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Baldurs Gate 3 Rogue / Gloomstalker S Tier Build! Stealth Is Absurdely Powerful! 

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@rpjames8
@rpjames8 11 месяцев назад
There's a lot of folk concerned on why didn't I choose gnome for this build, even while the ranger gets longbow profficiency as a base. I am truly sorry I didn't adressed that in the video, here's the reasoning to that: First, I don´t like Gnomes, lol. Larian decided to change the attribute profficiency because folk didn't want for the min-maxing to lock you out of playing your favorite race. If you do like the Gnome, then by all means, go for it. If, on the other hand, you like an Orc, or a Dragonborn it works just fine as well! Sure, some racials are going to play some part of the overall effectiveness, but then again, if you like one race, take it. The skeleton of the build is going to perform amazingly with any race. Second, and probably the least important. I like to choose longbows right from the get go, and I also like to be hidden at all times right from the get go, so start with Rogue, that's the best for me. Still, If you want to start Ranger for the longbow, and THEN switch to rogue, by all means, you can. One is NOT better than the other. Cheers you damn gorgeous and beautiful people!
@SaneNoMore
@SaneNoMore 11 месяцев назад
I don't like shorties in Dnd for purely cosmetic reasons but romancing people as a Dragonborn is kinda strange too lol. (currently playing one).
@NineSeptims
@NineSeptims 11 месяцев назад
Its their body proportions that throw me off.@@SaneNoMore
@Maximum7077
@Maximum7077 11 месяцев назад
​@@NineSeptimsabsolutly
@Maximum7077
@Maximum7077 11 месяцев назад
​@@NineSeptimsdidnt stopped me from going a divination wizard halfling with lucky feat with my first character of cause
@RevenantHero_
@RevenantHero_ 11 месяцев назад
Is wood elf good for this build?
@3ghrjI3Lnkhs
@3ghrjI3Lnkhs 10 месяцев назад
Notes I took -- thanks RPJames! Level 1: Rogue High elf proficiency in long bow (recommended) Starting specs: Str: 8 Dex: 17 Con: 15 Int: 8 Wis: 16 Char: 8 Level 2: you get bonus hidden action Level 3: bonus action, fast hand (two bonus action) Attack twice then go stealth Subclass to be Thief Level 4: multiclass into ranger; Bounty hunter - favored enemy pick Beast tamer - explorer pick Level 5: second ranger Spells: ensnaring strike Spells: hunter's mark Fighting style: archery Leve 6: level 3 ranger Advised spell: speak with animals Subclass: gloom stalker Action: dread ambusher Level 7 / Level 54 gloom stalker Feat: Sharpshooter Itemization Spidersilk Armor Gloves of Thievery Smuggler's ring Amulet of Misty Step (used to reposition) Spring Step Boots (movement speed) Build work: Rogue always hiding Take advantage of last known location mechanic enemies waste action on not attacking Always use misty step - place last known location, then move away Use bonus actions to hit twice per turn Always be in shadows
@RevenantHero_
@RevenantHero_ 10 месяцев назад
what should I do after level 8? Like focus on rogue or keep going ranger.
@3ghrjI3Lnkhs
@3ghrjI3Lnkhs 10 месяцев назад
@@RevenantHero_ I’m not there yet, @rpjames8 what do you recommend??
@andrewbecker1013
@andrewbecker1013 10 месяцев назад
@@RevenantHero_ I’d recommend all ranger after 3 levels in thief rogue.
@majorschmoopy1518
@majorschmoopy1518 9 месяцев назад
Could always multi class into fighter for action surge
@wildfire160
@wildfire160 5 месяцев назад
I feel this is just crying out for a twin hand crossbow build....
@hoodedalpha4880
@hoodedalpha4880 11 месяцев назад
Love this combo, currently building it! a note, the longstrider spell is a ritual spell that doesnt take spell slots to cast and lasts until you long rest allowing you to buff your entire party with huge additional movement speed, its invaluable. the jump spell is the same but only lasts for 10 turns so a good prep for your frontliners to jump straight into the action. Longstrider can freeup that dash/boots allowing an additional bonus action making dual wield hand crossbows amazing if you arent bothered about stealthing too, turn 1 with 5 attacks using sharpshooter, PEWPEWPEWPEWPEW! a mini gattling gun almost XD
@ImaITman
@ImaITman 11 месяцев назад
There's also some Much better item optimizations for this build. I actually think if you're going to run 2h bow might as well run assassin for aclarity and that opening crit. 100% agree that dual hand crossbows with the same setup, same feat selection, and thief subclass because of Larian not using RAW for that 2nd bonus action is SS tier lol
@ThatBigRedBear
@ThatBigRedBear 11 месяцев назад
Damn it. I knew longstrider was an all day ritual but i completely forgot. All this time wasted, lol
@Squeeble00
@Squeeble00 11 месяцев назад
​@ImaITman going dual wield for your weapon style would probably be more valuable than archery if you go hand crossbows, especially since you'd still benefit from it if you wanted to melee occasionally. But yeah everything else can stay the same
@KyleRassweiler
@KyleRassweiler 11 месяцев назад
Did this change? Longstrider is listed as a level 1 spell slot for me.
@hoodedalpha4880
@hoodedalpha4880 11 месяцев назад
@KyleRassweiler nope, I'm still ritual casting it, in the level up screen or spell menu it doesn't say whether spells can be ritually casted, in your hotbar though it should have a small green symbol with 'ritual' next to it. So long as you aren't in combat it won't take up a spell slot
@barrettready1713
@barrettready1713 11 месяцев назад
Ranger Hunter/Rouge Thief is one of my fav multi classes in dnd. I haven't played it since gloomstalker was added, so this was my idea for bg3
@teccam
@teccam 11 месяцев назад
I agree with you that Thief is better than Assassin for this build. Assassin is a one-trick pony for opening combat rounds, but Thief is a lot more well-rounded/versatile.
@YogKaim
@YogKaim 11 месяцев назад
Thief is good multiclass for any class. Thief sorcerer, thief barbarian, fighter, etc.
@williammorris249
@williammorris249 11 месяцев назад
Random, but if I wanted a Fighter/rogue. Would it be optimal to go 5 into fighter(battlemaster) for the extra attack, then multi into rogue for the rest of the levels??
@Cleptomancer
@Cleptomancer 11 месяцев назад
​@@williammorris249Starting Thief gets you the most combat damage and skill choice, but you'll have higher AC & HP as a fighter
@williammorris249
@williammorris249 11 месяцев назад
@@Cleptomancer should I stop at 3 rogue for the subclass, then go straight fighter? Or go 4 rogue for the feat then fighter
@bobmishima3295
@bobmishima3295 11 месяцев назад
@@williammorris249 This is how I'm doing it: 3 into rogue, 5 into ranger, 1 rogue (ASI), 3 fighter. So you would get 4 rogue (thief), 5 ranger (gloomstalker), 3 fighter (battlemaster/champion), 1 ASI, sharpshooter feat).
@iamnotjcook
@iamnotjcook 11 месяцев назад
When I saw the thief ability, I knew it would be one of the most broken multiclass synergies in the game
@fateric007
@fateric007 11 месяцев назад
The lightning charge items are also really good. With the bow and boots you'll always have charges to dish out extra damage with.
@rpjames8
@rpjames8 11 месяцев назад
That is true indeed agent fateric!
@wickedtruth6849
@wickedtruth6849 11 месяцев назад
@@schmiggidy honestly youre best bet is 4rogue/8ranger because you need level 5 ranger for a 2nd attack. and you get feats/ability points every 4 levels of a class. so at level 4 rogue and level 8 ranger you want to up dex to 20.
@elocress7498
@elocress7498 11 месяцев назад
@@schmiggidy going for fighter 2 or more is very good aswell so you get action surge and a second fighting style i would go ranger 5/rogue 5/fighter 2
@CloudBreaker30
@CloudBreaker30 11 месяцев назад
​@@wickedtruth6849You can get to 20 Dex with no feats if you point buy to 17. Or 1 feat if you don't want to wear a certain piece of gear. You can get +1 from the hag and there's a chest armor sold by someone near the Githyanki Creche that's gives you permanent Cat's Grace and +2 Dex.
@Xynth25
@Xynth25 11 месяцев назад
​@@wickedtruth6849It's honestly super easy to get 20 Dex by level 5, the 4th level of Rogue really isn't necessary. Unless you're going to Rogue 5, 4 doesn't really get you anything, and the 3rd level Ranger spells can be very useful.
@FriendofFantasy
@FriendofFantasy 9 месяцев назад
I will say, with the right things at the start, chosing a Wood Elf Ranger at level 1 can net you proficiency in 9 skills. Wood Elf gives proficiency in Perception and Stealth. Outlander gives proficiency in Athletics and Survival. Bounty Hunter and Urban Tracker give proficiency in Investgation and Sleight of Hand. Then Ranger gives you Animal Handling, Insight and Nature. Then Rogue at level 2 will grant you an additional skill from the Rogue list, making you an amazing skill monkey with 10 skills.
@pandhuvandhita6192
@pandhuvandhita6192 11 месяцев назад
Wearing the Dark Urge's cape (that we got pretty early in the game on act 1) is also very good for this build because it automatically turns you invisible after killing an enemy
@gladiusgamer9324
@gladiusgamer9324 11 месяцев назад
Oh? Where do we find this cape?
@UnburntDragon
@UnburntDragon 11 месяцев назад
@@gladiusgamer9324it happens when you rest, but only if you are a Dark Urge character. Someone approaches you during a long rest
@pandhuvandhita6192
@pandhuvandhita6192 11 месяцев назад
​@@gladiusgamer9324 To avoid spoiler, let's just say it will be given to you eventually after dark urge's first 'story' kill. You don't need to do anything, except maybe help Alfira finish her song in act 1.
@markymark7197
@markymark7197 11 месяцев назад
@@pandhuvandhita6192ah yes totally avoiding spoiler
@F_Yale
@F_Yale 11 месяцев назад
That's fuckin' overpowered, dude.
@darkshamrock5763
@darkshamrock5763 11 месяцев назад
Great vid. I’m at level 9 act 2 right now and thinking about respecing astarion into this. Or maybe wait for my second play through.
@fateric007
@fateric007 11 месяцев назад
Also consider using the illithid power that gives you auto critical. Critical hits also double sneak dice.
@peytondonovan9074
@peytondonovan9074 11 месяцев назад
It's only once per long rest
@dychostarr
@dychostarr 10 месяцев назад
@@peytondonovan9074 Still it doesn't take away from the build and adds to it. Save the auto critical ability for whenever your using it against a boss or major enemy (will note to always read the prompt as it'll ask EVEN if you rolled a natural 20 on a enemy which wastes the ability)
@dominikgose2609
@dominikgose2609 5 месяцев назад
​@@dychostarruse brand of the weak on em before you guarantee sneak crit. Watch em say goodbye in 1 hit
@RM_3D
@RM_3D 10 месяцев назад
Best bow is the titan string bow and if you drink a str elixir you get an additional +5 to dmg so if you have 20 dex you'll be getting +10 dmg and then another +10 from sharp shooter, you can buy elixirs in the underdark, use the Cat's grace armor from the egg lady in mountain pass to gain advantage on all dex checks (sleight of hand, stealth, disarm etc)
@drewesrock9414
@drewesrock9414 10 месяцев назад
You can also use dual welding hand crossbows to use both your bonus actions to attack. Or use 1 for sneak attack and one for another shot. Basically it guarantees at least 3 attacks per turn but could be 4-5 if you also use dread ambusher on the first round
@Jona07111
@Jona07111 10 месяцев назад
There are two issues with using dual hand xbow on a gloomstalker build. The first is that hand xbows have less range than longbows, making it slightly harder to utilize the burst strat that you would use Gloomstalker for because you'd have to get closer to get advantage/sneak attack The second issue is action economy. Rangers use their bonus action for con spells like hunters mark and ensnaring strike. Using hand xbows means your offhand bonus action attack competes with you doing things like moving hunter's mark or casting a new spell. Considering how likely it is in most battles for you to kill the enemy you've marked in one round, bonus actions on subsequent rounds are usually used to move hunter's mark to the next target, or to use cunning action to hide/reposition for more sneak attack kills. Using a longbow frees up your bonus actions while maximizing damage on your main attacks. If you prefer the dual xbow route, I'd recommend fighter/rogue or bard/rogue (sword college) instead.
@drewesrock9414
@drewesrock9414 10 месяцев назад
@@Jona07111 sharpshooter let's you shoot from long range without disadvantage and you tend to attack so much that you don't need hunters mark
@drewesrock9414
@drewesrock9414 10 месяцев назад
@@Jona07111 it works well. I'm playing the build rn
@Jona07111
@Jona07111 10 месяцев назад
@@drewesrock9414 No, that's only sharpshooter in 5e. Sharpshooter in BG3 negates disadvantage from low ground, but you still get disadvantage from shooting outside of normal range. I'm not saying dual crossbows won't work, but I'm saying it isn't optimal to pick gloomstalker if you want to go with a machine gun build. Without using Ranger spellcasting or playing to the synergy of sneak attack + dread ambusher, and instead using your bonus actions to just shoot, you'd be going at least 3 levels into ranger to get a worse fighter whose main upside is one extra attack on the first turn of combat.
@dominikgose2609
@dominikgose2609 5 месяцев назад
@@Jona07111 i just use risky ring and hide with one of the bonus actions
@heathengypsy
@heathengypsy 10 месяцев назад
Githyanki would be a good race for this build as they get misty step at level five, if you combine that with the misty step amulet you at least get to cast it twice each fight. Also the club of hill giant strength would be good as you’ll be able to jump further.
@filthyrando3632
@filthyrando3632 10 месяцев назад
I went Thief 5 Fighter (Battle Master)5 and Ranger 2 but this looks fun too! Cool build.
@braedenmcnany2861
@braedenmcnany2861 11 месяцев назад
I personally prefer the hand crossbows and any items that give me added damage to my attacks. Gloves of archery with hand crossbows basically gives me 4 extra damage guaranteed plus the item that adds 2 poison damage to weapon attacks thats 4 more guaranteed damage. So when i stealth shoot something with sharpshooter im pretty much guaranteed around 50 damage before ive even taken any turn. Thats enough to one shot quitw a few enemies
@weslawrence888
@weslawrence888 11 месяцев назад
Agreed. This is what I'm doing. Bonus actions are better used to do d6+20 than moving hunter's mark around or whatever non-damage thing you are doing.
@dominikgose2609
@dominikgose2609 5 месяцев назад
Ensnaring strike on a boss 1st turn to try to get advantage on all attacks could be good as well, but with a 16 wis your saves only going to be so mutch
@Arrwmkr
@Arrwmkr 11 месяцев назад
"sleet" of hand, good one!
@BouncyCritsIsMeta
@BouncyCritsIsMeta 11 месяцев назад
Came for the build, stayed for the 🎶Down, Down, Down by the River🎶
@janbertguerrero6988
@janbertguerrero6988 11 месяцев назад
this is definitely a build ill do!
@barknmad2861
@barknmad2861 11 месяцев назад
This is going to be the one for me good Sir
@rpjames8
@rpjames8 11 месяцев назад
Have at it Sir!
@blueoutrider
@blueoutrider 11 месяцев назад
I feel like a fun challenge would be using the Darkstalker Mantle + Assassin. Pretty much attempt to kill an enemy off as quickly as possible then reposition for the next enemy.
@Squeeble00
@Squeeble00 11 месяцев назад
Assassin's features only work on suprised enemies, i don't believe just going invisible counts for it.
@JondarKorric
@JondarKorric 10 месяцев назад
@@Squeeble00 if you attack from stealth to initiate combat, they count as surprised and Ambusher applies to ALL attacks made during that turn. against most enemies, Assassin will delete them, then become invisible because of the cloak. you can clear out the entire goblin camp because you keep 1 shotting and becoming invisible.
@Choklar_
@Choklar_ 11 месяцев назад
Going to change up Astarion to this. Looks fun!
@tovarvonbrandt7157
@tovarvonbrandt7157 11 месяцев назад
Get one level of warlock great old one. Mortal Reminder + Assassinate: Ambush is crazy strong. If you are playing as the dark urge and get the invisibility cloak things get really silly.
@BanditTech
@BanditTech 11 месяцев назад
I flipped the first class to Ranger so that you can get medium armour proficiency, then I used Exotic Materials armour to have him sitting at a hefty 22 AC once he is fully geared around level 10. 5 gloom/5 assassin/2 fighter. >>>> You destroy the priority targets before the fight even begins. The crucial feat is sharpshooter.
@coyoboyo
@coyoboyo 8 месяцев назад
Yep. Table Top and BG3 this is my build and I can always inspire surprise, push at least 3 crit attacks and then action surge for 3 more. My DM running the Strahd module gave up because I killed that vamp in a single round. He started putting extra spell casters/ bad guys in after that just to keep me busy. I don't break Mages - I kill them outright. No Mercy. Cobra Kai!
@dominikgose2609
@dominikgose2609 5 месяцев назад
Dont you get medium armor prof just by dipping into ranger?
@BanditTech
@BanditTech 5 месяцев назад
@@dominikgose2609 I was under the impression you don't, pretty sure I had to respect to get it
@dominikgose2609
@dominikgose2609 5 месяцев назад
@@BanditTech u do, i was just messing with it earlier and can confirm
@Nzchimeran
@Nzchimeran 11 месяцев назад
Nice, I been using assassin but keen to just cheese the entire game first run through ;) This looks sweet for pure bow sniper Fear short bow is king
@figuures6098
@figuures6098 11 месяцев назад
My Astarion is currently sharpshooter, but with dual wield crossbows. the -5 to attack roll doesn't apply to offhand crossbows, so you get normal accuracy with the +10 dmg, with 2 bonus actions for offhand shots
@Swarrs
@Swarrs 10 месяцев назад
Just got thief with 2 one handed crossbows and get sharpshooter feat. The 2 off-hand attacks do get the -5 penalty to attack roll but still get the +10 to damage and can proc sneak attack if needed.
@coyoboyo
@coyoboyo 8 месяцев назад
Gloomstalker/Rogue or Rogue/Gloomstalker it doesn't matter. This death cocktail is known by few but feared by DMs like myself. Nice video, I subbed just based on your focus on this weird class combo that lead to insta-death.
@soulemful
@soulemful 11 месяцев назад
I used this for a mele build. It isn't as strong as this but i do like having more attacking actions during combat. I will try this out in my play through for sure tho.
@fitz394
@fitz394 11 месяцев назад
Assassin is so good. Any fight I start has 2 dead people or a dead/almost dead boss. Its been CLUTCH
@moku1648
@moku1648 11 месяцев назад
I'm running a party with 3 Githyanki Necromancers. So many summons. Last one is an Oathbreaker Paladin for +CHA Modifier to damage aura to undead. Gith get Medium Armor Proficiency, so they can all wear pretty much anything. (Third Gith is a Hireling from Withers.)
@bforce3824
@bforce3824 11 месяцев назад
I was waiting for a Skyrim stealth archer reference haha
@dogs-game-too
@dogs-game-too 11 месяцев назад
Not sure if they are always there, but I found a V rare pair of gloves at a vendor early in act 2 that gives me 18 Dexterity and +1 attack, so I was able to respec my guy to only have 8 Dexterity at level 1, pump up the other stats, then put the gloves on for 18 Dex. My ranger/rogue now has over 10 more health than my tank paladin at level 6 lmao
@rpjames8
@rpjames8 11 месяцев назад
They are always there, and those gloves are game changer for many classes!
@dogs-game-too
@dogs-game-too 11 месяцев назад
@rpjames8 awesome!! I'm hoping to find something similar for strength or charisma for my paladin! (No spoilers on if they exist please lol)
@BryanMusic02
@BryanMusic02 11 месяцев назад
@dogs-game-too do you remember where in act 2 you found these gloves? I found the proficiency DEX gloves but not these in Act 2, but I am only just finishing up the Githyanki base in act 2
@selendile030
@selendile030 11 месяцев назад
They’re at the gith crèche. Just find the vendor there; has a ton of really good equipment.
@dogs-game-too
@dogs-game-too 11 месяцев назад
@@BryanMusic02 They were at a vendor that was through the secret entrance under the monastery. I assume there's a way to access them from the other side but I haven't played much of Act 2 yet
@darkjackl999
@darkjackl999 11 месяцев назад
Thief is absolutely busted, unlike normal 5e it gives a flat bonus action So its nutty with barb (i went into it after barb 6 so i could bonus action dash for the stallion totem barb temp hp) can get up to 4 attacks with Heavy Weapon Master in 1 round
@toddparker514
@toddparker514 4 месяца назад
I actually like to do 4 thief 4 gloom stalked and 4 warlock and I do dualweild . If you use the right gear you end up with 25 plus AC crit on either 17 or 15 and with the cloak of displacement and baldurian helmet you don't get hit due to all attacks are at disadvantage and you can't be crit . Plus two good swords stupid damage and either can stealth or just don't stealth . Build is epic especially with the devil sight you just fight in the darkness with bonuses with the right gear .
@ChefRyoshu
@ChefRyoshu 11 месяцев назад
one thing that makes this better is to choose dark urge origin as you get a cape that gives invisibility on kill.
@chadallen7474
@chadallen7474 5 месяцев назад
Awesome build! Is there any astarian builds that do not rely on stealth? Can’t seem to find one. Appreciate the great build and info!!
@emich34
@emich34 11 месяцев назад
would reccomend going 5 into gloomstalker first then speccing into rogue so you get the feat at lvl4 and extra attack at lvl 5
@IkariMadness
@IkariMadness 11 месяцев назад
Its like every single time that I ever played Skyrim. Stealthy Rogue.
@rpjames8
@rpjames8 11 месяцев назад
One has to always go back to the happy place.
@adamg5193
@adamg5193 10 месяцев назад
Nice to see a fellow Controller Chad
@Peace_Dog
@Peace_Dog 11 месяцев назад
Love your videos and the Gloom Stalker. BTW, I use Urban Tracker for SoH to gain another prof. I'm missing out on the reduced dmg types but for some builds it really helps. Using a wood elf and and that trick I can get 11 profs in a rog/ranger multiclass. I also tend to take expertise in Perception to find traps etc instead of SoH at lvl 1 of Rogue. BTW I noticed some interesting things about multiclassing. If you take Ranger at lvl 2 after taking rogue, you do not get any additional weapon profs, but when you do the same with war domain cleric, you get all armors/shields and all martial weapons. Weird but good to know. I'm rolling a cleric/rog multiclass for an all dark urge/evil mulitplayer playthrough. War domain + trickster rogue is my plan.
@rpjames8
@rpjames8 11 месяцев назад
Listen to ma' boi' Dog's advice here. He knows rhings.
@ngtotd2462
@ngtotd2462 11 месяцев назад
The reason for the weapon and armor proficiencies is that they are subclass features which bypass the D&D multiclassing proficiencies table that lists what you get from the core class.
@WrathGhost
@WrathGhost 11 месяцев назад
Yeah expertise in SoH/perception is better than stealth and at lv5 ranger you gets pass without a trace spell for +10 stealth. Also about clerics you get the proficiencies from the sub class/domain . And last thing there is great chest that you can buy/steal before gith camp she is not far from way point, gives +2 dex and adventage on dex skills but this one is good just for sneaking.
@AmbivalentActuality
@AmbivalentActuality 11 месяцев назад
@@WrathGhost What's the chest piece called?
@shaunperron7080
@shaunperron7080 11 месяцев назад
​@@WrathGhostI am also very interested in what this chest piece is called and where exactly to find it. Lol
@tsurumakikokoro4945
@tsurumakikokoro4945 11 месяцев назад
Great video.BTW could u tell me where to find that cloak,it look very cool
@brunoethier896
@brunoethier896 11 месяцев назад
I'd be curious to compare this with the Gloomstalker/ArcaneTrickster combo ;-)
@BG-jv3fn
@BG-jv3fn 11 месяцев назад
Is this tactician? I have found it a lot harder to stay stealth in boss encounters. Great video!
@MoraleHazard
@MoraleHazard 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for the video. What is the last known location mechanic?
@ForceM1782
@ForceM1782 11 месяцев назад
So i have some questions on this build: Is it better to start rogue (think you get more proficiencies, or Ranger (medium armor and more hp) i doubt you’ll need medium Armor or HP ever with this, but yeah… Doesn’t ranger also get Longbows from start, in case you don’t play elf? Then, if you wanted to go assassin instead of thief, Half-Orc would be best, right? And finally, is there any way (other than 2 levels of WL) to get devil’s sight or a similar way to abuse the darnkess spell for stealth and advantage purposes with this. Because i will likely build Astarion like you suggest here, and then have my main be a Paladin/WL that abuses Darkness (in case Astarion doesn’t kill everything before combat really starts).
@tonypritchard9838
@tonypritchard9838 11 месяцев назад
dual handcrossbows eat longbows for breakfast tho...especially if you do like I did and wear equipment that adds 2 damage per attack b/c it stacks more times with dual crossbows than a single longbow attack. I wear gloves that add 2 dmg and a ring that adds 2 acid damage for a total of +8 attack per first shot. That's about 50 damage just to start the battle. And those are just Act 1 items.
@AEtherimp
@AEtherimp 11 месяцев назад
I start Ranger, go to Level 5 for Extra attack, then Rogue Assassin 3. Level 8 you have 3 Attacks (Dread Ambusher + 1 Sneak Attack + Normal Attack) + Sharp Shooter damage + Hunters Mark damage. Also make sure you're dipping your weapon in Poison(s) prior to combat.
@PROTOTYPE0
@PROTOTYPE0 11 месяцев назад
Is there a renewable poison source in the game like the poison equivalent of the candle item? Something I can carry in my bag and pull out before a fight
@UnburntDragon
@UnburntDragon 11 месяцев назад
@@PROTOTYPE0 just commenting to hear an answer. I’d like to know this
@Fr0zenP3nguin
@Fr0zenP3nguin 11 месяцев назад
​@@PROTOTYPE0I'm assuming you can make poison via alchemy
@AEtherimp
@AEtherimp 11 месяцев назад
@@PROTOTYPE0 There's a ton of Poison which drops throughout the game and you can use Alchemy to create poison, and you can purchase poisons from Vendors.
@cuongdo1994
@cuongdo1994 11 месяцев назад
Doesnt hunter mark alert target?
@kujon1968
@kujon1968 10 месяцев назад
I feel like Githyanki allows you to dump CHA as you can choose to gain proficiency in all Charisma skills each long rest.
@stoiccrane4259
@stoiccrane4259 Месяц назад
Missed out on something critical OP. Missed the Club of Hill Giant Strength in the Mage Tower in the Underdark and the Titanstring Bow from the Zhenterim Hideout. CoHGS in the main or off-hand sets the strength modifier of the wielding character to 19 regardless of whether actively wielding bow or not and Titanstring Bow deals damage by adding the strength modifier. Could've basically made your Gloomstalker into an OTK sniper from act one.
@Neverwas_one
@Neverwas_one 11 месяцев назад
I already been doing this!
@rpjames8
@rpjames8 11 месяцев назад
Great minds think alike!
@csguak
@csguak 8 месяцев назад
Hunter's mark is hilarious, as song as you kill the target with it, game thinks you are always concentrating, meaning that any item that wants to you be "concentrating" something will always be turned on.
@kzxkzxkzx
@kzxkzxkzx 11 месяцев назад
Assassin = burst damage round one Thief = consistency/versatility
@sixgunsuperman
@sixgunsuperman 11 месяцев назад
I feel like gloomstalker already has a great toolkit for round 1 damage. the extra bonus action the thief gets is just abusable in so many great ways though.
@Rathiel84
@Rathiel84 11 месяцев назад
Why do you recommend Longbow in general? Crossbows do more damage and two hand crosbows also do an amazing job with Sharpshooter. Whats the benefit?
@YogKaim
@YogKaim 11 месяцев назад
In Tactician Mode, I prefer 3 Thief, 5 Hunter/Collosus Slayer for the consistent damage vs opening damage.
@ShadowOfHistory-wn1xh
@ShadowOfHistory-wn1xh 11 месяцев назад
3 Thief, 6 monk will do wonders for you. I soloed... Actually, will avoid spoilers here, but I can one-man act III intro boss with about 20 goons. Good use of darkness with rings that prevents you going invisible is a boon.
@shenotski
@shenotski 11 месяцев назад
@@ShadowOfHistory-wn1xhwhich specializations on monk?
@abcd31949
@abcd31949 11 месяцев назад
Whats ur suggestion for late game(8-12) build for this?
@billyharkey2862
@billyharkey2862 11 месяцев назад
Just followed this guide - the first few levels are a little rough - specifically that the character doesn't really fill any real roles in the party, or it feels that way. I will say, from a previous playthrough that it's definitely going to go off like a sparkler at level 7 though. I see that you have a LOT of these videos - if you don't mind, can I make a small suggestion? A condensed "select these traits, skills, feats, etc, through the leveling up would be incredibly useful. The way it is now, we need to watch the entirety of the video over and over to get back to a specific level's nuance, instead of something like a flow chart picture or something equally capturable so we can screenshot and reference it. Please don't take this as criticism! You're a silly, funny man and your commentary cracks me up but it's an 18-minute video and I'm making that flow chart myself and will likely post it as text below, just to make it easier on my time and bandwidth. Thanks as always for the amazing builds and the hilarious jokes!
@rpjames8
@rpjames8 11 месяцев назад
It is criticisim, and its a very, very valid one. I really appreciate it billy! Been doing this for quite a while, I have improved quite a lot, and its thanks to comments like this, that I learn new things that people like to see, and what they dont
@aaroncaito3280
@aaroncaito3280 10 месяцев назад
​@@rpjames8 having quick breakdowns, summaries, and visual aides goes a long way. So do timestamps!
@cadleo
@cadleo 10 месяцев назад
If you plan to be the face of the party , Id also suggest the cantrip Friends.
@itsjustarnold
@itsjustarnold 9 месяцев назад
You could use the gloves that gives +2 to range attacks
@Zii_Vii
@Zii_Vii 11 месяцев назад
I was thief for quite a while but I switch to assassin to try out and I like it a lot more. You just.... Kill everything rofl. It's hilarious. I use 2 *hand crossbows* and stack items and buffs that affect each weapon hit. Like the ring that gives 2 acid DMG per hit and weapon oils and all kinds of stuff. You end up doing like 100 something burst dmg on the first turn and can easily kill 1-3 enemies on the first turn. The thief bonus action was very attractive at first for me, but the assassin getting 4 critical attacks with 95%+ accuracy on the first turn is just too damn sexy. I'm only level 8 right now too lol. 5 ranger(extra attack) and 3 assassin. Dual wielding 2 shortswords and 2 hand crossbows. With the thief I was using the spark boots that give u lightning charges when u dash for the same effect. Permeant lightning charges is very strong! Anyway, I love your build and the vid! But seriously, try dual hand crossbows. Oh God it's so sick my friend!
@rpjames8
@rpjames8 11 месяцев назад
I have been planning that build myself and it is indeed spicy!
@ZielonyBob
@ZielonyBob 11 месяцев назад
u started as rogue or ranger ? where get hand crossbow ? can u tell more about this build please
@istanleyoao3228
@istanleyoao3228 5 месяцев назад
There's a hide armor sold by the goblin trader in the goblin camp that has +1 stealth modifier and +1 initiative plus increased AC, read some of the stats wrong.
@joeeibert3072
@joeeibert3072 11 месяцев назад
Thanks for the video. BTW, regarding the radial interface that you are showing, will that be the same UI for PS5? I would think shortcuts via keyboard would be easier and faster, but my PC cannot support BG3.
@rpjames8
@rpjames8 11 месяцев назад
Yup, used both Console and PC UI!
@tantalus_complex
@tantalus_complex 11 месяцев назад
A keyboard & mouse can be used with a PS5, so we may be able to get the best of both worlds too.
@lokilucario
@lokilucario 4 месяца назад
There is no world where I'm gonna walk around an entire game stealthing lol i do not have the patience for that
@chadshangraw8121
@chadshangraw8121 11 месяцев назад
I love this build, Just curious what is your opinion on taking 4 lvls in Rogue to get the sharpshooter feat before going for gloom Stalker?
@rpjames8
@rpjames8 11 месяцев назад
That's a great idea!
@josemesa2934
@josemesa2934 5 месяцев назад
SPICY💪
@kurtbenesch9372
@kurtbenesch9372 11 месяцев назад
nice Video. What is the mod for your UI -? it looks amazing
@Chonus
@Chonus 11 месяцев назад
Pretty sure that’s just the basic controller ui
@reallifesupermann
@reallifesupermann 11 месяцев назад
What is the fest supposed to be? I might of missed it but he went straight from picking thief, to choosing ranger and go into that.
@mister-x2
@mister-x2 11 месяцев назад
I seem to have run into a bug that made me lose Longbow proficiency. Corrected it by starting as ranger, leveling 3 times and then changing to rogue to level 3 times and then back to ranger again.
@tobygrice749
@tobygrice749 10 месяцев назад
What would u suggest going into after this maybe 2 points of fighter for an extra attack and the rest into rogue?
@Altogolik
@Altogolik 11 месяцев назад
I'm a thief archer. I have a cool stealth, I attack enemies, they do not see me and automatically restore their health to maximum. It's disgusting.
@jamesanddanielthiel
@jamesanddanielthiel 7 месяцев назад
I think this is the best multiclass build in the game, bar none.
@Heartracer
@Heartracer 11 месяцев назад
Started with Ranger for medium armor and higher health
@lifes2short4bs73
@lifes2short4bs73 11 месяцев назад
I hadn't thought to try thief instead of Assassin. I went with Woodelf for the extra movement. How many levels of Thief vs Gloomstalker are you planning? I'm initially thinking to do 7 Ass/5 Gloom. That gives me extra attack, Uncanny Dodge, Evasion, another Expertise, and 3d6 Sneak attack... Do you think going heavier into Gloomstalker will be better?
@rpjames8
@rpjames8 11 месяцев назад
Hell, everything after that is amazing! I think that I will try different options on the go and see what performs better, but you got something goin´ on there!
@shaunperron7080
@shaunperron7080 11 месяцев назад
Going heavier into gs Ranger, you'd be trading a d6 of sneak attack, 2 expertise skills, and evasion for 2 more hp, an additional choice of both favored enemy and natural explorer, and most importantly, proficiency in both wisdom and intelligence saves, so it depends on which of those sounds more appealing to you. Personally, I'm going ranger 5/rogue 3/fighter 4, for action surge and an additional feat choice. I find the ability to open up with a huge nova, even if slightly nerfed from regular 5e, and eliminate the biggest threats more attractive than what I lose in ranger/rogue levels. Most functional builds are going to perform similarly enough that it comes down to preference.
@jakematterson8652
@jakematterson8652 11 месяцев назад
@@shaunperron7080 I'm guessing that would be. 5 for gloom, 3 for assassin, and 4 for fighter?
@shaunperron7080
@shaunperron7080 11 месяцев назад
@jakematterson8652 For the opening nova, yeah. The extra bonus action does have its appeal, too, though. But surprise is much easier to come by in bg3, and alacrity giving your action back makes it much better for initiating a fight with an attack. It almost makes up for the nerf to dread ambush. And with all those crits, taking out key targets before they get any action at all is pretty powerful. For fighter, I had originally planned for battle master for obvious reasons, however, since everything is its own separate action, it becomes difficult or even impossible to effectively stack everything you want to into one single attack, that being dread ambush, sneak attack and a maneuver die. Then I found out there are several pieces of gear that give stacking improvements to critical range, as well as the trait from champion itself, if there are enough pieces that a ranger can wear, I may do champion when the time comes.
@DanielWijk
@DanielWijk 11 месяцев назад
Well, after 5 in Ranger and 3 in Thief I put levels in Fighter. Action surge just pushes it even higher. I do wonder what to do with my last two levels thou...
@tallytrev1496
@tallytrev1496 11 месяцев назад
If you ask me, start with 5 levels in Gloomstalker. Problem with this guide is #1 you’re not getting your ASI until like level 7, and #2 you’re not getting extra attack until like level 8. You’re better off just going first 5 levels into Gloomstalker, then multiclassing into Thief/Assassin.
@rpjames8
@rpjames8 11 месяцев назад
It's personal preference. Gloomstalker doesn't allow you to be 100% hidden all the time like rogue does. What can I say, I'm a snake fan!
@kunimitsune177
@kunimitsune177 11 месяцев назад
ASI is mad over rated. You can wait a few levels, no big deal.
@tallytrev1496
@tallytrev1496 11 месяцев назад
@@kunimitsune177 sorry dude that’s way untrue, in lower levels getting an extra plus one modifier on your main stat is a big deal. A big big deal.
@Ebola419
@Ebola419 11 месяцев назад
If you go hand crossbows you can technically have 3 attacks at level 3 due to thief bonus actions
@tommiejohansson962
@tommiejohansson962 11 месяцев назад
Shouldnt you always go rouge 1 first for extra skill prof? If you multiclass into rogue later you dont get 2
@BosskV2
@BosskV2 5 месяцев назад
Rogue (5) - Extra Attack Thief (3) - Bonus Action Fighter (2) - Action Surge Thats three attacks in the first turn. Add one more level to thief to get an extra FEAT. One more level to fighter to get subclass champion & improved critical hit. However attacks per turn are mostly irrelevant. Advantage, pace without trace and greater invisibility will mean you barely ever enter turn based mode.
@mekseg
@mekseg 11 месяцев назад
Thank you for your video. Very helpful. I would limit the usage of "I can't stress enough" filler phrase :) I think you used it like 20 times in this video :P
@rpjames8
@rpjames8 11 месяцев назад
Yeah, I did abused that filler a little bit. Edited while on work, so I couldn't really get rid of it, but you're totally right!
@tripwire1346
@tripwire1346 8 месяцев назад
what about the rest of the levels? did i miss it or did you not go to level 12 in your guide? ty!
@williammorris249
@williammorris249 11 месяцев назад
Just looking for some build help here, longtime 2nd and 3-3.5 vet here, I want to do a fighter(battlemaster)/Rogue(Assassin) multi build. Would it be optimal to get 5 levels first in fighter, for the extra attack, then multi into rogue with the assassin route? I am really just wanting really strong opening damage, while being able to finish
@rpjames8
@rpjames8 11 месяцев назад
If you want amazing opener, then yeah, youre in the right direction. Fighter with Assassin is a great combo for that!
@ProperIndependent
@ProperIndependent 10 месяцев назад
Hey man would you be able to give me a breakdown for what you would consider the best total level distribution would be up to level 12? The video only shows level seven?
@redrh1
@redrh1 11 месяцев назад
How would you continue to level to 12? 3 rogue 9 ranger? or would you go back to rogue after getting extra attack with ranger?
@CyberBeep_kenshi
@CyberBeep_kenshi 8 месяцев назад
So here is a thought, inserting a bard sword in this. Coming from a shapeshifter idea. so i.e. gloom 5 / thief 3 / bard 4. So adds disguise self at lvl 1 if you start with bard. and it also adds loads of utility. so bard 4 for that 1 extra spell slot Planning this for my first darkurge, no spoilers plz ;-) Any suggestions if this is feasable or useful? cheers.
@xcenic
@xcenic 10 месяцев назад
I use the dark urge cape and always being invicible after killing an enemy and trust me im always killing enemies. using dual crossbow for nuclea bombing. Im doing like 60-80 damage at lvl 5 per turn. But im full ranger no MC.
@drew3ism
@drew3ism 10 месяцев назад
Could this work with dual wield Melee as well if you took something else other than archery and sharpshooter?
@DocKotoga
@DocKotoga 11 месяцев назад
*NEVER* say "You are never ever miss a skill check!" I've just rolled 2 x 1 on my social warlock with +10 and advantage. I rolled this on a really important check in a story dialogue with 0 inspiration points left and a long time not saving the game ...
@rpjames8
@rpjames8 11 месяцев назад
That's some bad luck right there mate!
@gladiusgamer9324
@gladiusgamer9324 11 месяцев назад
There are gloves of archery, I got from somewhere, that adds +2 to attack and damage.
@johnwallace5284
@johnwallace5284 11 месяцев назад
But you are missing out from the extra attack from level 5 ranger? you will get it 3 levels late?
@syneody6234
@syneody6234 11 месяцев назад
I was wondering if you take 5 lvl in ranger to get extra attack if you could sneak attack and then do a normal attack or does sneak attack use and action and cancel the extra attack?
@rpjames8
@rpjames8 11 месяцев назад
Nope, you can!
@aaronasher6660
@aaronasher6660 11 месяцев назад
Darkvison to hit penalties were removed. Starting with Ranger gives longbow so you can take another race like Gith
@daethe
@daethe 11 месяцев назад
I'd either take orc for an additional crit damage die, or Wood Half Elf, for the additional movement distance and you get a stealth proficiency bonus
@tantalus_complex
@tantalus_complex 11 месяцев назад
​@@daethe Don't forget that Gith get three of the most useful spells in the BG3: Mage Hand, Jump, and Misty Step. Tons of in-combat and out-of-combat mobility and utility, without even necessarily needing to expand a spell slot.
@daethe
@daethe 11 месяцев назад
@@tantalus_complex all the Githyanki skills are long rest recharge. May not use a spell slot, but not massively useful unless you're going to Long Rest before every encounter.
@tantalus_complex
@tantalus_complex 11 месяцев назад
@@daethe If you do have spell slots, you should be able to use them again. By character level 5, I'd expect to have that option. Not to mention the all-day feature which grants proficiency in all skills of a chosen ability. Flesh out your skill gaps or hold onto it for situational needs. It's amazing. Gith is one of the strongest racial options in the game. But, of course, there are lots of great options.
@Nezxmi
@Nezxmi 11 месяцев назад
@@tantalus_complex They’re separate from the spell versions, you don’t get to use spell slots to use them again.
@peacemd59
@peacemd59 10 месяцев назад
what level selections are you making after level 7?
@jayviktor6130
@jayviktor6130 7 месяцев назад
Would a duel hand crossbow wielding Drow mess up the build or diminish damage?
@Zasurein
@Zasurein 10 месяцев назад
After you get Thief 3 and Gloom Stalker 5, what do you suggest doing with the remaining four levels for multiclassing? I can't decide.
@csguak
@csguak 8 месяцев назад
Fighter 4 -> Battlemaster
@TheWuulf68
@TheWuulf68 11 месяцев назад
RPjames8 Question..... Can you expand on whats best levels to take after 7 please? Thanks love the guide and wile just lvl 4 its playing nicely. Thx.
@rpjames8
@rpjames8 11 месяцев назад
1 more level as rogue for feat, the rest on stalker!
@krthikr8
@krthikr8 11 месяцев назад
@@rpjames8 What feat would you recommend?. Nice guide btw.
@caseyrich3871
@caseyrich3871 11 месяцев назад
For items I actually swap the boots for the boots of speed and swap the gloves to gloves of archery ! Those mixed with these items he has listed work bloody great for me in this build
@TheDude4515
@TheDude4515 11 месяцев назад
Use Glove of archery, and just put on Gloves of Thievery whenever you come across a lock you need to pick. best of both worlds.
@tacounet123
@tacounet123 11 месяцев назад
@@TheDude4515 Where did u find gloves of archery?
@SheinelI
@SheinelI 11 месяцев назад
There is a helmet that give 1-4 hit score on target affected by hunter mark too. And boots that give Misty step + immunity to impairment
@gladiusgamer9324
@gladiusgamer9324 11 месяцев назад
​@tacounet123 iirc in the Emerald Grove the 1st merchant you come across has them.
@MrKnaives
@MrKnaives 11 месяцев назад
do yo level Ranger for the rest or Rogue? you didn't really go further with the leveling.
@Edge2177
@Edge2177 10 месяцев назад
Any chance you can round out the leveling on this build? I'm going for a dual wield so I think the right split is 5 ranger/7 rogue.
@itsmarmalade
@itsmarmalade 10 месяцев назад
I would imagine so. You need 5 ranger for the second attack and 7 rogue is extra sneak attack dmg I think.
@elocress7498
@elocress7498 11 месяцев назад
Isn't dual wielding handcrossbows overall better since you can choose to spend the bonus action on also dealing dmg? This way you have more attacks per round and therefore more sharpshooter procs which trumps the higher base dmg of the longbow. So dual handcrossbows would mean higher dpr and higher flexibility or do i miss smth? The sharpshooter feat also seems to be bugged for offhand attacks since it does apply the dmg but not the penalty to the hit roll.
@budimansupangat6814
@budimansupangat6814 11 месяцев назад
Wait you can dual wield hand crossbow ?
@jamesryks3804
@jamesryks3804 11 месяцев назад
@@budimansupangat6814 yup, and it rocks, with the sharpshooter feat and dread opener from gloomstalker you will be a killing machine.
@gladiusgamer9324
@gladiusgamer9324 11 месяцев назад
Add crossbow expert to that build and you'll be as insane close up as you are far away...
@alexmaganda5827
@alexmaganda5827 11 месяцев назад
only issue is with crossbows your range is lower wich can be detremental in some fights
@Squeeble00
@Squeeble00 11 месяцев назад
​​@@alexmaganda5827Once you get misty step though you've got enough mobility to reposition wherever you need to be pretty easily, and before then dash works okay.
@dandyosavage
@dandyosavage 8 месяцев назад
5 gloomstalker / 5 theif / 2 fighter ♥️
@apathy251
@apathy251 11 месяцев назад
assassin aint bad its for OHKO style of play you can easily do 250dmg in the first round on an enemy with sin pretty much bursting any boss instantly.
@aciek
@aciek 11 месяцев назад
Will it work to make Astarion into something build like this?
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