Ballade Sports Type S Exhaust Update (Not good) 

They even managed to copy the failure mechanism of the old ASM exhaust, incredible.

Average Ballade product. Thanks for being a test dummy, shame it's like this cuz the exhaust really looked promising.

Remark x Zero Auto Factory EQZ is easily my favorite single exhaust. Has a Helmholtz bypass chamber letting you choose how loud you want it. No hwy drone (with the quietest setting). Even at the loudest setting, still sounds refined. About 6k miles and 3 track days, no issues yet.

I can't say enough good things about my tanabe medallion touring exhaust. No real track time but it has stood up to almost 25k miles of bumpy New England roads and plenty of high rpm. In fact it took almost 5k miles to fully break in and sound perfect to my ears.

HKS Hi Power, the one with the boiler looking can, 6 years, 2 trackways later 80 k km of road touge abuse and sill performs and sounds amazing

Couple of points to make - you only use specific multiple point of weld and not the whole circle as these two pieces might expand and contract at a different rates. A possible solution would be to use larger welds, ot even better, use rivets to hold these pieces together. Having that said - the design of having tubes inside one another without a supporting wall is always bound to fail. metal fatigue, heat cycles and contraction and expansion of the pipes will always be the failure point

But it's Ballade Sports! They are THE Honda S2000 specialists. It must be the owner's fault for using the S2000 in a way it was intended to be used with this exhaust installed. FYI, it can NEVER be Ballade's fault

All this time i thought my Greddy exhaust was horrible. At lease that lasted me a couple of years. Thanks you for the update & great content once again!

I just got a s2k a year ago and after alot of parts buying and checking things out I see Ballade all the time. All of their stuff just looks like rebranded chinese knock off stuff with a big price premium. I ordered from their site one time and I am so glad I got the berk HFC instead of the balade one Edit - LOVE LOVE LOVE my Fujitsubo Legalis R exhaust - glad it came with the car!

Appreciate your dedication following up on this with a long term update! I’ve used a 3” Berk single catback on track for 4 years with my AP1. The durability has been great and the weight is also excellent. Unfortunately it pushes the sound limit at some tracks and is AWFUL on the highway haha. Too bad the Ballade exhaust isn’t a viable option as it otherwise seems to toe the line between noise, weight, and performance.

I've been running the Greddy Supreme SP dual exhaust on my daily '06 for a few thousand miles and I absolutely love it. Very tame with a nice tone, only a bit of drone reading around 94 dB. It's not a 70mm exhaust but I highly recommend.

I saw all i needed to know about them when i saw their video of upping the rev limiter to 11k on a stock motor.

Thanks for the updates, i was considering this exhaust but knowing it will not hold up, i will not be considering it anymore..

Too bad! What did you end up getting next? I have my eye on the Reve Touring Sl Catback (Tanabe) . Thoughts?

UK mod. Heavy, but OEM quality.

Doing gods work here man

Is this failure repairable? Like redoing the tack welds and welding the muffler back up. Does the cost exceed buying a different muffler from like Vibrant instead?

Good thing I went with a Remark exhaust instead of Ballade. They also blocked me on Instagram because I asked for advice on a weird noise coming from my driveshaft area 🥴

another typical Ballade product,

I got the Yonaka Motorsports and have tracked my AP2 for a whole year without any issues. 10+ track weekends so far.

with that said...i thought about getting their Ballade mugen seat rails to go with a recaro Pole position ABE...... i wonder if it will hold up.

Are you located near the SF Bay Area? Willing to do a valve adjustment on an AP1? I've seen your videos but afraid to DIY.

I have the Ballade Sports Dual Type S Exhaust on my car. I don't track my car and haven't had a failure (yet). But it may just be a ticking time bomb tbh. Did Ballade send those new replacement mufflers for free? Also, can they be repaired/improved if brought to a shop? Maybe it's time to consider a different exhaust. Maybe something from a reputable company LOL.

Still a fan of the good old tanabe medallion - it’s been rebranded now to something else but I have an original. I don’t track but I some regular hard driving on a consistent basis. I bought mine used with probably 20k miles on it and it’s been flawless the 3 years I’ve had it.

Thank you for the update!

Dang I was hoping that this would of been a good product too. You considered the EVS70 SSP exhaust instead? I love mine.

I wonder if you can reweld everything together

I have the duals and put about 5,000 miles on them. It's still holding up with only driving around town. I guess I will keep my JR exhaust for back up then :(

Figures your IG story went up after I took mine to 3 track days xD

mod the stock exhaust, make it into a single and increase flow by cutting baffles in the muffler. seen people attempt this but never finish it.

I've always appreciated your videos, sometimes I wish there were more but I get it, life is busy at times! As far as the exhaust goes, I would reach out to either the guys at CounterSpaceGarage (CSG) or the guys at Urge Designs. I know the two guys at CSG used to track their S2Ks pretty heavily, but think they moved onto the 86/BRZ platform. I know the guys at Urge still focus on S2Ks and tracking the cars. If I hadn't already got the J's Racing 70RR from CSG (at their suggestion) then I would be looking hard at the Urge exhaust. Neither options are cheap, but what's that saying? Buy once, cry once? Seriously, I don't like to bash but I would probably never buy something from Ballade. Of if you want to be baller, take a cross country trip to LHT and get a custom titanium exhaust system from them, which they will fabricate in-house while they have your S2K. But I know that would require some deep pockets lol.

Well wat about the yonaka exhaust it sounds good idk if it’s any good it’s similar in design idk what yall think? 🤔

Hey mine startled to rattle as well! Especially during low RPMs too. I had bought mine second hand off Facebook. I also track my s2000. So…it only makes sense…

Ballade sports has made a response to this video! They claim they have a new an imporved exhaust. Check out thier most recent video. 🧐

I'm on the hunt for a new exhaust after my Cleib 70mm single broke one of the hangers and tore a huge hole in the resonator after about 5 years. I've put maybe 20k miles on it, no track days, but tons of hard driving at the dragon. How is the S2k 24 years old and there's still no good exhaust solutions on the market? The Revel Medallion replica looks good, but it's only for 2000-2005 models. Has anyone tried LHT's Ti exhausts?

I thought Ballade Sports been a no-go for a while now?

You should try the Remark exhaust specifally designed for our S2000. Had it on for a couple years now and no issues at all.

Could you measure the piping inside the muffler for me?? Thanks!

I would say that Alex is going to whack you but knowing him he'd go with a 3rd rate hitman so your probably alright.

Ti ballade exhaust next!

The more I hear about Ballade and their products the more convinced I am to stay away from them.

Any experience with evasive’s t1r?

I don't know why anyone trusts Ballade anything at this point. There's too many reports out there of the low quality in their products and shady practices. If not chasing significant weight savings, the original Tanabe Medalion Touring was a winner. I put 100k miles on one with track, autox, and street and the only thing that changed about it was it wasn't quite as quiet at idle as it was when new.

hmm i have a similar rattle in my oem exhaust. i thought it was the cat since it's stock with almost 100k miles though.

i know you arent gonna wanna do this but can you do a guide on replacing the soft top lolol

Remark I love mines after the Js 70rr

I sold my Greddy Go Tuning exhaust. Shortly after my shit started rattling. I only drive my car on the weekends or track it smh..

Guess I'll weld a greddy muffler to mine in the future :(

So far my evasive single exit exhaust does what i want (semi quiet then roars when im on it). Oh and now droning - EVS Tuning 70-SSP $1,045 Have no complaints so far Although i dont track my S... Yet lol

welp i'm buying a new exhaust lol. t1r single or remark most likely

Woah, a Ballade product is total crap? How unusual 😂

When made in China goes wrong..however my titanium header is 2 years 8 track days going strong

I got a buddy club spec 2 for sale

Anyone tried the Cleib 70 mm yet?

Exact same thing happens with Yonaka exhausts! Stay away from Yonaka!

You can’t buy parts and expect perfection- You need to build your own boss. And then when everyone else wants it, they won’t be able to afford it lol due to the labor it takes to make things correctly. Personally- if you were happy with the product you had, but the welds failed- I’d get a real welder to fix it. But that’s just me. Can’t make parts to a price point that are going to survive track life

Should've cut them open properly so you can weld them back!? Although you can still weld them back like thatbtoo 😆

one in a million, i love ballade staff

Their batteries suck too. They last less than a year

Made In China ASM exhaust.

Ballade sport product is so shit that I don’t even bother to complain. Nothing they made work on my s2k, not to mention their 300 buck soft top latches.

This is why I stopped going to ballade sports, there customer service is poor, and there parts for example tct Is poor made, I had one and it leaked 3 months in idk how they are still in business people need to wake up and realize and stop buying there products or getting service done from them.

Ballade has been and will always be the worst product. Absolutely avoid them

Average ballade product

Cheap eBay knockoffs… ballade sports is trash.

Ballade sport is trash lol.