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Baseball's Steroid Era Explained 

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From Mark McGwire and Sammy Sosa's 1998 home run chase, to Barry Bonds breaking Hank Aaron's coveted home run mark, Major League Baseball was permanently stained by the steroid era. How did it start? How did it end? And how do baseball fans continue to contend with its legacy?
Chapters:
00:00-Intro
00:40-1998
02:37-A Brief History of Cheating in Baseball
03:09-Coke! In the 1980s
03:45-Dawn of the Steroids
05:25-1994 Strike
07:05-Confessions of an MVP
08:45-What's the problem?
11:20-Barry Lamar Bonds
13:28-Juiced
14:28-Baseball's Three Power Brokers
15:58-The League
17:14-Hammerin' Hank Aaron
18:23-2007
19:27-Legacy
21:29-Blame

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@aaronsmith4806
@aaronsmith4806 6 месяцев назад
Politicians took the steroid scandal more seriously than any bill to better millions of lives
@davidsmith-uw2ci
@davidsmith-uw2ci 8 дней назад
Ikr I'm if they spent half the energy helping regular ppl like they do for stuff like that America would be a better place.
@harrisonlinden6552
@harrisonlinden6552 13 часов назад
The only time Washington has seen a piece of American culture being destroyed and actually did something about it
@reesejabs1895
@reesejabs1895 6 месяцев назад
I give Jose Canseco a lot of credit for blowing the whole steroid scandal wide open.
@carlosriutort
@carlosriutort 6 месяцев назад
I can believe Bud Selig is in the hall of fame but the people who make him rich are not.
@scott6828
@scott6828 6 месяцев назад
@carlosriutort: Great point!!!
@TheBatugan77
@TheBatugan77 6 месяцев назад
Agree. Then again, so is Charles Comiskey. By Landis' standard of guilty knowledge, he was worse than the eight players who were banned.
@chuco6010
@chuco6010 8 месяцев назад
Hot take here, but I still think guys like Barry Bonds, ARod, Manny Ramirez, etc should still be in the HOF. Steroids or not, they were still really damn good at what they did.
@kadensadich1311
@kadensadich1311 8 месяцев назад
Couldnt agree more dude! Especially because of the fact that there is people who are in the HOF who used steroids. Like Hank Aaron has fully admitted to using steroids in his Autobiography.
@GreatMewtwo
@GreatMewtwo 7 месяцев назад
I ended up on this video thinking about Jose Canseco's snitching in his book, talking about injecting Raffi and others.
@ronworley1548
@ronworley1548 7 месяцев назад
Not to mention all the players prior to integration.
@330wiz7
@330wiz7 6 месяцев назад
Yea they should be. It definitely helps theres no doubt. But to pretend like these guys were garbage until they started juicing is ridiculous. All of those guys are special special talents. As someone who played it's so unbelievably hard to hit a high 90s fastball let alone mixing in off speeds and cutters in the 90s and hard sliders in the 80s off the fastball. Steroids or not if you put up the numbers these guys did you should be recognized.
@raychapman1134
@raychapman1134 6 месяцев назад
I used to be completely against any steroid guys getting in the hall. After all the information that has come out over the years about MLB actively discouraging the story from getting out and blatantly ignoring the situation to cash in on the players popularity I have changed my position. The MLB had no problem with them doing it until the fans found out and the reporters who vote on the hall also ignored what was clearly occurring right in front of them so trying to act high and mighty now is just disgusting.
@ZeRo-bx7lp
@ZeRo-bx7lp 8 месяцев назад
Barry Bombs was a HoFer even before steroids
@kushclarkkent6669
@kushclarkkent6669 6 месяцев назад
Yeah his numbers blow my mind every time I pull em up. The man legitimately had TWO primes.😂
@helix9268
@helix9268 6 месяцев назад
He's definitely a Hall of famer without the steroids it's a shame he used them. 💰 that's why
@josephbarkley3301
@josephbarkley3301 6 месяцев назад
True. Even before steroids he was one of the greatest players of all time.
@andrejamison2723
@andrejamison2723 6 месяцев назад
​@@fredjonestowns4213nope. Because Griffey did it without
@WARS187
@WARS187 6 месяцев назад
@@andrejamison2723 The Kid Was The Best Why Did Manny Have To Take Estrogen And Fkk His Name smh
@robertbluestein7800
@robertbluestein7800 6 месяцев назад
Wonderful perspective in this video. I wrote an article for BleacherReport in 2012 that led to me being banned. But, the story is still up! It’s called “Rethinking the asteroid Era” and I wrote it! It was highly unpopular at the time. But one thing I pointed out was that 24 NEW stadiums were built in Bonds career, every one of them brought the walls in by an average of 10 feet. Assuming that Bonds gained from this, by even 15 HRs per season, he is then at 135 less than his career. (9 seasons x 15). Suddenly there are more factors to the controversy today. One final note… The plaques on the wall in Cooperstown have the names of players did their part to keep baseball segregated. If we are going to decide that steroids are enough to keep certain guys out of the Hall of Fame, how is it possible to have Cap Anson, Ban Johnson, and Rogers Hornsby’s plaques up on that wall now? Who REALLY caused more damage to the game?
@otaviofrn_adv
@otaviofrn_adv 6 месяцев назад
are they (Anson, Johnson and Hornsby) branded as such? Because if they are, this might be a solution for the steroid era players
@derricktalbot8846
@derricktalbot8846 6 месяцев назад
CAP ANSON!!!! what a fkn CVNT! One of the most influential players of the time... and by far the biggest fkn scumbag that ever got shat out of a crackwh0res ruptured fetid f-hole!! I gave up baseball the instant Barry Bonds did not get into the Hall of Fame.... not a single game since 2014 we now call it an era.... but treat it as though we ALL didn't get in on the action. More fans, bigger stadiums, more tv money, more more more MORE. There is not a SINGLE player during that era that did not have their game affected by roids.... did not have their stats affected somehow by a teammate who was on the juice.... probably while rolling in the snow! Wow Robert!!! you really know how to set a guy off, eh? Rereading your article after so many years.... Yes Robert.... I am still seething at how righteous we get to be after the fact.... for some things of course! Every time i make this argument "either admit Bonds, or remove Anson. There is no middle ground." I get to a point where I walk someone right up to the edge of agreeing that some circumstances are ok to overlook.... then? because I am Evil and refuse to lose this argument I drop the Hard-R-N-Word... it is such a jarring and violent turn in civility and mood :) There isn't a way to agree to that without tossing out the entire argument on their side. it makes my point perfectly, that if me saying that is NOT OK, then how is the segregation era OK? Opp: "Sure, I'll grant you that some circumstances can and must be overlooked. But not steroids. It is 'too important'/cheating/dishonourable/blahblahblah" Me: "But Not *******" Opp: Otavio.... it would be objectively true to say that if Cap Anson had his head split open by an axe before that season... this world would have been a better place. Sure, someone else may have tried to pull the same stunt.... but they would not have been as influential as Cap was. I know, I know Octavio.... yes, I am Evil, and I have been fighting dirty this entire time for one single issue in a game i used to care about..... but we all dont need to fight dirty.... pick up the cause.... "Bonds in or Anson out. There is no middle ground." Help
@2K9s
@2K9s 6 месяцев назад
Boom!!
@baileyayyy5085
@baileyayyy5085 6 месяцев назад
having roids exclude you from the hof and overt racism not is actually insane
@derricktalbot8846
@derricktalbot8846 6 месяцев назад
@@baileyayyy5085 JOIN THE FIGHT!
@ptythefool
@ptythefool 6 месяцев назад
Matt Williams had 43 homeruns, not 54 in 1994 @5:34. Not a big deal but he was pretty much on pace for 61.
@WARS187
@WARS187 6 месяцев назад
Ken Griffey Jr. Turned Out To Be The Best He Could Only Bench 175 lbs Dude Had Bat Speed meets Timing
@brianferstle6369
@brianferstle6369 5 месяцев назад
I think he and his dad played together
@user-hk3hl2kz4z
@user-hk3hl2kz4z Месяц назад
Wow I can finally say I can beat a pro at something 😂
@00ghostcobra
@00ghostcobra Месяц назад
@@brianferstle6369 Yes they did..
@davidsmith-uw2ci
@davidsmith-uw2ci 8 дней назад
They did play together and they even hit back to back home runs.
@greenleader3520
@greenleader3520 6 месяцев назад
Honestly; it was the most exciting and entertaining era of baseball.
@Maxfr8
@Maxfr8 4 месяца назад
Right !? Too bad isn't wasn't authentic.
@greenleader3520
@greenleader3520 4 месяца назад
@@Maxfr8 it was still awesome
@travismcnamara8919
@travismcnamara8919 6 месяцев назад
You can definitely hit and throw harder and also run faster on coke. It also heightens your focus until you hit a tipping point where you just become jumpy.
@raddimusmcchoyber3362
@raddimusmcchoyber3362 6 месяцев назад
Likewise amphetamines.
@georgesouthwick7000
@georgesouthwick7000 6 месяцев назад
I can’t recall a single player who was as good after he stopped using cocaine as he was when he was using.
@9999bigb
@9999bigb 6 месяцев назад
Look at the 60s and 70s, they used to use Greenies all the time. Greenies were amphetamines. They used to put them in the coffee in the clubhouse. "Do you want ledded or unledded coffee" was a thing that people used to ask.
@JG54206
@JG54206 6 месяцев назад
There isn’t any evidence to demonstrate that you could throw harder or hit a ball harder. In fact studies have shown that cocaine and amphetamines actually tend to decrease measurable performance in terms of things like velocity of the ball either thrown or batted. What they can do is enhance a players focus and their perception of their abilities. Baseball is an extremely cerebral game where confidence (I.e. perception/confidence of one’s abilities) plays a huge role. I’ll entertain an argument that those factors make it a PED but it’s kind of stretching it comparing to something like steroids which actually have measurable effects on pitching or exit velocity and raw strength. Cocaine and amphetamines are basically like having a really convincing hype man living inside your head that constantly affirms your abilities to you and makes you supremely confident in what you think you can do. There’s also the effects of enhanced ability to focus on specific tasks that can be mentioned but by that same token one could argue that techniques like hypnosis or meditation could be “performance enhancement”. It really gets into semantics at that point. Make no mistake, players like Doc were not the same without blow, but it doesn’t actually make him throw harder or increase his spin rate or anything like that. It just makes someone hyper focused and very confident which can be very effective for someone who already has a lot of natural talent and ability. There is also a flip side with steroids where they don’t do anything for a players focus or concentration and simply can’t make someone able to hit a major league fastball if they can’t hit it to begin with. It can just make someone who can already hit a major league fastball hit it much harder.
@xx7legion7xx99
@xx7legion7xx99 6 месяцев назад
My favorite was Palmeiro pointing his finger saying he never rook then. Then the orioles owner said he would take Canseco to court and sue for defamation for palmeiro but he declined. 6 months later he tested positive for steroids and vanished from the game.
@dontdoittoyoself6786
@dontdoittoyoself6786 6 месяцев назад
I always saw it as something a lawyer told him to do. He even turns away as if he couldn’t hold the lie.
@thomaslynch1853
@thomaslynch1853 7 месяцев назад
Frank Thomas was not rumored and spoke openly against it his entire career. He also never had an absurd 50 homer out of nowhere year. He was the definition of consistency. So get those facts straightened out in an otherwise decent video.
@kushclarkkent6669
@kushclarkkent6669 6 месяцев назад
Yep! He was The Big Hurt for heaven's sake! The man has always been massive. Just look at pictures of him at Auburn lol.
@rowdyghost4713
@rowdyghost4713 6 месяцев назад
Lol you know how many people “speak out against it” who were clearly on it? Don’t be so naive. The fact of the matter is your favorite baseball player from the 70s all the way through the early 2000s likely took illegal PEDs or stimulants. It’s something that is widely spoken about and widely known. So to sit up here and say “oh he openly was against it” it’s all fluff dude.
@dltguitar6532
@dltguitar6532 6 месяцев назад
now he pushes those weird commercials for testosterone boosting/boner pills so I wouldn't be shocked if he used steroids back then lol
@Jobuwins92
@Jobuwins92 6 месяцев назад
Lmao so naive. I love it though. Never meet your heroes
@djquinn11
@djquinn11 6 месяцев назад
They were all juicing
@LeglessLion
@LeglessLion 6 месяцев назад
I've never heard of anyone accusing Frank Thomas of steroids
@stevesyverson8625
@stevesyverson8625 6 месяцев назад
You are correct. Frank Thomas will always be one of my favorites. Not because of his physical stature. He is a man of character, and will remain so in my eyes.
@mlwilliam213
@mlwilliam213 6 месяцев назад
I remember watching McGwire refusing to talk about the past while everyone else denied everything. He got vilified for it, but I always thought it was kind of admirable. What’s done is done by that point and he couldn’t go back. But, he refused to lie. He admitted it without admitting it. There’s something to be said for a man who has every reason to lie but cannot morally do it. Probably a pretty good dude.
@chunkymonkey428
@chunkymonkey428 4 месяца назад
He couldn’t lie, but he could cheat? Weird moral structure.
@caleblawrence7105
@caleblawrence7105 4 месяца назад
Nothing was admirable about him refusing to own up to his own wrong doing and avoiding accountability.
@michaeldequatro1012
@michaeldequatro1012 6 месяцев назад
The last thing you said is so true. Some of these records will never be broken :(
@iskander0725
@iskander0725 6 месяцев назад
I'm just going to state this before I watch. If Bud Selig is in the MLB HoF, Barry Bonds, Mark Mcgwire, Sammy Sosa, and ALL of those legendary cheaters should be HoF'ers too. Simply put, that chucklehead not only knew but encouraged steroid usage with his cover ups and defense of all those players one time or another.
@Whitegorillaboy
@Whitegorillaboy 6 месяцев назад
Frank Thomas was a 6'5" 270 pounder who didn't need PEDs. But neither he nor anyone else could get his numbers without his freak natural size. He was a first baseman, couldn't play any other position, and couldn't run the bases. He was strictly a hitter who could only play first or DH. Steroids were used in BB because its players mostly weren't dedicated strength athletes who trained in the off-season on power or footspeed. It took me 6 years and a 20 lb weight gain to reach a natural 400 bench press, after which I could hit baseballs 400 feet. Pro baseballers didn't want to work that hard so they used drugs to get there faster. Now baseballers all hit the weight room from high school on, so PEDs are not as necessary.
@somekindaguy100
@somekindaguy100 6 месяцев назад
Took you 6 years (well done by the way) 6 years on 20 million a year ,that is why they use .Do it all in one off season and maintain it and your rolling in the money .Effort is still there but they don't have 6 years to hit their peak and quite frankly I don't blame them
@user-hk3hl2kz4z
@user-hk3hl2kz4z Месяц назад
400lb bench nice
@richardkenny3837
@richardkenny3837 6 месяцев назад
Tony gwynn was always a remarkable contact hitter. He never had a lot of power if he was on roads his home run totals would have quadrupled.
@JohnSmith-zx1bg
@JohnSmith-zx1bg 6 месяцев назад
Barry Bonds also had the most BODY ARMOR ever allowed. And he had the only body armor WITH A HINGE, allowing him to swing on the same plane EVERY TIME. It went from his shoulder to his wrist and he hung it over home plate. This was the first time in 130 years something stood between the pitcher and the hitter. Pitchers could NOT get Bonds off balance or worried about getting hit. This helped Bonds waaaay more than the steroids did, and the steroids helped A LOT.
@Shoprestorationthe
@Shoprestorationthe 6 месяцев назад
I’m a Barry Bonds fan and supporter, but this comment is just dumb.
@JohnSmith-zx1bg
@JohnSmith-zx1bg 6 месяцев назад
@@Shoprestorationthe Clearly you dont understand the intricacies of baseball. READ THIS, IT WILL OPEN YOUR EYES. insidesportsgeek.wordpress.com/2007/08/07/barry-bonds-hr-record-tainted-by-elbow-armor/
@evanfunk7335
@evanfunk7335 6 месяцев назад
Then why dont others use it and get his results? Dumby
@DarrylBarnes
@DarrylBarnes 6 месяцев назад
McGuire hit 49 his rookie year weighing 186 lbs..McGuire simply went from hitting 450ft home runs to 500 foot home runs regardless he was putting term over the fence. Maybe the PEDs helped his shitty back. The only thing that increased was the number of games he played. He was hitting home runs at the same avg per at bat his whole career.
@craiganderson4243
@craiganderson4243 6 месяцев назад
Bullshit he was 190 maybe in the 10th grade!
@tessp100d4
@tessp100d4 6 месяцев назад
Canseco was the only one who boldly told the truth. And he was blackballed.
@Jobuwins92
@Jobuwins92 6 месяцев назад
A part 2 is needed. Heck maybe even a part 3. So much missing.
@gliiitched
@gliiitched 6 месяцев назад
What I find weird about this is that barry bonds is the face of the steroid era when it very well could have been Canseco, who literally needed them to get into the league or Lenny Dykstra, who actually did heinous shit with the power his career gave him.
@JG54206
@JG54206 6 месяцев назад
Barry Bonds is definitely a victim of media bias against him due to his adversarial relationship with reporters and journalists as well as the fact that he is the guy broke historic records. Strangely enough McGwire and Sosa who also broke the single season record aren’t the target of such ire from many fans or reporters, largely because they had a better relationship with the media. The main reason he’s the villain is his attitude and relationship with the press, and other players who have said he was incredibly selfish. Clemens (to a lesser extent) is also seen as a villain by many. He didn’t really have a bad relationship with the press but many other players couldn’t stand him.
@cleganebowldog6626
@cleganebowldog6626 8 месяцев назад
To say the fans are to blame for steroids is similar to when modern news media tries to claim that it's viewer desire that has lead to the polarization of networks. Bullshit, just because you can exploit tendancies of your fans to make things worse, doesn't mean the viewer is to blame. I strongly disagree with the end of this video.
@timhall5382
@timhall5382 7 месяцев назад
He also says fans didn't like players using steroids that's one of the reasons it ended then says way more people watched during that era. He is obviously a little kid but the double talk and hypocrisy in this video is amazing.
@otaviofrn_adv
@otaviofrn_adv 6 месяцев назад
but you don't deny it was a tendency... actually it was a major one. If you don't think someone wasn't going to exploit, you're drinking the kool aid. Giving people what they want always work
@flame-sky7148
@flame-sky7148 6 месяцев назад
I'm glad you covered the pitchers juicing too. You wanna know why Alex Rodriguez doesn't have 700 to 800 hrs? It's because testing was in place and he got busted twice thus serving two suspensions. You don't have to wonder about putting an asterisk by his numbers. Matt Williams had 43 not 54, and Griffey Jr. had 40 before the strike. It was a great year, and it was going to be better. Again, how do you cheat a test, when there is no test? Baseball waited too late for testing.
@chamuuemura5314
@chamuuemura5314 6 месяцев назад
So you’re saying that A-Roid took PEDs? I’m shocked!
@justvibing2497
@justvibing2497 6 месяцев назад
He only served one
@flame-sky7148
@flame-sky7148 Месяц назад
Correct, but he was suspended 211 games, which is more than one season. First PED offense is 80 games, a second one is 162 games.
@georgesouthwick7000
@georgesouthwick7000 6 месяцев назад
Not to defend Bonds, but it was common knowledge in MLB at that time that steroid use was massive. Bonds believed, and rightly so that he was better than both Sosa and McGwire, but they were getting all the publicity, thanks to their steroid use. Therefore, he made the decision to start using.
@aaronsmith4806
@aaronsmith4806 6 месяцев назад
Yeah, everyone knew. Nobody cared because ratings were off the charts! ESPN had content every night with the races.
@Ninjersey1
@Ninjersey1 6 месяцев назад
Yeah but bonds took HGH and other crazy designer steroids he and McGwire transformed into mutants
@Blokewood3
@Blokewood3 6 месяцев назад
But Bonds was a successful player already. Using drugs because other people got attention from the press is very petty.
@rogerj21
@rogerj21 6 месяцев назад
Wow man...what a great video 🔥 And yes we all have the blame and the players where the only ones paying for it.
@standepain
@standepain 6 месяцев назад
Newsflash. Steroids never went away.
@dospostmann9361
@dospostmann9361 6 месяцев назад
Barry bonds is the biggest trash player to ever take the field.... it was the way he treated fans and media not the fact that he was juiced beyond belief
@drjoseed
@drjoseed 6 месяцев назад
Loves this video, keep it up
@RRR-ox9ud
@RRR-ox9ud 6 месяцев назад
Shows you how dominate "The Kid" was. Dont blame the lifelong fan, blame the casual. Some of my favorite baseball games of all-time rarely hit the over.
@flame-sky7148
@flame-sky7148 Месяц назад
There are three categories to this enigma. 1. There are guys who juiced that got caught failing a test ( A-Rod, Manny Ramirez, Palmeiro, Braun). 2 There are guys who most likely used but never failed or took a test like (McGwire, Bonds, Clemens, Sheffield). 3. There are players who were highly suspicious but are in the HOF like (Pudge, Ortiz, Bagwell). Frank Thomas was never suspected of juicing. By the way the first juicer in baseball's HOF was a pitcher by the name Pud Galvin, as he used the Brown-Séquard elixir (Look him up).
@humanbeing2420
@humanbeing2420 7 месяцев назад
Len Dykstra used steroids??? I'm shocked.
@toddwoodward9451
@toddwoodward9451 6 месяцев назад
Yes Frank Thomas and Ivan Rodriguez were accused, but it was never proven. They both completely deserve their spots in Cooperstown.
@jaredbrinkman3343
@jaredbrinkman3343 6 месяцев назад
ivan rodriguez was guilty af. canseco himself said he did and that man has an insanely good track record on that. thomas is innocent
@hectorlumbagoCringe
@hectorlumbagoCringe Месяц назад
Nice work
@edwardwong654
@edwardwong654 6 месяцев назад
Who was that Redsox guy in the blue jersey at the beginning of the video?
@edwardwong654
@edwardwong654 6 месяцев назад
Yeah I think it is nomar garciaparra - aka the Juicer.
@zendoargos4988
@zendoargos4988 6 месяцев назад
Barry Bonds was one of the all-time greats before he ever juiced. His ego was even bigger than his swollen head though and wanted the accolades that other players were getting so he went from one of the best to ever play to absolute 'God-mode' for a season or two. It was unfair how good he was when he was on the juice. Bonds never needed it but took it anyway, that's why I personally dislike him. Compared to a guy that was trying to get to the bigs, Bonds, McGwire, Sosa, Clemens were all super star players that got greedy, but if you can't beat them...join them...and then beat them in a steroid fueled rage. I also like how people tend to gloss over the bowls of "greenies" and other amphetemines that were common in clubhouses during past eras of the game. They might not help you hit the ball 500 feet, but they can help you hit the ball in the second game of a double header after a night of drinking so they can't be ignored. The previous eras weren't clean, even if they didn't have steroids.
@ptythefool
@ptythefool 6 месяцев назад
'God mode for a season or two' was 4 consecutive seasons (01-04), 5 if you want to include 2000. You don't build up fear by only popping off once or twice, its a culmination of sustained excellence. A good example is sammy sosa, even though he was hitting 50-66 homeruns a year for 4 consecutive seasons, he wasn't really respected or feared until maybe the final season. And even then, he probably wasn't because you could still get him out. He was striking out a lot. (150-175 a season) As for the other stuff, bonds unintentionally kind of ruined baseball for me. Its like watching prime tiger woods or rodger federer.. once you see excellence, everything else is ordinary. Everyone loves mike trout and ohtani and I'm just like... meh. Even aaron judges 62 was somewhat underwhelming, he needed so many extra plate appearances with shenanigans of being put 1st or 2nd in the order. And yes cheating has always been an issue in baseball, but no one seems to care unless it has a significant impact IE astros sign stealing or players actually getting an advantage which led to records being beaten/tainted. They should let steroid users into the hall of fame. Its a museum to tell the history of baseball, not some sacred squeaky clean record keeping place.
@stingrey1571
@stingrey1571 6 месяцев назад
in 1998, bonds had a mvp caliber season. NO ONE remembers that because everyone was fixated on sosa and mcgwire. i dont blame him at all for juicing.
@XxCorvette1xX
@XxCorvette1xX 6 месяцев назад
How do you know Bonds knowingly took steroids? There’s no proof
@choosecarefully408
@choosecarefully408 4 месяца назад
*That's* the effing _POINT!!_ It's impossible for someone _not_ on 'roids to play every day _AND_ hit the gym. So Everyone Knew that McGwire & Co were cheating. & Bonds was *getting overlooked **_because OF_* cheaters. & you the fans want so desperately to cheer on people with Successful Stats that whether or not they work to earn them didn't make a difference to *you!* & now you're trying to blame Bonds? Which _is_ it? _Is_ it bad for *him* to use steroids or _DO_ you want to praise players who do?
@astralflick
@astralflick 5 месяцев назад
I simultaneously hold the opinions that Bonds was one of the best players of all time, and that Aaron still has the home run record. I can understand arguments for and against Bonds in the HOF.
@thomaslemon3971
@thomaslemon3971 5 месяцев назад
That’s exactly how I feel. So torn…because Bonds had an amazing batting eye/plate discipline, mechanically perfect swing, and a very high baseball IQ. But he roided up to such a cartoonish level that you can’t take his records seriously. It was so beyond obvious that he was cheating. Mr. Henry Aaron was (and is) the MAN.
@rustyapellido4611
@rustyapellido4611 6 месяцев назад
excellent video!
@randallmartin2508
@randallmartin2508 6 месяцев назад
Matt Williams had 54 homeruns in mid August? Wow! I remember him having 43, but I’m watching this on the internet so it has to be true.
@derricktalbot8846
@derricktalbot8846 6 месяцев назад
HOLY JEEPERS! Thanks Randall!❤🤩❤ I would have gone my entire life thinking it was only 43 until you let me know that the internet is right. This is going to save me SOOO much time..... I got to hurry now and pour boiling ginseng and juniper oil in my ear to cure my tinitis!!!! LOVE YOU MAN!🍻🦫🍁❤
@user-hk3hl2kz4z
@user-hk3hl2kz4z Месяц назад
It’s a multi-faceted issue that is not cut and dry; you did an excellent job presenting alternative perspectives. To me I feel the MLB enabled the steroid era by not implementing testing until a decade after steroids were officially banned. I feel the commissioner (who has wiped his hands of the situation entirely) should either be removed from the Hall of Fame; or the dope legends should be inducted perhaps with an *
@michaelrousey7418
@michaelrousey7418 6 месяцев назад
They should be thanking those players because they saved baseball.
@stoneymcneal2458
@stoneymcneal2458 6 месяцев назад
The steroid generation saved nothing
@carykingiv9569
@carykingiv9569 6 месяцев назад
Bonds used a topical cream that didn't enhance or juice up his swing. He used it like anyone would to heal some light injury. It ain't at all like the regimen that is used to gain strength and bulk.
@evanfunk7335
@evanfunk7335 6 месяцев назад
Lol he literally ballooned up and became a muscle monster. Topical cream...
@voicevitality7197
@voicevitality7197 6 месяцев назад
Did you say Tony Gwynn or Tony Glenn?
@michaelrousey7418
@michaelrousey7418 6 месяцев назад
Do you realize that Barry bonds never tested positive for steroids? MLB knew all about it. And when they got caught, they put the blame on certain people that they didn't like. I know somebody that played during that time. And he said 1 year they barely had a Wait room and the next year they had a huge weight room.. MLB knew what was going on.
@andrejamison2723
@andrejamison2723 6 месяцев назад
Yes he did
@michaelrousey7418
@michaelrousey7418 6 месяцев назад
@@andrejamison2723 Where was this?
@somekindaguy100
@somekindaguy100 6 месяцев назад
​@@andrejamison2723no he didn't .....ever .
@megatron3859
@megatron3859 6 месяцев назад
@@michaelrousey7418 He tested positive for Nandrolone and Methenolone. The test might have been anonymous but a high enough percentage tested positive which triggered regular testing. Later the names were leaked. He's still greatest baseball player i've ever seen.
@proofessor8062
@proofessor8062 6 месяцев назад
@@michaelrousey7418 you dont even have to look outside of baseball stats to see when he started seriously roiding. i like bonds but you are just being disingenuous
@justvibing2497
@justvibing2497 6 месяцев назад
It saved baseball super exciting times for baseball. Blame jose. Also sammmy still to this day said he didn't juice. Truly shocking. Great vid
@fliplife67
@fliplife67 6 месяцев назад
The funny thing about that ERA is how KC Royals team leader in homers in there frans history was only 36 in a season which was set in 1985 but didnt get surpass until 2017.
@d4c_reznor470
@d4c_reznor470 5 дней назад
Considering how many all stars didn’t take steroids in this era like Griffey, Jeter, the great Seattle 8, I’d even make a case for Jim Edmonds, roids weren’t even necessary. Taking drugs isn’t the same as spitballs or stealing signs
@ryandonovan5205
@ryandonovan5205 8 месяцев назад
It was a challenge to see who could have the biggest head and the smallest nuts
@deanw0rmer
@deanw0rmer 6 месяцев назад
Nobody would have cared if Bonds and Clemens hadn’t got involved. Both were assholes. McGwire and Sosa were loved
@Damuthafuccka
@Damuthafuccka 6 месяцев назад
Correction, Matt Williams had 43 hrs 96 RBI not 54 hrs
@stingrey1571
@stingrey1571 6 месяцев назад
no one and i mean no one seems to point out the third player in the steroid era. you had the players, management/owners, and THE MEDIA!!!!! when it was a player they liked, the baseball press looked the other way or made excuses. no one cared until media pariah bonds began obliterating records. then "OH WE HAVE A PROBLEM!" i remember some of the lame excuses writers used for their favorite players. "he's not juicing, he's too skinny/fat." "not him, he's a good guy." "he's not using because he's a christian." (an actual quote from richard justice)
@andrejamison2723
@andrejamison2723 6 месяцев назад
McGwire was not a big guy when he was a rookie. He was a natural HR hitter. He took Andro due to injuries.
@JTCT371
@JTCT371 6 месяцев назад
Just because MLB turned a blind eye to this, due to ratings being in the tank for the time (this era got people paying attention again) doesn't mean its not cheating, and ANY records set should come along with an ASTERISK.
@CaptainHarris-ip2kg
@CaptainHarris-ip2kg 6 месяцев назад
16:38. I've never seen a player get charged for charging the mound, nor spend time in jail nor pay a fine to the city or county, much less get charged for steroid use in the 90s. Integrity doesn't mean a thing if you're not going to enforce the laws regular people have to obey.
@DemetriusEvans-gr9wu
@DemetriusEvans-gr9wu 2 месяца назад
Glad to see the love for Henry
@theman1412
@theman1412 6 месяцев назад
3:31, Is that true???
@BobG127
@BobG127 6 месяцев назад
Frank Thomas regularly lobbied to make drug tests mandatory while he was in his prime. He knew he was clean and knew that cheaters were giving their teams undeserved advantages -- and possibly cheating him out of MVP's and larger contracts. He was the best hitter in decades -- and the best of all time, by some measures.
@JohnnyGingy
@JohnnyGingy 6 месяцев назад
I’m 33 (so not an old baseball fan) I grew up in the steroid era and I think all those cheaters need to stay out of the hall. Aaron is the one true homerun king.
@reynaldoflores0923
@reynaldoflores0923 6 месяцев назад
❤❤🎉
@Turnkey_BM
@Turnkey_BM 6 месяцев назад
PED's literally saved baseball. If you compared these "cheaters" to the other "cheaters" of their era, they were greats.
@dontdoittoyoself6786
@dontdoittoyoself6786 6 месяцев назад
There’s already cheaters in the Hall of Fame and including the guy that signed off on the cheating Bud Selig.
@John-ct9zs
@John-ct9zs 6 месяцев назад
baseball is built on cheating. It's the dirtiest sport in America, despite all the mythology about it being some "clean" sport.
@XxCorvette1xX
@XxCorvette1xX 6 месяцев назад
When did Bonds get caught? How do you know he knowingly took steroids?
@philmaio2335
@philmaio2335 8 месяцев назад
Love the video but please slow down a bit
@andthebeatgoeson69
@andthebeatgoeson69 8 месяцев назад
.75 speed might work for ya. I enjoyed the pace l, some folks talk to slow
@pashanoble9359
@pashanoble9359 6 месяцев назад
Great video. No Aaron Judge? I'm surprised.
@somekindaguy100
@somekindaguy100 6 месяцев назад
He is not on the juice that's why 🧐
@pashanoble9359
@pashanoble9359 6 месяцев назад
@@somekindaguy100 I didn't imply that he was. I was referring to the end of the video when he was talking about the time since. I was surprised he didn't mention Judge and his 62 home runs.
@pillwolak
@pillwolak 6 месяцев назад
Is it true Barry Bonds helmet size increased 2 sizes after he started taking PEDs?
@michaelpoulos7361
@michaelpoulos7361 6 месяцев назад
How do you not know who Matt Williams is….won the World Series w the Dbacks in 2001 and was a coach for them and the nationals…..
@danm9460
@danm9460 6 месяцев назад
Why does this have a photo of Barry bonds with the word cheater next to it? I didn't watch because this seems to lack credibility from the beginning
@stooch66
@stooch66 4 месяца назад
Criminal to include Frank Thomas. He was always huge. The guy was a tight end at Auburn. He never hit tons of bombs because he was an all-around hitter. In fact, he got screwed out of an MVP by Jason Giambi… And, most importantly, I don’t recall anyone seriously suggesting he was using. Could he have been? Sure…but he was outspoken against it and got overshadowed by all those guys….so, I think the evidence suggests he was cheated…not that he did cheat.
@ronmartinelli5772
@ronmartinelli5772 Месяц назад
First of all, I knew my favorite athletes were using ped's! I appreciated all of the milestones that were achieved. It was fun to watch. They should allow and not stop great players from being inducted into the halls of fames in any sport. They are using an * in baseball which is fine. They should not restrict any greats like Barry Bonds. Period.
@bennygarcia1913
@bennygarcia1913 6 месяцев назад
The fans are not to blame.
@sentryogmixmaster
@sentryogmixmaster 6 месяцев назад
mannn i remember that time Lance Armstrong hit 16 homers in one game. i truly believed him when he said he did not use PEDs! 💔
@AnthonyScarpa-er3sq
@AnthonyScarpa-er3sq 6 месяцев назад
Barry Bonds Like him or Not ! He was a Hall of Famer even before the steroids... Steroids has nothing to do with hand eye coordination and he was the best player by far in his Era..
@kevincharles1983
@kevincharles1983 6 месяцев назад
Nolan Ryan must be the exception
@tessp100d4
@tessp100d4 6 месяцев назад
Never, never let them in.
@mattdennis7511
@mattdennis7511 14 дней назад
Matt had 43 in the strike shortened season.
@jimpesca4076
@jimpesca4076 3 месяца назад
Sadly, this confirms what I already knew. I quit having any interest in baseball after the 94-95 strike. I was in shock that the rest of the season was cancelled. I had waited so long for the Yankees to finally be a contender again, and they had already won 70 games at this point. Can't express the delight. My grandson who comes from the St. Louis area rarely talks to me after I stupidly cued him in on McGuire (his "hero"). What a complete joke. A record of 60 home runs held for 30 years, and magickly, we have to ass clowns at absurd levels neck, and neck. Yeah right. The steroid use really kicked in after that point, and as we all know, the "long ball" was needed to restore attendance. Every time I hear of a "new" record, I just smile, but still sad inside in what the game has become.
@RickyWatter32
@RickyWatter32 6 месяцев назад
Damn, after watching this I feel bad for the sport of baseball.
@somekindaguy100
@somekindaguy100 6 месяцев назад
Don't
@RickyWatter32
@RickyWatter32 6 месяцев назад
@@somekindaguy100 I mean it forever tainted the record books…. Forever
@tessp100d4
@tessp100d4 6 месяцев назад
And… it’s was a Federal crime for doing steroids even MLB didn’t have a rule against. It was against the law.
@travishutchison6459
@travishutchison6459 6 месяцев назад
You spelled "greatest and most entertaining Era of baseball since the 60s" wrong.
@fernandoenriquez432
@fernandoenriquez432 6 месяцев назад
The body doesn't naturally grow by just a workout it needs a push plus is impossible to hit the ball so many times without wrist pain now and days you can't drink a vitamin shake without being called a cheater
@stoneymcneal2458
@stoneymcneal2458 6 месяцев назад
Why the question mark on the title? Bonds juiced. This fact is not in dispute.
@00ghostcobra
@00ghostcobra Месяц назад
The '94 strike had taken all of the fans away from the game... It was the steroid era and the homeruns that brought them back. That is just a fact. We may not even have the game today were it not for the steroid era..
@SupplementalSense
@SupplementalSense 6 месяцев назад
For some reason many people are under the impression that Bonds did the most steroids or something and that's why he did the best. No, Bonds showed us what happens when an all-time great is enhanced by steroids. Enhanced Bonds is the same thing as a steroid using Ted Williams. Most of these guys in the steroid era were not Hall of Fame material and some not even MLB caliber players without it. But to lump in Bonds, Clemens, and A-Rod with all steroid users is a shame, because they are truly generational talents anyway.
@bdn8161
@bdn8161 6 месяцев назад
Sosa and McGwire weren’t only chasing records, but chasing the best cycle.
@jackhastings9800
@jackhastings9800 6 месяцев назад
Bonds head was normal, then it grew larger then Rosie Odonalds
@wesleyhobbs9
@wesleyhobbs9 23 дня назад
Steroids started many years before Barry bonds was accused of taking any steroids. He was already one of the greatest if not the greatest player in the sport before he got accused. Major-league baseball is the blame for all of this! They knew steroids were being used and they let it go on without doing anything about it. There was literally hundreds of players using them if not more And it was obvious just looking at baseball cards from year to year the difference in the physiques and body size of players that weren’t even well known. Put yourself in Barry Bonds position, if you’re seeing other players, hitting way more home, runs, getting way more RBIs, and this being allowed for many many years by major league baseball, you eventually would get tired of that and most people would start to do it themselves or at least try it. Especially, as they’re getting older. Barry bonds never needed steroids as he has more talented. Any player in history in my opinion, but I can certainly understand if major league baseball was continuing to allow it, and ignore it for hundreds upon hundreds of players, why is he being picked on, why is Barry Bonds being picked on and tormented over this? Even if he did take steroids, believe me, it did not improve his talent or ability to be the greatest at this game baseball.
@sarge420
@sarge420 4 месяца назад
Add Tiger Woods as well. His head got bigger like Barry Bonds’
@voicevitality7197
@voicevitality7197 6 месяцев назад
Humble kid from California. There's a sentence you never hear.
@timwinfree6880
@timwinfree6880 6 месяцев назад
What is sad is barry would have hit 600 with or with out steroids.
@winterpatriot1429
@winterpatriot1429 5 месяцев назад
Just wondering - why’s there a question mark on the thumbnail for the video? That he cheated isn’t a question. 🤷‍♂️ He’s not the only one, but he IS one. *by each of his achievements. *
@rickyrichreacts9667
@rickyrichreacts9667 6 месяцев назад
Barry Bonds is the greatest of all time yet he’s not in the HOF is a god damn travesty
@haydenhatcher9314
@haydenhatcher9314 6 месяцев назад
Idc what people say the serious era of baseball was the best and most exciting time of baseball.
@matthewpulizos3444
@matthewpulizos3444 5 месяцев назад
Never trust the media is the best thing said in this video
@user-xw3vw3nk9l
@user-xw3vw3nk9l 8 месяцев назад
If cold sweaty an freaked out is cool 😎 Then ya wicked cool indeed
@steveralston8837
@steveralston8837 6 месяцев назад
McGwire actually wanted to tell the truth at the hearing. But for some baffling reason, they told him the night before that they wouldn't give him immunity.
@TSgtOzzy
@TSgtOzzy 5 месяцев назад
1st: Barry Bonds never failed a single MLB drug test and my hope is that he files a lawsuit against you and takes everything you own. 2nd: During my 2009 military deployment, I weight lifted 6 days a week, ate 4-5 full meals per day, drank tons of water and gained more than 50lbs over a 6 month period, when ALL of my coworkers lost weight from the intense 120 degree heat and our outdoor activities. This included my head getting bigger in size as my hat no longer fit my head. The military was drug testing us 3-4 times a year back then. I've never taken steroids and I've never failed a drug test. With this in mind, why is it unfathomable for you to believe that a player can workout before and after a game (which Bonds did), have a personal trainer, strict diet and won't gain in size? 3rd: The MLB hall of fame is an absolute joke. It's voted on by sports writers, some of whom have never played the game beyond Little League. Why not the players, the previously elected hall of fame members, the owners? The voting sports writers are a bunch of old men who want their beloved game to stay in the 1920's. Last: David Ortiz was not "suspected" of using steroids, he was busted and suspended for his use. Thus, proving my point that the hall of fame is a joke if he got in but they won't let Sosa, McGwire and the rest in. You still have to decipher whether it's a fastball, curve, slider, change-up, sinker, splitter, a ball or a strike, whether you're going to drive it opposite field up the middle or pull it and whether you can get lift on it all in a fraction of a second. Steroids doesn't help with any of that. My hope is that you are sued immediately!
@robertoagosto3938
@robertoagosto3938 6 месяцев назад
Great video, however, Frank Thomas was one of the few active players during the steroid era that openly denounced steroid usage. Had he taken them during his day, we would be talking about him as the All Time HR leader. He would have ended his career with 800+. He was that good.
@Silver_79
@Silver_79 4 месяца назад
It’s kinda funny….As a kid your parents would tell you that stealing a penny or $100 was the same thing, it’s stealing, it’s the principle…….But as a grown-up playing a professional sport, it’s not the principle, it’s to what extent you violate the principle. In the MLB, NFL & NBA you can “play outside the rules” as long as you don’t play outside all of them and still get into your respective HOF. You can cheat and still be a HOF’er….You just can’t cheat on/about “certain” things……smh
@user-qn2dt2ct1p
@user-qn2dt2ct1p 6 месяцев назад
What was cheated was Barry Bonds, as the National baseball allowed teams to walk Barry Bonds even with the bases loaded. This was the most open discrimination and lack of sportsmanship ever.
@kenwaller676
@kenwaller676 6 месяцев назад
The thing an average person can’t understand is there is no drug that can make you able to hit a ball with a round bat thrown at 90 plus mph.
@user-qj5si6it4f
@user-qj5si6it4f 6 месяцев назад
I can't find one true baseball fan that would say Bonds Should not be in the HOF. That means Cooperstown is being voted by Non-ballplayers.. why? How?
@gallos7129
@gallos7129 6 месяцев назад
Thas bullshit There is no player like Barry Bonds...Hi was a hall of fame before that era 😇
@petermitchell2729
@petermitchell2729 6 месяцев назад
Barry Bonds was hard to like even without the steroids. His stats are amazing, but he had few friends, even amongst team mates.
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