BATMAN FOREVER + BATMAN & ROBIN - So Bad They're Legendary 

On set Joel Schumacher kept yelling out before each take “remember it’s a comic” to make sure that it stayed goofy

After hearing Joel Schumacher decided to take the blame for it and not let the crew get hurt by the press though he made a bad movie I think it’s commendable that he defends the people who worked on it and takes the bullet so no one else does

Elvis completely skipping over the fact that when Bane was planting the bombs he'd literally say "bomb" after putting down each one. I still giggle watching that.

I do absolutely love the aesthetic of these movies. It is so overdramtic and cool looking. Every scene looks like a 80s music video.

Just to give you an idea of how derpy Batman Forever was, my 1995 dad wouldn’t allow me to mimic Riddler Jim Carrey because it was “too gay” at the time. It was a glorious time to be rebellious.

"What killed the dinosaurs? THE ICE AGE!" Is such a dumb line, delivered so perfectly. I mean, that's just factually wrong, Mr. Freeze. Can't just take credit for the work that asteroid did.

As a kid, my mom didn't let me watch any batman films... except for these two. She didn't have a real reason why she didn't let me watch Dark Knight or the Tim Burtons, but I just watched these two the most. They may be dumpster fires, but damn are they kinda nostalgic.

*RIP* Joel, despite the criticisms, you did what you loved and did it in you're own style. Have to respect that.

I think WB was lucky that Batman: The Animated Series and Batman Beyond were on the air to preserve the franchise while the movies went downhill and they kept Batman out of theaters for 8 years.

The 90s Batman movies are like the old Superman movies. First two are decent, third one takes a huge nose dive, fourth one is an absolute mess.

"This is why Superman works alone." Dude just casually confirmed a shared universe and nobody bats an eye.

I think I was about 8 when I saw it in the cinema and the scene where Robin hung his clothes up to dry was the most memorable part and it had a real effect on me at the time. I was always a messy kid and oblivious to the benefits of tidying up but I also always harboured a secret fear of losing my family and used to have nightmares about it. The scene comes after Robin loses his family, and he shows Alfred that he's independent and capable and still moving forward just when he's being looked at as a victim. 8 year old me was very proud of him and the memory became a small touchstone for a developing mind and I hoped that I could be that strong and just carry on getting little things done for myself and survive if I found myself alone in the world. Being more present and more tidy and organised and doing inane things for myself because they needed doing helped to make me more capable of dealing with the dreams.

As goofy as it is, I always get a little misty-eyed whenever Freeze takes out the glowing vials and says, "Take two of these, and call me in the morning." His love for his wife Nora and his desperation to find a cure for her disease are the only additions to his lore that no adaption, no matter how stupid, could ruin.

Bob Kane is not the real creator of Batman. He made the name and idea of a guy in a suit, which was a red suit with a domino mask and actual bat wings. The real creator is Bill Finger, he made the real lore behind Batman- the suit, the gadgets, the city, all of the stuff we've come to know, love, and associate with Batman. Bill never gets the credit he deserves

For all the problems these movies had, as ive gotten older i can appreciate them more - i love this version of gotham with all the weird art deco neon light shit going on, i love the hammy acting and how over the top it all is

The scenes between Jim Carrey and TLJ are even better when you know it was just a giant pissing contest between the two of trying to one-up each other.

I think the reason Alfred liked the new robin so much is cause Alfred is an insane workaholic and he took one look at that weird goblin manchild and said "Yes, I'll be busy for YEARS cleaning up after this one". Edit - "Don't fret, I'll always have something in the works" Is both threatening AND reassuring.

I love how villains had escape contraptions built into places they don't own. Like did he have a construction/engineering crew in there a month earlier building an explosive-proof saferoom under the circus arena? It reminds me of that Batman Returns movie where Penguin takes an actual elevator out of the sewers in front of everyone. Who the fuck is building this shit, and even if it was built by someone else previously, how are they controlling it?

This version of Poison Ivy started my love for the character. Her relationship with Harley just solidified it.

I actually like Val Kilmer's Bruce Wayne more, since I always think Wayne is rather cold and jaded billionaire, probably even dead inside. I just thought Clooney's Wayne was too smiley and sweet instead of brooding. Mr. Freeze were really painful, but my oh my Poison Ivy is probably one of the best Batman villain ever IMO!

my mother was crazy about Val Kilmer and other heart throbs from that era, so we went to see these a few times...there was applause for the butt/crotch shots. lol just some 90s mom thirst nostalgia

Say what you will, Schumacher giving credit to everyone involved for a good experience but taking all the blame for the negatives is sweet as hell.

It has to be said that Joel Schumacher was an absolute G of a person with him standing up for his coworkers. Plus the dude was in general a super underrated director imo. RIP

I've really come around to loving these movies. I saw Batman & Robin in theatres as a kid, and loved it. I think as the years go on and see things in the present we don't like, we end up enjoying things from our past more.

i like the theory that the reason batman & robin is more wacky and odd is because the riddler literally took a big chunk of the IQ from the people of gotham so everything is dumber and makes less sense

You got to hand it to Schumacher. He really comes off as a class act. He owns these movies. Made the movies he wanted to make and is sorry if people felt disappointed. Doesn't blame fans, doesn't blame the cast, defends the writer, Takes all responsibility. Defends pretty much everyone besides himself. These movies... are not good. I think he went for something that didn't work out. He's made good movies, just not these two.

God bless these actors. They had to know these were just gonna be shlock. But they bit down hard and gave us absolute gold.

Schumacher was such a legend for taking the heat on everything. I honestly believe he was handcuffed into making a toy commercial and just tried to make it fun for the audience.

They named Duke Nukem Forever after this movie. Kind of fitting honestly.

Elvis, in continuing the Nicolas Cage saga, you've got to check out the Astro Boy 2009 film. Never before have I seen such a nonsensical children's plot balanced with such dark themes - and Nic does some spectacular voice acting in it.

Batman & Robin was one of my favorite movies as a kid because my dad loved it. Therefore, it has no flaws!

"He's being weird with the laundry." "I really like the way he dries the laundry." - Elvis the Alien c. 2022

I honestly glazed over Alfred making the suits for Robin and Batgirl cuz Alfred cares about bruce and doesn't want him to be isolated and alone.

The batsuit isn’t all that strange when you consider the hyper-sexualization you see of women in movies by straight male directors. Dude just thought it was hot and we’re not used to seeing a gay director do the eroticizing we’re otherwise used to in mainstream movies.

Batman Forever is the most late 90s movie ever made. I love it. The whole aesthetic of that movie is so nostalgic to me.

41:31 one thing you probably didn't notice here: Bane gets send to get Freezes stuff Runs through the entire building Cut to Ivy and Freeze with BANE IN FRON OF THE DOOR Cut back to Bane packing everything and running back So Bane ran through the building, forgot what he was doing, ran back, saw Freeze and rembered, ran to his destination and packed the crap in the cart. It probably is just an editing mistake, but the "Bane is dum" version is hilarious.

When looking back at Batman forever and The Batman,comparing the Riddler I think Jim Carrey could’ve played a good riddler but I think it was just too much on being goofy, you had Jacks Joker for example who was goofy but also dark at the same.

No mention that Arnold REFUSED to shave his head so he wore a skincap which in certain frames is incredibly noticeable? Kind of like how the 60s Joker never shaved his mustache.

I still think Debi Mazar deserved more screen time on Batman Forever. She would've been as awesome as Harley Quinn given the opportunity.

“Your entrance was good… his was better” gets me all the time lol

15:00 I think Dick was intentionally trying to get in the cave here. Earlier in the movie Alfred told Dick that this room was the only room in the entire mansion he wasn't allowed in. He was using his ninja monkey skills to try to get into the room before the door shut behind Alfred. Feels more like Dick being a curious little kitty than a "he just happened to land in the Batcave" thing. Super minor but I had to show my super sick paying attention to the movie skills to Mr. The Alien.

Joel’s take on Phantom of the Opera was amazing and visually stunning, I’ll die on this hill

Batman Forever isn't that bad. Now Batman and Robin is another story.

I unironically love these two movies. They're stupid and silly and bad and a lot of fun. All the villains were over the top and awesome.

That comment from Shumacher about loving a movie means you have to be thankful to over 100 people who made it possible, but if you hate it just blame the director, since that is why their names are there, is so wholesome. As janky and campy as they are, I have fond memories of them, and even rewatch them. They remind me of the joy of being a kid when you don't have to worry about every little thing making sense and just enjoying the experience.

the part with Poison Ivy checking her reflection in her pocket knife is my favorite moment in that whole movie 😂

It's actually pretty funny when a guy fighting crime in a bat costume, fighting a guy with an ice gun and a plant-woman hybrid isn't considered serious enough. It's all absurd, really. Not that I'm disagreeing with it's awfulness, it's just funny on an ironic level

These versions are so camp and I will defend them with my life

As a kid, I loved these, saw nothing wrong with them. And then I grew up and realized there was a bat credit card and built in ice skates and bad Mr Freeze puns😂

Missing Fact: According to Val (of Last year), He was genuinely disappointed being on set. Nor the dreams of being Batman, all little more than an act (Val mentions how the suit was very uncomfortable to wear , like what Keaton wore in the first two.)

8MM is one of the darkest movies I’ve seen, because of the honest, mundane and exquisitely-cruel nature that it describes exist within humanity. And Nick Cage is amazing as a troubled and modern-day noir actor, the antithesis of is “classic Cage.”

Oh my, this two movies are sooooooooo sentimental for me so I am afraid to watch it again after all those years. I loved both of them!

Man aside from all its faults, it is still nice to see these behind the scenes clips seeing all the sets. If these movies were made today, behind the scenes would just be nothing but a sea of green.

Oprah Winfrey did an interview with Arnold, Clooney and O'Donnell for Batman & Robin when the movie came out. Arnold made a joke and O'Donnell did a really mocking laugh and Clooney bumped him to tell him to stop. I don't think O'Donnell likes Arnold. For some reason, that has stayed with me for 25 years.

Hot take: I think Val Kilmer is the best on screen portrayal of the character to date. The voice was perfect, the personality traits were great, and his Bruce Wayne was praised for a reason.

All the batgirl scenes from Batman & Robin feel more like imaginary sequences that Cher Horowitz, Alicia Silverstone's character from Clueless is having while day dreaming in class or something. They feel more like the tone of that movie

Honestly I really enjoyed these movies growing up. I loved how it made Batman campy and fun, kind of like the older batman cartoons. I have a lot of nostalgia and love for these two crappy films, maybe its cause the outfits....it's probably the outfits...

Batman forever still is my favorite Batman movie. I love the cheesiness of it and the fact it doesn't take itself seriously, it's just so entertaining. I still laugh out loud at the dialogue in this movie

Dick "landing his ass in the Batcave" wasn't a mistake. He was up on the 3rd floor so Alfred would think Dick wouldn't be able to follow behind him, then Dick did the routine and slid into the silver closet to beat the door closing. He didn't know it was the Batcave, but he was very curious about why that was the only locked door. Elvis is so entertaining, and it's disappointing that he missed something that I realized when I saw this in the theatre when I was 14 years old. Edit: Wait wait wait wait. Elvis prefers George Clooney to Val Kilmer? JESUS FUCKING CHRIST. I don't know if I'll ever recover from this betrayal.

I would like to point out that John glover is the voice of riddler in most cartoon adaptations

Seals kiss from a rose will forever be the real Batman theme song

Whoever did the lighting in Batman and Robin is a genius. My buddy works in stage lighting and never shuts up about this movie.

As I've always said while Val Kilmer played Batman like Bruce Wayne was cosplaying as Batman, George Clooney played both Batman and Bruce Wayne as if he was George Clooney. There was no difference in his portrayal of either. Say what you want about Michael Keaton in the role, he nailed both the Bruce Wayne and Batman sides of the character's personality.

Batman forever remains to this day my favorite Batman movie

I think nips on a suit is by far the funniest thing to add to a suit. Like it's that extra step that makes history and is remembered.

Batman Forever will always be a guilty pleasure. Because of Jim Carrey's amazing campy Riddler, and Tommy Lee Jones trying to keep up with him, but failing upwardly. His performance is so stilted, it's funny to me.

My favorite thing about these movies is that Joel probably designed one of the best on screen Gotham aesthetics ever. the scale, grandiose buildings, the over the top + art deco & gothic architecture along with all the neons it's like cyberpunk Batman without any of the cyber, it dazzled me as a kid & its the prime reason I revisit these movies, it goes banana's on an OLED TV and i know for sure Arkham Knight took inspiration from it cuz a lot of the designs felt nostalgic to me. But i have never and will never give Joel Schumacher any flack for making these movies. As bad as they are i can find enjoyment in watching them & he said himself he didn't mean to make a bad movie he only wanted to entertain and that i was lol. Not to mention it became precursor to some the best Batman movies that have become classics. It's wild to think we got Batman Begins only 8 years after this debacle.

Fun fact; Merridian''s office is the same building as the Red Circle Club in John Wicke. The exterior is the Surrogate’s Court and the interior of the Red Circle Club in that film is the former ballroom of the Edison Ballroom from The Godfather where Luca Brassi is killed..The Edison Hotel still exists mind you but the ballroom has been split off and now has different owners who use it from private events.

I gotta say I think Kilmer was the Andrew Garfield of the Bat-men in that if he'd have been given a better script he could've been the best Bruce Wayne ever. There's leaked footage of deleted scenes that would've allowed his emotional vacancy to pay off as he finally opens up to himself and confronts his feelings and guilt - the title "Forever" was chosen as the movie would've followed his struggle and finally conviction that he'd be Batman, forever. But a lot of it was meddled with by execs and producers after they got so burned from the reception to Returns

R.I.P. Joel Schumacher. He made some of my favorite movies that I watched so much when I was growing up, mostly "Falling Down", and "The Lost Boys".

Not gonna lie....Freeze saying "All right everyone...chill" is the line I remember most about this movie

joel Schumacher seems like a good guy. he stood up for his crew, and took all the blame. im betting he was cool to work with. its a shame he received so much hate for these movies. i loved them as a kid. and now as an adult,i still think they are a lot of fun. movies can be bad, but its important that they aren't boring. and they are far from boring. i cant believe batman and robin was listed as the worst movie ever made by someone. especially when "bobby z," and "in the name of the king" exist. (those are the only 2 movies ive ever watched that i had to turn off and never finished.) and joel Schumacher is 100% capable of making genuinely good/well made movies. falling down is one of the best movies ever in my opinion. and 8mm is really good too. im glad his batman movies exist.

Two-Face is a very compelling character in the comics-a former district attorney who made it his personal mission to take care of crime in Gotham in a whole new way. I have no idea what the Two-Face in this movie is trying.

I honestly didn't mind Kilmer as Batman, I think he had a very reserved portrayal but in a way that's good compared to say George Clooney. I can look at Kilmer and think "That's a moody Batman right there" but I can't look at Clooney Batman and think anything other than "Yep, that's George Clooney" I don't think his style entirely meshed with the goofiness of the movies but I dunno, him being all cold and calculated vs Two Face and Riddler just worked for me.

Well, Schumacher used to be a hairdresser, so whaddya want? But The Lost Boys and Falling down were pretty great...

28:28 Not even gonna lie, by the end of it I was in tears. I'd say they'd need to chill out with the puns, but cool of them to go all in. (Especially since they're delivered by Arnie who just... embraces the cheese)

My ex once met Chris O'Donnell in 2001 while working on Boca Grande at a resort, this particular gig was catering for a wedding that Chris happened to be a guest of. My ex loved the Batman films and Chris was probably the most notable person he had encountered while working there. Anyway, he had occasion to speak with him at some point when Chris approached the banquet table he was taking care of, and so my ex said to him "Hey, you're Chris O'Donnell right?" and Chris said "yeah I am, what's your name?" to my ex replied totally deadpan "I'm Batman." My ex was just trying to be silly, and so he was taken completely aback when Chris shot him a dirty look and said "ya haha real funny, fuck you man" and walked away.. So I guess maybe making those movies was an embarrassment to him by that point.. I think he thought he was being insulted, but that wasn't the intent behind it. Or maybe he was just having a bad night, who knows. He pretty much faded into obscurity not long after the early 00's anyway. I love these movies tho, they are cheesy and fun as hell.

Whelp that batman smile is 100% now a meme haha, thank you Elvis for this hidden gem. Love what you do amigo, Whenever I see a new upload I get all giddy. Keep up the amazing work, we are all looking forward to whatever you do next!

Batman Forever is one of my favorite movies lmao. So many good quotes and scenes

3:48 Batman forever 26:16 Batman and Robin

RIP Joel Schumacher, you weren't good at Batman but you did some great stuff (The Lost Boys is genuinely great, and 8mm has problems but I love it)

The only thing I could think of during Batman Forever was: Why is Two Face still the villain? He does not need to be this big a threat to the city?

Bro is so petty he shoots people into space instead of just freezing them instantly, I love it

It’s probably bad how hard I laughed when two face said “Nothing like a bad case of gas!”

I actually like Forever, I think it’s an underrated movie. Sure it’s silly, but unlike Batman and Robin it actually tells an interesting story about Bruce Wayne. It’s one of the better Batman movies if you ask me.

Every single one of these review videos is a gem. I rewatched all of them countless times and everytime a new one comes out it just makes my day a lot better. Thank you for your work and uploads ! ☺️

@Elvis The Alien what happened to the 365 2 video?

These two Batman movies are my guilty pleasure, sure they not like the other ones but it really enjoyable. I watch these a lot more, I do not hate them at all.

The soundtrack for each of them went pretty hard though.

This was absolutely hilarious and entertaining. As for reviews, definitely LOTR and Matrix Trilogy but also include the three Indiana Jones movies

18:49 i literally died from laughter

I recently watched them again and I think I love them even more!

This was also the time when Val Kilmer revealed the massive ego he had. Even the Dark Knight has his ups and downs. Alfred was the only character in these 2 films that was good and even tho Michael Caine is the near perfect Alfred. It was the actor in these films that brought the loving/caring surrogate father-figure that made Alfred an icon.

I honestly enjoy the Schumacher Batman movies more than anything that Snyder did with the character.

18:37 Was that a Scooby laugh? I think someone has earned themselves a Scooby snack.

I’ve just discovered your videos, I LOVE them, so good !

I remember getting a glow-in-the-dark Riddler question mark t-shirt from the theater when this movie came out. I thought it was the coolest thing ever. ..

Robin should have said, "I'm not going to kill you. But I don't have to save you."

When Robin is doing his somersaults and hanging off the curtains he was actually trying to get down to the ground floor quickly so he could get into the entrance to the bat cave. He saw Alfred going inside there and was trying to figure out what was being hidden. Not saying the movie was any good mind you. But that had more intent then you seem to have picked up on

I think Uma Thurmon as poison Ivy gave me a joygasm back in the day. My brain fused both movies somehow and I forgot Val Kilmer ever played Batman. Course I only watched the two movies once when I was a kid on a plane ride when the movie options were simply headphones or no headphones. You should review Brian Yuzna's "Society".