Bastian Schaefer: A 3D-printed jumbo jet?

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Designer Bastian Schaefer shows off a speculative design for the future of jet planes, with a skeleton inspired by strong, flexible, natural forms and by the needs of the world's, ahem, growing population. Imagine an airplane that's full of light and space -- and built up from generative parts in a 3D printer.
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@ogurdima 11 лет назад

Not usual plastic, but advanced composite materials. With 3D printing you can whatever shape you want while in classic manufacturing process there are a lot of restrictions. And if the material is good enough you can get a good part for your airplane/car/gun.

@jmitterii2 11 лет назад

And completely agree with that one! Part of why I doubt it will ever happen (flying cars). It gets hairy with just a small number of aircraft around the airport-- 4 small single engines doing touch and goes, large commercial departures and arrivals every 15 minutes, 4 A10 warthogs and 2 F15's occasionally doing touch and goes and heading out to the restricted area. And smaller single engine and some jets. It gets busy. Can't imagine hundreds let alone thousands in the air LOL!

@Apvatar3000 11 лет назад

There's a shortcoming with this futuristic Air plane - which is " no instant "outer -air bag " that shoots out from specific "key outlets" ( kind of like a parachute ) that helps stabilise the plane in the event of "sky troubles" and helps it glide gently onto any bottom surface. There could be also "long layered air bags" located underneath the plane that opens up to aide in this process. Unless future air plane takes direct hit from a rouge asteroid- all future flying things should be safe.

@shandcunt9455 11 лет назад

I couldn't help but think of Mr Burn's Spruce Moose "Hope in....But Mr Burns....I said Hope in!"

@Ronolade 11 лет назад

Atleast he is a young guy that looks with great hope towards the future and doesn't think that the future is now. Shooting down a idea is to easy. I for once want to see if nanotubes, self-assembling structures, and massive 3d printing works. Btw planes are kinda awesome already, its a flying tube of several tons of metal with movies/drinks.

@jmitterii2 11 лет назад

I think its good for mid late teens to start learning to operate machinery. Gives them an opportunity to gain more experience than someone starting late. I wish I would have started at 16:( instead of getting serious at 23 and finally completed the PPL at 25. Any aircraft using aerodynamics as its means of flying will require much more intensive "drivers" ed course. Unless we find some simple to operate anti-gravity thingamagig.

@D3sertst0rm 11 лет назад

No idea why so many dislikes. The guy's disserting about "what might the future look like with the technologies that just appeared". And I stress the word "might".

@JoelMurphy77 11 лет назад

This is one of the coolest TED videos I've seen yet. Current advancements in technology make this a very exciting time to be alive. The idea of printing electrical and data conduit into support structures is fantastic, so long as those conduits are future resistant, meaning that they don't have to be replaced every 18 months because the bandwidth has demand has increased that much.

@liveforit11 11 лет назад

It would, if an appropriate autopilot software was designed to control the air traffic accordingly. I agree with you if we are talking about individuals piloting their own aircraft.

@WhatTheHEllFTW 11 лет назад

3D printing allows you to build an airplane in a few weeks, and the new materials allows us to make cheaper, lighter and stronger planes...lets get realistic, in like a decenny, or two, being able to have your own room, golfing or even drinking at bar in a plane. Every breakthrough in technology (Printing books, industrial revolution...) brought incredible things, who thought you could own books back in the middle ages? Those who do not learn history are condemned to repeat it...

@Salafrance 11 лет назад

Actually, modern autopilot systems are very effective. Autodrive systems for cars have different requirements - the ability to see the environment, interpret the visual data, and make intelligent decisions. Aircraft don't have to fly around roadkill, loads dropped from the truck your car is following, or itinerant three-year-old children. Much of the data needed by an aircraft is available from weather services, traffic control, via onboard radar or sensors.

@BogdanBelcea 11 лет назад

For the most part he did not say ANYTHING AT ALL. And this is indeed amazing.

@jmitterii2 11 лет назад

After learning about aviation I agree. Not sure what you mean about security though.

@Kimoto504 11 лет назад

You're a shining example of why technology cannot bring a happier future: Less humanity with more technology does not mean good future. Only more humanity, which you sorely lack (though you're surely not alone).

@KingSimminz 11 лет назад

Gotta love the use of the Microsoft Power Point clip art...

@inuysha360 11 лет назад

ETT tubes, after the initial cost, will cost 1/4 of the price of a 4 lane highway and travel at a minimum of 600km/h and for long destination travel at a theoretical 6,500km/h. There is no way planes can or will be as cost effective or have the same consistency.

@dogma741 11 лет назад

It looks like that spacecraft in After Earth. Very organic looking, not surprised if it came with a biodegradable labeling

@Kenchan1337 11 лет назад

if you compare 3d printing to current materials and you state the weight of both it might be smart to also mention the strength for the sake of comparison.

@Bluelemonzz 11 лет назад

he's simply talking about the design of jumbo jets may change due to advancements of 3D printing.. I think. I'm not going to look at it again to make a proper conclusion. Back to random videos on youtube. this is how I pass my time at work. You know you do it too.

@NthPortal 11 лет назад

You could also, like, make the seats comfortable enough for a ten hour trip.

@Battleguild 11 лет назад

I don't trust people even driving a car that has wheels, let alone a flying one. But I do understand the humor of your comment, like where's our personal robot that does everything in the house like in the Jetsons.

@PilotPlater 11 лет назад

the issue with 'flying car' types of vehicles (ie those that the general public uses), would need to be autonomous enough that the user doesn't really have to know what they're doing to fly it. It would have to not be at risk of stalling or ever getting in an unstable condition. It would have to have automatic collision avoidance as well. Even to fly an ultralight, you need significant training. These things are possible, but far too expensive/impractical for consumer products right now.

@JaySee5 11 лет назад

Planes of the past had all those things. FAA regulations make it impossible now for gather areas. Planes used to be a luxury, now they're mass transit. If an airline wants to promote luxury again, they can, but the seats won't be cheap.

@gustavodiaz4968 11 лет назад

Sorry,,I love these futuristic ideas. Because they help us create a future more advanced and better.

@IdleGod 11 лет назад

I like how the entire thing is a window. Does anyone else remember the Comet? Windows are tiny and pathetic for a reason.

@thedevo01 11 лет назад

I don't want to sound cynical, but this is way more intangible and elusive than real, and I'm not saying this because of a lack of imagination. I'm well aware of this technology, and it's actually called 4D printing, because it uses other forces and a completely different concept than 3D printing. This is literally as complex as rocket science, and in the airplane design and engineering industry you can't just state and promise things without having them tested beforehand.

@myamoto13 11 лет назад

Let's wait till they can make such reliable system to auto-pilot cars on a one dimensional trafic. Then maybe we can think of such system with as much reliability in the air (in the air you would also have to consider risks due to unusual wind and such).

@TheLivirus 11 лет назад

Assuming we live in a deterministic universe, we still cannot predict the future with certainty. What we can do is gather the information we can, as accurately we can, and do our best to interpret it, and try to estimate what the future will likely look like.

@jmitterii2 11 лет назад

I agree. Requires much more training. And it isn't like jumping in a car and going. Requires lots of planning: weather, route of flight, fuel burn, TFRs, alternates TPA Rnwys frequencies, navigation: VORs, Avionic GPS (which are screwy), pilotage, etc. I haven't looked at the FARs concerning ultralights recently, last I was aware you didn't unless you plan on land/take off at Class B, C, or D airports, I always thought someone not getting aviation training for an ultra would be nuts.

@PanzarMetal 11 лет назад

Shorter version: 3D printing is great and another person saw that we can use natures design.

@Dokwart 11 лет назад

Well sorry, but isn't the more pressing question at hand how you make those things fly in the future? If not, the virtual golf thing really is realistic...

@tr0llaccount 11 лет назад

When looking to the future we always vastly over estimate our ability to move people and physical materials, and vastly under estimate our ability to move information.

@jitsroller 11 лет назад

Have you ever studied the exponential growth of computing power?

@Robertenglishable 11 лет назад

Though you do have a point I must say that TED does a much better job at keeping away the looney people often shown on Dragons Den. These videos are (for the most part) informative, inspirational and also happen to be very entertaining. The last bit (for me) is not supposed to be the main drive for these videos. I get my kick out of learning something new.

@jmitterii2 11 лет назад

I've always wanted those. On an open road wanting to get back home or to wherever quickly, I and friends have thought how awesome it'd be to suddenly go into airplane mode. After getting my pilot license, I can imagine the challenges and why it hasn't happened yet. Weight, navigation, piloting-flying education (have to be more stringent than getting your drivers license), and communications are not as easy as I had thought. But someday.

@mikeydapilot 11 лет назад

These sort of presentations are always stimulating and interesting, but I think a key element that was missing was the emphasis on what is already being done in the 3-D printing world in aerospace & aviation today, because it is a gamechanger. For example, engine manufacturers are using more 3-D printed components in their new production engines, which typically face high temperatures and rotate at high speeds. That sort of information would make this presentation much more engaging.

@Newconsciousera2012 11 лет назад

After a few years of watching TED videos concerning 'future' designs and amazing technologies such as this, I can't help but to be a little cynical of any of it actually ever materializing into a real world apparatus. Maybe I just don't have enough patience, I want to see these things in our lives ASAP!

@claudioscola 11 лет назад

Started off with the incorrect platitude about the future and then showed a web like structure. Give me strength!

@Trezker 11 лет назад

I don't need bars and stuff. All I ask for is leg room and otherwise comfortable seat. If I also get internet connection and edible food I'm all set.

@Observerx10 11 лет назад

Start with superior ultra lights and light planes, please!

@nemesisbreakz 8 лет назад

I'm a machinist so I hope this doesn't happen for another generation or two because I need my job. I'm sure it'll happen at some point. But right now it is impossible to do this. For one there is too much stress created in 3d printing of metals for aerospace application due to the constant heating and cooling of the metallic particles. Also surface finish is a problem with this technology at the moment.

@JavMT28 11 лет назад

I've always found it fascinating when they talk about adding new features like bars and golf to airplanes, because I feel that as time goes on and planes get faster, we spend less and less time on them...

@MsBitterUnicorn 11 лет назад

No, he actually refers to the growth in weight, not numbers. That is way they plan on making adjustable seats, so they can accommodate overweight and skinny people as well.

@44lucas 11 лет назад

When I did mine - though it's what passes for LSA stateside really - I had to do take all the PPL classes and in flight training the difference was the number of hours flown to practice flying on instruments and didn't fly in C class airspace. Had radionavigation though.

@myamoto13 11 лет назад

My point is such system (automated flying cars) cannot exist on the planetary or country scale. If it ever is released for the public, only few people will be able to afford them. Same for the plane that is described in the video.

@kamcheung08 11 лет назад

no windows. but a transparent polymermembrane. + misleading definition of "top down".

@jmitterii2 11 лет назад

I think the guy was German or some other Germanic language like Dutch or Swedish. He certainly didn't have a French or any Romantic accent.

@MrLukaaaaas 11 лет назад

No future commercial plane will have a golfcourt.

@1schwererziehbar1 11 лет назад

i get the feeling this guy is the son of someone important or rich, and nothing more.

@Sawaelo 11 лет назад

I'd definitely go in that airplane, material reinforced with nano carbontubes are stong.

@myamoto13 11 лет назад

i mean about crashes. flying cars would not work on this area. It would not be safe to have thousands of flying objects in a city and millions of flying objects everywhere..

@64SGH 11 лет назад

Why is it every time I have an Idea a day a week a year later ted talks about it.

@TheMasonator777 11 лет назад

The question is no longer "Can we", but "Should we".

@yurikolovsky 11 лет назад

A flying car is called an airplane, a flying bus is called an airbus

@beernpizzalover 11 лет назад

Because the swept volume of your golf swing would take up 3-4 rows of seats. If you think any airline is going to give up that potential passenger revenue just so you can practice your game. you're crazy!

@D3sertst0rm 11 лет назад

You can "sort of" predict the weather for tomorrow. You can't predict the weather for next year.

@AlexanderZak81 11 лет назад

just a little correction. Our skeleton isn't build on DNA.... it's build on bone (with is actually a material). DNA this the plan. So if you like to compare them airplanes are planed on paper. Oo. And by training our muscles we may change our bones but not our DNA. But DNA is such a cool word. If you can use it in a presentation its sure a great presentation. So nice pictures, wrong content.

@boredashellreally 11 лет назад

I wouldn't be surprised if it came about pretty soon. I mean if you look back 40 years, an average person couldn't afford so much as a, what we now consider a trashy old computer, much less fit it into their house. Today though, they're practically paper thin and most people walk around with it in their pockets. Similarly I don't think its fair to rule out that such systems will be unaffordable by most people. It'll take time sure, but not very long.

@MonkeyKong21 11 лет назад

how can we be expected to teach passengers to play virtual golf if they can't even fit inside the plane?

@44lucas 11 лет назад

You need a license to fly an ultralight. Second, I don not see it as possible to have people using planes as cars, it is quite a bit more demanding than driving a car.

@terencegalland 11 лет назад

what about reinventing the balloon or zeppelin?

@3n3s1992 11 лет назад

Really interesting. But my god couldn't they have let someone else do the presentation!?

@Jayremy89 11 лет назад

Gotta be at least a billion people that would say it is a yumbo yet.

@SamMacgill 11 лет назад

it needs to be at least three times bigger!

@JodsLife1 11 лет назад

6 min isn't exactly a lot of time to list a large amount of empirical evidence

@northcacalacka545 11 лет назад

How about you fellas get the filtration systems down pat to where I and all my fellow passengers don't get the same freaking cold as the dude in 3a. Now that is futuristic.

@jetpaq 11 лет назад

yes, but, my friend, what good is a device in the future, that is obviously outdated before its created?

@jmitterii2 11 лет назад

For Ultralights? What certificate do they call it? I'm just curious and right now too lazy to look it up (oh and with government shut down, FAA website probably isn't working to get me the latest FARs anyways LOL!) Last I read those particular FARs was in 2011 they still had the Sportsman License which allows the pilot fly 1 passenger and they may fly airport airspace besides B < I think LOL! Wait, LSA? Is this Canada? Because I'm talking US regulations, I should have said so to begin with.

@residentflea 11 лет назад

Ted's content and substance has sure gone down hill.

@alexmd75 11 лет назад

Clearly the future passengers will be 300-400 lbs if the current trend continues and will not fit in those seats.

@Yizak 11 лет назад

I don't think he's trying to promise or prove anything so much as explore ideas. You don't need to test something to much depth if you only want to talk about it. Perhaps this talk with inspire others to do the testing.

@Fwuzeem 11 лет назад

A really excellent talk, people thinking real big

@paulc176 11 лет назад

It's just the dragons den now on a larger scale

@Volactic 11 лет назад

I probably wont be able to ride kne of those in my time sadly and im only 14, the reason why i say this is cause when we build this, imagine how much it is going to cost to ride one of these..,

@jmalmsten 11 лет назад

Just waiting for the airplane equipped with the brand new Heuristically programmed Algorithmic computer model 9000. You know. Since they are fool proof and incapable of error, according to reliable sources.

@AverageBosnian 11 лет назад

I need this thing printing me food.

@kmarinas86 11 лет назад

As far as planes as we see them today are concerned, you are correct. However, in twenty years we will see many more advances in nanotechnology and other things that will allow air travel to exist far beyond the next 10 years. I mean, who really thinks that ETT will replace, of all things, hot air balloons, para-gliders, private planes, emergency helicopters, and such? We will see a mix of ETT, planes, and other modes of futuristic transport in the not-too-distant future.

@jmitterii2 11 лет назад

IFR probably does more so than VFR. I know Canada all night flights require IFR, while US we can flight at night under VFR. And I don't if Canada's VFR separation criteria is the same, and airspace classifications on they're general ceilings and speed restrictions etc. If I ever do fly across the boarder to Canada or Mexico, I'd be certainly reading up on their specific rules. My PPL (VFR only) allows it, but most planes I rent the owners forbid crossing into other countries.

@AnonEyeMouse 11 лет назад

Personally he lost me at his opening premise 'we cannot predict the future'. Oh yes we fucking can, that's why we have the word 'predict'. He then went on to predict things for the future.

@levelfivegymnast 11 лет назад

do you no how OFTEN bones break!

@Battleguild 11 лет назад

"Growing" could be considered a nicer word for getting fatter. XD

@tegofido 11 лет назад

Oh it can systematically work, and security wont be an issue, due to the control. remember, the future is not biased, who knows what wil happen, but it can be peered into, if you look into it with the right mind.

@mowlana123 11 лет назад

beautiful design, i can just imagine staying up all night looking at the beautiful stars. hope that becomes a reality soon.

@xijnnijx 11 лет назад

I think the presentation was weak...like most of the comments say. There is something he is getting at that is a great idea, he just doesn't seem to communicate it in the best way. This doesn't take away from the fact that the big ideas of what he's getting at are very awesome. Using biomimicry and 3d printing for prototyping might very well be the future...

@HigherPlanes 11 лет назад

I still don't get the 3d printer deal. Why do we want to make 3d plastic models again?

@Phelan666 11 лет назад

Hold on, let me print it out.

@44lucas 11 лет назад

Over here you can do your rating for Night VFR on ultralights (BTW, when I say ultralights I mean 495 kg 2 seater like the one in one of my videos), plus you can fly all over the place from Portugal to Poland, Norway to Greece, but practically you need to have certification for operating radio in language of a country you fly over or English. Crazy but neccessary here for obvious reasons. The French are especially into this - you fly there, you better know French, lol

@inuysha360 11 лет назад

Not to put a damper on his speech but won't Evacuated Tube Transportation replace planes in about 10 years?

@bbgun061 11 лет назад

I think the quality of TED talks has gone down recently. With so many events all over the world it was bound to happen.

@myamoto13 11 лет назад

yup happy to see some people get what is trully going on on this planet. I mean, come on... Some guy is even speaking about flying cars up there. Good luck with that on a big scale. Those technology are good for films and science fiction. is playing golf when u take a plane really something u want / need to do ?

@CalamityStriker 11 лет назад

Speaking of the future, we still have children starving to death all over the world screaming "For the price of a cup of coffee you could feed me!"

@jfcool10 11 лет назад

It's quite sad. Title was very inviting.

@JaySee5 11 лет назад

This talk is about vision, not information.

@crazzzik 11 лет назад

You would think, right? Except that he started with the same kind of idea that never happened =)

@michaeljames1585 11 лет назад

I was interested up until the point where he showed off the virtual golf. Why do people always go those steps too far when designing?

@djAmiracle 11 лет назад

Why is it impractical to play virtual minigolf on a plane?

@srimansrini 11 лет назад

Good idea. But how long we have to wait to see this dream?

@ultravidz 11 лет назад

It started off interesting and then spiraled into lala land. Can I also imagine something and get approved for a Ted Talk?

@Bestelnik 11 лет назад

The Spruce Moose!

@zyrohnmng 11 лет назад

But what are the long-term consequences of our amazing technological advances? Could overuse of antibiotics accelerate the development of super viruses? Could we become so dependent on technological advancement that when it plateaus, our population keeps growing into a Malthusian population collapse? Direct consequences are usually good, but the indirect consequences are what we need to look at.