Interestingly, if you ignore Shadowheart all the way up to the point where you need the artifact to avoid having your brain eaten, she conveniently turns up and you can't avoid having her in your party.
I dont rly like how if Jaheira gets killed during the moonrise fight u cant get minsc, and u also have to toggle on knock out, which I doubt people often do. Seems like a very easy to miss companion
I hear nowadays you can recruit Minthara without being an evil asshole by simply knocking her unconscious instead of killing her, then continuing as normal and doing the thing at Moonrise Towers. (So I’ve heard)
You should be able to get her if you knocked her out during the fight and didn't kill her. And then do a tedious amount of stuff to get her to pop up in act two. Then she realizes the absolute is a lie and joins u. No companion loss required. It just takes literally forever.
@@LukeCanWin I've only tried the first half of this but havent gotten to Act 2 yet on that play. You can Non-Lethal Minthara and Halsin will still think shes dead for certain so long as you dont do any long rests. If you long rest, she'll stand back up and you'll have to knock her back out again or the quest will still be incomplete to kill all 3. But I cannot confirm if she reappears in Act 2.
@@LukeCanWin There are finnicky ways I can confirm, that if you prior to going to Minthara, have Wyll *or* Karlach steal the idol, and then die in the ensuing war between Tieflings and Druids, they can be resurrected and still be part of it all. I have not tried to have them both die, though The important part is to *not* participate in the raid itself. The nonlethal takedown does not work without gimmicky-finnicky shenanigans (which we are all willing to do, cause Minthara is bby (fite me)) Will try out the double death, and see what happens, and come back later :)
@@LukeCanWin yes here is the Minthara Halsin Wyll and Karlach sheep method: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Dz8d5JebXh8.htmlsi=N38T8gjd-Jp9zMZI
Jahira(sp?) - I killed both Isobel and the Nightsong and she is currently in my camp (haven't assaulted towers yet this play through). I gained her trust by freeing gnomes and stopping true soul from killing Isobel. As the Dark Urge I went back and killed Isobel and blamed it on invaders or some such, she believed me. I did the temple of Shar after this and Shadowheart killed Nightsong with no reaction from Jahira back at camp.
