назад

I've used TSP from the paint store (not the "TSP substitute") in very hot water to clean varnish from gas tanks, and then citric acid to de-rust them (several soaks with boiling water). Evaporust or Metal etch (Phosphoric acid) ups the de-rusting ante/ I've seen other channels use muriatic acid to remove rust, but that's out of my comfort zone. I've mimicked the process (and maybe the materials) that came with a Motorcycle tank sealing kit years ago.

@chrischiampo7647 Год назад

Honeywell Is Made by Generac There Awesome I Got mine Free Had Same Issues I Took an Old Plastic Tank From an Old Coleman Generator and Overhauled The Carb Cost Me 20.00 Total To Get it Running Like a Top 😀❤️😀😊👍🏼

@carrellblack1014 Год назад

We used to test for vacuum leak by spraying starting fluid near the carb while the engine was running and listen for change in rpm

@jcondon1 Год назад

That works well.

@peterouellette3874 Год назад

Honeywell was a brand name I thought, a lot of electrical parts. Nice going

@throwbo Год назад

They license the name out - it's just a Chinese clone gen, same as the Predator and many others. Nothing to do with Honeywell actually.

@zrkn1 Год назад

I would try lapping those insulators to save them. Remember to always lap in a figure 8 motion. ✌

@jeffclark2725 Год назад

Yes Each generator can be easy or curve ball city,Ive picked up several through the years,itsamazing what can be found with them above and behond the normal wear out and plugged up items, Thumbs up

@jcondon1 Год назад

I am always thrown off when I fix the main issue just to find another.

@jeffclark2725 Год назад

@@jcondon1 you probably have machines you have fixed that haven't made the video screen ,

@8zipster8 Год назад

Another great video James!! Thank you! I need to check out the governor on my genset..it (Hz) drops down quite a bit under load as well. Never considered there was a way to adjust the Hz! Thank you! Jim

@throwbo Год назад

You can set the gen for maybe 61.5 Hz under no load but no higher. If it drops excessively under load this may be a sign that the motor is a bit down on horsepower and there may not be anything you can do about it (short of a rebuild) if the motor is running well otherwise. Or the governor spring could be set to the wrong position but usually not.

@mohamedsaied1312 Год назад

Perfect fix as well there is many anti rust or rust removal substances can fix the original tank but requires some time to do a proper etching for that rust.

@worthcounty4317 Год назад

Maybe a short video doing a tank revival?

@jcondon1 Год назад

I use evaporust on tanks that cannot be replaced. But since I had one I did the easy thing. Also Honda clone tanks like this one can be found on eBay cheap.

@P_RO_ Год назад

@@jcondon1 Totally the best way. I've successfully sealed around a dozen motorcycle tanks, where the rider will notice any leakage. But generators will often be left unattended and running greatly increasing the risks of a catastrophe if a tank leaks, so I wouldn't try it on them myself.

@chrisdevitto4340 Год назад

James just get a cheap 12v fuel pump from any auto parts store hook up hoses and add wiring to hook up to battery or jumper box makes a quick easy way to drain tanks. Used this on my boats.

@P_RO_ Год назад

An in-tank car fuel pump which still runs but doesn't have enough pressure fo0r the car will do, and the price is usually free.

@throwbo Год назад

Sometimes it can be something as stupid as an intake gasket. You have to watch those gaskets carefully because sometimes the outer footprint matches but the hole in the middle is the wrong size. Like Bill says if you spray carb cleaner around and the lean condition goes away temporarily, you have found the general area of the vacuum leak.

@johndesaavedra1040 Год назад

Mine has been kept with fuel in it for 34 years. Starts first pull as long as it's stored in a cool place.

@debztully1339 Год назад

Yeah!

@klxboy9994 Год назад

Sure wish you could get your hands on some Sportsman generators. I have 3 of them and Id love to see you take them apart. Great budget Honda clone generators.

@beaviswashere8009 Год назад

I had my Rant all ready to go... then you removed the Sticker! lol Love your videos!

@jcondon1 Год назад

I am surprised nobody commented that I did not change the oil!

@browsedeweb8834 Год назад

Another great video James! I think you forgot the oil change for the video unless I missed it. How did the old oil look after draining...any metal bits?

@johndii2194 Год назад

Recently someone else had problems with the isolator on an engine.

@Bassguitarist1985 Год назад

Shops around town with waste oil furnances LOVE old gasoline! I guve my old fuel to another small engine place where they either dispose of it, or use it during the winter. Never put old fuel from lawn mower etc in your car. Learned that the hard way.

@jcondon1 Год назад

It is a risk. Once put some in my car that ended up having some water in it. Car was not too happy about it.

@Bassguitarist1985 Год назад

@@jcondon1 exactly and with today's direct fuel injection to try and flush out that system is a real pain and very expensive

@jcondon1 Год назад

@@Bassguitarist1985 also do not want to clog up the fuel filter on the car. Not an easy job to fix.

@Bassguitarist1985 Год назад

@@jcondon1 exactly. $$$$

@homieshenna Год назад

I wonder if (it may be too late) to closely look at the insulators to see why the old one doesn't do the job...

@DieterMe 7 месяцев назад

A 5000 Watt load at 120 Volt has 2,88 Ohm (R = U square / P). Please measure your load. You are mostely satisfied if the generator delivers 116 Volts but at 116 Volts you are only drain 4672 Watts. P = U square / R. This generator delivers 122,1 Volts at your 2,88 Ohm full load so the output is 5176 Watts. Turn down the regulator to 120 Volts at medium load and your frequency will go up. You should use a calibrated load to compare numbers. This generator has a strong powerhead. The displacement of the engine is a little bit low. You can increase the output by grinding down the head to increase the torque a little (you need high octane) or bore the cylinder.

@alanbox2162 Год назад

Looking forward to the predator series...

@tomschmidt381 Год назад

I'll have to keep the insulator leak problem in mind. Nice having a parts stash for troubleshooting. Good to know you have had good luck with Hipa carbs, from other posters Chineseium carbs tend to be hit or miss. As a Predator owner it would have been fun to see the two dead ones, since you don't seem to run into them very often. The 9000 Predator is pretty new so I'm surprised you already had one with a bad engine. Knock on wood we bought our 8750 Predator in 2016 and other then testing every few months have not had a power outage since.

@jcondon1 Год назад

I have a video in the works. 3 predators in one video.

@tomschmidt381 Год назад

@@jcondon1 Wow a three-fer can't wait.

@throwbo Год назад

Run any generator, even a brand new one, low on oil and you will kill it. The oil level switch might work or it might not.

@tiredoldmechanic1791 Год назад

That generator was likely stored in a location that experienced wide temperature fluctuations from day to night which caused the volatile components of the gasoline to be vented off. It appeared that the air filter housing was moving in relation to the recoil cover which shouldn't be possible.

@lewiemcneely9143 Год назад

Good old harmonics.

@joesinakandid528 Год назад

When checking the oil (as at the 1:40 time stamp) --- use the factory technique shown on the decal that clearly shows the correct full mark as oil just to the top of the filler plug threads and NOT at some random place on what is mistakenly still sometimes called """the dipstick""".

@seymoarsalvage 5 месяцев назад

Yeah, I think he knows...

@johndesaavedra1040 Год назад

Honda-made. It will be fine. Looks to be a Honda EM5000 series

@harryburford6629 Год назад

james has that fuel got ethonel in it. we dont have it in our fuel over here , old fuel here you just mix with 91 octane and its fine.

@GuysPlayingWithTools Год назад

I don't know if I have seen a back block fail that wasn't obvious but I guess they can.

@CapnBubbaa Год назад

Can you do a video on the tri-fuel carb conversion for this carb in the future

@r8118830 Год назад

Just had another look at this one after you posted the pic of the kids in the school in Guinea, The tank you took off this one might be a good one to do a test run of cleaning tanks using electrolysis. It looks quite badly rusted so it would be difficult to clean up using other methods. Its a sort of standard size and shape so if it does clean then you would not find it too difficult to use on another generator. If it did not clean up then you would not lose much. If it did work it could save you 60 dollars. Its all a learning curve anyway is it not.

@arthurbiringer5676 Год назад

Don’t forget to cover the sticker indicating 8700 watts, the genset is 5,500 watts!

@P_RO_ Год назад

You didn't watch the whole video, did you? Re-check the last minute.

@timd1833 Год назад

LOL! I know it's coming but I still laugh when I hear your dog bark at the end. Great video! Also, how can you tell it's running lean? by the sound?

@jcondon1 Год назад

The surging is a sign that it is lean. Running rich the engine bogs down, black smoke sometimes and usually does not surge.

@timd1833 Год назад

@@jcondon1 Thank you!

@RiverratGoRVing Год назад

As always saved anther unit. Just a question did tank leak, I in the past and have save rusted out quad tanks by using Muratic Acid for pools at 3 oz acid to 3 oz water shake and rotate drain and do again 2 -3 time then 3 oz 30w oil and 3 oz gas doing the same as acid water. Need to wear rubber gloves when using acid. Then fill with gas and let sit for a few days and should not have any rust. Just an idea for you to try. Michael.

@TheDamowalshe Год назад

You mentioned the choke system that uses a vacuum, is this a form of automatic choke ?.

@kayla-se1pn Год назад

Hey would you happen to know why a generator like this would jump time? Fixed the time, about to put it back together but don't know why it do that in the first place.