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I really enjoyed being paired with people with levels much higher than mine before the change, like fighting against a tekken god it was the funny thing of quickplay, the random encounters
No. You are wrong. This is a way better match making system. Tekken Prowess shows how much 'Tekken' you know. People ranking up multiple characters to Mighty Ruler isn't as easy as you speak of. They should indeed meet people with the same prowess. Because they know several characters and way more match-ups and string knowledge etc. I know poeple who have been playing Tekken for 5 years who barely are Ganryus. They only know one charater. This is good for everybody. Tanks Namco!
Thank you for responding man I appreciate you giving your very insightful input. While I agree with you on some points about this. Tekken prowess is still not a perfect scale of how good you are at Tekken. You did mention that getting multiple characters to purple ranks isn't easy and I agree with you but I would say that getting 1 character to Tekken God is much harder than getting 5 characters to Might Ruler. And that is my point with making this video is it creates an imbalance for people who play multiple characters. There is no reason Mighty rulers should be going against people who have the same Tekken Prowess as someone who has a main in Tekken God or higher. As I said in the video these changes are big and the main reason is because we still don't know just how much this could affect the new player if people decide to prowess crash on characters that are not their mains. Also, as of right now, many people have a much higher Tekken prowess because they play different characters, which puts them up against people who aren't at their skill level. Queue times for people with high Tekken prowess have also increased significantly since it tries to find people with the same prowess level. I will be looking into this for you guys because it does seem like it's very divided opinions from you guys about this change. I will make a follow-up video about this. I also want to say that this Is what this channel is for to get a discussion going whether you guys agree or disagree with me it's a place where we can find a middle ground. Thank you guys for watching the video and make sure you all have a damn good one!
@@rixxi I mean, i get your point and his. But if Tekken prowess is supposed to represent how much you *know* about the game, doesn't it make sense that someone who gets one character to Tekken God would know less than someone who gets 5 characters to mighty ruler? Im new to this game, and I know I dont know a lot. A big part of Tekken though are the amount of knowledge checks you need to be able to deal with. Frame data and character knowledge are invaluable. Honestly, a lot of times you only lose because you don't know something. To rank up 5 characters to Mighty Ruler means you know 5 characters well enough to use their tools against situations the rest of the cast causes which isn't easy and is respectable. Doesn't it make sense then that someone who is playing a character with 5 other characters at a high rank would be more knowledgeable than someone with just one character at that rank?
@@bkarr8525 The problem with prowess based matchmaking is (1) no one knows how prowess is calculated so we can't say its a good indicator for skill or knowledge (2) Ranked points rewarded is based on rank difference rather than prowess difference (3) significantly increases the queue times for people playing their alt characters. If w,e as a tekken community, decides that prowess is the path to go, then all 3 of these points needs to be addressed.
They did it because of eddy Because if you bought him in the d, l, c, you had to start off from beginner.So a lot of high level people were cherry picking people.That's the reason why they did the update
The way I see the changes it both good and bad. It’s good for legacy players that are already very good at the game and understand the majority of characters they are going to be matched up with people of equal skill and experience. The negative is for the newcomers that are naturally good at video games that get to a higher rank and understand one character but have no experience with others characters outside playing against them. So if your Tekken process 150,000 and you pick a secondary character that you’ve never played with before it’s going to be extremely hard. Ranked matches should go by rank not prowess.
Only noobs and bots are positive with the change... THE RANK SHOULD do the match up.. Ranked is pointless now .. a worse player than you can now be a much higher rank than you.. that is trash guys
YEEEEES FINALLY THE TRUTH exactly why many want This to stay they are afraid to go back to the phase where we were trying different characters and therefore they had to run into someone with good fundamentals and what did they do? oh Simple they ran away all the 1 an doning is over now in my games cos im now playing very serious players and not these losers who just wanna play hooneymoon tekken away from real good players or ofc as they say “smurfs” OFC they want This to stay This makes tekken Way eay easier for Them i just demolished 2 “Blue rank players who only play 2 characters privat match with my Mighty ryler Paul i am tekken King shaheen main, but i decided to see if these Two could really be Blue NO THEY WERE NOT ranked is fucking inflated and these players dont Seem yo realize how easier it is now for they dont have to play us anymore now they have honneymoon tekken version and me on 250k+ Nah im playing a different game atm.
Yeah , this ranked match fumble will cause even more plugging. I play multiple characters because it is boring to play the same character over and over. I can't even hardly get a win anymore. They need to fix so much crap in this game.
I’ve been through rank with three characters my bo is 129k this update made a wide majority of my fights easier. It’s good for the ego but getting to purple facing the same people multiple times it hit or miss some players don’t adapt at all
this change is AWFUL for players from regions with few players, I play in the south america servers and with this change I spend like 2 mins looking for a match, sometimes even more time, before the change I could find a match in seconds.
Anybody saying this is good are red ranks who get bodied often😂😂😂 if i am 250k prowess and want to learn panda and my panda is a garyu and i do not understand my character yet you are saying i have to get penalized and play God of Destructions using their main character because you are trash at tekken 😂😂😂 please Uninstall the game i stopped playing ranked and just find players to add to my friends list that are high ranked learning new characters
this is cope, ranked is a meme and losing to people better than you is what creates Top 8 material. if you cared there 3 other online modes. a lot of us is on the fence of "Is Tekken8 good?" I hear many stories from non-streamers that after they have one good game of tekken, they turn it off. So is that good? or have we created a space where if you get a good outcome it no londer carrys any value?
I’d put 100$ on the people that like this change are dogshit at the game. If you disagree drop your tekken id. bet there’s not one of you in gold ranks
Anakin said the exact opposite of you and I think he's a way smarter Tekken player than you. His Eddy got promoted to God of Destruction after only ONE day. That's was because Eddy was a new release and he started at 'Beginner' and matched against other beginners and green ranks. The next day he said people with similar skill level should be matched together and not by what random rank their current character had. And I totally agree with that.
I agree with Anakin though... and this is untrue Anakin did face a few people in beginner rank while playing Eddy. But someone in his chat said to rank up other characters to Tekken God Supreme so his Eddy would be in Fujin Rank and not have to face people in beginner and green ranks. Which he did by demoting his Feng to Tekken God and then promoting him to Tekken God Supreme. Putting Eddy in Fujin rank by default. You made it sound like he was just trashing beginner ranks the entire time which is just not true. You can find that in this VOD which clearly shows this. www.twitch.tv/videos/2108395505
This isn't news. It's just a rumor. Literally reading reddit posts and tweets and acting like it's straight from the designers. It's entirely speculation. There are other reasons why your matchmaking can "feel off" other than secret nefarious updates. Don't perpetuate stuff like this man. Tekken players complain about Tekken. That's what they do best.
No it's fact. I noticed that too. Matchmaking got a lot slower because I used to get matched against garyus, shinryus, tenryus, all rulers, up to kishin, with various prowess, from 90k to 200k. Now I find players at around 140k prowess only, which is close to my 145k (I was 120. Then played 5 matches and got to ruler, jumped to 145). The experience was more varied and matchmaking was a lot faster. Like a match every 5 seconds fast. Now it takes 15-30 seconds to find a match. And many times it ends up being people with 100ms ping for some reason. The game got significantly worse, with A LOT more lag as the players pool got reduced significantly
@@kato093yes another issue is that it Will even try and find OTHER REGIONS YES you read correctly OTHER it says OTHER sometimes and Idk why but it seems alot of High ranked players depending on where you are will be 60-100 Ping - 1-2 rollback essentially making the set unplayable. This is most likely due to you facing the small percentage of High ranked in your known area and if it cant find someone in that region you selected to match with, it Will do as mentioned above and litterally match you with just about anyone anywhere any region hence the other region. and it does it alot and i mean every second match RENEMBER TO LOOK AT YOUR MATCH OPPONENY DURING THE LOADING PHASE. for me i have EU 2 but sometimes after the change it Will say other
NO!! this is way a better rank system , tekken players crying over everything omg , that is perfect system cause it kills people who plays cheap and ranks up whit bs strats.
This literally contradicts itself, you are rewarded with lower prowess if you play cheap with 1 character. Alternatively, if you play fundamentals with multiple characters you are punished with (1) fighting higher ranked players (2) much longer queue times.
@@johnw1339 This is the whole thing that Will split the new players/ casual scene and High level scene comments like that guy above are insanly delusional they HATE LOSING TO GOOD PLAYERS BUT WTF DO THEY THINK WILL HAPPEN ONCE THEY START RANKING UP????? Its not going to be easier its so delusional Wheres the dedication the love for the game people just want results Nice and quiet no stress etc GO PLAY ANOTHER GAME THEN Ffs i fucking cant with these people
