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Had literally hundreds of messages about this topic, today I answer some of those questions.
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@IronheadOfScroteus
@IronheadOfScroteus 6 лет назад
What I wear on the back of my jacket is...saddle soap. Conditions the leather nicely.
@boreman_rides
@boreman_rides 4 года назад
From my personal experience I've had lots of bikies down here in Australia come up and chat away with me about bands and music when I'm at the pub and wearing my battle jacket for the most part they seem to have respect for battle jackets
@moonshinepz
@moonshinepz 3 года назад
A Rick Astley band patch probably would get anyone in trouble, to be fair.
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 3 года назад
LMAO, classic.
@untangledmind1
@untangledmind1 8 лет назад
Happened to find your channel on here's mate! everything you said is true. I am a former U.S. Marine and we have the same advice you provide in this video. If you want to show your pride in your service, there are clubs out there strictly for Veterans. We adhere to the same rules or code that you have touched upon here. Thank you for your invaluable knowledge on the subject. Cheers to you mate and my friends in the Royal Marines! I know a few of them watch your videos. Be safe out there!
@eribertoacedo9505
@eribertoacedo9505 10 месяцев назад
Thank you very much. Proud of you guys and gals serving in the forces and if you ride, be safe out there, brother sisters can afford to lose anyone that serves bless all of you from San Diego California a friend.
@Thrashslashedmashedp
@Thrashslashedmashedp 8 лет назад
Always enjoy your videos dibber, very insightful and hope you're keeping well in health!
@michaelwalker1119
@michaelwalker1119 7 лет назад
A club I was in told one of the regions to remove a 10"? roundel that they had put on there cut. All the patches that the club sold were MC approved and 4" . I told one guy that some of his members were riding with a bottom rocker that said England. The guy nearly fell through the floor. The problem he had were the members were spread all over the area and when they had a meet these guys wouldn't were that cut. My cut has 4/5" patches on the back my leather jacket has the punisher skull on the back.
@chrisearp1350
@chrisearp1350 8 лет назад
Good to see you back. Can't wait for the support patch vid. Want to get them on my cut but seriously don't want to offend. Keep up the good work and ride safe.
@andrewbinnie5852
@andrewbinnie5852 7 лет назад
its called freedom wear what you like .but dont copy outlaw club patches.
@Wotanson56
@Wotanson56 8 лет назад
Glad you're back dude! I thought something happened to you, Keep up the good work! LH&R from Hungary.
@bl-edphoenix9486
@bl-edphoenix9486 7 лет назад
the only problem you can get from wearing band patches it's to get involved in a discussion about where you may have seen the band, why you like the bands or in the worst case arguing about the band it self, but it's always friendly and around a beer.
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 7 лет назад
Story of my youth LOL.
@bradcogan8588
@bradcogan8588 3 года назад
"Name three songs" lol I know the kind.
@kiprandom7208
@kiprandom7208 3 года назад
If anyone in the UK has a problem with Iron Maiden are they really British?
@TCBSideshow
@TCBSideshow 6 лет назад
Most clubs have a support website where you can get all their support gear. Hats, shirts,bananas, ext. Stay safe and support properly.
@metallicadead
@metallicadead 7 лет назад
Thanks for clarifying this stuff Dibber, i wasn't sure if i should customize my summer motorcycle jacket with the patches i made. Great channel by the way! :)
@deadgothicstar
@deadgothicstar 5 лет назад
I got independent, medic, a heart, a big skull in mid back (under independent), two eyes, a medic symbol, two cat heads, a don't ask/noyfb, an ace card, an anonymous, a no club, a good sight and a certified insane patch. That's the patches I have on now. I haven't had any trouble anywhere jet.
@mrcodyjmiller
@mrcodyjmiller 8 лет назад
Thank you for not playing your intro. I finally got it out of my head. And now that I said it, it's back in my head and I'll be saying it over and over for the next fortnight. lol
@ConkerTheCat
@ConkerTheCat 8 лет назад
Hey man, its been awhile since you posted. Glad to see your doing alright. Thanks for the interesting well informed video
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 8 лет назад
Many thanks Conker. H&R
@Shed_Heeran_AAV
@Shed_Heeran_AAV 2 года назад
One of my old Sgt Maj said to me "The Army can't MAKE you do anything, but it can MAKE you fucking wish you had!" I guess it's the same with patches, if you want to big time it wearing a patch you can wear whatever you want, but someone might make you wish you hadn't.
@aggressionsessions7839
@aggressionsessions7839 5 лет назад
Saw the title of the video and panicked, have a battle jacket with of band patches, thank you for putting my mind at rest haha.
@b.t.1632
@b.t.1632 4 года назад
I would like to add that it is not JUST three piece patches that you need to be aware of. ANY patch that symbolizes a group of riders needs to be approved by the local dominant, even one piece patches. In my state (I live in the US), the dominant 1% club is a single piece patch. It doesn't have to be three pieces to catch hell. It's really about the purpose of the patch. Does is represent a GROUP, or is it clearly an individual expression sort of thing. In another state, when I was in my late teens/early 20s, some of us spray painted our group's name on our vests. We meant no offense, but we didn't really know any better at the time. We were confronted by the local 1% club, which is one of the big 4 here in the states, a three piece. They realized we were young and didn't know any better, and we showed them respect by listening. They kind of took us as just kids having fun, but gave us the run down, the "rules of the road" so to speak. Some of my friends went on to join their support club later, and then patched as one of them even further down the road. Keep in mind, that was how this club CHOSE to handle it. Others might not be so understanding. Three pieces are the most common and the most needed to avoid, but ANY patch that symbolizes a GROUP of riders needs to be approved to avoid confrontation with the dominant. Bottom line, if you're unsure about a patch you want to wear as an individual, ask someone who knows the game. If you and your friends want to wear the same patch, regardless of pieces, get the okay from the local dominant first.
@solesthuscinder9716
@solesthuscinder9716 4 года назад
I was planning on having a patch on my vest with an eagle having it's wings open. Don't ride a bike and don't go out much. Just wanted to to know if a colorless eagle is too dangerous.
@ljflynn8283
@ljflynn8283 5 лет назад
Love the Hat!! Great content mate. I did 16.5 years service in the RAN
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 5 лет назад
Gifted to me by a Royal Australian Navy veteran who was a very good friend of mine. H&R and thanks for your service.
@TheQuantumzone
@TheQuantumzone 6 лет назад
UK Patch protocol is complicated and can be daunting. But take this advice and you wont go far wrong. again Dibber good advice
@happybandana6518
@happybandana6518 7 лет назад
the most stupid thing someone can do is to wear a MC patch if the person is actually not in a MC
@arminiusschild5260
@arminiusschild5260 8 лет назад
Good to have you back. It's funny but when I was younger and stupider I really like those T shirts that had "Airborne-Death From Above" on them. But I couldn't bring myself to wear them because I was not in the army. But then after I joined the army and went airborne I bought the shirt. I wore it like once and never again. I just felt no need to wear the shirt and just thought it was silly. But the army cook shirt was cool, "Death From Within" and crossed fork and spoon.
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 8 лет назад
Crossed knife and fork, brilliant LOL.
@blindwilliejefferson1181
@blindwilliejefferson1181 8 лет назад
Glad you're back making vids.
@mrcodyjmiller
@mrcodyjmiller 8 лет назад
I have a vest that I wear sometimes when I'm riding alone that has my military history on it and some random patches, but the only back patch is from a motorcycle association. When I ride and wear with my MC kutte, I only wear what the MC wears and what I've earned.
@Ironink
@Ironink 6 лет назад
Happy New Year, Dibber!
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 6 лет назад
Same back at ya Robbo H&R
@robinpoulton3352
@robinpoulton3352 6 лет назад
Was a little worried about what i had on my waist coat but you made it very clear what was acceptable and not acceptable. Thanks
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 6 лет назад
Glad to be of help H&R
@keithevans8635
@keithevans8635 5 лет назад
@@DibberInTheWind iam wondering if it's ok to have patches of bikes names ie honda, triumph, that sort of thing. All so is it ok to put on things like root 66 patches and England patches or uk patches on my denim vest. Iam a new rider, and it's been a long time coming, I've been interested in bikes all my life, but my family would not allow me to have one, because my dad got killed on one a long time ago, when i was 8years old. Iam now 53, and i am not a member of a mc club. As i like all bikers. Please can you help me know wot i can have. Thanks.
@ghw1985
@ghw1985 7 лет назад
Thank you so much i am glad you made this video, i would never disrespect an MC I have a megadeth shirt that says ''arsenal of megadeth'' tshirt sewn on my jean vest but no rockers of any sort
@AlTalkspodcast
@AlTalkspodcast 8 лет назад
Good to see you back on youtube
@Lanesplitter
@Lanesplitter 5 лет назад
Corduroys flares with open-toe sandals - is that combo allowed? Snagged ‘em in the open primary occasionally on my Shovel but never got any hassle otherwise. I just rag that fucker all over the knot end.
@sammydodger91
@sammydodger91 8 лет назад
Im glad you touched on this topic as I'm a big Motorhead fan and have a Motorhead jacket that I ride out on the bike that has caused controversy with MC members and Barstool Bullshitters both have been respectfully told to get knotted as it is not a three piece nor does it sport any "MC" patches.
@charlesparks7267
@charlesparks7267 8 лет назад
good to see you back
@tonyhadden4651
@tonyhadden4651 5 лет назад
The advise is if in doubt dont do it, then you can go anywhere and not worry about it, patches just cause problems.
@steviejacko
@steviejacko 8 лет назад
Thats quite interesting to note whats acceptable , have a good weekend Dibber :)
@BillSikes.
@BillSikes. 8 лет назад
thanks Dibber,for these fascinating insights, into the Dark and mysterious world of Motorcycle Subculture
@oldsalty65
@oldsalty65 8 лет назад
Nice Cap Ol Mate and it's good to hear about the reasons for different Patches and when and not to wear them, P&L :0)
@georgespecht7606
@georgespecht7606 6 лет назад
Motorhead!
@Loco37422
@Loco37422 7 лет назад
Couple of the blokes at our work place are in the same MC and do loads of rides for charity and the kids at Christmas, Dave had a British legion and a few other patches to show respect for our war heroes...I do not have anything to do with bikes or a MC but i think its great what the biker clubs do for charity.
@FaithRoswell
@FaithRoswell 5 лет назад
Hi Dibber, I have a question about front patches. I belong to a group of people with various skills (e.g. fire, custom vehicles etc) and often perform at metal festivals/bike events etc. A lot of us wear a variety of patches (bands, custom made, personal etc- and not BLS) and we were recently given front patches with our nicknames, roles and other things which are earned. Is this a problem? Is there a place we shouldn't put them? I've checked with a friend in a US club, who said all was fine, but I'm in England and would like a second opinion. Respect to you, your videos are great.
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 5 лет назад
If the patches are in relation to performing at events then that shouldn't pose an issue so long as you only wear them at events and promotional events, start riding around as a group whilst wearing them and you could well be approached about them if they look like motorcycle club patch set-ups.
@breeniedb
@breeniedb 8 лет назад
Love the Channel and just getting into learning about MC culture, Im local to the UK and thinking of going for my CBT. All this information is awesome and I totally understand how important respect and patches are! Out of interest how does being a "Nomad" work? Are you still affiliated with a club and what happens to your patches? Any info is really appreciated thanks guys.
@shabhal
@shabhal 7 лет назад
All Dibber said in this video could be applied word by word in Spain too. Good job Dibber.
@spaszu
@spaszu 6 лет назад
Dibber, Although you speak mainly about the territory of Great Britain, but I think that what you say can be extensively used on the continent. My question is how do you find wearing the "bite me fanboy" patch from Lobo comic book? I've seen it several times on back of t-shirts or jeans cut vests. For me it looks like three-piece patch and I suppose it was to look like mc patch. As far I’m not planning to put this patch to on my cut, I’m still wondering, if it would be ok having it printed on the back of a t-shirt. Respect, R.
@rodavids1210
@rodavids1210 6 лет назад
Robert Spaszewski good question. Or what if you have a 3 piece on the front of a tshirt just wearing casually even when ur not on ur bike
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 6 лет назад
Doesn't matter if it's on the front or back, it's the actual 3 patch design that is the problem, MC back patch designs are ALL protected under copyright or trademark laws, and the even older clubs regailia is also protected under historical rights as it was the MC's that invented the 3 patch design. It belongs to the clubs, if you're not in an MC that has been cleared by the Coalition or Alliance of clubs, then you shouldn't be wearing our protected designs.
@WestAussie
@WestAussie 8 лет назад
I wear the same hat with pride Bro. Our old mate is one of a kind
@Beltmaker09
@Beltmaker09 6 лет назад
I don't live in the U.K. But I'm making a 3 piece patch as a memorial to what happened in Las Vegas back in October as my fiancé was part of it, well it will be technically a four piece as there will be a patch between the center photo and the bottom rocker
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 6 лет назад
Not a smart idea, or didn't you hear what i said in this video.
@Beltmaker09
@Beltmaker09 6 лет назад
DibberInTheWind not sure why it matters. I don't live in U.K. Plus I don't believe someone else should be telling me what I cant wear
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 6 лет назад
It matters because you are planing on making a 3 piece back parch set, the same patch configuration of MC clubs. It doesn't matter if you're in the UK or not, copying the layout of a 3 piece MC patch set and slapping it on your back in any country where there are MC clubs isn't smart, and you have a very big MC on your doorstep if you're in Las Vegas or anywhere near it.
@Beltmaker09
@Beltmaker09 6 лет назад
DibberInTheWind but what I'm saying is it wouldn't have a city on it anywhere just the name of a venue and a date other than that how old would you go about applying something like that to the back without a copying the layout of an actual group
@Beltmaker09
@Beltmaker09 6 лет назад
In my opinion as long as it doesn't say mc mcc rc or 1% you should be fine
@CasimusxPrime
@CasimusxPrime 7 лет назад
I know most music patches are approved, but one got me curious. Those two rocker patches Bon Jovi wore on a denim jacket. One said that band name, the other said New Jersey
@willowsmutt8313
@willowsmutt8313 6 лет назад
US Navy 75-85 disabled vet. And totally understand earned... Mad respects to anyone, be it a mc club or some kind of a vet club who earned their colors
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 6 лет назад
100% with you on that, a great deal of what we are today within the motorcycle club world we owe to those that saw service, it was from those guys a lot of the older clubs can trace their original lineage back too, and why we have a ranking system that that is very military like, the 2 are linked in history H&R
@willowsmutt8313
@willowsmutt8313 6 лет назад
Very correct sir... Ty for gabbin
@3dcowboy1980
@3dcowboy1980 4 года назад
So I'm working on starting a ministry and I plan on wearing a simple back patch round single piece with the name of the ministry at the top and our county and state at the bottom on the inside circle that should be good right? I haven't found any clubs that resemble it yet.
@b.t.1632
@b.t.1632 4 года назад
Depends on where you live. First, I can say DO NOT claim territory on your patch. That's an immediate no-go. For the rest of the patch design and purpose, to many dominant clubs ANYTHING that symbolizes a GROUP of riders under a single patch, this can be a problem. Why? Because it is a declaration of a new "club". Riding club or MC start ups need to be cleared by the local dominant to ensure no problems down the road. Trust me, this will save you a lot of trouble later. Since you are doing a ministry thing, most dominant clubs will not have a problem with it as long as 1) your patch doesn't look like other clubs and you do not claim any territory,, and 2) you talk to them FIRST. Do not wait for them to come to you. That shows you tried to "get away with it" and can turn them sour to the idea. Best of luck, hope it works out for ya.
@bradmarkmichaelduffy5915
@bradmarkmichaelduffy5915 6 лет назад
im thinking about getting a leather vest with just band stuff on it nothing to do with actual motorcycle clubs but i still get told its not acceptable even though it would have nothing to do with actual clubs on them, and this was in a rock pub Glasgow by the way?
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 6 лет назад
It's only not acceptable when those band patches resemble MC and MCC club patches, stay away from those kinds of designs and you'll be just fine, it isn't like you don't know the consequences if you don patches that look like MC club patches if you've watched my videos on this subject. H&R
@markanthonybent4460
@markanthonybent4460 6 лет назад
Thanks For Clearing That Up Dibber !!!!
@bingus1256
@bingus1256 6 лет назад
Hey Dibbler, or anyone, hope you can help. I was looking at maybe starting a group in my hometown that is not an MC, its just a community group of sorts, and we had this idea of a single piece back patch claiming no turf or territory, just the name of the group and an insignia. (And it wont be set up to look like a 3 piece but its all attached, I know that's not a clever loophole.) Would this be okay or is this a good way to catch a beating?
@downriver_death
@downriver_death 6 лет назад
LordOfTheHunt Well its not an MC, but I think you could consider it an SC, kinda like the old greaser gangs of the 50s-70s in the U.S. Personally I think its how y'all conduct yourselves, if you're not strutting around like you're a gang or with intent to front as violent. It may not be a good idea, but you'd have to ask yourself how the local clubs in your area would react. Like in my area, you could be in one of those fraternal orders like the FOE or the Moslems, where they have club jackets with their name and insignia. But if you're wearing cuts, you might have to rethink your style. I would suggest a small front patch to show your club but not show off like you're showing off colors to people who would want to harm you. My uncle started a club when he was a teenager with his friends and that's what he wears is just a small front patch telling their club, but no big patch with their logo. They aren't outlaws, but there is always a chance of getting into trouble with other clubs, especially in Detroit. Hope this helps.
@thedoveston6781
@thedoveston6781 6 лет назад
You could get in touch with your local confederation/coalition of clubs. Any RC/MCC will be able to float your idea to the people who regulate such things. This is usually the local MC. They are the people you want to convince because they can advise you on what you can and can't do, if there is a club already fulfilling that mission you could join etc. If you have their back by showing the proper respect they will have your back if you run into any problems.
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 6 лет назад
If this person is in the UK then they will need to contact their local dom 1% MC, and i doubt very much that any British MC will allow them to wear a club patch on their backs.
@philschneider3040
@philschneider3040 6 лет назад
Came across your vids by accident Dibber. I'm a member of a Military MC. Our patches and regalia had to be approved by the UMC, universal motorcycle club council, who 'requested' a small change. A skull was replaced with the Federal Star from the Aussie flag. 1%ers welcome us in colours where they don't wear theirs. The respect I get from some pretty hard lads at my local for putting my hand up is pretty cool. A big up to the UK MMCs and all Sappers. Ubique
@markhinde6187
@markhinde6187 8 лет назад
Happy to see you are ok mate
@markwatson4043
@markwatson4043 5 лет назад
Hi Dibber. great site, enjoy your comments and advice a lot. Quick question, is it acceptable to wear a support patch on your vest belonging to a 1% MC when you ride your bike through an area which "belongs" (probably not the correct word !) to a different 1% Club ?. I only ask as I was "approached" by a member of a Support Club in my area (a Support Club for the local 1% Club) and "advised" that I shouldn't be showing the patch on my jacket. Your advice would be very much appreciated, I don't want to show disrespect to the local MCC & 1% Club. Although, I would confess at this point, I did tell the guy to "f*** off" . . which he did . . . .
@LG-cz6ls
@LG-cz6ls 5 лет назад
Don't know what Dibber thinks, but IMO it's not a good idea. Unless the club you are supporting is affiliated with the MC (not exactly a likely scenario in the UK). If a member of the local MC catches you in their territory wearing support for a rival MC, they will not be a happy bunny. Don't do it. Show a little respect
@eribertoacedo9505
@eribertoacedo9505 10 месяцев назад
If you were a support patch, do some research? On what clubs your support patch don’t get along with. You may have issues with a rival club. Be safe think twice about a support patch.
@ramizdayiseverler
@ramizdayiseverler 7 лет назад
I have become a supporter of my local MC with your videos&help,when i get my bike,i'll go mc!
@Bloodandiron86
@Bloodandiron86 Год назад
I'm from wales, and love the place, wondering if I could get in any trouble or heat for having a welsh flag on my cutoff?
@morganthomas3570
@morganthomas3570 Год назад
Nah mate I’m from wales as well I have one ridden with friends who are in clubs they say it’s fine
@DaveDoingDaveThings
@DaveDoingDaveThings 4 года назад
How come Motorhead back patches are ok when they are set out as a 3 piece? Is it because it's Motorhead and very few people are going to mistake it for a fake MC? Or is it that the Motorhead patch is usually one big patch and not 3 separate patches?
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 4 года назад
Motorhead 3 piece are not legit Motorhead merch and they are NOT ok. Lemmy Kilmister was an old school biker himself and spent a lot of time around the MC world, there are even pictures out there of him on his old bikes. Lemmy knew better than to create 3 piece back patch merch which is why there is NO legit 3 piece Motorhead merch. Don't try to tell me there is as my uncle was part of their road and stage crew, i even have one of "Fast" Eddie Clarke's practice amps in my loft.
@DaveDoingDaveThings
@DaveDoingDaveThings 4 года назад
@@DibberInTheWind Ah ok, so the pieces being physically separate makes a lot of difference then. I envy you that amp by the way🤘🏻 Thanks for clearing that up
@joeblack333
@joeblack333 3 года назад
Dibber, you have a real treasure there. Ive been a diehard Motorheadbanger most of my life. I bet your uncle has a load of great stories from back then. Cheers.
@kevanbaconofficial
@kevanbaconofficial 5 лет назад
I belong to the Watain Disciples, the fan club for the black metal band Watain. The band wears 3 piece cuts very similar to a club, and the Disciples wear similar cuts, with a different back patch. The band wears a top rocker ("WATAIN") and a bottom rocker ("Black Metal Militia"). Disciples can use the same rockers, or have the top rocker say "Black Metal Militia" while the bottom has their territory, "US Division," "Canadian Legion," etc... I chose to use the same rockers as the band, without territory, because there are a couple different 1% clubs in my area, I didn't wanna have anyone think I'm part of a new MC moving into town.. I should point out, unlike BLS cuts, Disciples must earn some of the patches by bringing certain tributes to the band when they tour.
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 5 лет назад
Wouldn't get away with walking around the streets wearing that stuff in the UK, just ask BLS fans what happened in the UK 2005, those patches are still on take-down notice to this very day.
@pops_approved
@pops_approved 7 лет назад
I wanna say thanks for making this video because I like to add random patches that I like to my cut, I've been worried about what I put on and now I know what patches to stay away from.
@ralphfernandez4231
@ralphfernandez4231 2 года назад
I have a HD patch that looks like 3 piece but it's only one piece is that ok
@johnbatty3535
@johnbatty3535 6 лет назад
Hi Dibber are you a member of the AFB, plus is there other military Mc's in the UK ?
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 6 лет назад
No i'm not a member of the Armed Forces Bikers, i was however a Royal Artillery Cadet in my younger days. There is only one back patch Military MC in the UK and that's the Patriots MC, all other military based clubs fly front or side patch H&R
@Therealsidjones
@Therealsidjones 4 года назад
This I don’t believe has been addressed. The removal/taking of the jacket/vest/waistcoat what exactly happens in that situation? And does it have to be a highly ranked member of the MC?
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 4 года назад
What happens in that situation ? they simply take it, how that goes down is totally up to you and if you hand it over or not when asked. A patch holder doesn't have to be a high ranking member to take a cut, a prospect can take it too.
@Therealsidjones
@Therealsidjones 4 года назад
DibberInTheWind thank you for your response on this. Love the content on this channel!
@joed8857
@joed8857 5 лет назад
Hi Dibber, would you need the green light to have a one piece on your back with an Mcc name and logo ? I'm just curious, not asking for any purpose just wondering how it works. So if it was all in one patch, no bottom rocker or top rocker. I'm gonna hazard a guess that anything to go on the back of a cut will need to be sanctioned by a local MC ?
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 5 лет назад
Back patch is a status that has to be earned and the chances of the local DOM MC sanctioning a brand new back patch are slim to none, wont happen regardless of if it says MC or MCC.
@joed8857
@joed8857 5 лет назад
@@DibberInTheWind thought as much! Keep up the vids mate. Love the content. Much needed education for us starting the journey
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 5 лет назад
@Andy Gunn, sorry to put you right on this one but, not all MCC's wear their patches on the front of their waistcoats. I know multiple MCC's that wear a back-patch set, Outlanders MCC being a prime example, there are also 3 piece front side-patch MC's too, again i know a few.
@illfatex1979
@illfatex1979 8 лет назад
hey love the channel could i put a full back piece of my units cap badge on the back of a cut or would that be a no go.
@Bcharns
@Bcharns 2 года назад
Here in the U.S. I've got a large skull within an American Flag back patch on my vest with Harley Davidson on top and Motorcycles on the bottom rocker and have never had a problem. Just don't add (MC) or a State with it and you should be fine. Outlaws MC run in my state of FL and have never bothered me.
@mbchannel1037
@mbchannel1037 5 лет назад
What if I design my own patches and put it on my vest. Does it consider as wrong?
@Anthony-kn7lh
@Anthony-kn7lh 5 лет назад
It's its a 3 piece expect to lose it maybe along with your teeth
@absatze1958
@absatze1958 8 лет назад
good to see you uploading again mate. I've been meaning to ask what's the name of the song that's on your video intros
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 8 лет назад
Only a couple as i'm back on the campaign trail again very soon. H&R
8 лет назад
Nice one man! In one of your videos you've given advice about creating a MC. Also, you have explained the difference between an MC and a MCC. Could you give some advice about creating Riding Clubs?
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 8 лет назад
If you intend wearing a patch for said riding club then it's the same rules for any other group that wants to form a patch wearing club, if it involves a membership patch then you'll still fall under the patch rules and require permission from your local senior MC.
@eribertoacedo9505
@eribertoacedo9505 10 месяцев назад
Hook up with some of your friends can go out riding around it starts right there.
@JheoFaul66709
@JheoFaul66709 8 лет назад
Brilliant video mate!
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 8 лет назад
Many thanks H&R
@darcyjousset6615
@darcyjousset6615 7 лет назад
I think the biggest reason i respect and bikers and have become one my self is the massive amount of respect they give to our vets. As well as the fact that our vets played a major roll in creating the "code" that most bikers and MC's live by. The reason the patches mean so much is because they are considered a clubs version of military medals and honors. They have to be earned the same way, with actions and show of commitment. Same with rank. I never served myself due to my knees being shot. But I was born on November 11. I feel its my responsibility to make sure no one ever forgets what those men and women did for us. I am very proud of my countries military history. (Canada) I am also very proud of our link to the UK and their military as well. (considering for most of Canada's existence we were a part of the UK military lol) My Grandfather died fighting in Vietnam with the french air force in 59. So that also has a lot to do with it as well. anyways great vids.
@grahammarks6254
@grahammarks6254 7 лет назад
hi dibs. what's the thinking around "scooter clubs" I've seen a few over the years with the top rocker bottom rocker and club emblem. is this a total different thing altogether. many thanks.
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 7 лет назад
Scooter clubs tend to do their own thing and also police themselves in matters of scooter clubs, i do however advise that scooter clubs also check with the senior MC before donning a patch as they could be using an MC or MCC's name or colour combination, more so if they are thenking of going around local club events, it also has it's benefits to be on side with your local MC/MCC clubs H&R
@desantos1234
@desantos1234 8 лет назад
would it be okay for me to have my regimental logo (Royal Anglian Regiment) in a 3 piece configuration, for example on the top line "Royal Anglian" then the logo, and on the bottom my Battalion?
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 8 лет назад
Not set up as a 3 Piece Back Patch as that wouldn't be your official Military insignia/Regalia, the 3 piece is the creation and property of the original MC clubs that broke the single back-patch into 3 individual patches. Not only that, you have to consider the exclusively Military and Veteran MC's such as The Patriots MC that fly a 3 piece, and clubs that are already in existence, if you want to go down that road i'd suggest these awesome Military Clubs. The All Arms Veterans - www.aavmcc.co.uk/index.html and The Patriots MC - www.patriotsmc.co.uk/ H&R and THANK-YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE.
@desantos1234
@desantos1234 8 лет назад
+DibberInTheWind thanks mate, will do ;)
@ScottishSoap22
@ScottishSoap22 8 лет назад
anothet great video as always Dibber
@myyth00s87
@myyth00s87 3 года назад
Is it wrong to wear one back patch of a tv show "sons of anarchy" on my cut ? I mean it's just the symbol nothing else
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 3 года назад
If you're wearing just the reaper then it isn't a problem, it becomes a problem when you start adding the rockers and even more of a problem when idiots add the MC patch too.
@myyth00s87
@myyth00s87 3 года назад
@@DibberInTheWind thank you now I feel much more confident about the Reaper on my cut And I will promise here bc I really respect every biker on this planet for what they doing and how they earned their top and bottom rocker, I will never put some rocker on my cut Thank you alot man
@marcvanheemsbergen7076
@marcvanheemsbergen7076 7 лет назад
Hi whats the protocol on wearing the motorcycle make of your bike on your jacket, ie the logo of the bike you ride? ie i ride a victory, i have a small patch which is identical to my tank logo, victory motorcycles, simple, if i can wear it where would be acceptable to put it? might sound a silly question?
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 7 лет назад
There are no restrictions on motorcycle manufacturer patches.
@samgreen3989
@samgreen3989 7 лет назад
Just wondered with rockers, if you were to wear rockers with live to ride ride to live on with no type of patch between them would that be offensive in any way?
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 7 лет назад
I said in this video NO ROCKERS with that slogan
@warlrusrides1200c
@warlrusrides1200c 3 года назад
I hope you can clear something up for me please, i have joined the RBL riders branch. My question is can i wear a side rocker with the words ‘veteran’ on the side of my cut off... i admire and am in awe of MC clubs and dont want to piss them off.......saying that, how do i find the dominant MC club in my area, that being Milton Keynes.
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 3 года назад
Your local branch should be able to tell you what you can and cant wear, as far as i know RBL Riders wear an optional patch and don't fly any rockers. If memory serves me right, MK falls under Lea Valley 81
@warlrusrides1200c
@warlrusrides1200c 3 года назад
@@DibberInTheWind ....brilliant, thank you..stay safe
@CasimusxPrime
@CasimusxPrime 7 лет назад
Now I have a question. I was at my local grocery story and this guy was wearing a denim jacket with various patches all over it. There were some music patches, a couple flags, and various symbols. What caught me is that he had a patch for the 101st Airborne on his sleeve. Isn't it frowned upon to wear that patch if he wasn't an actual member of the 101st?
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 7 лет назад
If they earned it then they have every right to wear it, if they haven't earned it then it shouldn't be worn by anyone that didn't earn it, pretty simple.
@CasimusxPrime
@CasimusxPrime 7 лет назад
DibberInTheWind He didn't look like he earned it. He looked like he was my age.
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 7 лет назад
Casimus Prime I've seen some right boy like faces wearing the Queens Uniform, looks can sometimes be deceiving. I lay money that if i showed you some pictures of me in my Uniform wearing my Beret and Royal Artillery Insignia and Cap Badge, you wouldn't know how old i was when they were taken, and i signed up as an RA Cadet when i was 13. The give away is the band patches, no self respecting Member of the 101st Airborne, or any other Military Service for that matter, would wear that patch on a denim with band patches, you should have called him on it, a real 101st Airborne would thank you for checking on their behalf and showing Respect for the Military, a faker gets exposed in public for wearing a patch that they neither earned, or should even be wearing.
@demonocusmetalocus3558
@demonocusmetalocus3558 6 лет назад
This video was helpful
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 6 лет назад
Glad to be of help H&R
@adamgore8046
@adamgore8046 8 лет назад
Hi mate, I've been following your channel for a while now. I've got a quick one for you. I'm a biker, but I'm also a die hard Motörhead fan. I have a big back patch (yet to be stitched on). It's a big square one with the classic warpig logo, but it has the band's name at the top and 'England' at the bottom. I'm pretty sure it's alright as it's not a 3-piece set up with the top and bottom rockers like the BLS one, but I thought I'd double check before getting it put on because I don't want to cause any disrespect or offence amongst patched clubs.
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 8 лет назад
The MC's have made no negative statement about it as far as i know, it wasn't one that i was asked to keep an eye out for, Motorhead have a great deal of respect within the British club community.
@adamgore8046
@adamgore8046 8 лет назад
+DibberInTheWind Cheers for getting back to me, it's appreciated!
@dix7015
@dix7015 5 лет назад
I have a denim cut with two small Motorhead patches on the front on either side of my chest. Is that likely to cause me trouble?
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 5 лет назад
Nope, band patches are fine just as long as you don't set up patches to resemble those of Motorcycle Clubs, such as Black Label Society patch sets which have been outlawed in the UK on the streets since 2005 H&R
@dix7015
@dix7015 5 лет назад
@@DibberInTheWind Cheers Dibs.
@Ballsdeepsport
@Ballsdeepsport 8 лет назад
Dibs, can you do a video on the rise of the MCs in England? The reason I'm asking is because in the last year I've seen Vikings, Road Rats and HA. I'm east London based and know the HA are in Bethnal Green, but the other clubs seem more prevalent than ever. I saw the HA going through Blackfrairs the other day. With regards to talking to club members as a mon biker, nor someone who wants to, is there etiquette in approaching these lads? I'm interested in your channel because I'm interested in British sub cultures. It all started with the football casuals for me and like with most sub cultures, the interesting thing is what drives people's enthusiasm
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 8 лет назад
Quite simply, NO, if you want to know about the history of these MC's, i'd suggest you check the history pages on their own websites.
@purlmanadventures9477
@purlmanadventures9477 6 лет назад
Awsome video XD yup if its gifted u can wear it when it comes from an army vet
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 6 лет назад
My hat bares the name of the Navy Serviceman that gifted it to me too. H&R
@purlmanadventures9477
@purlmanadventures9477 6 лет назад
DibberInTheWind hell ya brrother a vet gives u something like that means your a good purson
@TheChillinRed
@TheChillinRed 5 лет назад
What if i just want to put a patch of a wolf in the back of my jacket and nothing else just the wolf 🐺face can I do that
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 5 лет назад
Not a problem, just don't dress it up to look like MC back-patch set-up H&R
@matousbahensky6427
@matousbahensky6427 6 лет назад
I wear whatever I want, that's all, if you don,t like it is not my problem, nobody absolutely nobody have the right to touch my balls for the way I dress. I am not in a club i I don,t need to accept the rules of a club. If the patch of my favourite band looks like a 3 piece club patch and I want to wear it... I will do. I only understand you bother me if I was wearing one patch of a M.C. not being member.
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 6 лет назад
Think again, the moment you try and step into our world by wearing patch sets that resemble motorcycle club patches you fall under our rules as the design is protected by trademark and copyright law, best of luck with that. Your attitude will get you in deep trouble, just ask the Black Label Society fans what happened to them in Manchester back in 2005.
@okidoke4822
@okidoke4822 6 лет назад
lol, it's not your problem until guess what, you have a problem.
@barrymccockiner1153
@barrymccockiner1153 6 лет назад
We all bleed the same in the end.
@thedoveston6781
@thedoveston6781 6 лет назад
Andy Black only if you can prove it
@karl8115
@karl8115 5 лет назад
Off you go then Billy Big Bollocks. Let us know how that works out for you.
@absolutelyheretical7132
@absolutelyheretical7132 8 лет назад
Can you have a patch of an animals head or something similar on the back of your jacket? No rockers or any writing, just a patch of a dog or wolfs head or something like that?
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 8 лет назад
No problem with that.
@absolutelyheretical7132
@absolutelyheretical7132 8 лет назад
DibberInTheWind Thanks, I was really wondering about this :)
@VeritasEtAequitas
@VeritasEtAequitas 8 лет назад
One piece is (almost) always ok
@EXODUSTHRASHER
@EXODUSTHRASHER 7 лет назад
hey man whats the issue with someone wearing a black label society patch as its a band im from edinburgh n i see a guy go round with it no bother?is bls a biker gang somewere then i could understand also wats the deal with sons of anarcy i love that show ?
@SpiderRiderMC
@SpiderRiderMC 7 лет назад
Their patch has been outlawed in the UK since the 2005 Manchester incident, Zakk knows this and so does his management. It's outlawed in the UK on Copyright and Trademark infringement grounds and the MC's including my own, will confiscate them on sight, he's just been lucky..
@WILD__THINGS
@WILD__THINGS 7 лет назад
I'm glad I stumbled upon your video because I've always wondered what MCs think about the BLS vests. Funny thing is, there was a reality show some years back that followed the Ozzfest tour and long story short Zack Wylde got all upset at some kid for putting a BLS vest on and gave a whole speech about respect and how the vest had to be earned. Yet he didn't seem to realize the irony in the fact that he was disrespecting MCs himself. Also, wanted to ask about the Sons of Anarchy gear. You mentioned in the other video that T shirts are acceptable. What about a t shirt featuring the Sons top and bottom rocker?
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 7 лет назад
No official Sons MERCH features a bottom rocker, get seen wearing it, get ready to lose it.
@wookie9263
@wookie9263 7 лет назад
DibberInTheWind They are hard to get but fox / soa merchsndise did produce a few faux jackets and denim with fleece sleeves with full back patch minus the mc and in green with ireland at the bottom. Obviously there is always going to be controversy but ive founs that bikers are genuienly nice compassionate ordinary people so if your wearing a jumper or jacket with it printed on like any other bought merch fine a simple conversation shows your not trying to act the part, sewing patches on the other hand is asking for more due to the obvious.
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 7 лет назад
The Ireland Merch noes NOT have a physical bottom rocker, it has Ireland in a ribbon side on as part of the centre patch, big difference to having a physical bottom rocker. You're wrong to assume the official Merch is accepted by the general club community which simply isn't the case, there are patch holders that will take the official Merch too as they see it as an affront, just because one club says it's ok it doesn't mean all the other clubs think the same way, i take fake patches period.
@WILD__THINGS
@WILD__THINGS 7 лет назад
So how come instead of confronting random civilians wearing the gear who most likely don't know any better, these MCs don't just take their issue to the companies that produce the gear?
@wookie9263
@wookie9263 7 лет назад
DibberInTheWind I stand corrected relooked at the ireland patch and your right. so as long as it doesnt have a bottom rocker and its not sewed on instead of an iron on plastic like most printed tshirts and hoodies i still say let them try and take it. as i say before bikers have been given a bad rep for years and if your trting to say youll walk up to me a conplete stranger and try and take my hoodie from me when i walking down the street and not on a bike trying to act the big yin then your just making shit worse. respect to the 1% but if people are getting worked up over plastic pictures on hoodies instead of going after leather cuts and sewn on patches then the world is truly losing the word freedom.
@brainsiklunatic842
@brainsiklunatic842 6 лет назад
this problem stems from the innate primal human need to belong. some people are genetic lone wolves others are lost pack wolves, needing a headsmack or a little push.
@HeyitsSpudnick
@HeyitsSpudnick 8 лет назад
Hi dibber, good to have you back with us. I have a question regarding back patches, you touched upon it in the video but i wanted to know more. In the UK is a single piece ride to live, live to ride patch acceptable, you did say the three piece isnt, but what about a single? Thank you.
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 8 лет назад
I have one on the back of my old winter over jacket, i hope that answers your question.
@HeyitsSpudnick
@HeyitsSpudnick 8 лет назад
+DibberInTheWind it does thank you
@stevec6838
@stevec6838 2 года назад
And definitely don't wear one of those Sons of Anarchy vests/patches w/rocker, or jacket. Or a blatant Lone-Wolf patch on the back of a vest that looks like a cut. Alot of clubs take that as an insult, and think that YOU think you're too good to be in a club. The best one is the Ice Cream men cut...they don't give a flying fuck what anyone thinks🤣🤣🤣 cheers!
@regansmith4511
@regansmith4511 7 лет назад
what about pictures.... Mine has 2 big angel wings on the back. and my vest is mostly covered in those metal band logos, and those quote ones
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 7 лет назад
No issues with that, we are talking about patches that resemble MC back-patches.
@samirharmim
@samirharmim 8 лет назад
Good evening. I recently was at an event and got a support patch. just wondering where it would be acceptable to wear on a jacket.
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 7 лет назад
If you want to show proper respect, you'll wear it away from areas on the cut where patch-holders would wear their patches, i always advise that people put support patches on the lowest part of the right hand side of the front of the cut.
@samirharmim
@samirharmim 7 лет назад
thank you. Much appreciated
@blindwilliejefferson1181
@blindwilliejefferson1181 8 лет назад
Sorry for another question on this but the rules regarding patches in the UK seem pretty esoteric, and I don't want to disrespect anyone, if I want to put a heavy metal style small patch on either side of my chest (wear the pockets would be on a shirt) that would be a band like Motorhead/ Orange Goblin/ Black Sabbath etc (something that may have skull and crossbones design or similar) is this fine?
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 7 лет назад
Band patches are fine, just avoid anything that resembles a real Club patch.
@marksharples8307
@marksharples8307 7 лет назад
what about motorhead england t shirts and also using one as a back panel on a jacket/cut dibber?
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 7 лет назад
Motorhead stuff has always been OK.
@ivantoxie
@ivantoxie 6 лет назад
I saw A guy the other week at metal show with all out three piece SOA back patch, the whole vest was a copycat. He looked like a chump ass idiot sitting on the high stool moving his head to the music with that stuff on. I hope he got intercepted.
@GloomGenetics
@GloomGenetics Год назад
yo dibber, what Bike would you recommend for a first time rider? cheers from Germany.
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind Год назад
Hard to recommend a bike for someone when i don't know their body build, how tall they are etc. My advise to anyone coming into the biker world is to avoid the Chinese shit bucket bikes like the plague and go with brands that are tried and tested over many decades. Also, you buy a bike you feel comfortable on and the style you like, not a bike someone else chooses for you.
@dwojcik1000
@dwojcik1000 6 лет назад
Lol, its ok to have Def Leppard on your back, just not your family crest.
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 6 лет назад
I actually have a denim concert waistcoat from my metal days, it has the Def Leppard Pyromania patch on the back, no problems with this kind of patch.
@Stivusregal
@Stivusregal 6 лет назад
DibberInTheWind hey mate, greetings from Australia, just a quick question, I am not part of an mc but next year I am allowed to start riding, leather vests on there own are fine yes, I have no interest in joining an mc as of yet and am not sure if I will however, I would like to know of patches that are acceptable flags, Harley logo, pins ect I just do not want to disrespect
@TheNostorian
@TheNostorian 6 лет назад
Crest is fine aslong as it not in a 3 piece patch.
@alexdunn3680
@alexdunn3680 4 года назад
a little late to the party but thoughts on the FTW patch?
@b.t.1632
@b.t.1632 4 года назад
Not a problem. FTW is as generic in the biker community as DILLIGAF. It's not club specific, and in fact most clubs don't wear it. Won't be problem for you.
@manlythings1858
@manlythings1858 7 лет назад
Would there be any thing wrong with just a bottom rocker of the place you live and nothing else on the back?
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 7 лет назад
Don't put anything on a jacket or waistcoat that resembles MC patches and rockers.
@blade12385
@blade12385 2 года назад
My grandpa was in the navy
@swifty8538
@swifty8538 3 года назад
I am ex forces and have remembrance badges on my cut also a few other patches that are what I consider compliments my personality not one would I consider is or can be mistaken for a club patch and no one is going to make me take of my army remembrance patches I earnt the right to wear them
@DibberInTheWind
@DibberInTheWind 3 года назад
No patch holder would ever ask or tell you to remove your forces patches/regalia, many in motorcycle clubs served in the forces - not only that but clubs and forces have been intrinsically linked for a very long time. Motorcycle Clubs respect our Armed Forces.
@swifty8538
@swifty8538 3 года назад
@@DibberInTheWind I respect what your saying ty
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