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BATTLE OF THE 4TH GEN MAIN VOCALS - vocal analysis 

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@jhayruwu
@jhayruwu Год назад
the funny thing about this is that NMIXX sullyoon could also make it to this ranking. the vocal line of that group is just insane.
@darkmontero6131
@darkmontero6131 Год назад
sullyoon AND kyujin cause they're almost the same technically
@SlayerJoe
@SlayerJoe Год назад
I think Bae would’ve been a great pick for a lead gen 4 vocalist. I think her voice is so beautiful and she ate Cool (your rainbow)
@Glossyxxbeeeeen
@Glossyxxbeeeeen Год назад
@@darkmontero6131 sullyoon has better lows and belts higher whilst kyujin has better approach
@leedosbf
@leedosbf Год назад
@@Glossyxxbeeeeen not at all… Kyuji has the better lows as her lower register is actually pretty developed for someone of her age and skill set, while Sully’s are actually pretty underwhelming. And Sully a more balanced technique that Kyujin as she is cleaner, fuller, and engages her chest more. Edit: forgot to mention that Kyujin also gets very tight when singing and even sounds strangled at times. I think it’s mostly cuz she doesn’t really take singing seriously (which makes sense cuz her passion seems to lie mostly in dancing and performing) but that lack of interest does manifest itself in a squeezed throat and pulled larynx. Sullyoon is only outclassed by Kyujin in lows.
@amiboacid7183
@amiboacid7183 Год назад
The funny thing is how delusional you are
@yusraibrahim7121
@yusraibrahim7121 Год назад
the vocals of nmixx is literally insane imagine having hard and tiring choreos and singing live too like they are really powerful sullyoons vocals are no joke too
@aloe5107
@aloe5107 Год назад
Now I really want to know how jyp trainers train them lol I want a lesson from them so I can improve my terribile singing ahah
@ereh11
@ereh11 Год назад
​@@aloe5107 they actually are sent to the US to train with Navy SEALs
@mard-e6086
@mard-e6086 Год назад
​@Aloe dunno but I heard somewhere that they run while practicing their singing
@Kat-y_L
@Kat-y_L Год назад
@@aloe5107 probably in a different method than itzy .
@Pats_diary2010
@Pats_diary2010 11 месяцев назад
@@Kat-y_LI heard somewhere Itzy are forced to practice their dance for 6+ hours a day or smth like that
@giabaomaidang242
@giabaomaidang242 Год назад
I agree with NingNing analysis, I don't know but when she performs on the stages, we can clearly see her stage presence and her confidence in her dancing and attitude, but when it comes to live vocal, she looks like she afraid that she will crack her voice, her notes are mostly heady. I hope that she will be more confident in live vocal, she is a promising vocalist with a lot of potentials, I really like her agility.
@shiningyoonie
@shiningyoonie Год назад
Considering how many ignorant kpop fans thinking vocal cracks mean poor technique and calling a vocalist bad for having a few cracking moments, it's understandable that she's so afraid to go all out.
@meganyamk172
@meganyamk172 Год назад
Bro, she confessed that she was nearly blind with one eye... Imagine how hard it is for her dancing properly and singing on a stage when she barely sees anything with one eye... And she still has the best stage presence.
@tapewoerm
@tapewoerm 10 месяцев назад
I think it’s important to also take Aespa’s lack of live stages into consideration. Surely, not singing live often will harm one’s confidence or comfortability in taking those risks when going all out.
@elmerbasig71
@elmerbasig71 Год назад
The fact that other NMIXX vocalists could also be in this list is insane. ❤
@rainbowparadise3124
@rainbowparadise3124 Год назад
also aespa's
@bracy_0
@bracy_0 Год назад
@@rainbowparadise3124 Nmixx and Aespa are such a talented group
@asareirene
@asareirene Год назад
If this video was actually about the best, this list would not exist. Some Nmixx members are better than some on this list
@sekkai_
@sekkai_ Год назад
@@asareirene even sullyoon is above liz although she is below yunjin
@sqdg3
@sqdg3 Год назад
​@@sekkai_sullyon is not that a consistent c-, nor liz so idk sullyon is slightly better,
@darthestaaar
@darthestaaar Год назад
haewon has a fullness/robust quality that is pretty rare in 4th gen, reminds me of older vocalists in kpop, its so nice
@ughgowonsscalpandcrunchyvo4926
this omg! I noticed that for other vocalists, the higher they go, the thinner their voice becomes but for Haewon it still sounds so full and powerful
@darthestaaar
@darthestaaar Год назад
@@ughgowonsscalpandcrunchyvo4926 yes, overall that thinner, small sound is dominant in 4th gen whereas haewon and lots of others in the past sound “hearty”. sangyeon from tbz is a male i can think of that has a pretty uncommon fuller sound in 4th gen as well
@devstruction
@devstruction Год назад
@Chaeerie they both have kind of a soul/rnb sound
@aeivyyy
@aeivyyy Год назад
its probably because she slightly lowers her larynx when belting to truly get a more robust sound
@darthestaaar
@darthestaaar Год назад
@@aeivyyy eh, she sounds “full” throughout her voice, it’s definitely her natural timbre
@rensunlife
@rensunlife Год назад
I really hope ningning becomes more confident singing live because this girls vocals are to die for. I think I kind of understand why winter gets most of the high notes now, I think when it comes to live stages winter is just more confident and goes for the high note whereas ningning tends to take the safer route and does it in head voice. I hope in the future ningning will show us a stage where not only is she confident in performing but singing too.
@luvieNini
@luvieNini Год назад
No it’s because of sm
@acebase555
@acebase555 Год назад
Winter is definitely more willing to take risks, but she also doesn’t sound good when she does the higher belts. I would rather have Ning’s cautious approach that sounds better.
@danissegomez7953
@danissegomez7953 Год назад
​@@acebase555 Ning is always capable, SM is just pushing Winter when she can barely hit those notes😂
@Hang-xy6yk
@Hang-xy6yk 8 месяцев назад
Not exactly.Most of the highest notes in Aespa's discography are actually Ningning's adlib and runs in the background.Winter's highnote is actually not that high,but tends to sound higher because of her approach to the notes,which sounds satisfying when she manage to hit it,but it's not that stable in live.
@TheBlindBandit-e8v
@TheBlindBandit-e8v Год назад
In ten years time, lily and Haewon are going to be absolute vocal monsters
@ereh11
@ereh11 Год назад
They already are
@azurean7183
@azurean7183 Год назад
@@ereh11 definitely, but sopranos reach their peak in their 30s so by that time haewon and lily will be absolute beasts
@ereh11
@ereh11 Год назад
@@azurean7183 with proper training too. Unfortunately JYP isn't known for that. Hopefully, they take care of their most talented GG
@Joonpathy
@Joonpathy 11 месяцев назад
Only if JYP gives them proper vocal training which I doubt they will.
@martymarchh
@martymarchh Год назад
Now Lily A5 again in Young, Dumb, Stupid The only 4th gen that can slay this
@imfoive991
@imfoive991 Год назад
and supported 3 Eb5s in love me like this
@myouimina6385
@myouimina6385 Год назад
Yeah, and the fact that the A5 have good placement is incredible
@fqerie9376
@fqerie9376 Год назад
I love her
@hanatake2353
@hanatake2353 Год назад
And shes still vgly😭 as expected from jyp’s daughter
@preymeth
@preymeth Год назад
10:22 is one of my fav moments of haewon's vocal omg i just loooove her vibrato here so much it literally gave me chills when i first heard it😻😻😻
@yerimissemm
@yerimissemm Год назад
We all know Sieun is a flawed vocalist but I feel her vocal range in general makes her Stand out she has incredible accessibility in all of registers and surprisingly her lower register too
@izonexbae
@izonexbae Год назад
For sure, very much potential
@fangirlmode8705
@fangirlmode8705 Год назад
Yup, she just needs training.
@yerimissemm
@yerimissemm Год назад
@@fangirlmode8705 just like most of the vocalist in 4th Gen. So what is your point
@fangirlmode8705
@fangirlmode8705 Год назад
@@yerimissemm I mean, she has a potential, she just needs to have a vocal coach. There's nothing to what I said.
@yerimissemm
@yerimissemm Год назад
@@fangirlmode8705 she’s a stylistic singer who doesn’t rely on technique just like the rest of the group.
@marquersurlalune
@marquersurlalune Год назад
Sieun is a really interesting case. She has SOOOO much potential. If only she trained in a more vocal-centric company or company with history of good vocal training like SM, she's gonna be unstoppable.
@k-potato3593
@k-potato3593 Год назад
Btw sieun used to be under jyp and underwent 2yrs of training. She was part of itzy potential lineup as well.
@marquersurlalune
@marquersurlalune Год назад
@@k-potato3593 I know. I became a fan after watching her in Still 17. But she was in JYP for acting in majority so her vocals haven't really been trained there well. And you know that JYP isn't really that great with vocals esp. their half-air thingy. Only with NMIXX did they have vocalists at par with some SM vocalists (Lily, Haewon)
@Blanka767
@Blanka767 Год назад
​@@marquersurlalune Excuse me, but JYP also had Wonder girls, &15 and they have Day6. In my opinion, they are also on pair with SM vocalists (not better, but they aren't far below, you know?)
@marquersurlalune
@marquersurlalune Год назад
@@Blanka767 I'm talking about the company as a whole. You see a clear line between SM and JYP? SM have been producing average, above average, proficient, good main vocalists ever since 1st generation. Let alone their lead vocalists. BOA, TVXQ, SUJU, THE GRACE, SNSD up to present, they don't MISS AT ALL. JYP on the other hand had only a couple of main vocalists that could be at par with SM Vocalists (NMIXX, DAY6, &15, WG) and that's about it. There's a clear disparity. They are far behind. Not even close. If you still don't understand, I don't know anymore.
@itsdomd0misticn00b7
@itsdomd0misticn00b7 Год назад
​@@Blanka767 SM's lead vocalists are usually on par if not better than most of JYP's main vocalists. Meanwhile, SM's main vocalists are usually considered on a different level. (At least according vocal analysis experts) JYP has some pretty good vocalists alright, but their best one isn't even worth comparing to SM's best, because it's obvious who would win.
@moonlights14387
@moonlights14387 Год назад
NMIXX LILY ON ANOTHER LEVEL✋🏻 I saw her all performance (since 12 years old) she is incredible
@ismailhakim255
@ismailhakim255 Год назад
There’s something that i love about ningning is that it sounds easy for her, she doesn’t need to like scream or get everything force out of her chest, it sounds easy in the ears everytime
@Rhaphidophile
@Rhaphidophile Год назад
Ningning really just needs to work on exposure; SM's fault entirely. When she gets to perform live and she's in her element, she's absolutely on fire. SM forcing to lipsync their first three years was definitely a detriment. edit: It frustartes me sometimes that she often chooses to be safe than risking notes, but I guess we also can appreciate her for taking care of her voice. Anyway her headvoice is immaculate and she definitely relies on it and mixes more heady whenever she's in doubt (which ig is okay considering how piercing Winter is).
@pyaytsone9717
@pyaytsone9717 Год назад
If Lia master the foundation she can be the queen of vocal bc her tone is so beautiful and unique, that’s something you can’t train to achieve. I hope she improves in the future.
@terimasketir425
@terimasketir425 Год назад
@@uzuzlas4676 stop blaming the company look at nmixx, its simply that lia is at her limit. Its possible that this is as far as she can go.
@hanatake2353
@hanatake2353 Год назад
She cant even sing taylor swift song perfectly ijBOLLL KEEP ON DREAMING MIDZYS!
@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc
@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc Год назад
Y'all r delusional, she can improve but not be the queen of vocals
@hanatake2353
@hanatake2353 Год назад
@@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc 🎤🎤🎤🎤🎤🎤DOZEN LIA, HOW DOES IT FEEL TO BE THE MOST WEAKEST MAIN VOCALIST IN JYPEE AND KPOP INDUSTRY IN GENERAL???🎤🎤
@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc
@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc Год назад
@@hanatake2353 that's was unnecessary
@sumi3410
@sumi3410 Год назад
Finally someone else who believes HAEWON and LILY complete each other...oo i love nmixx
@danielkaggio1976
@danielkaggio1976 Год назад
When sieun hit a whistle note I was in utter shock
@dylaaaiiiiin
@dylaaaiiiiin Год назад
I'm too lazy to find it, where is it?
@Sylvaincks
@Sylvaincks Год назад
@@dylaaaiiiiin 3:33
@stevensong8618
@stevensong8618 8 месяцев назад
Lily and Haewon are the best 1,2 punch in the 4th gen and then you add Sullyoon.... it is insane. Plus every other member can support. ❤❤❤❤❤❤
@k_e_n_n
@k_e_n_n Год назад
Out of all in the list, I love Yunjin and Liz the most! They have long ways to go to perfect their skills but I know they'll get there with proper training and hardwork. I feel bad with Yunjin's recession tho. I believe she is also aware of this as she mentioned this in our of LSRFM's vlog. But I like that she keeps her songs in her comfortable range. When I listen to her songs, I feel very relaxed. As for Liz, she's got a lot of raw talent. And based on her performance in their concert, you can see that she's working hard improving her vocals. Amazing singers, I admire these two soo much!
@draken1058
@draken1058 Год назад
even though liz is low and behind now, she has such a unique vocal colour that is rich, but smooth and sweet that stands out from the rest of her group. starship needs to capitalize on that. she needs real deal training and a giant confidence boost because she has astronomical potential to rise the ranks. go liz
@s_bp2876
@s_bp2876 Год назад
I love Lia’s voice! Her emotion when she sings she makes me want to cry. She just get shy but she sounds so beautiful.
@louieya9190
@louieya9190 Год назад
Im voting jo yuri as well. She has a very rich and unique vocal color and can definitely go up there. She has been slaying since 2018
@RUKA_BABYMONST7R
@RUKA_BABYMONST7R 10 месяцев назад
YESS
@iillii1234
@iillii1234 Год назад
Lilly vocal range is actually Eb3-Bb5-Bb5 The Eb3 was in the staff's wedding "To you my light". The Bb5 (hv) was in her vlive practicing on "Ego" - Beyonce.
@Glossyxxbeeeeen
@Glossyxxbeeeeen Год назад
Can you link the Bb5 on ego? Im doing a vocal showcase
@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc
@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc Год назад
​@@Glossyxxbeeeeen she did a Bb5 of sullyoons high note in dice at Mama
@Glossyxxbeeeeen
@Glossyxxbeeeeen Год назад
@@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc i said ego not dice...
@anistardi
@anistardi Год назад
I think Lilly has best vocal technique and powerful in pop song, but i like Sulyoon's voice tone/color/timbre, it rich but soft. The best musicality is Yunjin, and I considered only Yunjin now that I can called her as true artist.
@dodorananda
@dodorananda Год назад
If youre lazy to watch the video heres the final ranking: 1 - Lily and Haewon 2 - NingNig 3 - Yunjin 4 - Liz 5 - Lia 6 - Sieun hope that helps
@udebrl
@udebrl Год назад
@_TA11 she is not, Haewon and Lily still better than her
@alexally2769
@alexally2769 Год назад
Idk much about vocal technique but I loved and kept repeating Ningning’s belt during Savage’s 1st prechorus on their 1st encore. Like yes girl! Belt that with confidence! I wish she sang more like that. I notice the fear in her eyes whenever she has to belt or even just sing live in general (which is interesting since Winter’s the opposite, girl doesn’t give af lol). I personally think her nicest moments are when she’s in a casual setting. So much potential when she gets over that hurdle.
@harveyism
@harveyism Год назад
my favorite vocalist is Yunjin. every time she sings i feel her love for music.
@gudc00ch33
@gudc00ch33 Год назад
Yunjin is a weird case, cuz she seems to be the same as her predebut stage until you get to the higher end of her mixed voice and that at least to me is where i hear the difference, but nonetheless she still is a great vocalist with loads of potential
@jihyotwice1005
@jihyotwice1005 Год назад
Hybe vocal coach is meh 😕
@frieddegg
@frieddegg Год назад
i think its also bc she stopped singing, she was going to go to university and move on from an idol life before hybe rang her. the others have been training cinsistently for years.
@fangirlmode8705
@fangirlmode8705 Год назад
She is in HYBE... that's the problem. They have the worst vocal coaches.
@izonexbae
@izonexbae Год назад
New intro, new analysis and a new start! Corrections about the vocal ranges: Lily: Eb3-Bb5-Bb5 Yunjin: F3-F#5-C6(mightve gone higher)
@yerismind
@yerismind Год назад
haewon has the best vocal tone in 4 gen argue with me
@justdb4
@justdb4 Год назад
Arguing about vocal tone is subjective and is like comparing with apples to oranges. Which doesn't make any sense. So, if people were to argue with you, it would be like arguing with a wall since we all have our subjective taste. I also like Haewon's tone too.
@yerismind
@yerismind Год назад
@@justdb4 its just a joke bro
@Glossyxxbeeeeen
@Glossyxxbeeeeen Год назад
@@yerismind bye 💀
@Ginpachirah
@Ginpachirah Год назад
Doesn't deserve even an argue💀😂
@tonitaam646
@tonitaam646 5 месяцев назад
Dependiendo el gusto de la gente, ella tiene una voz madura y sonora, pero su técnica no es la mejor de la cuarta generación. Aún así ella canta hermoso, seguro será una de las mejores en el futuro, sin embargo ser o no ser la mejor no minimiza su talento.
@asianindigs
@asianindigs Год назад
Lily has A5 note in headvoice on her cover song "All I want for Christmas" tho
@joestylechannel4939
@joestylechannel4939 Год назад
Weeekly Monday deserve to be recognized as one of the top 4th gen vocalist. Her high note in 'Solar' on Weverse 💕 even her low note from 'when we were young' by Adele cover on radio. I mean there's a lot Monday sing live on Weverse that uploaded on RU-vid. Maybe it's time to analysis Weeekly Monday vocal.
@fitryaisminuzula
@fitryaisminuzula 6 месяцев назад
The funny thing is my 4th gen fav idol is all started with letter L. Lia, Lily, Liz..gosh, I hope someday they can make a collab
@neli2136
@neli2136 Год назад
Sieun have si much potential omg :0 My favorite is Liz, I LOVE HER VOCAL TONE!!!
@Muskii_1
@Muskii_1 Год назад
Baby monster is coming guyssss haram pharita rora Chiquita already breaked recordss
@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc
@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc Год назад
It's really annoying how y'all say "Baemon is coming" whenever there's a vid Abt kpop vocalists yet their best vocalist is Mid W-A
@ericfaulk2204
@ericfaulk2204 Год назад
Lily is so far ahead of any other 4th Gen idol, she's basically on the short list for the GOAT K-pop vocalist.
@bellaluvskanao
@bellaluvskanao Год назад
The way Sullyoon could also make it on this list 😭 Nmixx fighting!
@huggingismyjob6506
@huggingismyjob6506 Год назад
I thought Lily's lows consistently were only down to A3 wow she's even better than I thought 🤩
@noriawawa9073
@noriawawa9073 Год назад
Sullyoon is also a good vocalist,visual that actially can sing live
@hilal2154
@hilal2154 Год назад
lily and haewon is good but i love ningning's vocal more, her voice is everything
@emmag.7731
@emmag.7731 Год назад
I think that Billlie has some AMAZING main vocalists. It'd be really cool to see what you thought.
@yujikari
@yujikari Год назад
Ningning's supported range: F#3 - C#5
@izonexbae
@izonexbae Год назад
I might give her F#3 but her C#’s are inconsistent for me, so I wouldn’t fully give her that
@TheReVeluvFestival
@TheReVeluvFestival Год назад
F#3 - C5
@ayline5412
@ayline5412 Год назад
Liz voice is so beatiful
@natnut2008
@natnut2008 Год назад
I find Weeekly's Monday very impressive.
@TolemeHernandez
@TolemeHernandez Год назад
Nmixx is everything
@shraddhapatel3142
@shraddhapatel3142 Год назад
Honourable mention to one of the best vocalist in 4th gen , the one and only, Monday from Weeekly💝
@anisaafsar4528
@anisaafsar4528 Год назад
The thing is although I love nmixx vocal ability and I like Haewons and sullyoons voices I can't stand Lily's voice sometimes. In highlight medley she sounds nice but sometimes in actually Nmixx songs I feel like her voice doesn't suit Idk why. With NingNing I actually like her voice because I think it's really sweet but yes NingNing just needs more confidence
@martacastillo6272
@martacastillo6272 Год назад
Yup we all have vocal tone preferences
@imfoive991
@imfoive991 Год назад
lily's voice is rlly good
@GabrielAlves-ig6wh
@GabrielAlves-ig6wh Год назад
Voices like lilly are rare in the kpop industry, so it's expected some won't resonate with it for a while
@anisaafsar4528
@anisaafsar4528 Год назад
​@@GabrielAlves-ig6whidk her voice reminds me of winters as well but again I actually like winters voice on aespa songs idk why
@edu.8552
@edu.8552 Год назад
it would be nice an agility ranking. I feel like, in k-pop, riffs and runs are overlooked, but I'm a sucker for agilty, one of the reasons I love SulHaeLy so much.
@fangirlmode8705
@fangirlmode8705 Год назад
I am a sucker for vocalists like D.O because his runs are great. Baek Yerin too.
@slaypa
@slaypa Год назад
liz has much pontential to make her mix balanced
@witchywatcher
@witchywatcher Год назад
i like yunjin and lily, i think they r great they have a powerful voice and that is so charming and so interested
@아빠
@아빠 9 месяцев назад
I think LILY's supported range is G#3~Eb5~G5
@youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062
@youtubeisntallowingmetocom9062 7 месяцев назад
Late but I seriously hope Lia gets the right sources for vocal training after Itzy disbands, she has so much potential, but her biggest issue is her confidence and her mixed, her A4 sounds effortless at times and she can even sing Bb4 back then, she needs to be taught how to belt properly
@maelt4347
@maelt4347 Год назад
If Sieun had sm vocal trainers she would be unstoppable
@HanQ28
@HanQ28 Год назад
I swear Ningning always looks/sounds like she will be sent straight back to China by SM if she makes just one mistake on stage. She has so much fear in her big eyes😂
@sowhat1674
@sowhat1674 Год назад
It's because people are always racist towards her just because she is Chinese.
@jihyotwice1005
@jihyotwice1005 Год назад
How can someone be talented..haewon is literally top tier vocalist while being most skilled dancer in idol dance. Not even yg or sm can have idol like her . LMAO
@harry3297
@harry3297 Год назад
Luna from f(x)
@beyonceschild
@beyonceschild Год назад
Luna, Taemin, Seohyun, Xiah Junsu..
@rubyjaneluvbot
@rubyjaneluvbot Год назад
LMAOO ever heard of luna from f(x)?? taemin from shinee?? seulgi from red velvet?? ( yes my girl seulgi can eat half of the 4th gen mains up. also around your fav jihyo vocally )
@giabaomaidang242
@giabaomaidang242 Год назад
girl have u heard of Luna :))
@shujinko2944
@shujinko2944 Год назад
@@rubyjaneluvbot Haewon easily outsings Seulgi tho.
@altanhaddad6943
@altanhaddad6943 Год назад
Bro the rapper line in NMIXX they can sing very well too. like dude they're rapper with almost swag voice but they can SLAY when they sing💅🏻🥵i can agree that NMIXX be one of the best 4th gen pure talented group
@sumi3410
@sumi3410 Год назад
I have a suggestion next time u can make the relaxed vocals in green, and the strained ones in red!
@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc
@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc Год назад
I think green is for supported notes, yellow is for relaxed notes, and red is for strained notes
@rodrigochumpitazi2762
@rodrigochumpitazi2762 8 месяцев назад
For me it's Lily by far. She's "the different". Best vocalist, not only capable of reach high notes, but with an amazing and unique timber, texture, style.
@jrkln27
@jrkln27 Год назад
14:12 😱😱 I saw Lia as not so good, but wow, she made me eat my words
@izonexbae
@izonexbae Год назад
One of my favorite moments of her
@kanzrifrosie
@kanzrifrosie Год назад
Lia Vocal tone so unique & beautiful ❤️
@shulilin2450
@shulilin2450 Год назад
I hope to see Monday of Weeekly in your next 4th Generation Vocal Analysys, pls. I know Weeekly are quite underrated, but I think Monday is quite good to be analyzed in your channel.
@izonexbae
@izonexbae Год назад
Yeah i know Monday and love weeekly, will be featured very soon
@SlayerJoe
@SlayerJoe Год назад
I think Lia has the potential to be a powerhouse vocalist the problem is that, In true JYP fashion, she’s forced to sing with an unnatural tone. I think they wanted her to be the next Nayeon and make Yeji the next Jihyo but Lia, as you said, does better in a lower register. JYP has all these talented women in his company but if you’re not in Twice you’re given scraps. He has Twice until 2029 now so hopefully he’ll stop trying to recreate their magic and let Itzy and NMIXX create their own magic. Anyways, I’m not gonna sit here and rank talented women like they’re objects created solely for our entertainment during women’s history month or ever, so I put all of them at number one because they all have strengths and weaknesses and that’s just called being human and the real talent is putting yourself out into the public eye and taking criticism like water off a ducks back. All these Queens are amazing and deserve the world. Werk ladies!!
@saltyx4136
@saltyx4136 Год назад
The problem is she doesnt have the same level of technique. I like ITZY btw.
@SlayerJoe
@SlayerJoe Год назад
@@saltyx4136 yeah I don’t understand why the company would train her vocal in an unnatural way like it’s obvious from debut. Dalla Dalla wasn’t within her comfort range so she wasn’t able to truly show off her vocals. I just hope that she doesn’t ruin her voice trying to fit the mold JYPE is putting her in.
@oohmyjooy
@oohmyjooy Год назад
It's JYPE* not JYP. The guy is not CEO.
@SlayerJoe
@SlayerJoe Год назад
@@oohmyjooy he created the company
@oohmyjooy
@oohmyjooy Год назад
@@SlayerJoe And he's not the one making the decisions anymore. He's not the one that "has twice till 2029" JYPE does. And it's about time kpop stans understand the difference.
@asdrubalalejandrosolorzano1847
Okey but the intro tho>>>>>
@izonexbae
@izonexbae Год назад
hihi update😄
@heyobr0
@heyobr0 Год назад
Great video, i know it's just the most popular ones but maybe it will be more interesting if you want to make the most underrated ones like weeekly monday, purple kiss swan, cherry bullet bora etc and rank them too and compare the most popular and underrated so that will be awsome but i just tell anyway
@izonexbae
@izonexbae Год назад
Great idea, would make a very long video tho
@ceci7488
@ceci7488 Год назад
I would give NingNing C#5 cus she consistent with her C#5 in the Hyper Line Concert
@izonexbae
@izonexbae Год назад
I’m not sure about that concert since not everything was live. But she has some C#’s she just doesn’t have them the same way Haewon has them consistently. It’s mostly phrasing
@moonlights14387
@moonlights14387 Год назад
​@@izonexbae yeah idols used prerecord vocals
@Cupidador
@Cupidador Год назад
i'm suprised to not see goeun and swan of purple kiss on here or haram of billie
@preymeth
@preymeth Год назад
i have a question about haewon, u mentioned that she's very close to achieving resonance, can u show me which moment where she almost did that? thanks in advance^^
@izonexbae
@izonexbae Год назад
10:17, 10:35, 10:51
@preymeth
@preymeth Год назад
@@izonexbae thankyouu!!
@paullee4882
@paullee4882 2 месяца назад
So underrated is sullyoon, winter, swan, and isa. 4th gen I so talented.
@kledi3817
@kledi3817 Год назад
i wouldn’t give G3 to Lily. she has very few good G3s. she’s rather only consistent with G#3 / A3. if you gave G3 to Lily you should also give it to Haewon cuz even Haewon has more G3s than Lily. i agree with pretty much everything else you said, i feel like a big problem for haewon is her nasality tho, especially when she doesn’t necessarily belt big long sustained notes. her placement is usually good for those like that sustained C5 you showed but a lot of the times she opts for this very nasal unpleasant sound which i wish she would fix SO SO BAD
@zhejiwooinkwangya
@zhejiwooinkwangya Год назад
Hm I rarely hear Haewon go down to G3 all too much. Even then, her and Lily lows aren't too far apart. I don't hear Haewon utilizing her stronger chest voice in her lows much.
@izonexbae
@izonexbae Год назад
Yeah. It’s a weird habit she has
@liftedb9591
@liftedb9591 Год назад
i mean G#3/A3 is kinda a stretch already czz she is usually muffled and quiet below A3/Bb3
@imfoive991
@imfoive991 Год назад
@@liftedb9591 nah now she should be given G#3/A3
@davidmoreira1310
@davidmoreira1310 Месяц назад
El rango belt de Lily mas alto que su head voice?😮 Actualmente, ya llega a un C6, aunque es en estudio😊
@ayline5412
@ayline5412 Год назад
Sieun is awesome.
@izonexbae
@izonexbae Год назад
She’s very pretty
@ChrisBrengel
@ChrisBrengel Год назад
It is not just how high the note is, but how precisely on tune it is. All other things being equal, whoever has the most power wins. Some girls have just devastatingly beautiful voices-- that counts for a lot for me. IMHO, in order: Precisely on tune, range, power, the beauty of voice.
@eddyjacx5622
@eddyjacx5622 Год назад
Lily doesn't have G3s, she sometimes gets too light even on A3s. She's also quite consistent with Eb5s, I don't see why she wouldn't get D5/Eb5.
@tty5317
@tty5317 Год назад
I agree
@이런-아
@이런-아 Год назад
Her bb4's and bb5's are shouty
@imfoive991
@imfoive991 Год назад
@@이런-아 Bb4 no but Bb5 is a really high note obviously its "Shouty"
@이런-아
@이런-아 Год назад
@@imfoive991 they're shouty she needs to work on them
@imfoive991
@imfoive991 Год назад
@@이런-아 Bb4 isnt
@foreverinsfired
@foreverinsfired Год назад
would you consider doing this for lead vocals as well?
@Rexille_Creative
@Rexille_Creative Год назад
Sorry if my english not fluent but i think for lead vocalist is winter or sullyoon maybe (in number 1) (imo)
@izonexbae
@izonexbae Год назад
Yeah but not too soon since this video took a lot of work
@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc
@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc Год назад
​@@Rexille_Creative winter
@uc6758
@uc6758 Год назад
​@@Rexille_Creative def winter. Sulyoon still has some work to achieve winter's level. But she would be on top too.
@zizzy8168
@zizzy8168 Год назад
Lily and Haewon remind me of Solar and Whee In ❤️
@firstgirl1016
@firstgirl1016 Год назад
i know you write a note on the first screen, but i guess you better add a note on the title that this is the rank among only popular group of 4th gen; cause i expect more of 4th gen gg main vocalists would get mentioned cause if we talk more about 4th gen in general (that not only the popular one) it contain many great main vocalists tho
@izonexbae
@izonexbae Год назад
There are definitely a few decent ones but i’d personally say great would be an overstatement
@izonexbae
@izonexbae Год назад
But i’ll make it more clear next time
@firstgirl1016
@firstgirl1016 Год назад
@@izonexbae I get it. Okayy thank you ✨
@Joonpathy
@Joonpathy 11 месяцев назад
Nmixx is the best 4th gen girl group vocally. I sometimes even forget that they are from JYP.
@arthurmrl
@arthurmrl Год назад
some very generous choices for nmixx members and some omissions or extreme pickiness for Ningning as usual lmao
@normangayden
@normangayden Год назад
fr
@vivantae
@vivantae 2 месяца назад
my ranking : 1. Haewon ( i love her voice, her texture is everything. she is abs a vocal monster) 2. Lily ( obv amazing no doubt, i just personally prefer haewon's vocal tone over hers) 3. Ningning ( i mean,, she could easily be a vocal monster with a little improvement and much confidence, MY FAV FAV VOCAL TONE BTW) 4. Liz ( i need starship to give her a solo album asap, she'll EAT IT UP LIKE DAMN, i think she lacks in lower register but overall, she's so talented, again one of my fav) 5. Yunjin ( she can improve, her voice tends to strain a lot, and i believe her falsettos and head voice is more developed than chest voice. overall, beautiful tone) 6. Sieun ( she's endearing to listen to. her voice fits different genres easily) 7. Lia ( she can def improve a lot. huge potential i see in her. she's better than a lot of vocalist but i had to put her last in this particular list. her voice tends to strain, but her bright tone is really good)
@maunglukakku3197
@maunglukakku3197 Год назад
Love your VDO. Very Informative. It must take you a lot of work. I truly appreciate !!!. Please keep up the good work, i followed you.
@izonexbae
@izonexbae Год назад
Thanks❤️
@everythingsfinett3903
@everythingsfinett3903 4 месяца назад
This didn’t age well.
@MatthewCollada
@MatthewCollada Год назад
The gripe I have with this is it only shows the note being used but it doesn't show how well the note is executed. There were a lot of shouted, unsupported and shaky notes when Lia sang live. Plus there are so many examples where heavy autotune is evident.
@k-fashion465
@k-fashion465 Год назад
Heyy. What do you think of BABYMONSTER’s vocal line ?
@justdb4
@justdb4 Год назад
1. Their predebut stuff is not enough material to put them in ranking 2. We need more material from them, and we need to see how they would do when they debut because things can change from now until they debut. 3. We need to be patient. We'll get more stuff don't worry.
@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc
@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc Год назад
3 of them r estimated to be Low W-A while one is estimated to be Mid W-A and one high weak. The other two is underdeveloped
@taeslilclown9801
@taeslilclown9801 Год назад
just realized how much Haewon sounds like Hani in her mid range
@pinkblooded9243
@pinkblooded9243 Год назад
Let me say this I think this video is a bit biased with the commentary. First it's lets stablished that Haewon, Ningning, and lilly will definitely occupy the top 3. Ok why I say it's a little biased? If you read her analysis there are a lot of flawss for ningning, when infact she's almost perfect as a singer. Among all of this girl she has the widest range while lily has the highest. Her transition from tones are actually really smooth as well, the only problem is the lack of sources of performances for ningning showcasing her vocal. She also mentioned that ningning has lack of confidence while performing, and I totally agree but it's important to understand that being stable while performing is not equal to a better technique the best example is ningning and winter. Lets do side by side comparison. Overall Range: 1.ningning 2.lily 3. Haewon Highest range: 1. Lily 2. Haewon( because her highnotes are more powerful. 3. Ningning Lower range: 1.ningning 2. Haewon 3.lily Resonance Haewon Lily & ningning. Vocal gymnastics: Ningning/lily Haewon. Tone: (can be based on personal taste) Ninning Haewon lily Story telling ( if you ask vocal coaches they will all agree that inorder to be a good vocalist you should know how to convey the meaning of the song and not just spitting notes). Ningning Hawon and lily. Averall skills Ningning/lily Haewon Now to the ranking I agree with other ranks but I'll definitely replaced haewon with ningning. And if I'm to put winter she will be on the fourth just behind a little bit of haewon. Karina and sulyeon will also fit on the rank 5&6 they almost have the same level of skills.
@jihyotwice1005
@jihyotwice1005 Год назад
liz reminded me of soyeon of t-ara.
@TheRobloxianTacoLord
@TheRobloxianTacoLord Год назад
Monday from Weeekly wipes them all
@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc
@KoALa_tOo_BAsIc Год назад
Not Haely
@bunnychae3887
@bunnychae3887 Год назад
I don't know if you plan to make another video like this in the future but I would like to know your opinion/vocal analysis about kep1er's chaehyun
@Fred-bc9ts
@Fred-bc9ts Год назад
I haven`t really noticed yujin vocal change, but know that you mentioned I can clearly tell that she doesn`t project into her mask more and the sound produced is indeed coming more from the throat
@aniarahaman4941
@aniarahaman4941 Год назад
sullyoon could make it too, nmixx vocal line is the best. period
@thebugacademy
@thebugacademy Год назад
i guess it's just age that is holding these girls back, they are just starting really and with age comes very suttle changes in the larynx altering the dynamics of ones vocals, and that also depends on how they protect or not their voice, and then their is the constant demands made on them to use lipsyncs and other voice aids for a perfect sound, and lets be honest many do, newjeans hanni is one of the few that refuses point blank to use any aids at all,
@ernestonunez2400
@ernestonunez2400 Год назад
I am 100% agree with your ranking
@darthestaaar
@darthestaaar Год назад
i think weeekly monday would be near yunjins spot, even if she regressed
@julusmalcolm
@julusmalcolm Год назад
She is actually better than yunjin she and ningning are on the same level
@darthestaaar
@darthestaaar Год назад
@@julusmalcolm that’s what i figured yeah, like above her type of near
@izonexbae
@izonexbae Год назад
Yeah most likely, i’d say maybe a bit above Ningning but that’s debatable
@darthestaaar
@darthestaaar Год назад
@@izonexbae i agree
@vielleto
@vielleto Год назад
All of the NMIXX members have vocal support, so they are JYP's adopted group from SM
@laburi999
@laburi999 Год назад
???
@vielleto
@vielleto Год назад
@@laburi999 since they're vocals are mostly stable, they are mostly qualified at SM entertainment
@sawadeekrunch9436
@sawadeekrunch9436 Год назад
Raini Rodriguez
@louisemccallum2345
@louisemccallum2345 Год назад
Would you consider doing the same video but for Nugu groups? Cherry Bullets Bora + Haeyoon, Weeekly’s Monday, Purple Kiss’s Swan, etc?
@EpicThe112
@EpicThe112 Год назад
Me SM Entertainment Ningning because she can cover other vocalists from SM Entertainment. Can you try making this for the 1997 to December 31 2006 first gen girl group
@sweetlikesorn
@sweetlikesorn Год назад
Haewon and lily>>>
@izonexbae
@izonexbae Год назад
Mama is back
@sweetlikesorn
@sweetlikesorn Год назад
@@izonexbae exactly
@indigo_neo
@indigo_neo Год назад
6:48 *Eb5 great video!
@izonexbae
@izonexbae Год назад
Thanks for the correction haha, small slip up
@Lafilledlapluie
@Lafilledlapluie Год назад
Yunjin, Liz and Lily have my favorite tone.
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